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Posted by TMarsh on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 6:54 AM

Good Morning!! Coffee and an omelet please. Thanks.

Partly sunny, with a high near 70

Wellllp, today’s the day. 1000 local I sign the house over to the new owners. Or should I say buyers.

Ray- I remember as a kid when we would go to dances or wedding receptions they would always play a Polka or two. (guess which one they always played..) Of course that was back before CD’s and DJ’s. When bands were about the only way get music out there short of bringing your stereo and all your records.

What’s that kids? What are records? Oh never mind.

Garry- Congratulations on the good news.

Didn’t they extend DST under Bush Jr? Funny story about that, Brenda woke up Monday morning and came storming in the office (actually the bedroom with the computer I use as an office of sorts. Sounds good anyway) here staring at the clock on the computer screen. She said something about the time. It was 0700. She grumbled about over sleeping. And how I changed the clock or messed it up or something like that. Turns out the clock had automatically fallen back an hour apparently Saturday night and we never noticed it. Saturdays and Sundays are not a get up by a certain time so the alarm is not set. Funny the things you don’t notice. Good news was, that as it turns out I didn’t wake up at 0400 after all!Laugh

I though DST was created to allow additional hours of light after w**k a long time ago. I didn’t think it had anything to do with energy savings. Hm, learn something new every dayYes.

Welp, best gather up the stuff I’ll need and get shaved for the closing. Don’t want to be late. Better leave about 0900 and it’ll take about a half hour to get there through downtown can’t get there from here because of the oneway roads have to drive 26 blocks to get around the corner no parking for 83 blocks with 20 minute parking meters that run out before you can even run to where you need to be let alone do anything before you get a parking ticket Hades known as Springfield, Illinoyz! Love it.

Hey, what’s this stuff in my omelet? It looks like seaweed and bean sprouts….. Oh, I forgot. California. Coffee tastes funny too.

 

Ya’ll have a Great Day!!!

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Posted by LSWrr on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 7:32 AM

Good Morning All,

 

Ulrich, Thanks for the great tour of Germany last month!  Someone has a lot of work to do to replicate your efforts this month.

 

November 6, 2011 at 0200hrs clocks get turned back 1 hour, unless you live on Coordinated Universal Time (Zulu) at work like me and the clock never changes.

 

"In the early 19th century … localities set their own time," Mosley said. "It was kind of a crazy quilt of time, time zones, and time usage. When the railroads came in, that necessitated more standardization of time so that railroad schedules could be published."

In 1883 the U.S. railroad industry established official time zones with a set standard time within each zone. Congress eventually came on board, signing the railroad time zone system into law in 1918

 Before 1883 I was told people used “Gods Time”.  When the sun rose in the morning you set your clock for 0600 and when the sun set you set your clock to 1800.

So now for our Amateur Radio Operators in the diner:  If you search the airwaves you will hear the Naval Observatory in Bolder, CO and Hawaii read the correct time every minute.  How can you tell which radio station you are listing to if they only provide station identification on the hour?

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Posted by gear-jammer on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 7:46 AM

Good morning, Chloe.  I will have my coffee in a NP mug, please.

A special thanks to Ulrich for last months tour of Germany.

Later,  Sue

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 8:12 AM

Got a new computer hooked up and running now...

Asus M5A99X With 6 core AMD CPU, 2 2Tb Seagate HDs (internal) plus one 4Tb unit externally, 16 Gb ram, Tower case, and 2 24" monitors.... all that fun stuff ...heeheehee. This is all for my music stuff......MischiefWhistling

 


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Posted by TMarsh on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 8:13 AM

Weeeeeell WHO'd a thunked it. Even a discussion of time has been made railroad related, therefore ON TOPIC! Thanks Lee. Very interesting too.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 8:33 AM

In Germany, we owe it to the railroads to have a standard time throughout the country. Up until the 1870´s, each town and each village had its own time, making it nearly impossible to come up with a meaningful (and legible) timetable for the railroads.

Little me thinks, that the contribution the railroads made to the development of mankind is still grossly underestimated Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 9:03 AM

I don't like changing the time twice a year. It ticks me off.

GARRY

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Posted by Cederstrand on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 9:20 AM

Strong coffee in a  SANTA FE  mug, please.

***C.N. Charlie, the miniature Zebu are considered a rare breed, strictly for pet trade. Some folks might milk them, but I don't know about that. Our first bull, Old Bill was a Foundation Sire. Little Bill, his son, grew larger than his daddy, but is also a pretty handsome bull in his own right. He seems sterile, as none of these cows have produced any offspring. Since finishing the front pasture fences, the big horses have not required any additional hay thus far and miniatures do not eat much. Eventually, that will change sometime this winter. Most critters have their own water sources here on the farm and since we no longer breed any critters, all the extra feed is no longer required. Still, it isn't exactly cheap, either. Next year I might sell the herd of cows.

Much to do today. Y'all have a good one.

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Posted by last mountain & eastern hogger on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 9:31 AM

Whistling

http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/simpletime.html

For all of you TIME Gurus, The link above is the one that is accurate all the TIME.

I even have it set up as an icon on my desktop for quick reference.

And by the way I can be a work in 10 to 15 mins, depending on how I hit the lights.  That I love..

Johnboy out.........................Before I leave I'll have the Brecky Special with a HC. I see that Barry is still curled up there in the corner booth..... Did  he spend the night here again ??   Zzz    I guess he did.

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Posted by galaxy on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 9:43 AM

TMarsh

Weeeeeell WHO'd a thunked it. Even a discussion of time has been made railroad related, therefore ON TOPIC! Thanks Lee. Very interesting too.

I thunked it.

You mean you never knew that the railroads helped to establish the time zones we have here in the USA?

Huh.

 I knew that a long time ago, in time past, some time ago, many's the time I thank the railroads for our standardized time zones..

Now Daylight savigns time is another matter of time past when it was introduced time after time it changes our clocks two times a year..

Well, they say you never stop learning at any time in your life, so this time you learned something new about time!

It's time for  me to go..

see you all some time later...

Geeked

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Posted by Cox 47 on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 10:29 AM

Good Morning...Its sunny and 50 here...I'll have coffee and a sweet roll please...Thank You..I'm not planning much..gonna take a nap..Sallie was up and down all nite preping for tests at hospital today..Please keep Her in your prayers...You all have a good one...Jerry

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Posted by cudaken on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 10:34 AM

 Morning Folks

 Flo, Coffee please.

 Ulrich OK, your day was harder as far as time to your self. Hours are taking a toll on me. Worst part is I am not sleeping good on the couch. Feel tired when I get up and have to drink coffee around 4:00 PM just to stay a wake.

 Lack Of Training again. No training to speak of again, going on 2 weeks and still don't know much about the tires we carry. Talked to my friend out in KC and Steve said "that sounds about right" as far as lack of training? You pretty much need to train your self.

 Well, I will talk at you all later, going to fire up the trains.

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Posted by howmus on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 10:46 AM

Mornin' everyone!

Anyone have the correct time?  Oh railroad does... I forgot!  I'll have a breakfast bagel with cheese and a cup of dark roast coffee in a FGLK Mug, please and thank you!

Yep, one of the things we discuss when giving tours of the depot at the R&GV RR Museum is the ancient old RR clock on the wall.  It still keeps time better than most electronic stuff today.  Has to be adjusted about one minute every year I think......  Here in Geneva before RRs one of the factories used to blow it's whistle soon after sunup which signaled the time to get yourself to wo&k.  At noon (when the sun was at the highest point) it blew for lunch hour so the wife knew her husband would be home to gulp down food and get back to the factory.  Then they blew the whistle again to signal when quitting time was.  The railroads created "Standard Time".  One little fact we usually include is that Congress debated it for 60 years before adopting it as law..... (some things never change.....Whistling)

As far as Daylight Savings?  I just get up when I feel like it and go to bed when I want to.  Doesn't matter a bit what the clocks say most of the time....  Retirement is great! Big Smile

Railroads contributed a lot of things to our culture including several hundred phrases like "Being on track", "Hit the ground running", "Letting off steam", "Being sidetracked", and "Living on the wrong side of the tracks".

Have a great day!

73

Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 10:59 AM

I'm not feeling up to par today so I won't be doing much. Haven't gotten much sleep the past couple of days so I'm feeling really tired.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 1:29 PM

jeffrey-wimberly

I'm not feeling up to par today so I won't be doing much. Haven't gotten much sleep the past couple of days so I'm feeling really tired.

Same here - sleep has become very precious for me. I can count the nights I got more than 4 hours of sleep in the last years using one hand. Still hoping for this to improve...

Take care, brother o´mine!

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Posted by galaxy on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 1:55 PM

Sir Madog

 jeffrey-wimberly:

I'm not feeling up to par today so I won't be doing much. Haven't gotten much sleep the past couple of days so I'm feeling really tired.

 

Same here - sleep has become very precious for me. I can count the nights I got more than 4 hours of sleep in the last years using one hand. Still hoping for this to improve...

Take care, brother o´mine!

I take a medication that has the side effect of impending sleep. So I gemerally get some sleep. But it can wear off, and that doesn't mean I don't get up about 2 times a night to watch some TV until tired enough to go back to sleep...

I do have another prescription sleep aid I can take periodically but if I have to get up then I don't like to take it cuz it makes me extra tired.

I know Ulrich has had some problems with his sleep pattern...but Jeffrey..... you are developing a pattern here that I hope is not leading towards something bad for you!?!?

Well, I shall leave you all with good thoughts...

Geeked

EDIT: I got top honors again...so eat up...*snap* Flo here's my CC!

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Posted by howmus on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 2:44 PM

Good afternoon and a happy All Souls Day to you all!  (Was going to mention THAT earlier and forgot...)

I have been getting all the documentation together to apply for my NMRA Achievement Program Certificate as an Association Official much of the day.  i am wating for one more email stating I have carried out my "duties" in a timely and appropriate manner, and then just finish filling out the forms..... I will hand deliver the completed forms to the Division AP Manager when i see him in a week at a train show.  Then he signs them and forwards them to the Region AP Manager who reviews and signs them and then they get l;ost in the mail for a few months.....  Eventually they are found and approved and I get another thing to hang on the wall of the train room......  THAT will be certificate #4 which leaves me 3 more to do for MMR.  If I live long enough, learn enough, and keep at it.... who knows?  I have had a lot of fun so far in the program.

I got the chain saw running today, found all the missing tools I like to have with me, and cleaned out the back of the truck so I can hopefully cut up a tree tomorrow at a friends house.  Tonight I have Scout District Roundtable to go to.  I missed last months meeting so I guess I should go and see what is going on.  i have to find and sew on to one of my uniforms the patch that says, "Untrainable".....  I need to update my uniform shirts as all of them still have some patches left over from the old council.  One of these days, maybe.

My sister and her friend have headed out to New York City for a few days so guess who gets to drive up to Canandaigua to feed her cats?  You get three guesses and the first two don't count!  They are traveling via Amtrack as he loves trains.

Later!

73

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 2:57 PM

galaxy
Jeffrey..... you are developing a pattern here that I hope is not leading towards something bad for you!?!?

I'm in good health considering the problems I have. That would translate to the minus side of fair health for someone without my problems. No heart or cholesterol problems but loads of neurological related problems. I won't bore you with details. Suffice it to say I have very limited feeling below my elbows and knees and my hearing is scrambled.

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Posted by Cederstrand on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 4:06 PM

Coffee refill, please.

Add me to the sleep deprived list.

Had an appointment at tires+ (1:00) today for tire balance, which was covered. Didn't get out of there until almost 4:00. Ran a few errands in town and then when I hit a stretch of open road, the same bloody vibration began as before, felt mostly through the steering wheel? It was slightly better than before I took it in, but certainly isn't highway safe, IMO. Any thoughts as to what it could be?

Long day, tuckered out. -Rob

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 5:06 PM

Cederstrand

Had an appointment at tires+ (1:00) today for tire balance, which was covered. Didn't get out of there until almost 4:00. Ran a few errands in town and then when I hit a stretch of open road, the same bloody vibration began as before, felt mostly through the steering wheel? It was slightly better than before I took it in, but certainly isn't highway safe, IMO. Any thoughts as to what it could be?

Does the vibration happen when you're going straight? Turning? Braking? There are several issues that could be causing it. Wheel alignment, warped brake discs, wheel bearings, worn suspension bushings, one or more shocks going bad. It could be caused by any one of the above problems or a combination of two or more.

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Posted by Cederstrand on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 5:49 PM

***Jeffrey, it happens when going strait. By the time I hit 60, the vibration about doubles in intensity. I'll have to see if it does it during a "gentle" 55mph curve or not. There is a road I can check that out on  tomorrow and get back to you with results. -Rob

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Posted by Curt Webb on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 6:54 PM

Evening All,

Today was my short day (8 hours) so I'm at home tonight. The weather has been really nice this week. Tomorrow it is supposed to be 80 F then cool down a little for the weekend. Probably going to bed early as I'm pretty tired tonight.

We had no kids come to our door for Halloween. I'm glad we didn't buy much candy.

Jeff- I had a chuckle with the idea of your Dutch Cleanser car being so dirty.

Everyone have a good night. I think I will sit in the observation car for awhile before heading to the sleeper car.

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Posted by Mr. Dispatcher on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 7:23 PM

Hello Rob, Did they spin balance your tires or bubble balance them.? Along with the suggestions that Jeffrey mentioned you might have a broken belt in one of the tires. ( or did you get new tires ?.)Hmm If they are the same tires try putting them on the rear to see if the vibrations go away. ( If the vibrations move to the rear it's probably in the tires or rims.)  

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Posted by cudaken on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 7:23 PM

 Evening Fellow Dinners!

 Flo, beer please, tell you what, I like some fried chicken, potato skins and salad as well.

 Rob How many miles on the truck? One of the things that drove me nuts with my 68 Road Runner was a vibration. Turned out the rear end and slipped just a little on the leaf springs and the pinon angel was off. Might have a 4X4 shop check it out.

 Used Car Talked with Dan again, could not make it out to look at the car. Plus I did the math, with another 10 days to payday I would have no cash left, I thought about asking to borrow some money from a friend and decided against it. I think Dan will hold it for me, and he will be out of town this weekend anyway.

 Here is the car I hope to get.

 Talking with Dan is like talking to a old friend. We have so much in common, he collects coins, love old cars and likes Wolfhounds as well! Hum, need to ask if he likes trains next time we talk.

 E Bay I was bored today and was poking around on E Bay. Seven years ago I was hooked on it. Today came real close to rejoining, but stopped my self as I was half way through the form. I swear I spent $30,000.00 on E Bay (car parts). Nothing like shopping and full of beer! Laugh But I sure got some cool stuff! 

 Well, that about it tonight. Going to watch NCIS on CBS.Com and run some trains.

 Ken

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Posted by howmus on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 9:51 PM

Evenin' folks!

Just a cup of decaf for me tonight.

Went to the Scout Roundtable tonight.  Chatted for a while with our District Executive.  One of my units is probably not going to around for long unless some kind of miracle happens for them....  They have no new Cubs so far this year.  Only 4 other boys left, and one of them moves to Scouts next March.....  None of the recruitment drives they have done have brought in any new boys.  Could be a long fall for me as Commissioner. 

I am trying to figure out in my mind how I can reproduce this building on my layout....  There is no NYS Cobblestone premade wall material, so I will have to fabricate it somehow.  any ideas?

This building was built in the 1830's I believe....  It was a blacksmith shop.  All of these type of buildings were made prior to the civil war as they were all hand made and required a great deal of labor.  The stone is local stone pulled from farmers fields or found o the shores of Lake Ontario.  It was glacial till.   If I could figure out how to make an original of the side of the building, I could make a mold and make more....

Have a good night everyone!

73

 

Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO

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Posted by Mr. Dispatcher on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 10:02 PM

Ray - As far as the stone pattern you might try the textured brick paper sold by Micro-Mark unless you actually want to use a solid material.

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Thursday, November 3, 2011 12:11 AM

Ray:  I'm thinking something like a pouncewheel on very thin styrene maybe? So that the indents would be visible on the other side?

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 3, 2011 1:36 AM

Good Morning Gang,

what a terrible night!

Sigh

Did not catch much sleep. I really like to know what keeps me from getting the rest I dearly need!

Well, today´s is "M" day - moving day. We expect Petra´s relation to arrive early in the afternoon. They will stay over night with us. Petra will spend the better part of the day in the kitchen to prepare all the goodies we will need in the next days until the new household has been set up in working order. It´s a lot of work, but she really likes to do that. She is a gem (did i tell her that lately?)

Ray - on that brick structure - there are many ways of doing that brick work. I have seen folks using Styrofoam sheets, engraving the texture. Looks fantastic, but you´ll need a steady hand and a lot of time and patience to do that. Here is what I´d do - take a look over the Big Pond! UK model railroaders do a lot of scratch building of brick houses. There is a company supplying down loadable textures, for a very small fee. You can print those textures on a high quality printer as many times as you´d need it, glue it on cardboard - here are your walls. This is what the texture looks like:

Pretty close to what you are looking for, me thinks!

Take a look at this web page:

Scalescenes

Y´ all have a good day!

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Posted by galaxy on Thursday, November 3, 2011 1:44 AM

GOOD MORNING!!!

Today is Thursday, November 3rd, 2011!!!

Make it a GREAT day!!!

-G .

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Good morning...
Posted by wetidlerjr on Thursday, November 3, 2011 3:08 AM

 

Good Morning ! from Tipton IN.

 

Cool

 

 

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