Frank ... The kit was made by Alloy Forms. ... It had the two pieces for the bogie with crude looking leaf springs molded in. I could not use that because there was only one drive axle with wheels. ... They did include the wire, but I just super glued the tube which holds the axle to the frame. I placed it directly on the frame ahead of the molded-in place to screw in the tandom assembly. ... Later, I filed off those molded-in pices so I could again glue the tube under the hitch. .... The frame sections now have plastic strips with super glue on each side of the frame to hold it together. It should hold together okay after placing on the layout. It will not be moved often. ... I will remember your suggestion for the trailer king pin. Look at the Great Northern trailer and it sits too high on the resin kit tractor I made because of the king pin. The GN trailer is an Ulrich Models kit just like the Burlington trailer.
GARRY
HEARTLAND DIVISION, CB&Q RR
EVERYWHERE LOST; WE HUSTLE OUR CABOOSE FOR YOU
Garry,
When I first saw Your other pic', I took a quick glance saw the long frame and thought it was a tandem. That is how the kits were, long frame tandem, short frame single axle. Was that a new kit You bought? What happened to the tandem axle bogie? The tandem bogie was held in place by a screw, the single axle was held in place by wire around the rear axle housing. If You didn't have the tandem axle bogie set-up A-line has a up-grade kit for Ulrich Tractors, that come with axle bogies axle's, wheels and vinyl tires to replace the cast metal wheels the kit came with. And you could have left the mud flaps on, just reverse the way that they went on and they won't hit the dolly legs. I'll take OMG back now. LOL.
Still like to know about the stone wall though.
Take Care!
Frank
Btw: I would have cut the large king pin off the trailer and drill a hole to start a #0 3/8 long round head screw in the hole and cut the head off, instead of drilling out the tractor's fifth wheel hole, that way the trailer can ride in the Intermodal trailer hitches, I do that to all the trailers, the ones that have the large king pin, Herpa and some other European imports are like that.
Good Morning from northern Nevada
Hot Coffee for me.
Not used to being up this early, I'm a night shifter, but having two 4 day weekends in a row has my internal clock a little wonky.Anyway. It's 27 degrees under a sunny cloudless blue sky. The 9000 ft snow capped Sierra Ridge 35 miles away in Carson City is clearly visible.
In light of another thread here on these forums I got to thinking about a challenge, a dream of sorts that started more than 36 years ago.
I grew up with the Reading Railroad in a northern suburb of Reading PA and can remember watching many Reading trains running up and down Temple Hill...later Conrail. One particular train, however, sticks in my mind. The 'Joanna Turn'. It was an iron ore train that ran back and forth from the Grace Mine in Morgantown to the blast furnaces of Bethlehem Steel in Bethlehem. The train was pulled typically by three of the five GP40-2's the Reading had.
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2706616
It was during highschool 36+ years ago I decided to pursue the dream, to accurately model the five engines. Well...finally...the dream is almost complete. 3 are finished and on the layout and the other two are in the works with decals and some touch up remaining. Though it's a very small thing in much larger picture, it's a milestone as a modeler.
Just thought I'd put it out there
Have a great day everyone.
Mark H
Modeling in HO...Reading and Conrail together in an alternate history.
zstripe Just thought I would stop in and say Hi to everyone! Got a lot going on. Garry.....Thanks for Your kind word's....but by no mean's do I consider myself an expert.....been around many, many blocks in my time, yes. Your Mack looks good.....but...OMG You changed a West coast tandem long frame into a single axle bouncer. LOL. You would know what I was talking about, if You drove one. Those 50's trucks did not have air ride seats or shocks and when driving on any road would bounce you to death, the longer the frame the better the ride. But in the Midwest and East coast they had a law called Bridge law that restricted overall length, weight, axle placement so the long frame tandem would have been restricted, but not on the west coast, that's what Ulrich based that Mack coe H Model after. I thought You were just going to cut it down some, but leave it tandem. I'm interested in Your stone wall, is it a Chooch or something like that? Let me know if You would Please. Gotta go for now. Take Care, All! Good to hear from You, Lael, hope all is going OK. Frank
Just thought I would stop in and say Hi to everyone! Got a lot going on.
Garry.....Thanks for Your kind word's....but by no mean's do I consider myself an expert.....been around many, many blocks in my time, yes. Your Mack looks good.....but...OMG You changed a West coast tandem long frame into a single axle bouncer. LOL. You would know what I was talking about, if You drove one. Those 50's trucks did not have air ride seats or shocks and when driving on any road would bounce you to death, the longer the frame the better the ride. But in the Midwest and East coast they had a law called Bridge law that restricted overall length, weight, axle placement so the long frame tandem would have been restricted, but not on the west coast, that's what Ulrich based that Mack coe H Model after. I thought You were just going to cut it down some, but leave it tandem. I'm interested in Your stone wall, is it a Chooch or something like that? Let me know if You would Please.
Gotta go for now.
Take Care, All! Good to hear from You, Lael, hope all is going OK.
Frank ... I edited my post so you can see how the truck looked before shortening the frame. It already had a single drive axle. The tractor's mud flaps were too far back from the wheels, and they would bump into the trailer dolly legs ( or whatever they are called). I also drilled a larger diameter hole in the tractor's hitch so the large pin on the trailer would go into it.
YGW .... Yes, Jeff is in a better place. Heaven will not be the same with his Franken-Diesels running around.
Hello all and Happy New year.
Garry - if one believes in the after life promised in the bible Jeff is not only walking he is RUNNING right now. It is promised that there will be no sickness, no tears, streets of gold etc... Yep I believe he is running.
Dennis - sorry for your loss. I can tell you after all that I have been through ( the loss of my mother at an early age, all my grandparents and in the not so distant past loss of my wife ) life does get better. There is a light at the ned of teh tunnel and no it is not the Big boy head your your way to steam you over. Hang in there.
Richard, Jerry, Reinhard - welcome happy to see you.
Flip. Cuda - Ken Howdy ! Ken did you say those bright yellow cars have horn hook couplers ?
Galaxy - will you be adding back in the word of the day soon ?
Went to the saw bones this morning for multiple issues. My wrist has been killing me. A year or so ago I fell at work and broke both wrist. Now the right one is killing me. The doc thinks it may be carpel tunnel (sp? ) brought on by the breaks. I hope that doesnt mean surgery. the vampieres of course had to take some blood for studies.
Lael - I hope you drop in often and let us know how things go in your life. Your big brother was loved here.
TTYL
YGW
Douglas: Got it! Sent one back your way! and you are so welcome!
Ulrich: Oh,. to have all that space for such a layout, even if you don't care for spots on it! To HAVE the space to make such errors, oh my!
To Any & ALL: thank you for the kind words on what I said about Jeffrey.I didn't start out to write a whole expose on him, it just came pouring out of my fingers...It would have made a great eulogy I think. He'd be proud. He will be missed by many. For those who didn't know him on here or other sites, perhaps you get a sense of him from what all we say about him! HE WAS a winderfull person.I HOPE little sister approves!.
WEll, today, with the weather that is on the way I guess, has my back giving me grief.
I have only accomplished a few things before my shoulder gave out and my back is complaining {or AS JEFFREY would say "It's hurling insults at me"}.
so it will be a day of rest and checking the budget for the coming month...boring! but necessary!
well, that is about it.
Have a great afternoon!
MAil will be in soon.
later
-G .
Just my thoughts, ideas, opinions and experiences. Others may vary.
HO and N Scale.
After long and careful thought, they have convinced me. I have come to the conclusion that they are right. The aliens did it.
Good Evening, Guys!
I had an interesting afternoon at my MRR friend´s place. When I arrived he was laying out the track on his layout and ran into some problems. Like many others, he placed the track too close to the wall, leaving no room for a transition between scenery and the backdrop. Moving the track more to the front of the layout did not work out, but we found a way to solve this issue with a combination of walls, arcades and small slopes. Another issue was the track at the station. He wants to re-use his TT, but had the lead to it crossing the main. The station also had too little of a "substance" to justify a TT.
This was his plan:
.. and this is what I made out of it, incorporated into his drawing done in MSPaint:
The layout is basically a folded dogbone, the theme a branchline somewhere on the German Baltic Sea coast. The TT is still somewhat of an overkill, but it is his layout ... . I am not particularly fond of that switchback in the harbor part of the layout either, but could not persuade him to change that - yet
I still don´t know what to do with my own layout ideas. Lothar told me to go forward with that plan of mine, but, as I said before, something keeps me from doing it.
Chloe - it´s supper time in my neck of the woods - I think I´ll go for a Barry-sized burger with all the works and a JSTL, thank you!
Mornin' everyone!
Zoe, just a bowl of Oat Squares cereal and my dark roast coffee, please.
Sun has been trying to peek through every once in a while here in the Finger Lakes Region. Currently 32°F outside with a high today of 31°F. Ah.... yep! That's what it says!
I have to run some errands today. Almost out of my favorite Dark Roast Coffee beans and need a couple other items from the natural food store downtown. Will drop off a couple NMRA Division Newsletters to the LHS right across the street from the store while I am down there. Then a run to the Credit Union to deposit a check into the MLK Account. After that I need to get writing my my Clinic for the Meet on the 10th.
Been a lot of chit chat from the R&GV RR Museum folks about the new bridge that will be replacing the old 1875 Portage Bridge over the Genesee River in Letchworth State Park Southwest of Rochester, NY. There is some fasinating history of the first and second bridges the Erie built way back. http://www.letchworthparkhistory.com/bridge.html The old span will be removed, but parts of it will be preserved. More about it here.
Douglas, Good to have you aboard! Enjoy the trip....
Catch you all later!
73
Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO
We'll get there sooner or later!
Good morning fellow railfans, top of the day to you all! Flo, my usual and a blue plate breakfast special please. Put a lil A&A in Ken's mug, Im sure he wont mind .
Galaxy - Message recieved and duly noted! Thank You!!!! 2 PMs sent back your way.
In General - I never met Jeffrey in the same sense most of you folks did. I got here(sic) too late. So it is really nice about what you said of him. Gives us that didnt know him, a frame of reference to go by when the name "Jeffrey" is mentioned.
I really must say i am at a loss for not having met him. You folks talk very highly of him. I would like to think this is the kind of person I would count among my friends. However.....
Though I have been reading MR for many decades, I never really perused this site until the last year or so. I have always taken part in "chat rooms" or "forums" since these types of media came into being (early 90's). And have met MANY kind folks all over the world.
And I would like to say having been here for just a short time, that there are others here who seem to equal Jeffreys attitude and demeaner about things. While we mourn for Jeffrey, I would like to offer praises to the ones here with us today. Kinda befitting what Galaxy said above... "if gone today, shoulda treated you better yesterday".
My point is, i cant acknowledge Jeffrey in a personal sense, but i can state that in my short time here, i have met alot of you characters who seem to me, to be of equal stature in person and attitude. I see potential here for many lasting friendships, and an over abundance of vital info to be shared.
So consider this 'yesterday', and know that i am thankful for the kind words, commradery, and enjoyment you folks bring to me. I only hope that my contributions can be equalled to that mentioned here.
I notice alot of you are not in 'perfect' health. And as much as Jeffreys departure took some by suprise, i wanted you folks to know all this, should others indeed leave without warning. Not trying to be grim here, yet thankful and appreciative.
In a sense, i grieve for Jeffreys loss, but Im glad yall are still here. I probably dont say it enough, but Railfans really are some of the best people on the planet. Thus why i am claiming a booth here in the diner. I have no problem investing in worthy causes, or people. And look very much forward to it!
PEACE my friends!
Douglas
Good morning Todd . I wonder what you are having for breakfast. Oh never mind. I don't reallt wish to know.
Galaxy ... That was a nice write up about Jeff.
I remember a couple of things Jeff said to me in our last phone call. He was in the hospital and was recovering from his last amputation. He had no feet anymore. Showing his humor, he said at least he no longer needed to own toe nail clippers. On a serious note, he showed his courage and determination. He told me the phrase "I can't" has never been in his dictionary. He told me he would walk again.
I admire Jeff's courage and determination. As we remember Jeff, let us follow his good examples. Don't allow "I can't" in your dictionaries.
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Happy Model Railroading!
Todd
Central Illinoyz
In order to keep my position as Master and Supreme Ruler of the House, I don't argue with my wife.
I'm a small town boy. A product of two people from even smaller towns. I don’t talk on topic….. I just talk.
Good Morning!
After a really nice New Year´s day, our weather is back to what´s normal for this time of the year - dull and gray, with quite a lot of wet stuff expected to come down - yuck!
I had a mile long HD list to w*rk down this morning. Our food supply needed replenishment, the usual beginning of the month banking business to be performed and a number of odds and ends following the holiday season to be done. The Christmas decoration is packed up for the year and I have to bring it upstairs to be stored in our attic. I managed to sneak in some minutes to go to our home improvement palce to check on the availibility and prices of the plywood I need for the benchwork. I don´t know what it is, but something kept me from buying it. I am still having unspecified second thoughts about the layout. I sure wish I could come up with something equally nice, but more compact. Endless searches did not result in any new idea. That sucks!
Galaxy - thanks for your thoughts on Jeffrey. I would have loved to meet him in person, or only speak to him over the phone. We exchanged a number of PM´s and emails, some of them filled with his distinct, native humor. I still feel bad about not being able to help him more when the tree fell on his trailer. I did send him a couple of weathered boxcars, which took 3 moths to arrive. I miss him!
There is an awfully nice smell coming from the kitchen, as Petra is preparing our lunch. I skipped breakfast this morning, so I am hungry, but I have to wait an hour before lunch is ready
I will be out in the afternoon, going to see my MRR friend. He has completed the benchwork for his new layout and is now having problems with putting the track down the way he had planned it (I knew this would come up). He is not much of a planner, more of a doer, but now has to find out that having a good plan helps a lot...
CUL!
Douglas/PM RAilfan:
I sent you a PM.
Batman: {if you even will be reading here again}AND OTHERS:: Welcome,. and Join us more often!
Regarding Jeffrey:Yes, Jeffrey had fortitude and ambition. AND often taked in positive terms, regardlesss of whether his feet were killing him before the frst amputation, or lamenting a bit {only} that he couldn't feel his fingers anymore. He asked for nothing, but had a "wealth" of friends, comrades, associates,acquaintences, and family.For someone who asked for nothing, he sure opened a lot of "mystery gifts' from friends who wanted to help him out.
Read On:
I knew him by public messages here on the forum, by PMs here, Irregularly on his forum/boards, regular email, snail mail and by phone, but was never able to meet him in person. ON the phone, he was slow southern drawl and every word carefully choosen. He had a way that you hung on to every word.We made "deals" and trades, and I was about to pack up a "big box of things i don't need" when he fell ill with the second foot.
READ ON:
He and I often commiserated with out limitaitons {i am disabled too} and helped each get past some things.His were far worse than mine. I was able to start a "Jeffrey's house fund" with the guys her, prompted to donate a total large sum to turn over to him to fix his trailer after a tree fell on it. I could NOT stand by and watch him spend his last $20 on a spray rubber can to just cover it and hope it didn't leak. Black mold would have put him out of house nad home. I was able to help raise some $2,500 for his repairs. He spent most of on that issue.
Read on:
The only cross word for someone I ever knew him to have, was public here: he had words about his "worthless nehew". This nephew was supposed to have removed said tree so that it WOULD NOT fall on Jeffrey's trailer. Well, since the tree did fall "before {he} got around to it someday} now you see how "worthless" the nephew Might have been.Jeffrey's opinions, not mine. I DO hope his nephew has some remorse over "If I had known you were going to die today, I would have treated you better yesterday".
I Happened to be online nad reading emails when I got an alert I had a PM on here form Jeff's little sister, alerting me to the fact he had a stroke, and knew where he was and his family. I waited pensively for a reply to the Q of "Could I share this with his friends online"? SHe said yes, so I did. HOW I happened to be the first she got a hold of, I don't know. I cna picture Jeffrey with communication chart and pointing fingers at letters/words for her to get online here, and stumbling on a PM from me, saved for some reason, and Jeffrey shaking his head furiously emphasizing to contact me to "tell the guys". I was SO FORTUNATE to be online then. I was saddned when later that night/next mornign I read she was able to contact someone else to say he had passed on. I actually cried when I read that, but was not surprised, I expected it..had a feeling it woud be the last form him. SO AMAZING all that happened so well! I could not get the words out to tell MOH, I was so shaken.It took 3 days before I could say it/read about it without tears shed. He impacted me so much!
Now we should all think in terms of "WWJD"..."WHAT WOULD JEFFREY DO"...a TAke-off on the religious themed one.
He shared his knowledge, passion, enthusiasm, and joy of all things model trains.The entire LR of his 8x50' trailer was his layout! Couldn't visit him without noticing it or being able to sit somewhere! I think as his fingers got more numb and useless, he turned to his second love; the old APple computers he so loved so much.
He always had a positive thought/words to give, even when faced with losing boht legs, he still had noting bad to say about his dreaded disease...diabetes. He was SURE he'd walk again oN BOTH prosthetic legs! AND I KNEW he would do it, if it had not taken a turn for the worse.He was positive up to the end I am sure.
He touched many, and many will remember him for a long time. FOr those who did not know him, he was truely a wonderful guy! ALL dealings with him were on the level, fair and square. I once made a deal with him, and he had a round about way to remind me I had forgotten to send the check for the return shipping, but he sent it on to me anyway. I wrote an apolgy and sent it off with a bonus for having to wait right away! The reason was so importnat, is he ALWAYS had a razor thin margin on funding anything. I KNOW that routine! I was so ashamed I apologized profusely for a month afterwords!
well, I think I have just eulogized Poor Jeffrey! I didn't intend to, but I think I did.ANd I finally could do it without tears flowing.
Rest IN PEACE, My friend...
Today's Quotable Quotes:Starting over:
Evenin fellow railfans! Hope everyone is up to snuff today. Flo, shoot me a fizzbuster in a frozen glass si tu plais. Kinda nippy out there too, so better bring me a hot chocolate chaser.
Ken - caught every word of the talkin. Only took us an hour and a half .
In General - Dinner with the parental units went good. Tummy got stuffed and even topped off with a chocolate pie. Now thats good eating my friends!
Took time to spend enough to watch 2 movies. Gravity and Pirates of Carribean #3. Seen the pirate movie before, was good. Gravity was great as far as the CG, and story line was good. However, the writing pretty much never had a good head of steam on it.
Spose i should try and focus on some RR'ing. Havent done any today except post here. The evening is young, and to myself. Im sure there is some mischief to get into around here. I will catch you folks in a little while again.
Good evening ....
It's good to see some first time diners as well as some who rarely post in the diner.
Everybody is welcome.....
Have fun.
I had some model railroad time today. I shortened the frame of my Mack tractor which is part of the Burlington tractor/trailer I built last month. The frame was roughly 3" long and now it is about 2" long. Looks better to me.
Frank, our truck model expert , may appreciate it.
Edit .... Here you can see the red Burlington tractor / trailer before I shortened the frame.
Ken ... Your Dutch Cleanser hopper train is impressive.
Happy Model Railroading, everybody.
Happy New Years Fellow Dinners!
Flo, I will have a JFTL and a Beer Chaser. What do you mean the JFTL is now the JSTL? Oh, Ulrich renamed it? Guess it will taste just as nasty, so what the heck. Oh, give that Buick guy a beer as well!
Douglas it was good talking to you last night! Hope you understood talk!
I was busy at work today, but not with customers! Seem Paul the GM came by to see if the sort of manager did anything he was told to do 2 weeks ago. (Dave the sort of manager is a horder / none filing of paper work idiot of sorts) Dave even went so far to tell a fellow Co Worker Cary "I am not doing what Paul wants done because he never comes by!"
Dave got Busted Wed in a big way. Paul was POed. I have been told he took around 100 photos of the shape the store was in to show the owner. Cary was there when I got to the store and we spent 7 hours of just filing and throwing Old Out Dated Paper Work And Catalogs! I found none file paperwork from 2010? Outdated prices sheets from 2006 in the current price book?
I made 12 trips to the dumpster with junk paper work. I think Cary made 4 trips.
I could go on, but I have another Tyco Old Dutch Hopper to get on the rails.
Later, Ken
I hate Rust
thanks Jeremy you ave a nice dinner and a good day tomorrow
Evening fellas,
With todays dinner for new years it wraps up family dinners for the holiday season. I work tomorrow so might drop in sometime in the morning, if not I will talk to you guys tomorrow night.
I hope everyone had a good new years and lets hope we all have a healthy and great 2015
Thankyou everyone and everybody for renaming the Diner in memory of my brother Jeffrey Wimberly. Love you forever my big brother. I know you are keeping tabs in the diner in your special way and have a BIG smile on your face and saying love you guys tabasco lemonade on the house.
little sister Lael
I just thought I would stop by and say that I really like what has been done to the place. Naming it after Jeffrey is a class act on the part of the regulars. By keeping up to date with what he would tell us about what was going on in his life through the diner, I really admired his fortitude.
Jeffrey, (like me) was a huge Star Trek fan. In one of the Star Trek movies Captain Kirk once said "is how we face death not equally as important as how we face life". In both Jeffrey set out a fine example for the rest of us to follow when we face the hurtles in our own lives that we all get from time to time. I will think of him when I face my own hurtles. I would have liked to have met him in person.
Brent
"All of the world's problems are the result of the difference between how we think and how the world works."
Modelling HO Scale with a focus on the West and Midwest USA
Afternoon all, I'm going to my grandma's house for New Year's today and almost everybody will be there. Tonight's menu Chili with cornbread and it starts 4 o'clock.
The dog's is by himself night with his daddy. I hope that will be fun other than playing video games all night long.
Amtrak America, 1971-Present.
well, the parade is over now.
Doing the mundane chores that never end and never take a holiday! That is, until my shoulder gave out, and had to rest on that noise.
Can't wait the 2 full months to the 4th of March for the surgery on my shoudler, tired of it giving out on me and not being able to lift more than a loaf of pre-sliced bread.FIrst we gotta get My Other Half through surgery.
FOr those who have trouble finding something on TV...we have about 250 channels maybe 300,and I can usually find something to put on. It doesn't mean that it is brand new/never before seen by my eyes, but something to watch again. I am usually home by myself and MOH is out working,I get to watch anything, but when MOH is home we sure can argue over what to watch...
We went to bed about 9:15, got up at 11:15 and watched the silly crystal ball fall in NYC. And toasted the New Year, then went back to bed. That is how we usually do it anymore. WE are not into staying up endlessly past our bedtime to toast the NY. We are lucky to get up at all for it! A few years ago we DID sleep right through it. ANd try to get to TImes Square? I WOULD NOT. Its on my bucket list, but I cannot Stand there that long, and being fashionably late is out of the Q on that venue! I shan't do lots of things on my bucket list, so its no biggie.
Dunno what we do now...that the parade is over.
sleep more?
HAPPY NEW YEAR, everyone.
An Italian roast coffee, please.
Cheers! Rob
BroadwayLionNo diner could be complete without a LION (or a Tiger or something)
"Lions and Tigers and Bears, Oh my!"
OM Goodness, cant believe im up at this hour of the day! I dunno how you daytimers do it.
Flo - hot chocolate in a mug, bacon and eggs, and do you have any grits? Plenty of butter too if so!
In General - Much like alot of you I didnt pull any hoorahs last night. I did hear at midnight some kinda city fireworks display. Atleast I hope it was fireworks. Either that or my neighbors are hoarding cannons.
Most of the time around here boom booms and window rattling are the pervue of Quantico which is north of me about 20 miles. And I swear, if they ever knock a loco off my display shelves.... IM RETURNING FIRE!
Have a NYD dinner at the parentals today. Ham and mashed taters i hear are the fare. MMMMM MMMM good i tell you! Depending on what time i get back, i dunno if i will do any RR'ing today. I like to include a little bit each day. Even if its just studying.
I do hope all of you had a safe night last night. And am looking forward to a new year of all the topics we are gonna discuss, ponder, and learn.
I spose its time to put on the sunday clothes and mosey on over to the parentals. I will check back when I get back. Enjoy the day fellow railfans!
BroadwayLion No diner could be complete without a LION
No diner could be complete without a LION
Alton Junction
No diner could be complete without a LION (or a Tiger or something)
We need to have a BEAR in here too...
ROAR
The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.
Here there be cats. LIONS with CAMERAS