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Posted by thortenney on Thursday, November 3, 2011 5:47 AM

Good morning everyone!  Just popping in to say Hello!  I was planning on working on my bench work this week but so far this week no progress to tired or lazy......  Maybe i will get some work done this week end. The weather is suppose to be lousy so it should be a good time for some mrr work.  Well i am off to hit the big road again i will see you all tonight!!

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Posted by BamaCSX83 on Thursday, November 3, 2011 5:55 AM

Morning all.  I think I'm going to have biscuits and gravy, side order of sausage, and a tall glass of milk.  Got a pretty busy day ahead of me, have to go to w**k by 0700, getting off at 1700, followed by a birthday cookout at my FIL's house for Mikayla's (that's the 2 year old) birthday (which is actually tomorrow but everyone is busy so we're doing the party today). 

Thank goodness I don't have to open tomorrow morning, this being up at the crack of dawn isn't always as fun as it used to be (especially when I'm up this early and NOT going hunting).

Well, I've only got about a half hour before I head off to serve the people of Troy and surrounding towns with their high quality auto parts, so I guess I'll scarf down my food and see what else I can shake around here.

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Thursday, November 3, 2011 6:01 AM

Good Morning

I'll have a breakfast bagel and a coffee here please..

I'm getting ready to do another series of weekend seminars and some paperw**k for w**k.

The Xmas flyers are starting to creep out of their various holes now...so the paper  recyclers will e extra busy hereWhistling

Oh...and Todd, we already got 3 Christmas  cards sent to us..guess what that means.Sigh

I'll go to the RC for now....

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Posted by TMarsh on Thursday, November 3, 2011 6:04 AM

Good Morning!! Coffee and the number 3 Brakeman’s special scrambled please. Thank you.

Occasional rain. High near 49. It’s raining now.

Well, the house closed, but not without it’s issues. Nothing wrong with the house or the loan this time, the Title Company just couldn’t seem to get the HUD paperwork right so FHA and (ready for this Ken) Bank of America would take it. It took 3 ½ hours to close with all the changes and corrections. BUT it’s a done deal. Feels like a loss, but a relief as well.

Rob- Since you just had them balanced again, I would definitely take Otto’s advice and get the tires on the rear to see if the vibration changes location.

Ray- on the old Blacksmiths built. (don’t want to call it a building cause they’re done building it) What is that what appears as maybe a loading door on the right of the picture. I mean, why is it so high. Wa sthere a loading dock at one time and again if so why so high. Or Is the height deceiving. Cnt think why you’ need a door that high in 1830’s. I hate to say this, but you could cast a smooth piece of plaster then…(gulp) spend the next month carving out the texture and then make your mold off that. Hey, winter is coming.Whistling

Welp, first day I don’t have to do anything at Mom’s wonder what I’ll do. Confused

Ya’ll have a Great Day!!!

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Posted by cudaken on Thursday, November 3, 2011 7:44 AM

 Morning Folks

 Flo Coffee to go.

 Short day today, only 10 Hours! Don't have to be to work till 9:00 AM so I thought I drop by. Going to take the trains around the pike a few times, then off to the shower.

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Posted by gear-jammer on Thursday, November 3, 2011 7:52 AM

Good morning, All.  Chloe, I will have my usual quick coffee before heading into town.  I will try to check in tonight.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Thursday, November 3, 2011 9:00 AM

Good morning. It's 47°, mostly cloudy, wet and breezy with a NNW wind at 8 mph. There's a 30% chance of rain this morning but clearing out by noon. The high is due to be 63° and it will be mostly cloudy.

We got some rain last night but it didn't amount to much. We may get some light rain this morning. The boys out on Fort Polk are having a lot of fun making big booms but I don't hear any thunder. Anything dense enough to show up on radar is passing over east Louisiana heading ESE into Mississippi and there's nothing showing to the west of here. I'll be going into town later to get the rest of my grocery shopping done. I picked up some items recently in a trade. One of them is a track cleaning car that uses a dry pad. Initially I looked at it as being useless as all I have to do in the way of cleaning is give the rails a quick light wipe after any long period of inactivity. No real cleaning is involved. I've come to realize that I can have a loco push this thing around the layout and it can wipe the dust off for me. Being it's harder and more painful for me to get around than it was just a few years ago anything that can make things easier and save me from some pain is worth a shot. Getting to the east side of the layout requires opening an access hole from underneath and getting to a standing position in that access is a royal pain in the butt. That access allows me to get to about seven feet of track that would otherwise be out of my reach. If this little cleaning car can wipe the dust off that portion of track why should I torture myself.

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Posted by howmus on Thursday, November 3, 2011 9:57 AM

Mornin' everyone!

Zoe, I'll have a short stack of buttermilk pancakes, a sausage patty, and several cups of dark roast coffee to get the day started.

Otto and Ulrich, thanks, but the structure isn't brick...  Not even close to being brick.  It is a type of building style very unique to this area of New York State.  This site has a close up of the side of a similar building: http://www.fingerlakes.com/attractions/cobblestone-buildings   It may even be from the old Blacksmith's shop.  Todd, the upper door on the right of the photo I posted should be original.  Many barns of that vintage had similar things.  There is a driveway around that side of the structure.  My guess is that a horse drawn wagon would be brought up along side of the building for loading or unloading using a small crane extending from the top of the door.  Rather like the hay hook assembly we had on the old barn on the farm.  The building is quite small.  It is 32' across and each of the 8 sides is only 12.5' wide.  I looked up the listing in a historic site and it says it was built in 1832.  "In Alloway. At the NE corner of the intersection of Alloway Rd. & Water St. Blacksmith shop, octagon, 2 story, cobblestone, no cupola, very good condition, now used for storage."  Here is a close up of a window area on the Blacksmith's Shop:


I may try actually setting very small round stones on sand to make the cobblestones, score a line in the sand on either side, then wet it all with a very fine mist.  Then see if I can pour plaster over the whole thing without ruining the lineup of the "cobblestones".  There are about 1000 buildings made of natural cobble stones from farm fields and collected from the shores of Lake Ontario in Central NY.  almost all were built from about 1830 to 1860.  Most are still standing (including a couple well known structures here in Geneva) and are still being used for homes, businesses and farms.  The blacksmith shop is currently being used for storage.  If I can scratch build this, I would hope to get a merit award as well as have a "one of a kind" structure on the layout.

Hope you all have a great day!

73

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Posted by Cederstrand on Thursday, November 3, 2011 10:20 AM

Coffee in a SOUTHERN PACIFIC mug, please.

Thanks for the Toyota suggestions. It's a 2001 Camry LE. I'm not sure what to do. The van only needs a new rim, so I'd get 2 steel rims (total = $250), replace the bad one and save the remaining good aluminum rim for an extra spare. At least I know it would drive down the road. Then again, IF the Toyota doesn't end up costing to much, it does get better gas mileage. What to do!?!

I haven't yet taken the Toyota out today to note details on the vibration. -Rob

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Posted by Cox 47 on Thursday, November 3, 2011 10:25 AM

Good Morning All...Its rainy and 47 here..I'll have coffee and toast with honey please..Thanks ...not much planned today..damp weather has ol' Aurther acting up so a good day  to spend in Lazy boy with a blanket..You all have a good one...Jerry

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Thursday, November 3, 2011 12:21 PM

TMarsh

Ray- on the old Blacksmiths built. (don’t want to call it a building cause they’re done building it) What is that what appears as maybe a loading door on the right of the picture. I mean, why is it so high. Wa sthere a loading dock at one time and again if so why so high. Or Is the height deceiving.

 

LION THINKS... (LION did not see the picture in question so his answer may be off the wall) for the LION has seen such high doors as these, especially in older structures, that a hoist was used to lift material for storage on an upper level of the building.

On our barn we have such a door near the top of the building. There is no floor near the door on the inside. Ropes would string from the hoist door to the back of the barn, to the ground level in the back of the barn, and to the front and out front doors on either side of the barn where they were hitched to horses, which walking away from the barn would lift the hay to the loft, trolley the hay overhead to the place where it was to be set down, and then lowered to the hay loft floor.

Could it be that your blacksmith shop has a similar arrangement, albeit not as elaborate. Maybe that door was used to load coal into an overhead bin from where it could be fed to the forge fire below as needed?

I know that to this day there are four and five story buildings along the Brooklyn waterfront that have big double doors on each floor. Look closely and you will see a gibbit under the eves where ropes could lift goods to any floor of the ware house. This of course was in the days before elevators, and an 1830s building would certainly qualify for that.

Maybe this solves the problem, maybe knot. Do not put a knot in the LION'S Tail. He does not like this.

 

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Thursday, November 3, 2011 12:24 PM

Hello everybody. I'll have some chile, please.

Ray ... That building looks like a real challenge. Have fun!

I posted this engine in another thread, but I think the DIners will like seeing it.

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Posted by howmus on Thursday, November 3, 2011 1:06 PM

 

BroadwayLion

 

 

LION THINKS... (LION did not see the picture in question so his answer may be off the wall) for the LION has seen such high doors as these, especially in older structures, that a hoist was used to lift material for storage on an upper level of the building.

On our barn we have such a door near the top of the building. There is no floor near the door on the inside. Ropes would string from the hoist door to the back of the barn, to the ground level in the back of the barn, and to the front and out front doors on either side of the barn where they were hitched to horses, which walking away from the barn would lift the hay to the loft, trolley the hay overhead to the place where it was to be set down, and then lowered to the hay loft floor.

Afternoon folks,

Lion, you are exactly right.  Those big doors for loading and unloading wagons were very common.  There is a driveway right underneath the door as well.  I do wish i could find more on the history of the building and the little town (about 4 houses) of Alloway, NY.

I am off to cut up a couple of trees for firewood.....

Later!

73

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 3, 2011 2:56 PM

Good Evening Gang

just stopping over for a moment before hitting the hay. Been a tiring day. Petra´s aunt and uncle have arrived safely. we had not seen them for quite some time and were shocked to see how they have aged in those years. The move will do them good!

Ray - Oops - I should have enlarged the picture! That´s going to be some job to capture this texture!

Out for the day - see you tomorrow!

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Thursday, November 3, 2011 4:26 PM

Went to town earlier today. Went to Lowe's first and got a couple of cans of starting fluid for my van. It doesn't start so fast in cold weather. A one of two second spray of the fluid assures a hit on the first crank. Also got a four pack of super glue and a bottle of super glue gel, two packs of 2 x 3/8 brass screws. Then on to Wal-Mart for the remainder of my grocery shopping. On the way back home the wind had increased to 12 mph from the NW with 30 mph gusts. That gets to be fun when you're driving something that has the aerodynamics of a billboard. And now I have to go back to Lowe's. I got a cartridge filter for my Shop-Vac and got the wrong one. Fun, fun.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Thursday, November 3, 2011 5:31 PM

And to top it all off, the LION spend four minutes looking for a tool that he was holding in his left paw.

GRRRrrrrrr

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Thursday, November 3, 2011 7:06 PM

The Shop-Vac hangup now has a new filter but not the type I wanted. Lowe's doesn't the 903-98 cartridge. I'll have to order it online when I have the money for it. The filter I put in is a combination of several filters. A foam sleeve topped by a paper filter topped by a fine mesh cloth filter. Anything that can get through all that is indeed very fine. I also picked up a half-pint can of mis-tinted satin paint. It's very close to an emerald green.

It's cooling off here. Tonight's temp will be in the upper 30's.

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Posted by galaxy on Thursday, November 3, 2011 7:56 PM

SHHH!!!

GOOD NIGHT!!!

Sleep Well!!!

Tomorrow will dawn a new day!!!

Geeked

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Posted by howmus on Thursday, November 3, 2011 8:19 PM

Evenin' Folks!

What's all the yelling in here.....  Oh Nighty, Night Galaxy!!! Don't let the Bed Bugs Bite....

I'll have a nice hot chocolate right now to warm me up.

Went over to an old colleague's house today an cut up one of the 2 trees they have down in the back yard....  I'm sure I'll feel it tomorrow!  I think it amounted to about 1/3 face cord once it is split and stacked.  Hardest part was cutting through the grape vines that probably choked the tree and killed it.  Wood should be usable this winter if I need it.  There is one more larger tree to be cut up.  This one is actually on a Doctors property (his office) and he said I could have half the tree if I cut the other half for him.  Fair enough!  It should be a straight forward job except for carrying the rounds over to my truck.  Half that tree will be about the same amount of wood I got today......

My old 25+ year old Sachs Dolmar saw started on the first pull today and breezed through the job.  THAT old girl doesn't owe me a thing.  Other than the occasional tune up, it has run and run and run, year after year.  Done wore out a bunch of chains on it though.  It is actually good for the old Dodge Dakota to be run a bit more.  I just put the 2nd tank of gas in it this year...  Filled her up with mid range stuff to pep up the old gas from 6 months ago.  She is running well again.  My son will be drive it to work once every other week this Winter when I have to pick up my Granddaughter at School.  The truck is now officially 10 years old (It was a 2002 model I bought in October of 2001). 

Some time in the next couple of days I have to get the snowblower up and running and parked on the deck where i can get to it as needed this Winter.  It needs a bit of "bodywork" as some things got bent a bit last year.  This may be the last winter for it as she is getting old and harder to start.  It is a 8 HP model THAT used to have an electric starter.  THAT failed the 3rd. year I had it (about 8 years ago.....).

Hope you all have a great evening!

73

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Posted by CNCharlie on Thursday, November 3, 2011 8:55 PM

Good Evening,

Thanks Johnboy for all the mild weather, keep it coming! It hit 50F again today.

Rob, Those '01 Camrys are really good cars. I used to look after our District Manager car fleet and we had that generation of Camry's for several years. They were by far the most reliable cars ever in the fleet. As far as your vibration goes, I would agree with the others to do a tire rotation and put the front ones on the back as a first course of action. These things are often a process of elimination.

I'm still plugging away at my trackbed on the risers. I want to get it really smooth as a little bump in HO is a derailment in N. Have to say that I'm now wondering about the wisdom of not going with Unitrack and just sticking to DC. Oh well, there is no going back now but those decoders are starting to add up. I guess a solution would be to stop buying locos.

Jerry, how is Sallie doing? You mentioned she went for tests. Hope all is well.

Well it is now TV time so see you soon.

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Thursday, November 3, 2011 9:24 PM

Good evening ..

CN Charlie ... I have heard Camry's are reliable also.

Ray ... Looking forward to seeing how your power house looks. You do good work.

On the layout I'm making retaining walls for some of my elevated parts of the layout such as behind my powere houes.

Where's JimCG? Did somebody lock the side door again?

 Cheers, everybody.

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Posted by cudaken on Thursday, November 3, 2011 9:56 PM

 Evening Fellow Dinners!

 Flo, Prime Rib Medium Rare, onion rings, salad and a Beer

 Rob Sorry I missed the part about the vibration being on a Camry. If it has a drive shaft, that is your problem! Laugh

 Jeffery What is cold down there anyway?

 Work Front, If No One Is Going To Train Me, Then I Will Have To Train My Self! At this point I am the only one there with a vested interest if I get trained. So this morning I sat Scott (Manager) down and laid it on the line, I am not learning anything about the business I need to know! Finally getting to see some of the paper work and information about the tires we carry. While I don't know all the tires,  have 5 or so for each type of tire we carry. And I can find them (no longer just a name on the screen) and show them to a customer!

 Got to read some of the SOP manual today! Reason I said some, lot of it is missing, but it is a start. Was shown the tire Bible today as well. I now know what LT & P stand for, DOT codes and speed ratings.   

 Found out today there are on line test I should be taking? Scott was shocked when he found out I was never told how to take them. I had 6 test that where passed due all ready! Started taking them as soon as I found out about them.

 I am gong to make it here one way or another! Time to take the bull by the horns! I know how to train a new person, now all I have to do is do it backwards and train my self!

 See you all later.

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Posted by ns3010 on Thursday, November 3, 2011 10:14 PM

Evening all.

Ugh. What an insane week. Insane life, actually. School, college stuff, blizzards, hockey, you name it, it's happening.

I don't even know what day it is. Every day in school this week, it's a Friday schedule, and we're having a Friday schedule every day next week as well. I keep thinking THAT every day is Friday, but the next day is never Saturday! Meanwhile, all I can think of is the song Friday by Rebecca Black!!!!

What day is it again?

I'm tired and going insane, so I just need to go to sleep. I'll catch you guys later.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Thursday, November 3, 2011 10:15 PM

cudaken

 Jeffery What is cold down there anyway?

Cold down here is usually around 15 to 35 degrees (not counting wind chill) though it has been known to drop to 5 or 10 below zero for a day or two. Sometimes we even get a little snow but usually we get ice, hopefully not several times a night. The last 'heavy' snow we had here (one and a half inches is considered heavy here. Schools close when there's over half an inch) we had an ice storm on top of it followed by rain then a hard freeze then more rain and another freeze. Result? Everything had two and a half inches of ice on it. Nothing was moving and that ice was as slick as oiled glass.

 

Time for me to call it a night. See y'all tomorrow.

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Posted by galaxy on Friday, November 4, 2011 1:56 AM

GOOD MORNING!!!

Today is Friday, November 4th, 2011!!!

The weekend is about here!!!

-G .

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Friday, November 4, 2011 6:08 AM

BroadwayLion

And to top it all off, the LION spend four minutes looking for a tool that he was holding in his left paw.

GRRRrrrrrr

I spent about that much time trying to find my magnifying glasses...that I had on my head! 

...at least it wasn't like the last time..spent 3 HOURS trying to find needle nose pliers...that I had right in front of me..on the workbench  

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Good Morning...

A wonderful weekend of on-call is slotted for me..all sunny and getting warmer..48F today and by Sunday all of 58F...

Have a couple of things that I  need to do here today..more grocery getting and other honey buys...oh gee..where did the list go to now......then I can haz a few minutes of relative peace running the trains..and seeing what else goes poof on me.

Flo, I'll just have a coffee for now...I'll be at the RC for a bit.

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Friday, November 4, 2011 6:12 AM

ns3010
 I keep thinking THAT every day is Friday, but the next day is never Saturday! Meanwhile, all I can think of is the song Friday by Rebecca Black!!!!

What day is it again?

I'm tired and going insane, so I just need to go to sleep. I'll catch you guys later.

-Joe

Oh noes!! Not again!!! Now you got me doing it !!!   

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Posted by LSWrr on Friday, November 4, 2011 6:14 AM

Good Morning All,

 

Berry, congratulations; what operating system are you using?  Last month I picked up the PowerSpec G212 running Windows 7 and found several of my old programs were made obsolete. L

 

Todd, on a more local story about time: communities around the Great Lakes refused to switch to the new time zones until the ferry boats and freighters, dependent on rail traffic, switched to “railroad time”.  Then everyone decided to give it a try.

 

Ok, I took today off because the window guys will be here around 0900 so I better get moving.

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Friday, November 4, 2011 6:27 AM

Lee:   Windows 7-64 bit...and there is not enough VST's that have ported over to 64 bit......I get to use bitbridge to fiddle with those. The Digital Audio Workstation set up here is a little funny..Reaper version 4 and Sonar X1c ..great little audio systems here.

As far as the older programs go if you are on 64 bit then yeah..it is a bit frustrating. If you are on 32 bit then it can be done through Properties still.

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Posted by TMarsh on Friday, November 4, 2011 7:12 AM

Good Morning!! Coffee and an egg sandwich please. Thanks.

Long day yesterday. Cold and rainy. But today will be Sunny, with a high near 56.

Ray and Lion- As obvious as it was it just didn’t click until Ray said…”Rather like the hay hook assembly we had on the old barn on the farm” at which point I said to myself…”well DUH! Not like they had freight elevators back then”Laugh. Never even clicked until the barn comment. Yup, seen and used my share of those.

Yes, where is Jim? Actually we need to check the back door. He always likes to stop and chat with the girls in the back break room when he comes in. Sometimes I think he comes in and doesn’t get any farther than there. Maybe that’s what he means when he says he’s been “checking in”Whistling.

Go KEN! I don’t want to jump to conclusions, but it sure sounds like you may be getting set up for failure. I hope not, but it does seem someone or someone's isn't helping you. At least you have the determination to step up and show them you are the guy for the job.

Actually, I’m guessing Jeff probably doesn’t have much different “cold” than us. It’s the amount of time spent there that is the big difference. He may have a day or two of in the teens or twenties where we have weeks. Your average say January is what Jeff, mid thirties? With a few scattered days dropping into the twenties or teens? IIRC that’s bout what it was like in Austin. Of course then we have the 0 to 20’s that are few and far between down there, but common up here.

What’s up with Barry? He ok? He just started babbling some foreign language. You don’t suppose that’s speaking in tongues do you? Never heard it in real life before.

Again, don’t know what I’ll do before w**k tonight.

Ya’ll have a Great Day!!!

Todd  

Central Illinoyz

In order to keep my position as Master and Supreme Ruler of the House, I don't argue with my wife.

I'm a small town boy. A product of two people from even smaller towns. I don’t talk on topic….. I just talk. Laugh

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