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Bachman 0-6-0 tank Loco Question

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Posted by BRAKIE on Tuesday, May 27, 2014 12:54 PM

What I see on that 0-6-0T is a oil bunker-see the square tank behind the cab? Notice the two doors on top of the tank.

Your tender isn't needed.

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Posted by dknelson on Tuesday, May 27, 2014 12:42 PM

I do not think that is a Bachmann engine but rather AHM, which came painted for the Hercules Powder Co. and some other road names.  It may well be of an oil burning prototype although there is a hatch of some sort on the top of the bunker which could have accepted coal.  Some of these little tank engines got their coal in buckets.    But there were oil burning tank engines and perhaps at a powder company they'd be preferred over coal burning.

AHM later had an 0-6-0T of a different design (rounded water saddle tank over the boiler) with a coal bunker that extended up to the roof so that it could be coaled at a coaling dock.

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Posted by C&O Fan on Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:42 AM

cacole

The angled boiler on yours looks like a locomotive meant for a steep uphill cog railway, and is nothing like the current model offered by Bachmann.

 

 

Yes its about 20 years old at least

Here's a better photo from the side

And although it does have a bit of a rake

I never thought it was that radical

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Posted by C&O Fan on Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:35 AM

 

 

 
 

 

 



 

 

 

 

 

 

Your model locomotive looks different from the current Bachmann Porter 0-6-0T

http://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=258_276_915&products_id=5534

http://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=5534

Your photo doesn't show the rear of the cab, but the current Bachmann Porter side tank does have a very small bunker for coal, similar to the current saddle tank.

Your model has subtlely different side tanks, is driven on the rear driver while the current model is driven on the centre driver and the style and arrangement of domes is different.

It may be an earlier Bachmann product. More recent models are more prototypically accurate.

M636C

 

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Yes its atleast 20 years old Here's a photo of the back and as you can see there is no Coal bunker or Door even outlined on the back

It was orignally labeled "Hercules"

May be just a lack of attention to detail By Bachman

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I plan on making a cab forward out of this and have already wired it for DCC

I'm currently using a Slope tender that i've added a porch with railings And a TCS 6 pin plug that runs under the porch into the tender

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But then got to thinking i should be using a Vandy Tender modified to carry oil

if in fact this doesn't use coal

I plan on using a Kemtron Brass Conversion Cab Plate To  make the cab forward

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Posted by cacole on Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:55 AM

The angled boiler on yours looks like a locomotive meant for a steep uphill cog railway, and is nothing like the current model offered by Bachmann.

 

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Posted by M636C on Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:39 AM

C&O Fan

 

 
MisterBeasley

This is my Bachmann 0-6-0T:

You can see the coal bunker at the very rear of the engine, behind the cab.  Yes, it's very small, but these were not road engines.  They would be "captive" in a small area, which would have to have a small service facility so the coal and water could be serviced frequently.

 

 

 

 

Yes i can see the coal bunker But my loco is different

it has 2 wedge shaped Side tanks and the cab is completely inclosed on the back

the only way to get coal inside would be to carry it thru the door in buckets

 

Here's a poor picture

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Your model locomotive looks different from the current Bachmann Porter 0-6-0T

http://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=258_276_915&products_id=5534

http://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=5534

Your photo doesn't show the rear of the cab, but the current Bachmann Porter side tank does have a very small bunker for coal, similar to the current saddle tank.

Your model has subtlely different side tanks, is driven on the rear driver while the current model is driven on the centre driver and the style and arrangement of domes is different.

It may be an earlier Bachmann product. More recent models are more prototypically accurate.

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Posted by C&O Fan on Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:10 AM

BRAKIE

 

 
MisterBeasley
They would be "captive" in a small area, which would have to have a small service facility so the coal and water could be serviced frequently.

 

Just for fun information.Big Smile

A  lot of times the coal was shoveled straight from a gon or from a elevated coal pile.Water coud be refilled by a fire hose hooked to a water stand.Stick out tongue

 

 

 

 

I can see how that would work on  Mr B's but on mine they'd have to shovel it thru a window as their is no door opening on the back unless Bachman left that detail off

 

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Posted by BRAKIE on Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:04 AM

MisterBeasley
They would be "captive" in a small area, which would have to have a small service facility so the coal and water could be serviced frequently.

Just for fun information.Big Smile

A  lot of times the coal was shoveled straight from a gon or from a elevated coal pile.Water coud be refilled by a fire hose hooked to a water stand.Stick out tongue

 

 

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Posted by C&O Fan on Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:00 AM

MisterBeasley

This is my Bachmann 0-6-0T:

You can see the coal bunker at the very rear of the engine, behind the cab.  Yes, it's very small, but these were not road engines.  They would be "captive" in a small area, which would have to have a small service facility so the coal and water could be serviced frequently.

 

 

Yes i can see the coal bunker But my loco is different

it has 2 wedge shaped Side tanks and the cab is completely inclosed on the back

the only way to get coal inside would be to carry it thru the door in buckets

 

Here's a poor picture

 ">

 

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http://conewriversubdivision.yolasite.com/

 

 

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Tuesday, May 27, 2014 6:41 AM

This is my Bachmann 0-6-0T:

You can see the coal bunker at the very rear of the engine, behind the cab.  Yes, it's very small, but these were not road engines.  They would be "captive" in a small area, which would have to have a small service facility so the coal and water could be serviced frequently.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Tuesday, May 27, 2014 5:22 AM

C&O Fan

Were these supposed to be models of oil burners since they had no tenders for coal ?

 

If so was one tank for water and the other for oil ?

 

TIA

 

The tanks on the side was for water..There was either a coal,wood or oil bunker behind the cab.

Of course there was the fireless 0-6-0Ts that used stored steam in their side tanks.The tanks was filled from a steam pipe outside a boiler house.The" fireman" would connect the steam hose to one tank and then turn on a vavle and steam was forced into the tanks.

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Bachman 0-6-0 tank Loco Question
Posted by C&O Fan on Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:36 AM

Were these supposed to be models of oil burners since they had no tenders for coal ?

 

If so was one tank for water and the other for oil ?

 

TIA

TerryinTexas

See my Web Site Here

http://conewriversubdivision.yolasite.com/

 

 

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