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Posted by BroadwayLion on Thursday, July 21, 2016 7:04 PM

howmus
Lion, don't see no feline in the photo.... Guess him got electrocuted a mile or so back..... Whistling

 

LION is up in tree. Nice and safe.

 

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Posted by howmus on Thursday, July 21, 2016 9:18 PM

Evenin' folks!

Got home from the Museum about as half hour ago.  Very short meeting and a long train ride.....  My kind of meeting.  One of the trustees called the meeting to order, I raised my hand, got the nod and said, I move we adjorn the meeting!  Got a few laughs but I was ruled out of order.  Five minutes later a couple items had been discussed/presented and we boarded the train for a ride.  We stopped for a toiur of the restoration building.  I took a look inside an old wooden caboose being completely rebuilt.  (That one may be my new home when the Erie gets taken off line to have some needed work done later.)  On the way out coming down the steps I scraped my already bruised right arm on a sharp edge of some new wood....  Had to get out the first aid box and tape a large bandage over it and apply pressure to stop the bleeding.  My Dermatologist says that is just me reaching Middle Age......  I now have bruises all over my arms!

"Weather forecast for tonight: Dark. Continued dark overnight, with widely scattered light by morning." - (George Carlin)

 YGW, last I heard it has been decided to do the same first post to start the diner each month, followed by the RIP Listing in the very next post below it.

Time to close up shop for the night...  Have a great and safe one!  Prayers for all in need.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 21, 2016 11:12 PM

Good Morning!

I got 8 hours of sleep, without an interruption I can´t remember when that happened last time! I should feel refreshed, but I don´t - it was just too warm in the bedroom.

Dave - think of the poor engine driver and the people who have to clean up the mess afterwards!

LION - come on, you´re pulling my leg! There is no LION hiding up in any of the trees. Don´t forget, we are of the generation "bifocals" in this diner!

I was kind of expecting my Internet connection to be down this morning - well, it wasn´t, it´still up and running, so I must have done things right in setting it up!

Flo, coffee in an IV bag, please and is that apple strudel I am detecting on the counter?

TTFN - will drop by again later!

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Posted by FRRYKid on Friday, July 22, 2016 12:12 AM

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FRRYKid - Did you say surprise package ? Those are always good !

And I managed to get the quick little project done this morning as well. (As I had hoped.)

On another front: I got the GP30 this (Wednesday) morning and managed to get the rear window glass out to replace the damaged one in the shell and all but one of the handrails. Unfortunately, in the process of removing the handrails, I broke one of the endrails and send it flying to locations unknown. Now I'm left to scrounge to find a replacement.

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Posted by FRRYKid on Friday, July 22, 2016 12:59 AM

Update: My scrounging was successful. I found the original package that the shell came in that I had thrown the damaged handrails in. (I thought that I had thrown them in the garbage when I decided to order the metal kit.) The endrails were still intact and useable. The other endrail ended up with a damaged end that I could have covered with the plow, but with both endrails intact I will end up using them.

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Posted by richhotrain on Friday, July 22, 2016 5:43 AM

Sir Madog

Good Morning!

I got 8 hours of sleep, without an interruption I can´t remember when that happened last time! 

 

Wow. 8 hours of sleep. And uninterrupted. LOL  My sleep is never uninterrupted and 6 hours of sleep is the best that I can do. I envy you, Ulrich.

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Posted by "JaBear" on Friday, July 22, 2016 6:09 AM

Gidday Chloe, a Barry sized mug of green tea and if some of that apple strudel is left, a small slice would be much appreciated please.
 
I’m afraid, Ulrich, that I had to Google German apples and was surprised to see that currently the most commonly grown apples in Germany are foreign cultivars including my favourite apple, the NZ Braeburn. The Braeburn is both sweet and tart, but I note that the newer NZ apples seem to be bred for more sweetness. Thank goodness we still have the Granny Smith, a nice tart Australian apple predominately used for cooking but nice, sliced with a hunk of sharp cheese. There was a recent TV programme on a NZ couple who were looking for and saving the old breeds of apples.
 
It’s a sad state of affairs but talking to a couple of New Zealand Rail Engine Drivers not that long ago, they said, in a matter of fact manner, that it was a given that they would take out at least one crossing jumper in their career. Sigh
 
On a lighter note as both The Moody Blues and Led Zeppelin have been mentioned, if I was only allowed one album by each, I’d have In Search of the Lost Chord and Led Zeppelin IV.
 
Thoughts and Best wishes to All that need them.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 22, 2016 6:52 AM

richhotrain
I envy you, Ulrich.

Well, I haven´t had that much sleep in one go for over 10 years, so it´s something remarkable for me!

JaBear - yes, Braeburn seems to be the leading kind of apple here, replacing Granny Smith and Cox Orange. The best for apple strudel, however, is that age old Boskopp, which is long gone. It was the best for pies and strudels, but is not allowed to be marketed any longer. What a nonsense - but it´s a licensing issue. I just am grateful we don´t have to pay a license fee to Him for using Mother Earth as our habitat, or for the air that we breath. We have to pay for the water, though, and I am sure more will follow. I sure can follow what the Natives Americans said about the White Man´s greed...

End of mini rant!

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Friday, July 22, 2016 9:12 AM

Good morning ..

Coffee and a pecan roll please. 

I'm working on some scenery where details are not critical. This part of the layour will not be easy to see from the aisle....... So this time I'm using a quick and easy method for rock strata out of blue foam insulation. After stacking foam pices with construction adhesive, I fill gaps with drywall mud. When mud is dry I cut horzontal grooves and break away small chunks. Next, I paint it white with ordinary household latex paint. Then I apply washes of various colors of acrylic paint waiting between each coat for it to dry. Then I add scenery products. The section on the right already has grass added, and I will be adding trees, etc. 

 

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Posted by angelob6660 on Friday, July 22, 2016 12:49 PM

Afternoon Diners,

yougottawanta

Angel - Where did you get SBSO from ? I like it by the way

Thanks for the nice comment YGW. 

The SBSO name came about renaming the company into a new era. Originally it named the Sienna Transportation Lines to Black Star than keeping the town name of Sienna. I added it to the organization and and town name to a new reporting mark as Sienna Black Star Organization.

Nothing to difficult, I had to make sure a real railroad didn't have the same reporting marks. Another one was BSOR, but it was taken.

 

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Posted by FRRYKid on Friday, July 22, 2016 12:53 PM

Nice job with the scenery. (Unfortunately, scenery is one of my weak points. That's why my hills are either the white of the sculptamold or the raw foam. I do have a bunch of retaining walls and tunnel portals up but that is it.)

Other hobby notes: I've got the handrails for the 30 painted in the BN Green with the white ends. Hopefully, I can get the handrails attached and the ACI labels decals tonight or tomorrow. And, yes, I will put pictures up when it is done.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 22, 2016 1:21 PM

Following the massacre on a regional train near Würzburg on Tuesday, in which a young refugee from Afghanistan attacked commuters with a large knife and an axe, leaving three people dead and 5 severely injured, there has been a shooting in a shopping mall in Munich, taking supposedly 10 lives and injuring many more. The attackers are at large and all life has come to a grinding halt in Munich on this beautiful summer evening. All public transport has been stopped and people are asked to stay within their homes, as further attacks are expected to happen. I am not allowed to state the origin of these attacks in here.

My prayers go out to those killed in these incidents, to those injured and maimed and to their loved ones.

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Friday, July 22, 2016 2:19 PM

Ulrich .... The attack has been in the news all afternoon here. Sad. 

FRRYKid .... Actaully, scenery is not very hard to do, and I encourage you to try doing more. 

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Posted by cudaken on Friday, July 22, 2016 10:12 PM

 Evening Dinners

 Flo, Beer please.

 Been a stressfull day some of it is in my mind and some by stupid companys. My wife heath care insurances caused some of the stress. Called her at home (she would not pick up the phone) and the message they left said they where dropping her coverage because of none payment. She flipped out and called me at work. While I was late making the payment it was made, but the records where at the house! Whistling When I got home, the next payment is not due to 7-31-16. Wife does not belevie me or the statment I showed her. Bang Head

 Charter Srewed Up. Long story made short, went to pay my bill and a promo did not take. They fixed that and instead of paying $189.00 I paid $155.00. I called home a couple of times today and phone was fine. About 7:00 PM my daughter called and said my line line was no longer in services? Bang Head Got home and I had a dial tone? Sue could make out going calls but got no incoming calls. Now that is fixed.

 Train Front.

 1 Don't look at prices more that what you are buying! I picked the cheapest wheel sets that K-10 Model Trains had. They where 36" wheels, not the needed 33" wheels. Getting Old Sucks.

 Later, Ken

 

 

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Posted by FRRYKid on Saturday, July 23, 2016 12:56 AM

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FRRYKid .... Actaully, scenery is not very hard to do, and I encourage you to try doing more.

The main idea for my layout (at least the area that needs most of the scenery) is lumber. That means I need lots of trees. The problem is I have found that I don't have the patience to build the massive quantity of trees that I need. To try to buy the amount of trees would be out of my budget range.

I am good at rough scenery. It's just the finish scenery that I seem to have the issue with. (I do have a Kalmbach scenery book that I need to read a little closer.)

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Saturday, July 23, 2016 8:10 AM

FRRYKid .... There are techniques for making large numbers of trees without spending lots of money. The guy who is good at it is Terry in Wisconsin, but he does not post here often. I'm sure he will gladly show his way of doing it if he stops in here at the Diner.... Meanwhile, I suggest you search You Tube to see if any model railroaders show how they make trees. 

Ken .... Sounds like one of those bad days. .... Here was a bad day on the Union Pacific

 

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Posted by inch53 on Saturday, July 23, 2016 9:38 AM
Morning,,, an irish coffee please Janie… Still under a heat warning through tomorrow, when a cold front movies through, highs next week in the mid to upper 80’s.
 
YGW,,,, it was a joke son a joke [fog horn leg horn from loony toons].
Today’s Mothers turns 60, as she puts it 39.95, plus shipping n handling. Not doing anything special other than taking burthen day cake over to Effingham for the 2 great granddaughters, both born this month.

 Best get on ta chores; need to spread some flea killer outside, got’em in the yard bad. Hopefully this new stuff works better than the last. Thoughts n prayers for all in need n hope ya’ll  has a gooden

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Posted by BigDaddy on Saturday, July 23, 2016 9:47 AM

Good morning folks, a glass of ice tea.  It is hot already 90 or 32 for Ulrich and it's not yet 11 am.  Temps are supposed to "feel like" the low 100's for the next few days. 

About 100 miles west they grow a lot of apples.  Varieties at road side stands you never see in the supermarket.  Gala is my favorite eating apple.  I looked up heirloom apples and you can buy Ulrich's German apple.  I used to have fruit trees.  I did not use spray and did not get fruit that survived to be edible, except cherries and the bird ate those 2 days before they were pickable.

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Posted by ricktrains4824 on Saturday, July 23, 2016 9:51 AM

Good morning all.

Chloe, just a large lemonade please. Thanks.

Garry - Talk about a new intermodal load! On the bright side, they pre-loaded the wrecked loco onto a railcar, so they could just tie it down to haul it away! Laugh

YGW - Yes, scammers try to get pre-paid gift card account numbers from store employees over the phone, then they can just monitor them and capture the balance when they are sold, making for some unhappy customers, or, for the less patient ones, they try to get you to "test ring" through the register, and you are out the money from the sale, and the cards themselves. He just (unfortunately for him, fortunately for me and my store Wink) chose someone who was smarter than he is to try to fool. I knew it was funny right away, just because he had to ask if we sold them, but he "works for the company that supplies them"..... Yep. He works for them alright, and he will also be willing to sell me the Golden Gate Bridge, for the right price. Wink

Weather - Humid, hot, and hot and humid. And, before I forget to mention the heat and humidity, it is hot and humid out! 88F with a 93% Humidity level! Forecast high is 93, with heat index of over 100, approaching 110 mid afternoon... See below for fun part of that...

W**k - Big sale this weekend, started terribly slow yesterday, with just $850 by 1pm, but went crazy after that. The store I work at, is store number 5235, and, by close last night, we did $5,235.48 in sales... Yep, I think that works! Bow I ended the day at $4300 of it myself, but zero's across the board for any numbers for bonus money.... Super Angry

Well, I have to run, have a wedding to go too, and I am one of two photographers.... Photo shoot is outside, for almost 3 hours, as is the short wedding ceremony, and the colors the bride chose? Black, white, and teal... This should get real interesting! (I can already see someone, other than the groom, passing out today.....) 

All have a good day!

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Posted by FRRYKid on Saturday, July 23, 2016 11:00 AM

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FRRYKid .... There are techniques for making large numbers of trees without spending lots of money. The guy who is good at it is Terry in Wisconsin, but he does not post here often. I'm sure he will gladly show his way of doing it if he stops in here at the Diner.... Meanwhile, I suggest you search You Tube to see if any model railroaders show how they make trees. 

Part of it as well goes back to the fact that some of the methods for making trees just don't look realistic to me. (Especially the scratch pad and toothpick method.) I had gotten supplies to make them from furnance filters, but I haven't gotten the hand of that either.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 23, 2016 12:43 PM

Good Evening!

The people here in Germany are still shocked by yesterdays shooting. Officials hastily denied that it was a terrorist act, but whatever it is called, and whatever made the gunman do it, it took 10 lives, most of them children below the age of 17.

It hasn´t yet cooled off, so I was pretty lazy until thew late afternoon, when I decided to get my mind off the sad incidident. I started working on my Swiss layout again, which is far from being complete. With nothing better to do I got started on the right tunnel portal, which had so far been only a plywood contraption painted black.

After a couple of hours of scribing lines into it and giving it a coat of "stone grey" paint, it now looks like this:

Now I have to wait until the paint has dried before I can continue applying different shades of grey and white using the dry brushing technique.

It´s not perfect, but it does its job!

 

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Saturday, July 23, 2016 3:29 PM

FRRYKid

 

 
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FRRYKid .... There are techniques for making large numbers of trees without spending lots of money. The guy who is good at it is Terry in Wisconsin, but he does not post here often. I'm sure he will gladly show his way of doing it if he stops in here at the Diner.... Meanwhile, I suggest you search You Tube to see if any model railroaders show how they make trees. 

 

 

Part of it as well goes back to the fact that some of the methods for making trees just don't look realistic to me. (Especially the scratch pad and toothpick method.) I had gotten supplies to make them from furnance filters, but I haven't gotten the hand of that either.

 

 

FRRYKid.  I recall Terry used goldenrod plants to make trees but could be wrong. No furnace filters were used. Results were very realistic. 

Ulrich.  Regardless of what our "leaders" call it,  evil is evil, and mass murder is mass murder.  Americans are deeply saddened by the tragic news from Munich. Prayers for Germany . 

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Posted by saronaterry on Saturday, July 23, 2016 5:55 PM

Thanks, Garry. That is very nice of you to say!

FRRYKid: I do use goldenrod, picked in the fall when it goes to seed and gets all fluffy. Trim to a tree-like shape and spray the trunk a brown color. I used to then spray the tops green and immediately dump mixed green ground foam on the still wet paint, but I found that the foam would become unstuck after a few years. Now I spray them with the cheapest hairspray I can find( aquanet) and dump on the foam. This method seems to work better.

Sorry for the crappy photo. I am in the same boat as you, modeling NW Wisconsin I need ,literally, thousands of trees.

Ones on the right are goldenrod.  On the left are furnace filter pines.

 

I did a how-to thread a few years back titled fast, cheap and easy trees. Or something like that!

There's probably 100-150 trees in this pic.It's about 10' long here:

Hope that helps.

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Posted by cudaken on Saturday, July 23, 2016 8:56 PM

 Evening Dinners

 Flo, Beer please.

 I should be in a Sigh mood but I am not. Work was peacfull and I did not sale a darn thing. Few folks I had just could not understand why a $200.00 futon and mattress felt like a $200.00 futon and mattress. Huh? Yep, your collage student will do great after sleeping on that thing! 

 Reason I am in a good mood?

 Train Front! Felt like working on trains when I got home tonight. Blew off my normal home book keeping duty's. My Atlas B&O GP 38 and PK 2000 B&O GP 30 needed some oil. Next I reporgramed a second PK 2 B&O G 30 to run with the first 2 engines I listed. Then I got another Round House B&O coal car on the rails. 8 out of 10 making the rounds so far.

 Gary Yep that was a bad day for UP. Is that a GE AC 4000? (Never Mind, just took a second look) I had 2 of them in UP Colors by Blue Line. Talk about a POS engine! One caught on fire and sold it and the other one on E-Bay for parts. Only engine I have owed that where bigger POS where Athearn Big Boys! First time they where out. One could only pull 20 cars?

 Later, Ken

 My Trees using Super Trees.

 

 

 

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Posted by howmus on Saturday, July 23, 2016 8:57 PM

Evenin' Folks!

Janie, I could sure use a tall glass of lemonade tonight!

Had a great day out at the Finger Lakes Live Steamers today.  It was the combined picnic of the Central New York Division and the Lakeshores Division (mine) of the NMRA.  Had a couple rides on the trains out there and talked to many folks I haven't seen in a couple years.

I no sooner got there when I was "allowed" to help a friend set out a string of cars in sideings around the trackage....  If I was more "comfortably" retired I might just became a member out there.  They have done a lot of work over the last couple years , new buildings and expanding their track.

Quote for the day:

"A man that carries a cat by the tail learns sometyhing he can learn in no other way." - Mark Twain

Catch you all tomorrow.... 

73

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Posted by angelob6660 on Saturday, July 23, 2016 8:57 PM

Evening Diners,

Ulrich- I the like the tunnel portal.

It been a boring Saturday today, so my mind was spinning around. Since I didn't have a layout, I thought I could make a diorama instead. I remembered that Woodland Scenics makes the diorama A scene kits plastic trays.

The closest store who sells it is Michaels, and right next door is a Home Depot where I can purchase some foam. Flip the tray around and stack the foam inside. I might do that next week, but I got to remember to take track with me if it's going to work out.

 

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Posted by cowman on Saturday, July 23, 2016 9:24 PM

FRRYKid,

I don't stop here often, but happened to tonight and saw you were looking to cover a large area with trees.

In my notebook where I keep some "where to find" stuff, I find a note that in GMR '98, pg 75, there is some information on using polyester batting to cover a large area with trees.  I don't have it immediately available, but if I remember correctly it was in a sidebar.

Hope this is something useful for you.

Good luck,

Richard

  

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Posted by JAMES MOON on Saturday, July 23, 2016 10:05 PM

Diners, greetings from the great north.  We have been here a week now.  The  new dog, Adele has settled in well and seems to enjoy walking along the edge of the lake.  One of the primary reasons we have been making the journey every summer is to escape summer heat.  Today it was 72 F here and should cool down to low 60s tonight.  Don't need air conditioning this far north.

Internet service in this remote location leaves a lot to be desired.  It is difficult streaming any video.  I was hoping to be able to watch Train TV but the internet service  makes it excrutiating to try to watch anything.  Reminds me of internet service about twenty years ago.

Sympathy for the people in Munich touched by violence.  No one should have to live in constant fear.

Stay cool.

Jim

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Posted by FRRYKid on Sunday, July 24, 2016 12:25 AM

cowman

FRRYKid,

I don't stop here often, but happened to tonight and saw you were looking to cover a large area with trees.

In my notebook where I keep some "where to find" stuff, I find a note that in GMR '98, pg 75, there is some information on using polyester batting to cover a large area with trees.  I don't have it immediately available, but if I remember correctly it was in a sidebar.

Hope this is something useful for you.

Good luck,

Richard

I have tried the "puffball" approach and it didn't work well. That approach seems only to work for background areas. The spot in question is very much in the foreground on my layout. If I get a chance, I will take some pictures of the hill in question for reference purposes so that the group can see what I'm looking at.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 24, 2016 2:12 AM

Good Morning!

What a night - I maybe caught 3 hours of sleep, not more, rather less! I got up early to catch the fresh morning air and made use of the early hour to finish the tunnel portal, install it on the layout and shoot a couple of pictures!

Looks right to me!

FRRYKid - trees make or break the appearance of a layout and unrealistic looking trees certainly can destroy all your efforts to make it look right in all other areas and aspects. Good looking trees are expensive, it you buy RTR trees. Heki offers kits for quite nice trees and so does Woodland Scenics. Get one of those kits and give it a try!

I am not happy with some of the trees on my Swiss layout (the ones around the station and the other buildings) and they will eventually be replaced with better ones, if I can spare the money. I am sure this will add some $$ to the sales price when it comes to selling the layout.

TTFN - I will stop by  a little later!

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