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Posted by "JaBear" on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:11 AM

Evening All, Just my usual banana milkshake please.

jeffrey-wimberly

................The extended forecast (next couple of weeks) shows rain with periods of something called sunshine. Anyone know what that is?

We're actually getting a fair bit of it at the present time and as there is a total fire ban and the fire risk is extreme could really do with some rain. The average rainfall here for January and February is 6.9 inches , we have  had less than half an inch. Am quite sure that with the battering the Aussies have been getting lately, they wouldn't mind sharing some of the rain with us.

Gary & Jake. Planes and trains, what's not to like. Big Smile . It doesn't hurt to have a variety of interests. My favourite aeroplane to work on is the Douglas DC3.

Cederstrand Rob. Your link actually lead to the photo of the roast cooking on that very handy stove, the smell was good even here. Wink

Ulrich. Hats off to your and your good ladies  patience in what is a very trying time, I hope that the light at the end of the tunnel is not a train coming the other way!

Have just finished a pencil sketch that I am going to give a young friend as a personal wedding present  this Saturday. His farther was killed in a road accident several years ago, ( to good a pilot to be killed in an aircraft)  and I have been asked to speak for his Dad and so wanted  to give him something special. It is of his Dads  first dung duster depicted  in the King Country 30 years ago. Now a days with digital cameras and cell phones with cameras in them, I think  we take for granted the amount of photos taken on various subjects,  apart from a few grainy "Instamatic" shots and some "static" photos there's not much record of back then.


Currently 2206, 57 F, high this afternoon was 77 F,  76% humidity. 

Thoughts and Best Wishes to All those who need them.

Cheers, the Bear.

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Posted by galaxy on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:22 AM

Good read on the history of a sugar plantaion {without the trains}:

http://www.yourislandroutes.com/articles/sugarplantoahu.shtml

http://archives.starbulletin.com/2003/09/28/special/story4.html

 

One more for those wondering if I'm all Hawaii railway'd out:

Class Details by Steve Llanso

Class Pu'uloa (Locobase 12563)

Data from Baldwin Locomotive Works Specification for Engines, 1903, as digitized by the DeGolyer Library of Southern Methodist University Vol 24, p.96. Works number was 19741 in November 1901. See the  P. Christiaan Klieger's Na Maka o Halawa - A History of Halawa, Ahupua'a , O'ahu (Honolulu: Bishop Museum Press, 1995), which includes information on Honolulu Plantation at http://www.bishopmuseum.org/research/cultstud/pdfs/NHV/Na%20Maka%20O%20Halawa.pdf

This sugar-cane saddle tanker was one of many purchased by W G Irwin on behalf of Hawaiian agricultural companies. The Honolulu Plantation holdings were on Oahu near Pearl Harbor. Pu'uloa originally was named Aiea, but the name lettered on the tank was Pu'uloa. 

The railroad that began operation in 1901 (see p. 83 of the Bishop study) used the Pu'uloa as its only engine. The locomotive was kept busy as the rolling stock included 500 cane cars. Later based at the mill at 'Aiea, the Pu'uloa was sold in 1925 to the O'ahu Sugar Company, which operated in the same area of O'ahu.

Enthusiast Hal Wilmunder bought the Pu'ulao in 1964 and moved it to Camino, Calif. In 1974, the Hawaiian Railway Society bought the engine, returned it to Hawaii, where it went on display in Ewa (on O'ahu).

Specifications by Steve Llanso
ClassPu'uloa
Locobase ID 12563
Railroad Honolulu Plantation Company
Whyte 0-6-2ST
Road Numbers 4
Gauge 3'
Builder Burnham, Williams & Co
Year 1901
Valve Gear Stephenson
Locomotive Length and Weight
Driver Wheelbase 7'
Engine Wheelbase 13.25'
Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheebase 0.53
Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) 13.25'
Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle)
Weight on Drivers 48000 lbs
Engine Weight 54000 lbs
Tender Light Weight
Total Engine and Tender Weight 54000 lbs
Tender Water Capacity 750 gals
Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal)
Minimum weight of rail (calculated) on which locomotive could run 27 lb/yard
Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort
Driver Diameter 33"
Boiler Pressure 175 psi
Cylinders (dia x stroke) 12" x 16"
Tractive Effort 10385 lbs
Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) 4.62
Heating Ability
Firebox Area 42.10 sq. ft
Grate Area 8.80 sq. ft
Evaporative Heating Surface 545 sq. ft
Superheating Surface
Combined Heating Surface 545 sq. ft
Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume 260.22
Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information)
Robert LeMassena's Power Computation 1540
Same as above plus superheater percentage 1540
Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area 7368
Power L1 3472
Power MT 478.40

Credits

Introduction and roster provided by Richard Duley. Class details and specifications provided by Steve Llansoof Sweat House Media.

 

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Posted by Packer on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:09 AM

Morning guys

Been working on a GP7, and figured out how to do the steps GN had originally put on their GP7-20s (and later BN did to the GPs of the Q, SP&S, and NP).

Some modifications to the inside of the step well were needed to support the inboard bracket. The pilot had to be modified to support the other bracket. The modifcations were done with scrap pieces of styrene. 2 pieces of .03 square rod glued together make up the pilot piece, and 2 scrap pieces of .02 sheet were glued back to back to makethe inboard supports for the brackets. Later release P2K geeps will need pilot modifications.

1 down, 3 more for this GP7. Then comes the other 14 or so locos and at about 5 bucks a loco for etched steps (and I screwed some up), this could get pricy....

Last night I got a dremel from a club member for $50. Brand new, but I realized after I agreed to buy it that it's the battery version. Oops....

Vincent

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2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.

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Posted by TMarsh on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:40 AM

Good Morning!!!

Coffee and the pineapple chicken salad please. Thank you.

You know, they say the average human walks about 900 miles a year and they consume about 22 gallons of beer… a year. Now I’m not sure how this equates for those who do not drink beer, but statistically, we get about 41 miles per gallon which I don’t think is all that bad considering.

Welp, didn’t get no 3 or 4 inches…..maaaybe two. Pretty much streets clear  and it’s misting snow right now. Glad I didn’t go to the trouble of getting the snowblower out. Todays forecast reads as follows; Occasional snow showers. High near 35.  Chance of precipitation is 90%. Total daytime snow accumulation of less than one inch possible.

Ken- Sounds to me like ole Tyler is in a bit over his head. Stressing out as they say.

Ulrich- I hope this w**ks for you and for your Parents. It will be easier and less expensive to get there too. I hope this place is nicer, some can appear nice until you are there. Either way, you have no choice. It has to be this way. I know what you mean about no time for the hobby. Many say just relax and spend some time in a hobby. Well that's easier said than done. Just doesn’t happen when you are “it”. Luckily this forum helped with keeping me into the hobby. Just that bit in the morning where I could take just a few minutes and get away from all the hubbub. It’s also helping me get back down there to Toddland (where I am king) from time to time. If it weren’t for this place, I probably would have just said "forget it (like so many other things I want to do) let’s face it I’ve no time". I still have things that keep me from w**king on the layout and also, I admit, just shear habit not to. If that makes any sense.

I need to better manage my time I suppose. I do have most everything done now that I’ve had to put off for those last years with Mom, but I do have some inside projects left that I haven’t started. I need to do these things like a job. W**k on them from like 8 to 5, then relax of an evening with choo choo time ever so often. Brilliant!! Yes, that’s what I’ll do from now on!

Yah, right. Anyway, time for a shower then Ziva.

Ya’ll have a good day, ya hear!!!!

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Posted by Lehigh Valley 2089 on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:03 AM

Good morning.

Got bottom section of the front of the P-38 glued on. 2 hour delay today because of the weather, had some time to do some work on it.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:04 AM

Good morning. It's 41° with 94% humidity. Mostly cloudy now clearing to partly cloudy later. The high will be 65°.


Today I'm working on the FP7's. The work is easy but a bit time consuming. I'm cutting factory coupler mount off the rear of the shell and removing a predetermined amount of plastic along with it. I'm then mounting a Kadee #242 draft gear box with a #148 coupler in that location. I've already done two this morning. That leaves two more yet to be done. Below are before and after photos from the same loco. The top one is before the conversion, the bottom one obviously is after.





The only tricky part is cutting the right amount off the Kadee coupler box so it clears the rear truck. A self tapping screw is then used to hold the box and coupler in place. And yes, I know Kadee calls for a #34 coupler for the rear of the Atlas/Roco FP7 but doesn't tell you how to get rid of the flop. I'm putting a center shank coupler at the proper height and doing away with the flop.

The only other plans for today are to clean up the layout a bit more.



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Posted by Cederstrand on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 9:06 AM

Extra strong coffee in a UNION PACIFIC mug, please.

Have a good day all.

Cheers! Cowboy Rob

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 9:26 AM

Good Afternoon Gang!

I am feeling quite miserable - fighting a headache. The move of my parents has been arranged - on March 7th, we will go up north, pack up their gear, wait for the special taxi to take them down south. It´s a 100 mile trip, certainly not going to be that comfortable for them, as my Dad has to be transported in his wheelchair. There is no way he could get in and out of a normal car. We will drive up north tomorrow to pack up a few things from their house and take it back to our place, just to have it handy when my parents move. Lots of administrative work ahead of us, but that´s quite OK. My parents prove to be a big PITA the last two days. They ring us up a minimum of ten times a day. I am fine helping them, but I am not their babysitter - period. Starting to get mad at them...

Well, rant´s over - have a good one!

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Posted by galaxy on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 9:28 AM

OK RAY- Today I did my grocery shopping and will spenfd the afternoon doing laundry!!! Did the pharmacy yesterday. should/could do some banking but not urgent! Today i get my check {4th wednesday of the month and so i can pay some bills. Will do one tomorrow and visit the parental unit.too.

MOH has to go relieve the FIL so FIL can take their cat to the vet. Our cat needs his shots again, needs to be shaved {long hair getting in knots, and he WON'T let you comb them out anymore either} but won't let you touch, pickup or hold him -at 15 he is a cranky old codger!!!

Maybe while laundry is going I can get the table top trains put away,,,,they need a good dusting first.Then MOH will have no complaints about them! I need to get that done as MOH { who DOES have respect for trains} tends to use the table top layout as a catch-all for everything!

We have been perusing SAvannah Georgia as a possbile place to retire to..Hawaii is where we'd LIKE to go,but need the $$$ to do that. Savannah appears cheaper, of course it could disappear into the water if the oceans rise!!! We don't like FLorida and it is too overcrowded there anyway. My parents have a property in florida I may inherit it too, but we don't like the area. It is a rental unit investment to them. Savannah seems nice enough. Dunno, maybe check out Atlanta too, it won't sink! Instead of buying a property here, we may just {when we are able to} buy down there instead,rent out until the parents pass, then move there.  prices not bad right now, either.

Well, off to take a nap and rest my achin' back!

OH< if I disappear for awhile it is because AOL says we we money...that the billing method is no longer valid, so we may lose AOL for awhile, and I hate accessing through other methods!

later

Geeked

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Posted by kbkchooch on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 9:50 AM

Hewwo gang,

Started wif a sniffle yesterday, today it's a full blown code!Ick! I'm not doin nuffin today cept watchin the last day ob my fleabay auctions.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/kbkchooch/m.html?item=170994408097&ssPageName=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562  in  case ya need sumfin!Wink

Gary & Jake. Other interests are fine with us.  I've got a 25 year old truck, 58 year old tractor and a 46 year old lawn mower that are also "toys". 

Ulrich. Hang in there, dont let em put you on the funny farmConfused

Gotta go find a nudder box o Kleenex,,Cya all later!

Ooooops, top of da page! Flo, got any dishes need washin? Wink

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:09 AM

The coupler conversions on all the FP7's are done. The front and rear couplers (all center shank Kadee's) are spot-on with the Kadee coupler height gauge. Now I can relax for a while.

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Posted by Burlington Northern #24 on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:51 AM

I think Karl got me sick! I have a sore throat and slightly runny nose, germs can pass through the  world wide web!

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Posted by howmus on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:14 PM

Mornin'.....  Ah....  hmmmm. Appears to be afternoon already, and since I already had my old Phart cereal a few hours back, I guess another refill of the dark roast Kona coffee would suit me for the moment, Zoe.

Gary, I don't know about germs, but viruses sure can.....

i was just getting ready to check out the forum when the phone rang this morning.  My son wanted me to watch granddaughter #2 while he ran some errands in Geneva.  I never mind playing with the granddaughters, so i told him to bring her over.  Then i got to looking at the foot and a half pile of snow at the end of the driveway and figured i might better start the gas burner and blow the heavy wet stuff out of the way.  Amazingly the old girl fired up on the 5th. or 6th. pull (usually have to pull the spark plug and hit it with starting fluid) and I cleaned off the pile on the deck most of which was from stuff that slid off the metal roof and the solar panels.  I used to have a long ramp for moving sound equipment from the spare bedroom in the house out to the trailer when needed.  That got recycled last summer, so I have been using the much shorter ramps left from when i sold the trailer to be able to get the snowblower on and off the deck.  I should have been smarter tghis morning and as I went down the ramp I slipped on the ice and landed rather hard on my rear end.  Lucky nothing appears to be broken, but I will have some very sore muscles for a while.  Major backache at the moment!  Did get the driveway cleared right before my son arrived.  Spent a few more minutes pulling the white stuff off the solar panels so they could get back to w*rk.

I have several projects needing to get done today, and unfortunately most do not include playing with trains...

Catch you all later!

73

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Posted by Rastafarr on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:34 PM

Morning all. 

Sun's shining, wife's happy, dog isn't on fire, looks to be a good day in the making! Got another twelve feet of track laid in the Racetrack this morning. Not bad for an hour's work. 

Stu

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Posted by kbkchooch on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 1:09 PM

I think Karl got me sick! I have a sore throat and slightly runny nose, germs can pass through the  world wide web!

I think we both got it from typhoid Barry!Stick out tongue

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Posted by Lehigh Valley 2089 on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 1:48 PM

kbkchooch

I think Karl got me sick! I have a sore throat and slightly runny nose, germs can pass through the  world wide web!

I think we both got it from typhoid Barry!Stick out tongue

With ya there. Been congested and have a slight headache right now.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 2:08 PM

Lehigh Valley 2089

kbkchooch

I think Karl got me sick! I have a sore throat and slightly runny nose, germs can pass through the  world wide web!

I think we both got it from typhoid Barry!Stick out tongue

With ya there. Been congested and have a slight headache right now.

Probably explains this headache I've had all day.

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Posted by Burlington Northern #24 on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:03 PM

jeffrey-wimberly

Lehigh Valley 2089

kbkchooch

I think Karl got me sick! I have a sore throat and slightly runny nose, germs can pass through the  world wide web!

I think we both got it from typhoid Barry!Stick out tongue

With ya there. Been congested and have a slight headache right now.

Probably explains this headache I've had all day.

It's ok I bought some Ricola cough drops. Laugh I think that'll help with your headache.

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Posted by chochowillie on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:38 PM

jeffrey-wimberly
Probably explains this headache I've had all day.

Na Jeffrey, couldn't be from that, it's from all the head scratching and thinking you've been doing on how to rig those couplers up to the F7's. Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by Burlington Northern #24 on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:40 PM

chochowillie

jeffrey-wimberly
Probably explains this headache I've had all day.

Na Jeffrey, couldn't be from that, it's from all the head scratching and thinking you've been doing on how to rig those couplers up to the F7's. Smile, Wink & Grin

Dennis

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:57 PM

chochowillie
Na Jeffrey, couldn't be from that, it's from all the head scratching and thinking you've been doing on how to rig those couplers up to the F7's. Smile, Wink & Grin

Couldn't be. That was light thinking. Like reading stereo instructions - in Cherokee.Laugh

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 4:00 PM

Hello .... 

No layout progress today. getting ready to travel. Will be in Detroit and Cincinnati next few days. 

Cheers, everybody! 

GARRY

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 4:06 PM

Heartland Division CB&Q
No layout progress today. getting ready to travel. Will be in Detroit and Cincinnati next few days. 

Have a good trip.

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 4:07 PM

Jeff .... Thanks very much.  

I forgot to say the pair of bald eagles was here today. Impressive birds. 

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 4:12 PM

Heartland Division CB&Q
I forgot to say the pair of bald eagles was here today. Impressive birds. 

You're telling me. We have a couple pairs of them down this way. I love the way they catch fish!

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Posted by chochowillie on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 4:14 PM

Ok, I'm having a heck of a time removing soldering flux from my rails where I soldered joints, feeders etc. Can't seem to get the stick stuff off. What should I be using oh ye persons with all powerful knowledge?

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 4:28 PM

chochowillie

Ok, I'm having a heck of a time removing soldering flux from my rails where I soldered joints, feeders etc. Can't seem to get the stick stuff off. What should I be using oh ye persons with all powerful knowledge?

Dennis

And it needs to go away why? You should be able to rub it off of the top and inside of the running rail with a cloth. Will paint stick to it? No, probably not, but then to you really want a uniform paint job? Rails need to look like they belong on a railroad, warts, stains and all.

A problem to electrical pick up can be addressed if not by a cloth then by a pumice stone or track cleaner of that sort of ilk.

Or you can just run trains with 48 wheel power pick up. Laugh

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 4:36 PM

chochowillie
Ok, I'm having a heck of a time removing soldering flux from my rails where I soldered joints, feeders etc. Can't seem to get the stick stuff off. What should I be using oh ye persons with all powerful knowledge?

If you have solder stuck to the top of the rail just heat it and wipe it off with a cloth as Lion said. Don't fret much about a thin layer staying on. I have that in a couple of places on my layout and they don't bother the trains any. It just sounds like they're running over a crossing.

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Posted by chochowillie on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:12 PM

jeffrey-wimberly
If you have solder stuck to the top of the rail just heat it and wipe it off with a cloth as Lion said.

No, solder stuck to the rail head isn't the problem. It's the sticky residue left over from the flux. I'll see what 90% alcohol does.

Dennis

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  • From: Shalimar. Florida
  • 2,622 posts
Posted by Packer on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:14 PM

Evening guys

Took the dogs to the vet, no issues with them. Except for the bill... $137 bucks, but my folks are going to pay me back.

Train vs. Car dilema: My father found a set of TFS head on sale for $745 shipped, only needs 3 rocker arms. The numbers put them on par with my father's modfied edelbrocks, and they haven't been ported. The downside is they are iron. I'm debating wheter to get those or some more train cars. My engine with explorer heads is already going to be around 320-350 rwhp and 380-410 torque. Those TFS heads could add anywhere from 30 to 70 horses...

Ken, Got the kato motor installed in the P1K F3 that had a bum motor. Found one issue though, the kato motor is slightly longer than the P1K's original. So with the end plates for the motor, it fits snug. Which is good cause I'm out of foam tape and can't find the other rubber mount. I tested it with a 9 volt and it runs pretty good off of it.

 

Vincent

Wants: 1. high-quality, sound equipped, SD40-2s, C636s, C30-7s, and F-units in BN. As for ones that don't cost an arm and a leg, that's out of the question....

2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.

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