Good afternoon, It's a drippy day here with the possibility of a couple more day's rain. Friends are trying to finish harversting wild rice and we will be back tomorrow rain or shine. At least this is one grain that can be harvested in the rain.
Wife leaves for D.C. on Monday. She has been packing up to go back to Ohio so I don't have to do much outside of packing up the truck.
Would like to get in a least one day of train spotting of the Hudson Bay Railway before I leave.
YWG, the frost depth seems to be a very fickled number in terms of building codes. Don't know what my local code number is but I have lived in SE Ohio for nine years and am sure the frost penetration has never been one foot deep but would guess code is probably 3 ft.
Have a good day.
Jim
G'd Afternoon Fellas.
Well, fall is upon us, I do beieve. Trees are really changing colors now and it has been a cloudy drizzly day. Hard to believe that October is almost half over. My wife always says " be positive, the glass is half full, not half empty" So in that vien, It is only a couple of weeks to All Hallows Eve. Whoopey.......
The good Woman gets home in a couple of hours from her European and G.B. tours. 8051 Kms of flight today so I imagine she won't want to go out dancing tonight. Lol.
It will be good to have her home again and I look forward to all the stories she will have to tell about the things she and her Sisters did.
Have been busy here today. I went to the eye clinic at 7:30 this morning then came home and did some chores to get the place presentable for the Wife's return. Had a couple of hours of a nap over the noon hour and a bit of running around this afternoon. Now it's time to feed the dog, and myself, and get to the Airport.
I did finish a caboose last evening that has been giving me some trouble ( maybe not). It is probably my eyesite, missing fingers etc. that are causing the grief. This is the first model that will have to do with the three foot rule, but I guess that is OK as this is no museum.
I have another day off tomorrow. Might get some train time in if the Wife wants to sleep off the jet-lag. That will be the retaining wall undernieth and behind the elevated station. It's a good thing it's removable.
Ulrich, I sure like your artistic and video skills as well as the music. Keep up the good work. You will overcome, I would bet on it.
YGW. So glad to hear you are back on Standard Time with the old ticker. You had quite a few of us worried here.
Ken, have you made anymore progress with the retaining wall and fence?
Garry, the way you get around they should pay you by the mile. Phoenix next Eh?
SaronTerry, shoot me an message with what you have........
Dennis (V8 Vega) Did you at one time have a Vega? I did, it was the Country Squire type edition wagon. Litterly ran the wheels off of it. Only had the aluminum 4 cyl in it. But shortly after getting it I noticed how hot the driveshaft tunnel was inside (on the carpet) and I knew right away why so many of them had engine problems. The owners manual said to run a 190 degree thermostst in it year round. (planned obsolesence). Every summer I would drop it back to a 160 degree thermostat and ran it over two hundred thousand miles and then gave it to my second oldest Son who drove it another 30 thousand and then the body was falling off, but the motor was still going good.
Wonder where Choo Choo Willie is these days, as well as Paul, from Fenley, Nevada.
sure miss some of the old Gang, wish they would check in again.
Johnboy out......................for now
from Saskatchewan, in the Great White North..
We have met the enemy, and he is us............ (Pogo)
Good evening .
Ulrich ... Regarding the MIA's, I wish people would at least say "Goodbye" if they are done visiting the Diner. .... Regarding your question, I think we should strive to keep the Diner a positive experience for everybody. I liked your tours. .. Maybe more photos will add interest too.
JohnBoy .... How far is Billings to your home ?.... Sounds like a long drive, but probably with very little traffic. .... Also, I think I have said there is a model railroader in Montana not very far from Billings. ... Our next trip is at the end of the month to AZ, but we just found out we might have to make a fast trip to Cincinnati before then. Not sure. ... Will you try surgery again to open up things, or was the last experience bad enough so you will not try again?
YGW ... Hope you stay healthy now.
Happy Model Railroading .
GARRY
HEARTLAND DIVISION, CB&Q RR
EVERYWHERE LOST; WE HUSTLE OUR CABOOSE FOR YOU
Afternoon Dinners
Flo, please.
Day Off, day off my caboose! Bet I was in the car for 4 hours today running here and there. Wednesday will be more of the same. I just hope I feel good in the morning so I can get the darn grass cut!
YGW Tonight and Wednesday will not be good days to talk. Best thing would be call me a work anytime I am there. I will be there Thursday and Friday from 11:00 AM 8:00 PM Thurs and Friday, Sat 10:00 to 6:00 and Sun 12:00 To 5:00.
Latter, Ken
I hate Rust
Well, tomorrow we look at two more MRRing spaces with LR, and BRs over it.
Dunno, one is out in the country where it most likely may NOT have a cable high speed internet connection, though. If It doesn't, I could disapear from the diner also...
the other one is a might smaller, smaller as in 750sf. The country one is double htat, but we like the locale of the 750sf 2 BR one.
So, the computer course is over for tonight I realize I have forgotten more info than HS-ers are learning today.....
V8Vega_ IF I were to have a vega, it'd HAVE to be the country squire station wagon model. We had a FOrd Pinto as seond car in my sr year {and beyond} until I bought my first truck. I would rather have had the 'station wagon' model if it {rare here}, but we had the Pony Hatchback. Nice little car, until my brother totalled it, then they fixed it and he totalled it again. Won't go into those details, but thats what happened to it.
so dunno, its late and time for second sleep...
-G .
Just my thoughts, ideas, opinions and experiences. Others may vary.
HO and N Scale.
After long and careful thought, they have convinced me. I have come to the conclusion that they are right. The aliens did it.
Well, I see no one has been in since my middle-of-the night post.
GM, MEN!
Today is Wednesday September 16th, 2015, only what, 9 days to my B-day? You all got your presents to me in the mail?
Today's Word:
Today's quotes:
We keep moving forward, opening new doors, and doing new things, because we're curious and curiosity keeps leading us down new paths.
All the adversity I've had in my life, all my troubles and obstacles, have strengthened me... You may not realize it when it happens, but a kick in the teeth may be the best thing in the world for you.
HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY!
It´s way past lunchtime and, although I had a wholesome lunch, I am getting hungry again. Chloe, how about a sliche of that cherry crumble pie, with a topping of vanilla ice cream and rum raisins? Add a mug o´ coffee to that, please!
Good Afternoon, Gentlemen!
My morning was filled with a routine visit to my doc. He ad, as a matter of fact, I are very pleased with how my health is developing. OK, there are still limitations as to my walking and the use of my left hand, but I am starting to feel better. I also got two shots - against flu and pneumonia, jsut to keep me out of trouble during the upcoming sneezing, coughing and (you name it) season.
Developing layout ideas and preparing detailed drawings has really turned into a hobby within the hobby for me. I quite like this "computer-assisted imagineering"! The software I now use will have a feature enabling one to run a train over the layout and view it in 3D - who needs to actually build the layout then?
Oh c´mon, guys - I don´t really mean that. Nothing beats the actual building of a layout!
Before going for a little nap, I´d like to show two pictures of my layout plan - one showing catenary detail and the other one showing the layout a little clearer than those blurred pics in the video:
Those two pictures give you an idea of how much work is involved in preparing the plan for even a small layout like this one. None of the catenary components is available as a standard object, each item had to be individually drawn. Ditto for buildings and structures. What makes drawing an object a challenge is the fact that the tool does only provide a 2D drawing feature to which you add info on position in a 3D environment and height. Checking is done in the 3D viewing feature. This process makes drawing an object an iterative process -
As I like this ordeal "work" quite a lot (and with nothing better to do at the moment) I´d like to offer my help in developing ideas for a small layout, jus as I have done previously. This is my contribution in the attempt to make this thread more interesting. This service is for friends only and free of any charge or obligation (on both accounts). How´s that?
Have a great day!
RideOnRoad Galaxy: This is my second time around for the hernia repair. The first one was the right side about 21 years ago. It took this long for the left side to get jealous of the cool scar on the right side and to decide it wanted one of its own.
Galaxy: This is my second time around for the hernia repair. The first one was the right side about 21 years ago. It took this long for the left side to get jealous of the cool scar on the right side and to decide it wanted one of its own.
Tee hee...Everything that is possible to do bi-laterally {both sides}, I have to do it seems. {only one gallbladder so only one cholecystectomy, only one stomach, so only one Nissan fundoplycation}. The only hting NOT operated on is feet, brain, and hips-YET the R hip has a labral tear. Brain gets altered by meds though.
Currently we are struggling with whether to do the L shoulder or not as the R shoulder is not recuping as expected. Part of it is suffering form computer-sitting-itis, a modern ailment!!
oh well, I do the best I can. And suffer other times!LOL
Ulrich: Looks simple, good and plain. Easy to execute.
I would like somehting like that in Z scale in a plastic under-bed box like this:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Rubbermaid-Wheeled-Underbed-Box/38664630
That is about all I can get into it I think. just a simple oval {or maybe two} and a siding or two. OF course, my HO scale layout is a double interconnected oval, wiht a 4 siding Spur yard and a 2 spur engine servicing area.
I read what you said aobut people's typing in the ohter htread. YOu may have noticed my "T" and "H" are almost ALWAYS reversed. that is how htey typically come out I have to be careful for professional work to correct htem. Thing is here with no spell check workign, I don't often get or cathc my reveresed letters or typos. that {typos} I am quite capable of getting and i get worse the longer I have been typing. Keyboard differences also hamper my abilites. Fr you, I will try to be better. but don't count on it.
I don't often cathc things as they "look ok to my brain" and come out of my fingers that way.
I am GREAT at remembering patterns of numbers,,, but like phone numbers, it is really the pattern of dialing I remember, not necessarily the number itself!
later all
Galaxy - I know there are a number of people in here subjected to various forms of dyslexia - like you, Ken and others. I did not mean these people, nor the occasional "typo", but those who make a rather "relaxed" use of their native language, without taking care whether they are properly understood. It´s a sort of disrespect which we encounter in about every aspect of life these days. I have a strong dislike for disrespectful people!
Back to "your" layout - so the box is 19.6" by 43.5" - is that correct? That´s actually quite big for a Z scale layout! Z scale, however, is not so well suited for a switching layout, so my best bet would be a kind of display layout, depicting a small station with some industries served by rail, set in a rather flat terrain (the box ist not too deep) - something like the "Beer Line". I´ll give it a start, based on Rokuhan (Micro Trains) track! It´ll take a while, though.
Good Morning
Well we are just back from the last 'birding and breakfast' and a nearby wildlife sanctuary. Had a very nice morning with mild temperatures for this time of year.
Amazing how many forum members owned Vegas. I had one too. Mine was a '71 with the high output engine and a 4 speed. I only had it 2 years but it was on its way to self destruct. After only 24k miles it was starting to burn oil and rust. I traded it on a new '73 Nova coupe with a 350. It was a nice car but terrible on gas. The best highway mileage it got was 15 mpg. Other than that it was a nice car.
Well time for something, I guess. Maybe I'll have a coffee and think about what that might be.
I agree about the MIA's but they have moved on so I suppose there isn't much use in worrying about what became of them.
Talk to you soon,
CN Charlie
I never owned a Vega (a buddy of mine did) but I did own a '67 Dodge Dart with a 318 under the hood. It was pretty much my first car. I did have to fix the heater before my wife agreed to marry me.
Richard
Uhlrich wrote " Other "oldtimers" just left without a word or even passed away." I had a friend who would visit. He did the odest thing. When he was ready to leave with out saying anything he would just get up and go. No good bys, see ya later - he would just leave. I wish more people if they planned to drop out would say good by.
Garry Thanks appreciate your words of encouregment
Johnboy - made me chuckle with "std time" yep its good to be back on std time : )
Ken - I will call tomorrow.
Won an N&W hopper yesterday on flea bay. less than $4 but shipping is $4.50 - go figure. And lost a bid on a bowser covered N&W hopper. went to $10 and stopped bidding.
Out here there is an auction house for farm animals. They have professional people who run the price up. Two friends of mine went to buy a pony for one of the guys daughter. They picked the pony out in advance and when the pony came up for auction my friend Richard excused himself and went and sat down to NEXT the "professional bidder" As soon as the one guy started bidding on the poney the pro started to raise his arm up to start running up the price. Richard told him "you raise that arm and I will break it " everyone couldnt get over how cheap that poney went for My friend Richard is something else. I could tell stories about him for hours. Remind me sometime to tell you about him and our deck building expierence.
Gotta get back to w**k TTYL
YGW
Speaking of Vegas, how many of you are aware GM designed them so they could be shipped vertically from the factory in special railcars?
GM automotive engineers coordinated with railroad mechanical engineers so Vegas would be shipped nose down. Special consideration was needed regarding fluids in the engine and battery as well as gasoline in the tank.
This was done in order to ship more Vegas per railcar which kept the shipping costs down. GM was doing all it could to be competetive with Asian imports arriving on the West Coast.
The specialized railcar was called a Vert-A-Pac....
Two over medium, fried hash, black coffee. Thanks, Flo.
Disclaimer: This post may contain humor, sarcasm, and/or flatulence.
Michael Mornard
Bringing the North Woods to South Dakota!
Bayfield Transfer Railway Two over medium, fried hash, black coffee. Thanks, Flo.
Bayfield,
Pull up in a booth, stoke your fire, and have a sip of and some or on me!
Again
Here, you can talk about your day, or your MRRing. We all!
Hi Fellas,
Am I still in time for a late lunch? Chloe, I'll have my usual Double Denver with home fries, gravy on the side, and a double RBF. Please and thanks.
Garry,I bought a Vert-a-pack, ( IC. version ) when they came out a couple of years ago. Not that I can run it as it is really too big for my layout, but I thought they were neat and I wanted one for memory sake of my old Vega. They also shipped Ford Pintos in them as well.
You were asking about the distance to my Son's place. Billings is about 500 miles from here and his home is about 12 miles west of Billings.
In regard to the Dilation of my Esophagus, my feelings for quite some time now is that I do not think I will go back to it. I felt like it took about 5 years off my life, more so than the Cancer treatment, and I don't have that many more five year periods to give away. I have also proved that for the last year and a half I have kept myself alive, healthy and have actually gained some weight back. Before starting on the Cancer treatment i weighed 208 lbs. I went down and stabilized at 172 and then with this last fiasco I lost another 9 lbs., then down to 163. This morning I weigh in at 174.
A few months ago I sent you a PM. that I don't think you realized as it never got answered. It is still hanging there >>>>>
Dennis, Thanks for the history of your Vega experiences. I far as I am concered they were a fun little car, and for me very comfortable. The bucket seats were just right for me. A couple of times I drove it straight through to Salt Lake City and got out of it in far better shape that when we took the Buick Electra.
My Wife arrived home, with Sisters in tow, last evening around supper and is quite fatigued from the holiday and jet lag, but they sure had a wonderful time and were treated wonderfully on the various tours. Has lots of stories to tell and is only getting started.
Moon Boy, (James) heres to a safe drive home.... Glad you enjoyed the Canadian Hospitality. I envied you this year, I never got to wet a line.
Well, all for now Gang, will check back later.
Keep smiling,
Johnboy out.....................for a while
Heartland Division CB&Q Where is everybody ? There must be leftoever donuts in the Diner because nobody is here eating them.
Where is everybody ?
There must be leftoever donuts in the Diner because nobody is here eating them.
I'm here...in the back....with a couple of dozen donuts!!!
Got back from running around again...dang doctor appointments and suchlike...everything appears to be running good so far....
Have a great day!!!
Any argument carried far enough will end up in Semantics--Hartz's law of rhetoric Emerald. Leemer and Southern The route of the Sceptre Express Barry
I just started my blog site...more stuff to come...
http://modeltrainswithmusic.blogspot.ca/
Bayfield (Michael ... Welcome to the Diner.
JohnBoy .... I do not see a PM from you in my inbox here. The PM's in this forum don't work for me at all for whatever reason. ...... Feel free to send an email, but make sure the subject line says "Model Railroad" or something so it can be recognized. We share the same email address and we normally delete each other's "forwarded" emails without reading them because our inbox gets too full too fast. .... The model railroad guy in Monatana is in the forum "across the street. I think he lives not very far west of Billings. ...
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Evening Dinners
Flo, Bayfeild and I will have a please.
Another busy day off! Spent a hour and half too 2 hours scanning and printing some medical bills for the state of ILL for Sue's SSI (which pays nothing) and food stamps. The program I have for the cannon MP 495 sucks rail spikes. While the scanning speed is OK the other Bull it wants to do makes it a long project.
I have drove over 120 miles in the 2 days I have been off, but was never more than 16 miles from my house? Just a quick recap.
Tuesday
1 My bank, to cash in some change. 2 miles.
2 Work, to pick up my paycheck 10 miles 20 round trip.
3 BoS to make house payment. 4 miles, 8 round trip.
4 Shop and Save for food. 4 miles round trip.
Wednesday
5 My bank again to depoist check and cash in more change. 2 miles.
6 Bob's shop to pay for new tire, across the street of the bank so does not count miles wise.
7 Sue's foot Dr for more stuff to mail to IL. 2 miles.
8 Library for some books I have requested. 2 miles.
9 Post Offices to mail the stuff to ILL IHS, 1 mile.
10 St Louis for smokes, 32 miles round trip.
11 Shop and Save again. Sue wanted something sweat besides Sparkie and I. 10 miles round trip.
Did find the time to cut the side yard, back yard, trim some tree limpes and BBQ.
John Boy I have not touched the retaning wall for 2 weeks now. Still on my mind, but now that I cannot afford to have my grass cut, kind of on the back burner.
Ray I guess you are sure it is a 55 gallon tank, but in the one photo it looks wider than my 55 gallon and 70 gallon tall tank. (70 gallon is just taller than the 55 gallon tank)
YGW Looking forward to speaking with you! Find out what postion your daughter falls a sleep in if she knows. 93% of people are side sleepers.
Later, Ken
Good evening Diners,
Brunhilda, I'll have a cup of Earl Grey tea with cream and honey, please.
Im back momentarily. I hope I can post more often than as of late.
Ulrich: I can testify to your track planning skills. I hope people will take advantage of your generous offer to help.
Galaxy: hope that house hunt is going well.
Ken: All that and that's your day off?
Hi to YGW, John boy, Dennis, Richard, James, Garry, Angelo, Ray, and I'm sure I'm missing someone, probably several "someones."
I hope everyone is OK and safe.
Jim (with a nod to Mies Van Der Rohe)
Well, we looked at a cute little house. here:
http://www.greaterbinghamtonmls.com/real-estate/ny/vestal/gbar/201112/228-torrance-ave-vestal-ny-13850.html
Google earth it, it gives far better non-shade pics of it that are bright and show it better than the RE pic does.
It has a dry basement that is ripe for finishing, though it DOES have a sump pump. we'd have to get battery back up.
-G may not be ablet to do the stairs anyway, so....
There is a small 3 season coud be 4 season with heat added, room out behind the garage.
Dunno,The price is a bit pricey for the size,though and our agetn siad we buil in an independent appraisal for taht.
thats all for now..
laater
-G
Evenin' cellar dwellers (or wherever your trains are....).
Janie, just a refill for the decaf please.
Got busy and didn't get a chance to post yet today. Nice to see some activity in here today. Hope it keeps up!
I have been busy collecting all the "Hazardouse Household Waste" around here to take to the collection at the landfill on my way out to the museum on saturday. It is a once a year event you have to sign up for and prove you are a resident in the county (show drivers license if they actually ask for it). So I have boxed up a couple large boxes of old electroinic equipment, several old Florescent tubes and a box of CFLs, some unuseable varnish and enamel paint, and batteries to fill the back of the PiP so I can wait in line when I get there. Then I will head directly out to the Museum to work crew for RG&E and Kodak Day. If you are interested in that, you can look up info about it here: http://rochestertrainrides.com/
Galaxy, nice little house in what looks to be a good neighborhood. Here in Geneva, it would like sell for a bit more than they are asking so it may be priced fair.... I have confidence that you two will find the perfect house soon!
Blackie has been throwing up tonight. He seems to act OK but he has left several piles for me.... I just gave him some hairball medicine. That may be the problem. He is now begging for more food... I think I shall make him wait until morning and give his tummy a rest. He has dry food in the dish anyway. Manét goes to the Vet tomorrow afternoon to see how his sugar is doing. Have yet to catch him peeing so I doubt I will be able to take a urine sample over.
Ken, yes it is a 55 gal. aquarium. I checked the measurements on line and it is an All Glass 55gal. old style tank. I went to the Tropical Fish Empoium in Auburn yesterday and bought a top for it. The old one is in parts around here somewhere but is beyond cleaning I think anyway. I told the lady who works there (she has worked there for 38 years) the measurments and she said, yep 55gal. most likely AGA. She disapeared for about 3 minutes up into the loft (the place is in an old barn) and reappeared with the top. She told me if it is not the right one, bring it back and they can get one made for it. It fits perfectly. I bought a bunch of live plants, some more stone, and 10 Zebra Danios to start with. Told the lady I want to have a South American Tank so I am starting with some South East Asian fish...... The Danios are very hardy and will help get the nitrogen cycle started. Probably the first of the week I will transfer my lonely little Clown Loach over to the big tank. Then I can dreak down and clean the 20 gal thoroughly and get that moved from my kitchen to the living room. I will then have everything done out there. That means I can give the rest of the house a good cleaning!
Still waiting for the plumber and the painter. Guess I will call the paving place and get an estimate on some driveway work. That should get all of them to show up!
Have a great night! Prayers for all in need.
73
Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO
We'll get there sooner or later!
Wish me luck. I'm doing a sleep study Monday night, my doc thinks I may have sleep apnea.
Actually I'm almost sure of it... I sleep 9 or 10 hours a night and I'm always tired. I don't even have energy to build car kits. Speaking of which I just finished an Accurail 40' gon. They are really nice kits.And thanks for the welcome. And the beer.
Okay, so I do build a little bit. But it takes me two weeks instead of two nights to finish a kit like the Accurail one. Cement on one or two parts and I'm done.At least if it's something like apnea it can be treated.
Bayfield:
I have had a CPAP machine for sleep apnea for many many years now. Been through 2 machines.
Nothing to it. The sleep study that is. You sleep, but the next night, if you have SA they will put a CPAP on you..it will start off being a bit liek sticking your head out a window of a fast moving highway speed car! SO beware,,,stick it on and FORCE yourself to breath WITH it, NOT fight against it. But, It wouldn't have a problem if you did have problems wiht it.
ALSO, I didn't have a "well rested feelign" for a while, and still don't often feel that way! SO don't expect to wake up "refreshed, and ready to take on teh world," but KNOW you will BE rested...
just FYI
Have a restful night's sleep everybody!
Today is Thursday, September 17th, 2015!
only 8 more days after today for my B-Day, Get your presents to me in the mail!
ROAR
CPAP machines. LION has one of those. Him just uses the "nasal pillows" but of course him have problem with opening mouth. LION puts on a soft foam C-colar before bedtime, keeps mouth closed. They will not tell you that, since it is a non-standard remedy for which they do not get reimbursed and you would have to pay for out of pocket. But the little velcro strap that they will sell you for this purpose costs just as much (go figure) and does not work (in opinion of LION) half as well. (read not at all.)
The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.
Here there be cats. LIONS with CAMERAS
Mornin' everyone!
Zoe, I'll have a bowl of Heritage Flakes Cereal with fresh blueberries and a pot of Marrakesh Express Dark Roast Coffee. Yes, my R&GV RR mug will do nicely.
Michael (Bayfield), The sleep test is a piece of cake! Most doctors are now using an at home system, where you are instructed on how to put on a small computer thingie that measures breathing, blood presure, blood oxygen level, and heartbeat. Then you just sleep (somewhat) as you normally would (or wouldn't). Next day you take it back to them, and later that day they let you know what is going on. At least that is what they did for me. Didn't have to go to their center and be monitored all night while you toss and turn and try to pretend to be asleep.... I also use the nasal pillow type of face thing and while I get a touch of dry mouth on occassion I am not bothered by it. Haven't slept so good in many years as I do now. Not hard to get used to at all. Oh! Welcome aboard the diner! Good to have you here...
Manét has an appointment for a blood sugar check today. I do hope he has improved! I managed to get a urine sample from him this morning. He climbed in the litter box after his breakfast and I managed to get a small plastic container under his butt and catch enough to do the trst. I will be taking that over to the vet soon so they can run the test and have the reslkuts when I get him there this afternoon. I will be checking the house for any more stuff to take over to the landfill Saturday morning for the Haz. Waste day.
Should get busy doing some stuff that needs to get done I guess. Catch you all later!
Another glorious morning in Arizona. The morning temperature was 75, making for a great ride. Add to that riding with a neighbor-friend, and it made for the perfect way to start the day. It is still getting warm in the afternoon (near 100) but as long as it cools down in the evening, I can live with it. It is also drying out some--the morning humidity was about 47% and by this afternoon it should drop into the low 30%'s. We are nearing the perfect time of year for riding, and I will be knocked off the bike for 6-8 weeks with the surgery. Oh well, what can you do.