Sir Madog Garry - yes, I am near-sighted. I don´t need magnifying glasses, I just have to take my spectacles off and hold whatever I want to see "bigger" close to my nose ...
Garry - yes, I am near-sighted. I don´t need magnifying glasses, I just have to take my spectacles off and hold whatever I want to see "bigger" close to my nose ...
Ulrich ... My eyes are also nearsighted, and I do take glasses off for fine detail work. Even my bi-focals are not as good when working with deatils. Unfortunately, my hands get shaky with age making fine deatil work challenging.
Ken .... Regarding Sparkie, I suspect your vet will explain what is best for Sparkie's diet. We have had vets explain diet for the dogs and cats we have owned over the years. Cheap pet food can kill an animal. Table scraps can be harmful too. .... Hope Sparkie improves soon.
Still working on the tool room / workshop so it will look better and be more efficient.
Happy Model Rairloading !
GARRY
HEARTLAND DIVISION, CB&Q RR
EVERYWHERE LOST; WE HUSTLE OUR CABOOSE FOR YOU
Morning all.
The computer store is claiming they don't have to fix it because a part they didn't warranty broke.
Anyway, happy friday all. Getting to do some train work tonight at the club. Anyone have any other exciting thing going on? I did manage to finally stop thebleeding on my bank account-so I can start saving again for more fun stuff. I did also find out i can stretch 30 dollars for a week. Have a great day all.
(My Model Railroad, My Rules)
These are the opinions of an under 35 , from the east end of, and modeling, the same section of the Wheeling and Lake Erie railway. As well as a freelanced road (Austinville and Dynamite City railroad).
Ken: Sorry to hear about Sparkie, hopefully the new meds work or the ultra sound can find something and get meds for that. Its always sad when our pets get ill.
I go in today around 10:30 guys, its a warm day out and there is a strong chance it may be the last of the season. The temp today is 25c but tomorrow and sunday the high is 11c and 13c so a big swing in direction.
Hope to gte back in later tonight sometime
have a good day guys
Morning everyone! I need coffee, and lots of it!
Ulrich - Lucky you. I get the short end of the stick here today, and have to slog through the day without help ... (the most knowledgeable guy on our team is in Germany).
Ken - good luck with all the things. Have you considered the possibility that your mattress might be a problem? I had one that was OLD (probably 20 years), and while I thought it was comfortable enough, was waking up still tired. Got a new one, and it made a marked improvement in quality of sleep.
-Dan
Builder of Bowser steam! Railimages Site
Ken: I thought I told you that I was always waiting for that "perfect wake up feeling refreshed" morning after I go the CPAP? It NEVER came, but over time of using it, I DO feel more rested for the day, Of course both MOH and myself take at least a mini-nap in the afternoon {MOH usually has a pot between clients to take one}, which may only be an option for you on your days off, it will help "pick you up" for the rest of the day..even if it's only a 1/2 hour nap! Just a suggestion. Hope sparkie is all right! THIS is half serious, half tongue-in cheeck!, BUT Maybe you could start sneaking out the junk food when she's not looking and dispose of it at work! Then If you have on a restricted food fundage, she won't have a choice to go buy more! {AGAIN: JUSt A SUGGESTION.don't want to start a war in your house!}
RAY; You didn't sday anything wrong in your "rant' on platic bags at the grocery, so don't feel bad! Reduce/reuse/recyle is agreat idea. I once lived on a large sized island {though connected to the mainland via crossing over a canal}. THERE, you had NO CHOICE! YOU took your trash to the dump with a paid for bumper sticker, reupped every year. ONCE there, you HAD to sort your trash...this was in the 80's. YOur old books in one trailer, your old newspapers in another, bottls had to be separated in separtate bins by color, plastics sorted by color in other bins. All metal went into one bin, and all yard waste NOT in any plastic bags to another spot, then and only then, could you dump "gooey household trash" in another bin.! There WAS a bin called "miscelaneous" that they monitored quite closely. The dump was monitored and secruity was tight, with hefty fines for "not following the rules and sorting" your trash. I learned then of recycling. When Broome county {where I lived when came back form that island} started IT's recycle program they expected to only reduce "garbage"' by about 35%. 5 years after the institution of all recycling, they announced they had cut out about 85%, and the recyclables brought in more money tan expected!!! I say HOORAY for recycling! They no longer have sorting you recyclables here, they have a "single source recycling" so you don't have to sort it, they do it magiacally at their facility. I DO get some plastic bags when shopping if we need them for the garbage cans around the house, and get some paper ones sometimes for putting paper or shredded documents into for recycling. I think all states/counties should recycle! Ok my "ADVISORY" is done!
Jimmy Braum: I agree with Jeffrey, IF they don't fix it, consider taking them to small claims court for either the costs of repairing it at their shop, or preferrably another shop, or if you need to get a whole new 'puter', you may get awarded those monies! But FIle QUICK so you can show it is still warranteed, adn I would buy form them again!
Today's Motivational quotes:
I see no one reported a "good deed" from yesterday under the "tell us' idea..so lets try it again today! Yesterday I DID give up a handicapped spot to some little old lady who could barely seee THROUGH the steering wheel of her big boat of a car, and I walked the further distance from a non handicapped spot. i will do that frequently , depending on my mood,, and how I feel about the person who could use it maybe more than I?
-G .
Just my thoughts, ideas, opinions and experiences. Others may vary.
HO and N Scale.
After long and careful thought, they have convinced me. I have come to the conclusion that they are right. The aliens did it.
Good Morning!
The weather beguessers told us it is going to be a nice day, but I have to see that yet. It´s gray and gloomy outside - just the right weather for a holiday! October 3rd was made into a national holiday, commemorating German unity. That´s something I could have done without.
I checked Ebay for the availibilty of cheap used Z scale track and there seems to be no shortage of that. Those curved turnouts sell for about $ 18 instead of $ 58 MSRP. I think I´d be able to bring down the cost of the track to a level where I can handle it. I also looked at the Z scale locos. There seems to be a step-up improvement in detail and performance to what I know from years back. The locos now have a 5-pole , skew-wound motor, and the steam locos of recent release have a complete set of Walschaert-type valve gear. Still not decided, though!
Ken - I haven´t had a good night´s sleep for years. I feel tired and wasted during the day, but I try to ignore it, as fighting it made it worse. I have come to terms with that situation. Does YOH know she´s putting her life at stake when eating that junk? Ken, my friend, there must be a reason behind her eating that stuff all the time, which may require some sort of counselling.
No HD list today, so plenty of time to indulge in my favorite hobby - dreaming of layouts which I never will be able to build.
Make it a happy day!
Good evening.
There is a big cold front which extends from Texas to the Great Lakes currently. It will pass through here in the middle of the night. Tornados are possible.
Ulrich .... Looks like a fun Z scale layout. If you get into the tiny scale, I hope you are near-sighted.
Ken .... Yes, Sue should watch her eating carefully, and take prescribed medications. Regarding medical bills, everyone was promised they would be saving $2500 per year with the ACA. Oh well.
YGW .... I built some of the 1/87 vehicles (3 '49 Mercury's, 2 '57 For Hardtops. 1 '50 US Mail truck with olive paint scheme.) . There are more kits to build some day. Currently, I'm cleaning up and fixing up my main work shop which was getting too messy. This is the shop for power saws, drill press, etc.; not where I make 1/87 model kits.
Regarding plastic bags, that is what we use when we clean the cat litter bioxes. Old litter goes in the used gracery bags. So, tha is sort of recycling. It is not something for the government to get involved in.
Happy Model Railroading
Evening Dinners
Flo, Please
I have had such bad news the last two days I have not flt like posting. Lot of health problems in the family. (Myself, I am fine) This meager paycheck is all but gone due to mediacl bills.
Sue stopped taking her diabetic med's right a few months ago. Checked her blood sugar the other day and it was 413! I keeping telling her to stop eating all the crap she buys, yet I keep seeing cakes, candy and junk food! She is going to the Dr Monday, there goes $100.00 and then the A1C test.
Sparkie The Rocket Dog is sick.
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Sparkie started throwing up last week. After a few days we took him to the Vet and got him some pills that should have helped, they did not help him. Got him some antibiotics, he is still throwing up. Had some blood work done and he is one sick puppy! Seems he has Inflammatory Bowel Disesas. We are getting some new med's Friday, taking in a stool sample and they want to do a Ultra Sound. That will cost $350.00 by it self. While it is worth every penny, it is just bad timing with my current income.
Decide To Go On A Diet Still sleeping badly even with the CPAP and working out. Just feel so tired all the time, so I am taking the next step. Going on a Low Carbohydrate Diet I have used when I was younger. I lost about 120 pounds that time around. My goal are modest this time, plan on lossing 50 pounds. God, looking at it in print makes me realize how fat I am!
See you all later, Ken
I hate Rust
Evenin' folks!
Janie, a cup of decaf would suit me really well right now!
Been a very long and busy day... I got ready to run the vacume cleaner this morning and found that the remote for my hearing aids no longer worked... I called and made an appointment for later inn the afternoon to see if they could fix it. I no sooner hung up than I realized what had happened. When the technition reset my hearing aids yesterday he reset them for the original remote that I wore out... Got down there and he came out and said, I know what happened", I told him, "Yeah, you set them up for the old remote..." He nodded his head. 5 minutes later they were up and working with the new remote and I headed over to get my allergy shot. That should take about two minutes... They, like all the doctors around here are now offering a patient portal that gives the patient access to their records and personal medical records on line. The nurse asked me and told her sure, I already have it at two other docs. So she set it up while I was there, adding another 15 minutes to the visit. Got back home with enough time to vacume the carpet before a Scouter friend who is the other Commissioner for the handicapped units stopped in to have us upgrade the unit trifold flyer that gets handed out to possible new members and their families.
I had baked some chicken wings and put them in the crockpot with Nance's Hot Wing Sauce earlier, and when he arrived we ordered a pizza for supper and updated the flyer. Afterwards he went over to the unit Committee meeting and I headed out to Waterloo for a Camp Properties Meeting scheduled for tonight. I got there and nobody else was there. Waited around for about 20 minutes and one other properties committee member arrived. The Summer Camp Director. We chatted for about a half hour and nobody else showed up.....??? So I came back home and went over to the unit Committee Meeting that was just ending. The two of us Commissioners and the Scoutmaster and his son who is an asst. Scoutmaster then stood around and talked for an hour.... In other words, I was busy as all get out all day and have little to show for it!
BTW, sorry for the rant yesterday. I should know better to respond to a certain person here in the forum..... I will only say that if you are one who is using "Reduce, Reuse, and Recycle", Good for you! I have been doing that for over 40 years now. I follow the philosophy that one should, "Live Simply so others can Simply Live!" Nuff said...
Be blessed and have a great night!
73
Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO
We'll get there sooner or later!
Sir MadogI just had one of those senior moments, which can make you despair! As that urban Z gauge layout is moving out of reach in terms of cost, I designed a small roundy-rounder layout, with just a couple of sidings and a spur leading to a quarry. I too a picture I found in the web as a guideline for it:
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Good evening. It's 80° with 83% humidity. The low will hit 68°, mostly cloudy with a 70% chance of showers and thunderstorm. My nephew was out working on the G20 again today which I greatly support especially considering he nearly had to carry me home last night. Saying my health is poor would be an understatement. I have several infections, under control at the moment, balance issues, and liver damage that still hasn't been identified. My energy level is very low. Just walking from my trailer to my next door neighbors trailer is an exhausting event. It also gets my heart rate way up. I've already said too much about it and I'm certainly not looking forward to my morning email. As always, anybody who doesn't believe me is welcome to come look for themselves. I've had visitors from as far away as Seattle.Today my nephew got the G20 running enough to drive it. However it kept dying on him every thirty to fifty feet. It could be from some water in the gas or a bad fuel pump relay. I think tomorrow he'll replace the relay and see what difference that makes. Myself, I dislike working on computerized vehicles. My Century was so complex that it wasn't even funny. Any time I had to get the computer read I half expected to see the blue screen of death.Time to call it a night. See y'all tomorrow.Check out Mr. Clean with the big wrench!Still have this old Westport Terminal billboard laying around.The E-R Models Rock Island FP7 is still holding down some track on my display rack.
Dr. Frankendiesel aka Scott Running BearSpace Mouse for president!15 year veteran fire fighterCollector of Apple //e'sRunning Bear EnterprisesHistory Channel Club life member.beatus homo qui invenit sapientiam
I just had one of those senior moments, which can make you despair! As that urban Z gauge layout is moving out of reach in terms of cost, I designed a small roundy-rounder layout, with just a couple of sidings and a spur leading to a quarry. I took a picture I found in the web as a guideline for it:
Looks kind of cute and would be easy to build - no grades a table top surface, foam "mountains". I then made a mistake - before investing all the time and sweat into making a nice drawing, I calculated the cost for all the track and switches. Now, hang on tight - a whopping $ 550! And that´s not MSRP! The "Bay" may bring that amount down to something friendly -. I have to check on that.
I guess I´ll have to pick up a more useful hobby - like knitting, macrame or quilting ...
Bah!
Good morning. It's 78° with 100% humidity. The high will be 90° with a fair chance of rain. with It's gray and wet here this morning. Been raining off and on for several hours now. My nephew got the Chevy G20 running long enough last night to move it out of the way. The fuel injector cleaner he'd been using wasn't cutting it. So I gave him a can of carburetor cleaner. His argument was that it's not for fuel injected engines. My counter argument was 'So what! It burns and that's what you need right now'. A few minutes later I heard the G20's engine fire up. Carburetor cleaner will also clean throttle bodies and injectors. Who's the dummy here? Today I think he's going to put a couple of cans of Sea Foam in the tank to get rid of any lingering water. No plans for today. I feel much better this morning than I did last night. The high fever went down around midnight to 101.5. A couple of quarts of ice water and a frozen t-shirt helped immensely. Frozen t-shirt? Put a folded t-shirt in the freezer for a few hours. Take it out and wear as you normally would. Old trick I learned in the army.Bachmann GP40 trainset loco with GP38-2 chassis. Note Mr. clean is along for the ride.Digitrax DZ125 decoder that went into the Pathmark GP40
Morning guys
Well the place where I ordered my C636 from called me last night at almost 8. The store is in New Jersey, so it was almost 9 there. I was suprised they called that late. Unfortunately, the C636 with snowshield I ordered (#4363) was sold out. They said they had one just like it, just a different number (#4360). They said they would throw in a free Bowser car kit for that one.
Vincent
Wants: 1. high-quality, sound equipped, SD40-2s, C636s, C30-7s, and F-units in BN. As for ones that don't cost an arm and a leg, that's out of the question....
2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.
Hi Guys.
Just a quick pop in before heading to work. I have to catch up on the diner posts, see you guys tonight
Good Afternoon!
Today´s a gray day, so I don´t have a bad feeling for not spending too much time outside.
I am still looking into various different ideas for a layout. I like the urban layout a lot, but the former financial controller in me tells me I need about $ 700 worth of structure kits to complete it! That makes it a no go !
The old layout will be gone by the end of next week, so that leaves me some time to find the "right" idea!
Jeff - I hope you are feeling better today!
Keith - Peco insulfrogs are actually fairly easy to wire - it does not require any special wiring! Just drop feeder wires to each track in your yaed, that should do it.
Garry - Oktoberfest? I have heard of such an event, somewhere down south. That´s where Hannibal dropped off the soldiers with sore feet while he was crossing the Alps on his way to conquer Rome. Just an excuse for a heavy intake of ! We don´t do such things in my neck of the woods
yougottawantaJeff - What is the reason for the new attitude of the nephew ? Di he hit his head and Knock some sense into him when he hit the ground ?
Jeff; "AMEN! I'm glad to be seeing the backside of summer too." Hey.. I'm really looking forward to colder nights. Come Winter, I'll be sleeping with one window open at night.. its above my head. Come Winter, I'll be breathing better at night.. I just want cool fresh air coming in as I sleep.
YGW. Those things in my hands are... were.. my wooden ramps I designed. I have designed..(and slowly working on it) ramps to help me with all the over's and under's in the large layout. Nothing more or less.. just my attempts to have a large N scale layout with Two Mains.. and maybe a side rail.. here and there.
The other question as far as my wiring goes... well, a long time ago.. all I wanted was a Fiddle Yard. Well .. I am finally there. Aside from the whole layout.
I'm seriously thinking about How to wire a Train Yard. It is separate from the actual Mains. The Mains will be 'HOT' .. always running up and down. With Two Mains... I should have some fun. At the very top is only One Main line... where my Yard is.
The Yard power is separate.. I want to be able to break down and stack trains for going out as well as bring in.
I'm sure, plenty of modeler's would disagree with my attempts.. but its what I want. I want trains running.. all the time.. up and down. If I want them to pull into a Station.. a flip of the switch .. and they come off the main and head down the Yard lead.
My biggest problem is..
The actual train yard is on the very top.
What I see myself doing is after laying the complete soldered train yard on the very top .. is marking area's (rail and cork) with a Sharpie.. of where the holes are to be drilled.. as well as where the wires to soldered.
Then take it to the kitchen table for soldering. But where to wire.. I have some reservations about wiring the Peco switches.. all lined up back to back. SO .. I guess I'll start with wiring the Flexi track in the middle.. (rungs of train yard) .. AND see if I have good connection across... the entire train yard.. including .. especially the Peco INSULATED switches. NOt the Electrofrog switches... I'm using just the Insulated Frog Switches. If not.. I see myself still wiring the switches.. and possibly doing that wrong.
So while I think about thinking about wiring.. I've moved onto making mountains. Compressed landscaping is not easy for me.. in fact .. I might move on.. move back to.. wiring the Train Yard.
TC Keith
Ulrich - cant wait to see the new design !
Jimmy - Hello again. Hope you stick around. Hey Flo, set up a round of coffee and donuts on me. Can I have one of them eclairs ? Yummy !
CN - Congrat on wifes retirment. Whats next?
Galaxy - Yea I know, this unfortunately is not my first rodeo ( widower ) Your comment reminds me of an old testment verse- it is better to DWELL in the WILDERNESS than under the roof of an ANGRY women - Caps I added. BUT it so true !
Howmus - Charge more for the bag ? ! I think they should give a discount for those like yourself who save them money by not using the bags.
Jeff - What is the reason for the new attitude of the nephew ? Di he hit his head and Knock some sense into him when he hit the ground ?
Garry - howdy - did you finish all of your cars ?
Well - Tomorrow you all will not her from me. Taking oldest daughter into the sawbones to see if they cn find the source of her pain. Then gotta rush back into the City to help get the sales office open. There is a certain head of sales I am not very happy with. He half set up stuff and then went on vcation while we all have to figure out how and what he wanted and he returns the day the sales office is to open. Yep there are some sales guys who need a swift kick in the hind qaurters here. Welp gotta get to w**k.
TTYL
YGW
If the computer is under warranty the shop is obligated to fix it. Not doing so breaches the contract and the shop can be held liable. The only way they can refuse is if you or someone else violated the seal.
Morning all. My computer suffered the same failure as my old one-and the shop will not honor the warranty-23 days after buying it (30 day). So yeah, I am checking on my phone until I get a friend to fix it. Well not much else is going on.
CNCharlieJeff, get yourself to Emergency ASAP. With a temp that high and your recent surgery wounds you could easily have an infection.
yougottawantaLion - Can Lions see in color ? In this area October truns from green to many colors, red, yellow, orange etc...depending on the tree.
October, October, what color is october?
October is RED. You know, "Red October"
Did you here about the comedian who got a gig in India.
Yup, It was a Pun Job.
ROAR
The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.
Here there be cats. LIONS with CAMERAS
A good Thursday morning to you all. Still raining, but, well, it's a work day and we really need the rain.
We, too, use all of those plastic grocery bags to line the can beneath the kitchen sink. If we didn't have them, we'd have to buy plastic trash bags separately, and those are heavier plastic and use even more "dinosaur dung." I can see the reasoning behind the "bring your own bag" concept, but it's not clear to me that it's really better. Waste not, want not, and we don't waste our grocery bags.
Penny is pretty much over her cold, after 2 weeks. She's back to teaching her art enrichment classes. This will be the last term for that, as she's "retiring" from this activity. Last night, she was talking about how "loud" these enthusiastic kids are. Yeah, she's ready.
It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse.
I DO hope Jeffrey went and got help...He has such bad luck about all things medical.
If I had any good luck myself, I'd wish I could rub it off on Jeffrey!
At elast he will soon have a good transport vehicle to get him around!
I am avoiding surgery-for now, but doesn't mean it won't happen later on my calcific tendonitis shoulders!
I see the Mental Health Therapist today, then see the psychiatrist tomorrow.
Have a *great* day y'all!
Good monring!
I have two Doctor's appts today, both mine and have to stop by my father's. He may have a late b-day present for me. Not counting on it, but usually when I see him after my B-day, he often does. It never comes before my b-day, I have to wait till after.
Quotable quotes:
{this one may be a bit "political"}:
War may sometimes be a necessary evil. But no matter how necessary, it is always an evil, never a good. We will not learn how to live together in peace by killing each other's children. -Jimmy Carter, 39th US President, Nobel laureate (b. 1924)
Consult not your fears but your hopes and your dreams. Think not about your frustrations, but about your unfulfilled potential. Concern yourself not with what you tried and failed in, but with what it is still possible for you to do.
and similar to what I often say about your day: "Do A GOOD DEED for someone, it may make their day"
SO:
Jeff .... I agree with CN Charlie. Get to the ER.
Hope everybody else is well. Let's make Octobera great month here.
Happy Model Rairlaoding
Evening all. HavenT been in for awhile huh?
Good Evening,
Jeff, get yourself to Emergency ASAP. With a temp that high and your recent surgery wounds you could easily have an infection.
Well today it is official, my wife is retired with a nice severance package. The university wasn't able to find her a job in the last 40 days ( paid notice period) and so the termination is now final and the severance kicks in. She is very happy.
Friends took us out to lunch to celebrate which was very nice.
I have been installing a few Easy Peasy light kits in some N scale passenger cars. Those ConCor cars are a devil to get apart. The roof which is attached to the window 'glass' comes out as one piece after you release the plastic catches on the bottom of the car. Don't know why they bother with the catches as the roof is in so tight you have to carefully pry it off with a very small screwdriver. It took me over a half hour on each car to slowly pry the roof off. The lights do look good though. I also have been putting the decals on a service station. Those pump logos sure are small in N.
Nothing more to report here.
CN Charlie
Feeling pretty poorly tonight.My temp is about 103 and I just about feel like I got hit by a truck. My nephew is working on the Chevy G20 today and he's has it started. It apparently still has some water somewhere in the fuel system. When he's got the bugs out it he'll bring it over so I can take it for a drive.
howmus Mr. V8... I have been using canvas bags for my grocery shopping for over 30 years. Same bags I might add. My late wife was the one that got us started with it way back then. I often tell the kids doing check out at the store that those bags are older than they are! If you put your brain in gear when you go shopping, you just learn to grab the canvas bags and take them with you. It isn't a big deal, and yes shoppers should be charged even more than that when they don't bring their own bags. Personally I don't like the idea of putting my food in crap made from Dinosaur Dung! The canvas bags get put in a load of wash now and then and then used and used and used.... I'm hoping that NYS will follow the lead and do the same thing. Both of the major supermarket chains here have canvas bags for sale with their adverising on them for $1. OK, Vinnie, I'm off the soapbox! As an American, I will do my best to - Be clean in my outdoor manners. Be careful with fire. Be considerate in the outdoors. Be conservation minded. -Boy Scout Outdoor Code
Mr. V8... I have been using canvas bags for my grocery shopping for over 30 years. Same bags I might add. My late wife was the one that got us started with it way back then. I often tell the kids doing check out at the store that those bags are older than they are! If you put your brain in gear when you go shopping, you just learn to grab the canvas bags and take them with you. It isn't a big deal, and yes shoppers should be charged even more than that when they don't bring their own bags. Personally I don't like the idea of putting my food in crap made from Dinosaur Dung! The canvas bags get put in a load of wash now and then and then used and used and used.... I'm hoping that NYS will follow the lead and do the same thing. Both of the major supermarket chains here have canvas bags for sale with their adverising on them for $1. OK, Vinnie, I'm off the soapbox!
As an American, I will do my best to - Be clean in my outdoor manners. Be careful with fire. Be considerate in the outdoors. Be conservation minded.
-Boy Scout Outdoor Code
I KEEP the reuseable bags in the minivan, that way I NEVER forget them!. At least 2 grocery store chains here DON'T EVEN OFFER or Have bags! YOu HAVE to bring your own, or hope to find some empty boxes form stuff to pack up in.
I admit to NOT always taking them in. Mr. V-8 said "single use bags", well we have ALWAYS reused the grocery plastic bags for trash cans and use the paper ones for shredded recyclable paper to go out curbside! We recycle aobut 80%-85% of "trash" in the county. gooey food trash gets proceesed in the landfills.
Here , RAY, the stores charge $1.99 for a small reuseable bag, and more for a "regualr grocery bag size". The double ones at one store are like $5. I got a bunch of press-open-weave bags at the $ store about 20 of them,so we are set for those. They hold a lot and don't get as dirty as the "fabric" bags that WILL eventually come apart in the laundry.
I also admit, I was never exactly what you call a "model scout' and dropped out soon after only reaching "scout' in the BSs.No, that is not true, I think, I know i earned aobut a dozen merit badges, many at camp one summer. Of course, other 'scouts' at camp weren't so "model" either...they had, Um, ahem, certain forbidden magazines with them