Morning Coffee in the Diner with friends...
GOOD MORNING!!!
Today is Monday, January 21st, 2013
Today IN the USA is Martin Luther King, Jr. Day, the African American {called black or negro in his time of life} who sparked a major civil rights movement.
Some people are living "high on the hog", So;
Meaning:
Affluent and luxurious
Origin:
The source of this phrase is often said to be the fact that the best cuts of meat on a pig come from the back and upper leg and that the wealthy ate cuts from 'high on the hog', while the paupers ate belly pork and trotters. The imagery of lords and ladies feasting on fine meats,done to a turn, at Olde Englyshe banquets is easy to bring to mind and this seems to be the right context for the phrase to have been coined in. However, as far as the source of this expression goes, our imagination needs to leap forward a few centuries.
None of the variants of the phrase 'living (or eating) high on (or off) the hog' is to be found in any of the works of Chaucer, Shakespeare or the like. In fact, they aren't found in print in any form until the 20th century, and then in the USA rather than England.
'High' has been in used in the UK with the meaning 'impressive; superlative; exalted' since the 17th century and in the USA since the early 19th century; for example, this from Samuel Pepys Diary or, as he liked to call it, Samuel Pepys' Memoirs - Comprising his Diary, in the entry for 29th July 1667:
"Where it seems people do drink high."
The word alluded to people's status and is the source of the terms 'high-life' (18th century), 'high-table' (15th century) and even 'high-heaven' (9th century).
The idea that 'living high on the hog' initially meant 'living the high life' and eating pork, rather than literally 'eating meat from high on the pig', seems plausible but is dealt a blow by the following citation. This is the earliest printed form of the phrase that I have come across - from the New York Times, March 1920:
Southern laborers who are "eating too high up on the hog" (pork chops and ham) and American housewives who "eat too far back on the beef" (porterhouse and round steak) are to blame for the continued high cost of living, the American Institute of Meat Packers announced today.
'High off the hog' has a similar pedigree, i.e. mid 20th century USA; for example, the San Francisco paper the Call-Bulletin, May 1946:
I have to do my shopping in the black market because we can't eat as high off the hog as Roosevelt and Ickes and Joe Davis and all those millionaire friends of the common man.
An alternative suggestion, also originating in America, is that piglets who get suckled from the top row of teats of the prone mother sow tend to fare better. There are various explanations as to why the top row is considered more advantageous - either that the teats are easier to access there and so the 'top' piglets get more milk, or that the top row of teats express milk more easily. Either way, it seems that this explanation is what etymologists call a 'back-formation', i.e. it is a plausible story that is back fitted to provide a supposed derivation of an existing phrase. The explanation is only found in the late 20th century and, as it post-dates the phrase, appears to be spurious.
There is also a phrase of Irish descent -'on the pig's back. The imagery there is with happy children riding on pigs and generally having a good time. The phrase certainly predates the American 'cuts from high on the pig' meaning, but the connection with 'high on the hog' may be no more than coincidental. The expression took many years to travel outside Ireland and the Irish expatriate communities in Australia/New Zealand, and it is quite reasonable to accept that the two phrases developed independently.
Why, when people had eaten pork for millennia, did the phrase not originate before the 20th century, is a difficult question to answer. Nevertheless, 'high on the hog' appears to have been derived, in the USA, as a reference to the cuts of meat on pigs. The question of why the clunky idiom 'eating too far back on the beef' didn't quite catch on with the public is a little easier to resolve.
There are several prayer cadles lit: One for general health and well-being, one for those here who have issues, and one for Jeffrey's Mother, may she rest in peace.
Make it a GREAT DAY!!!
-G .
Just my thoughts, ideas, opinions and experiences. Others may vary.
HO and N Scale.
After long and careful thought, they have convinced me. I have come to the conclusion that they are right. The aliens did it.
Jeffrey-
I just found out this morning about your mother {I wasn't on last night after it happened} . My deepest condolences and I have lit a prayer candle just for her. I can empathize with you as we had to make the choice to take my mother off life support, which they automatically put her on at the hospital when she was revived there. We kept her on it long enough for her family to come from the midwest to say thier goodbyes. It was a fairly easy decision, as she had no brain activity then, and her passing was a blessing in disguise, as she sufffered for 30 years battling a nasty disease, that left her a quadruplegic, nearly blind and unable to effectively communicate..
You are now in a different stage of your life, as happens when a parent passes..It brings us closer to our own mortality and gives us pause for reflection.
I hope you will relaize your mother's passing was also a blessing, as she struggled towards the end.
Again, My and MOH's deepest condolences.
JimRCGMO JaBear - for my clarification and education, did you mean by 'Northern Diners': A) Diners in the Northern hemisphere (as opposed to where you and - currently - J.R. are? B) Diners North of the USA-Canada border (e.g., Barry, Johnboy and others)? C) Diners North of the USA-Mexican border? or D) Diners who model the Burlington Northern, Great Northern, or BNSF? (Inquiring minds and all that...) (yeah, I know, nobody likes a smart... aleck!)
JaBear - for my clarification and education, did you mean by 'Northern Diners':
A) Diners in the Northern hemisphere (as opposed to where you and - currently - J.R. are?
B) Diners North of the USA-Canada border (e.g., Barry, Johnboy and others)?
C) Diners North of the USA-Mexican border? or
D) Diners who model the Burlington Northern, Great Northern, or BNSF?
(Inquiring minds and all that...) (yeah, I know, nobody likes a smart... aleck!)
Gidday Jim, In actual fact anyone north of 38.2* S is north of me, but as it was getting late Sunday night for me; "A) Diners in the Northern hemisphere (as opposed to where you and - currently - J.R. are?", was along the lines of what I was thinking, though in reality its a time zone issue, perhaps I should have wished all the diners east of me a great Sunday.
Right now, for instance, I see that it currently 0352 hours at Cape Giardeau MO Monday, whereas its 2252 hours Monday here, so have a Great Monday!!!
Currently 62 F, 90% humidity, was 83 in the yard today,and not much of a breeze.
Thoughts and Best Wishes to All that need them.
Cheers, the Bear.
Top of the page, the drinks and eats are on me.
"One difference between pessimists and optimists is that while pessimists are more often right, optimists have far more fun."
- Jeff Sorry to hear that about your mother, but hopefully shes in a better place. and i hate to ask... but just saw your picture of your switcher, howd you get the handrails like that?
TMarsh Garrett- Sounds to me like the radius of the track and the cork aren’t the same. Generally speaking, I think if you want good even radius the easiest, I’d say sectional as long as you are careful to keep the track ends square to each other. Barring any manufacturing flaws of course. Now if you want to match any slight errors in the road bed radius or need an actual radius of some measure that is unavailable as most of us generally end up needing at some point to make something mate up, then flex is the way to go. Not knocking sectional because for everybody who complains about some issue with it, two will step up and say they have no issues. But downside is, with flextrack you have to be careful you don’t loose the radius along the curve. Personally, I use flex track for it’s lack of joiners and it’s…., well, flexability to compensate for those little off here and there’s. So I guess I’s saying, in your case as I understand it, I’d get flex track so you can match your roadbed and still match the rest of the track.
Garrett- Sounds to me like the radius of the track and the cork aren’t the same. Generally speaking, I think if you want good even radius the easiest, I’d say sectional as long as you are careful to keep the track ends square to each other. Barring any manufacturing flaws of course. Now if you want to match any slight errors in the road bed radius or need an actual radius of some measure that is unavailable as most of us generally end up needing at some point to make something mate up, then flex is the way to go. Not knocking sectional because for everybody who complains about some issue with it, two will step up and say they have no issues. But downside is, with flextrack you have to be careful you don’t loose the radius along the curve. Personally, I use flex track for it’s lack of joiners and it’s…., well, flexability to compensate for those little off here and there’s. So I guess I’s saying, in your case as I understand it, I’d get flex track so you can match your roadbed and still match the rest of the track.
Thanks for the info!
So i went down to my N-S-LHS and picked up some Atlas code 83 flex-track they had a TON of it... so i grabbed a couple and asked them to hold 20 more pieces for when i come back and pay off my AZL F59PHi set... (yes i have Z scale too im a train nut. as i type ive got a Japanese Series 485 express zooming around) Anyways ive laid the flex-track, and started snipping off the ugly D ties on my sectional track and turnouts... which btw im converting most to #6's just because i have a MTH Big Boy on preorder... to lay my track i used Liquid Nails Caulk thats safe for plastic and cork. On most of my curves i did not have to hold the track down with pins or track nails, the caulk held the track in its predetermined curve. i did however set my locomotives down on the track while the caulk set up, as i did this i rewired my entire layout with 18 gauge wire with 20 to 24 gauge wire as feeders... so my MRC Prodigy Advance shouldnt have any problems.
Now my next question is where can i find a Blue Box Athearn SD40 (-2 is fine also) with a 81" short hood hopefully undecorated.. for cheap? ive looked on ebay a few of the ones i saw were snoots or had the 88" nose... these BB units are impossible to find... if your curious, i am trying to reproduce AWVR 1206 from Unstoppable.... idk why i just think it will be a challenging side job... -Garrett
Army National Guard E3MOS 91BI have multiple scales nowZ, N, HO, O, and G.
Good Morning! from Tipton IN.
Monday, January 21, 2013
TIPTON
Condolences to Jeff and his family for their loss.
Bill Tidler Jr.
Near a cornfield in Indiana...
Jeffery. To you and your family my deepest sympathy.
Craig the Bear.
Jeff,
I've just read the news. You and your family have my deepest sympathy. Our prayers for you. J.R.
Jeff - Petra´s and my sincere condolences on the passing of your Mom. We will be heading to our church to light up a candle for her.
You and your family are in our prayers.
I will be heading towards my parents´ place today. My father´s condition has become very serious.
Jeff and Family,
Please accept my Wife's and my sincere condolences on your Mothers passing.
These are very sad times for those of us left behind but reflect on the joy that she will be having being reunited with former friends and family members who passed on previously.
Her pain is over, but her joy will be full.
Johnboy out...............................
from Saskatchewan, in the Great White North..
We have met the enemy, and he is us............ (Pogo)
Jeff ..... Just saw the news.... Prayers for you, your Dad, and the rest of your family. ..... I'm in Nashville and I'm only on the computer for a few mintes. .... Contact any of us Diners if you need anything. We all care.
GARRY
HEARTLAND DIVISION, CB&Q RR
EVERYWHERE LOST; WE HUSTLE OUR CABOOSE FOR YOU
Jeffrey, you have our deepest and most heartfelt sympathies on the loss of your Mom. Take all the time you need, if you need us, just holler!
Karl
NCE über alles!
Jeffrey I am so sorry...You and Your Family are in my Prayers...Jerry
***Jeffrey, sincere condolences to you and your family. The one blessing is she did not suffer. Take care and be good to yourself.
Rob
Jeffery: Condolences to your family from ours...Barry and Audrey
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Jeffrey, so sorry to hear about your mother passing. My condolences, and at least you know she didn't have to suffer long (as you mentioned her preferences). for all of your family.
Jim in Cape G.
Packer Well I did a bit more work on trains today. I managed to get the GP7 I bought yesterday and the SSW caboose stripped down. I'm going to let them soak until tomorrow afternoon to hit any remainders off. Jeff, Sorry to hear and my deep sympathies, but she's in a better place now. BN 24, isn't that the ATSF caboose painted in NP? Ironically the ATSF caboose is actually correct for BN, but they were either ex-C&S and/or ex-SLSF.
Well I did a bit more work on trains today. I managed to get the GP7 I bought yesterday and the SSW caboose stripped down. I'm going to let them soak until tomorrow afternoon to hit any remainders off.
Jeff, Sorry to hear and my deep sympathies, but she's in a better place now.
BN 24, isn't that the ATSF caboose painted in NP? Ironically the ATSF caboose is actually correct for BN, but they were either ex-C&S and/or ex-SLSF.
No idea Packer, it's an NP caboose. but with atlas using the UP GP15 for their base '15 model, I'm not sure if I have anything that is to exact prototype standards except maybe my Daylight, and silver streak zephyr. I wonder if my MTL 34' wood sheathed could pass as a prototype BN caboose from frisco, shoot I bought that caboose just for my '15-1
I hope yo feel better soon, Jeff I'm sorry.
SP&S modeler, 1960's give or take a decade or two for some equipment.
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Gary DuPrey
N scale model railroader
Jeff- You and your family have my deepest condolences.
Curt Webb
The Late Great Pennsylvania Railroad
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Vincent
Wants: 1. high-quality, sound equipped, SD40-2s, C636s, C30-7s, and F-units in BN. As for ones that don't cost an arm and a leg, that's out of the question....
2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.
Jeffrey, my deepest condolences!!!
Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO
We'll get there sooner or later!
Jeff : I don't know what I can say. Take as much time as you need. We are all hear for you.
Well, it's over. My mother passed away about 7:45. I got the call just a few minutes ago (7:51).Calling it a night early. I really don't feel like talking with anyone tonight. I may be back on tomorrow.
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Jeff- I am sorry to hear the news about your Mom. I am saying prayers for your family.
Evenin' folks!
Janie, can I get a refill on the decaf please?
kbkchoochJim, Careful mate, Ray has a Prius!
LOL! And not just any old Prius, it is a PIP. Jim is right that the word comes from the Latin, but means “coming before”; also related to such English words as “prior” and “primary”. "According to Toyota, the name was chosen because the Prius was launched before environmental awareness became a mainstream social issue." (from Wikipedia)
So far I like mine! Yesterday I got some big grins from the younger crowd at the meet with it. Mostly when I was parking at the open house places in the afternoon. I have gotten into the habit of seeing just how many miles I can get out of a gallon of fossil crud... I have even gotten into the habit of flashing the peace sign to those gas guzzling SUVs and 4 x 4s that roar past me because I'm not accelerating from a stop in "Power" mode. Some of them give me half of it back as they go by. Sometimes we get to do this at several stop lights in a row where I can just keep going by them as they had to slam on their brakes to stop for the red... before roaring by me again! I'm more like the Railroads that will keep the train moving but not stopped when they have a red as the biggest waste of energy is starting the vehicle or train from a complete stop. Actually I have been using Hypermiling techniques for years. It is how I got an average of 38mpg and sometimes over 42mpg out of Yaris.
Jeffrey, I somehow missed your latest post about your Mother. I am keeping all of you in my prayers during this time!
73
Burlington Northern #24turned off adblock now Adblock plus is running but I'm still seeing ads, I'm using google chrome.
Ribeye steak, please.
***Jeffrey, so very sorry to hear about your mother's condition.
Couldn't get the wood splitter running this evening so could only bring in the top sections of the tree I cut up earlier. That should get me through tonight, then tomorrow I've got to get the splitter going.
Think I'll head down to the train room and work on cleaning up some under the shelves which are coming down soon.
Take care all.
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didn't do much train stuff today, except maybe work on my roundhouse, went swimming(I'm going to try and get thin and fit). weathered a tank car yesterday, and superdetailed My GP15-1. the caboose is an older project from a couple months ago when I added extra decals to this already great looking NP caboose.
Jeff: Sorry to hear about your mom, I can only imagine its a very tough time for the family right now.
Well just finished dinner and thought Id pop on here. I didn't build the freight cars I bought today. I will leave them for a few days. It will give me something to work on later. As I was saying earlier I enjoyed the train show today, first one I have been to in a few years now. I wish I stayed a little longer and got to look around more but the crowds were getting quite heavy and it was getting hard to move about. They only had a few layouts ( no HO scale ) running so not much model railfanning to be had. Well Im going to go back to watching to football game.
kbkchoochJeffrey, that old computer, did somebody take a bite (byte) out of your Apple??
Evening guys.
After work today, I got some work done on the MR front. I stuck the GP7 and the cotton belt caboose in alcohol; finished stripping some autos for autoracks and the two NE12s that had crazed paint. Finally, I finished up one of the MDC tank car kits. I have another I still have to add the support bars and brackets too one, I stiopped at one because the wire I have to bend broke... I have brass wire somewhere.
Jeff, Prayers for your mom
Antonio, I feel your pain, I've done grabs before. It took a while to find a set of drill bits that didn't break when looking at them wrong (that was after buying carbide ones, which were really bad about that) but I found some on amazon that are pretty sturdy (I drilled all the holes on 4-5 stewart F-units on the first bit before it broke):http://www.amazon.com/High-speed-Euro-Twist-Drills-Size/dp/B005O144YS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1358725456&sr=8-2&keywords=%2380+drill+bit+euro
IMO, adding the support bars to an MDC modern tank car kit is harder.
Ken, check PMs
Good afternoon, or is it evening?
Flo, please! I'm parched.
I got real lazy today kids, slept til 10 a.m., read the paper ate 2 bowls of Fruit Loops, then took a nap. . Finally took a showern then off to Wally World. I've been having some foot discomfort of lats, so I stepped on the Dr. Scholl's contraption. Well, after centering my stance, then standing on my left foot, then standing on my right , then back to 2 feet (kinda reminded me of the Hokey-pokey) it said I needed a #430 support.
Got a set, its an ouch and an ahhhh all in one. Ouch, cuz they a $50.00 a pair. Aaahh, cuz they feel so good!
Then stopped by a buddies house. He has the same NCE system as mine, with JMRI set up too. he then proceeded to show me how to use my smartphone for a throttle......too cool! Gonna have to play with that here! He has an On30 layout under construction, with so many oddball engines, I'm almost tempted to switch scales!
Back home now, waiting for the RAVENS game to start. Wanting to see Heloti Ngata touch Tom Brady in that special way that only a 340 pound football player can at close to 20 mph!
Jeffrey, Prayers for your Mom, and that old computer, did somebody take a bite (byte) out of your Apple??
Antonio, We're all getting older! I thing I've learned. I should have invested in micro tools in my youth.
Curt, Put down the tools, back away from the oven and nobody gets hurt!
Galaxy prayers for your struggles too, but maybe this will help take your mind off it. Can you research that "two hoots and a holler" thing that Jeffrey brought up? I've heard it for years, but never quite got the point of it!
Jim, Careful mate, Ray has a Prius!
Catch y'all later!