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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Friday, November 26, 2010 8:25 PM

Had a very good Thanksgiving yesterday but last night wasn't so good. It sometimes takes me a while to get comfortable enough to get some sleep due to pain in my neck, back, ribs or knees. Last night it was all of the above and I got only an hour and a half of sleep. Hopefully I'll get more tonight. It's supposed to be 30 tonight then in the low 60's tomorrow. Don't you just love yo-yo weather?

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Posted by Cederstrand on Friday, November 26, 2010 8:04 PM

Coffee in a UNION PACIFIC mug, please.

To my fellow Americans, hope y'all had a nice Thanksgiving. And a belated Happy Birthday to any I missed. 

Have not made it to the Diner in a while. Will have to work on that.

Cheers! Cowboy

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Friday, November 26, 2010 5:48 PM

Happy B-DayHappy B-Day RAY!!!! Happy B-DayHappy B-Day

Welb, I got told that there will be a pre-admit on Wednesday--the 1st of December for the surgery---the surgery will be on the 10th of December for my ICD---I can haz normal heart rythym?Wink

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Posted by ns3010 on Friday, November 26, 2010 5:43 PM

Hey, JR, where'd you find that RS11 (or, well, that half of it)?

A few weeks ago, I found its sibling, ME 7205, at the Morristown & Erie shops:

I knew a few of those units were parted out (some scrapped), but I wasn't sure where the remainders were sent.

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Posted by GMTRacing on Friday, November 26, 2010 4:31 PM

Good Afternoon All,

     And a Happy Birthday to Ray and a belated one to Robby.

    Finished tearing apart the Cooper/Chevy motor, added some mising pieces and fixed a couple of other things so it's off home in a bit. Electrician has finished up for today and the equipment is working as intended so that's all good.

  I see PC has found what happens when you pay peanuts (you get monkeys or at best elephants).

Speaking of elephants - here is an elephant graveyard.

 

And here in the deserted streets of the panicked city, the Martians are preparing to land. Will they be handing out peanuts? Fanmail from some flounders?  Sorry too many fumes today I guess.

Off to home or just plain off. CUL, J.R.

 

  

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Posted by Flashwave on Friday, November 26, 2010 4:30 PM

cudaken

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 Hum, everyone one must be sleeping off there Turkey Day.

 Well Morgan, I like that plan a lot. I will have a few questions latter today. I all so agree that the 4 lines running side by side one of the reasons I not in love with the last plan. But I am trying to avoid (and failing) some of the common pitfalls such as to wide of a bench. One of the reasons I was originally looking at around the room plan.

 Can you E Mail a working RTS plan of the last layout?

 See you all later today.

             Ken

Would be glad to. If I knew where to send it. (Which was the PM Conversation I tried to sendasking about a locale, though it may have been eaten by the digtal postal monster)

OOH! Been playing with a Google site last night, I bet I can toss it there for you (and others) to download, since the one I was building in Dreamweaver failed spectacularly...  

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Posted by ns3010 on Friday, November 26, 2010 2:44 PM

Afternoon all.

Happy B-Day Robby! (sorry it's late, but it got lost in my post yesterday.

and Happy B-Day Ray!

(also lost in my post yesterday,) We won on Wednesday, 7-6! We're undefeated! Well, at least until our next game on Wednesday...

Well, I've gotta get back to my English paper... Grumpy

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Posted by AmanaMedic on Friday, November 26, 2010 2:26 PM

Gooooooooooooooooooooooood Afternoon. A pot of coffee please 'n thank-ya. Whilst cogitating on this week's articles to write, I've got "the First Cav Medic radio station" cranked up via Live 365 (live365.com). The "DJ," Jon Dennison, was a combat medic in 'Nam. Since 2000 he's had an internet radio station blasting out music of the era with cuts from AFVN broadcasts. Good stuff, and a good guyThumbs Up. If your internet machine can handle it, give him a listen sometime.

RAY: Happy Birthday to ya!I won't spank ya, but I'll shake your hand.

CUDA KEN: I'll enthusiastically second the motion you look at a double-deck layout. You've got the room. You've got the trackage... I think it all but screams for it. I think you've even got a long-enough run you wouldn't have to mess with a helix to get from one deck to the other. I mean, IF I'm reading your plans right, you've got 4' wide sections??? I'm questioning my sanity at going 2-1/2' wide. For all the "stuff" you want...I really think you'll about have to go double-deck...maybe even triple deck! Don't go wide...go UP!

Hey, wasn't there a three-deck layout plan in MR some years back??? I think it was called "the mushroom" or something like THAT...

TODD: If your belly still be bloated and needing a wheelbarrow...I think I still remember how to "drop an NG tube," could do THAT and see if we can't reduce it some...Whistling

 

Think I'll just slide into a corner booth, spread out my notes for five articles...and see what I can hammer out for THAT Editor. So THAT's the Cowboy Church, the Horseman's Club, A dead TIGER (grant), an update from The Battle of Ireland Avenue, and school board looks at space issues. Yup...gonna be a hoot and a hollar for sure.

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Posted by Cox 47 on Friday, November 26, 2010 2:19 PM

Afternoon all...Its sunny and cold here..I'll have a plate of left overs please..Thank You..Not much going on here on pearl street..We are having our Thanksgiving  saturday with the new baby..I got a real surprise yesterda when they brought the baby by...They put him in my arms and said "meet Jerry Otto Cox" They had told me his name would be Otto Franklin but they had realy choose to name the baby after me..Yes I cried!...

Happy Birthday Ray!!..hope You have a great day!...

You all have a great one..Jerry

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Friday, November 26, 2010 1:29 PM

Happy B-DayHappy birthday Ray.Happy B-Day

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Friday, November 26, 2010 1:24 PM

Hello everyone...

I'll have a turkey sandwich, please.

Happy b'day, Ray!

House is still full of vistors. Grandkids have the Brio wood train set all over the big room floor downstairs. ... I conducted layout tours for familiy members yesterday.

 

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Posted by galaxy on Friday, November 26, 2010 12:45 PM

Good afternoon

Slept in late, very late, but have been up a time or two. Ate some leftover trukey and stuffing.

My Other half {MOH} has a cold and I think I'm getting it. Supposed to go collect both conforters form INLaws beds and wash them and supposed to go see MIL in the hospital, dunno if that all will get done as we both seem to be sleeping a lot today. From the cold I imagine. MOH Say Michael at work shared his cold, and I joke that "he shared and he didn't even kiss you when he shared"- the reaction I get is "EWWW GROSS  I wouldn't want him kissing me, he's ugly!". I feel sorry for the guy.

HAppy Birthday RAY! Happy B-Day Cake Gift  And you need how many did you say? 64 *spankings*...more than twice what RObby P. got yesterday!Whistling I'm sure the grand girls will give you a Left Hug {left hug} and a Right Hug {right hug} for your birthday!

 

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Posted by Robby P. on Friday, November 26, 2010 11:58 AM

 Just a quick stop.

 Thanks for all of the b-days yesterday.   It was a good day!!

 Ray.........Happy b-day!!

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Posted by last mountain & eastern hogger on Friday, November 26, 2010 11:31 AM

Whistling

Hi Ken,

Just my thoughts here for what it is worth.

I like your layout plan a great deal, but, I feel much like Ulrich does, and that you are loosing your original concept of a mountain road.

I do think you can recapture it though. I don't know whether you have considered a second level. (I would)

Take a set of tracks off the right side area and let them go down to an area under what you have on the left side. Move your large yard and servicing area down to the lower level leaving that top level for more rugged landscaping.   " BINGO"

Just my My 2 Cents worth.

A very Big Happy Birthday to Ray of the Finger Lakes.  I still have you beat Ray I'm 70.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 26, 2010 10:34 AM

I knew it!

Somewhere in the back of my head I knew I missed a birthday!

Happy B-Day Ray!

This one´s for you!

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Posted by howmus on Friday, November 26, 2010 10:28 AM

Mornin' everyone!

Zoe, just a cup of dark roast coffee for me...  Ate much too much yesterday!  Well,  maybe one of those glazed donuts over there....  I'll eat it standing up so it won't count. Wink

Slept in late this morning after all the festivities yesterday.  Today I get to watch my granddaughters while my son and his wife go out to the stores for Black Friday!!!! SurpriseIck!  Of course I can use any excuse to help out when my Granddaughters are concerned....Big Smile  Then they are cooking me some great meal (Salmon on a plank possibly?) for my birthday.  Yep!  Made it to 64!

Doesn't look like I will get any time for the MRR again.

Oh!  I have to go shut down the draw on the wood stove,  It is really cranking the heat.....

Later!

73

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Posted by BRAKIE on Friday, November 26, 2010 10:06 AM

Good Morning All!

Not much to report from the land of Buckeyes other then its 28 degrees out this morning-time to throw another log on the fire.We had a good feast yesterday and had our fill..Next bash is the Christmas dinner.

Of course there was no modeling done yesterday but,I did see a Westbound NS manifest on the way home.

 

Ken,I don't even want to know how that set up works.WHEW!

Nice layout

I shall have a cup and look over the forum.

Have a good'un! Thumbs Up

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 26, 2010 10:00 AM

Good Afternoon Folks,

I can still smell roasted turkey, sweet potato mash, buttered corn and veggies in the air - did anyone leave over some of that apple and chestnut stuffing? No?

Flo, just a regular coffee for me, please.

I should start to get easy on my diet - I am losing weight too rapidly, which makes me worry. I can´t afford to buy new clothes Smile, Wink & Grin

Ken - I kinda like and dislike your plan. I like how it is coming along, as your ideas get more and more "mature", but I still think it is way too much track in the given space, leaving only little room for scenery. The plan has now a more urban flavor to it, and I am not sure, if that´s what you want to have. Well, easy for me to criticize without chipping in my own idea, but I am still in the thinking stage. There are some ideas in my head, which are really crazy and far off your original druthers, but heck, I will put them on paper, once I am through with that thinking process. Just a hint: This is my island in the sun, where my people have toiled since time begun Whistling

Todd - belly on a wheel barrow - I thought it was a piglet for a nice pork roast here in the Diner Laugh

This weekend, the Advent season starts  with a layer of snow to boost! Petra got out all the Christmas decoration stuff and our little leaving room starts to look like a Xmas bazaar. What I am still missing is the smell of cookies and Xmas punch. Actually, that´s what I like about the season, the flickering light of candles, the nice smell in the house, having time with the family. I don´t like the business side of it. Well, we are lucky - it is going to be the third Christmas without any presents Crying

Blessings to all of you!

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Posted by TMarsh on Friday, November 26, 2010 9:20 AM

(door opens and a wheelbarrow enters containing what appears to be a large pink ball followed closely by Todd. Upon closer observation it is realized that he is carrying his stomach around in the wheelbarrow)

Good Morning! Just coffee please. Still a bit full from yesterday.

Ken- Indifferentyou mean….. Tongue TiedShe has….. ConfusedHe doesn’t ca…..Huh?she brought the boy….Hmm …. Wow. You win.

All I had was the, (who said it Garry?), kids and their self made money problems and how no one will help them enough to solve them.Bang Head Grumpy Oh, and they were complaining about the outlaw of Menthol cigarettes and how they will have to smoke non mentholConfused. My response? “ Seems to me you have the money for $7 a pack cigarettes, I don’t wanna hear your crying and (rhymes with twitching) to me because you don’t have and need money for bills. By the way, nice fancy cell phone you have pressed to your ear there. Plan must be a doozey to allow all that texting and conversating going on.” Super Angry

I still like Ken’s last plan best. I would drop the four mains to two though. I really like the town area. The mountain could be to the upper right of the town to give the area the feel. I also would probably remove about a foot of bench and the inside yard while scooting the track and a couple “rungs” of track on the big yard (oh, like J.R. said) to make the bench a bit narrower. In the corners I would make provisions for a popup, but on the flats, I agree with Morgan. 4 feet, though do able for me with a boost, is pushing it. I know you can get those over the layout things, but I’d rather spend my money on the layout. Course, as a bodyman, I’m sure Ken can weld so…..

My Black Friday shall consist of w**king at Mom’s house then w**k at the restaurant.

Y’all have a Great Day now ya hear?!!!

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Friday, November 26, 2010 8:44 AM

Good morning. It's 40 and cloudy. High today will be about 54. There's a 40% chance of rain this afternoon and the low tonight looks to be 30.

We're having a bout of the infamous yo-yo weather. Up, down, up, down. Had a good day yesterday. Got plenty to eat yet managed to keep my blood sugar levels in check. The meter read 79 this morning so I did pretty good. I'll go back today and collect some leftovers to help stretch my own food reserves until the first of the month. My ankle got a fairly serious workout yesterday so I'll be taking it easy today. I may limit my layout work to simply installing bulbs in some structures. The bulbs I have are rated for 2.4 volts so a cluster of 3 wired in series will be sufficient on a 5 volt line. That will light the structure and will also last a while.

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Posted by pcarrell on Friday, November 26, 2010 8:25 AM

I see everyone survived turkey day OK?  Now we've just got to make it through Black Friday and we're clear sailing for a while!

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Posted by GMTRacing on Friday, November 26, 2010 8:25 AM

Good morning All,

    A belated Happy Thankgiving to all. Didn't even turn the puter on yesterday and I'm in the shop this morning (the joys of self employment) with the electrician, his son and the CFO. Trying to get the new lathe, CNC and magnaflux hooked up, etc.

    Dinner was at oldest sons and DILs' yesterday and a fine time it was. Daughter showed, #2 son made it in from Plattsburg, #3 son made an appearance for quite a while and DILs' sisters and sisters boyfriends showed up for dessert. Nice day all around.

   Ken - I like the trend on the layout and I will side with Morgan and your reservations on the width of the table with 4 mains. Still if the don't all stay at the same elevations and you get creative with the scenery, you can have some good mountainous features with the town and yard nestled in valleys just like the real thing. As for narrowing up the yard for more room, I would lose some of the shorter sections. I assume the turntable/storage tracks are just a placeholder until you have actual parts to fit.

   Back to it it I'm to get anything done today.   CUL, J.R.

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Posted by wetidlerjr on Friday, November 26, 2010 7:35 AM

 

Good Morning ! from Tipton IN.

Dinner

 

IT'S BLACK FRIDAY !

 

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Posted by LSWrr on Friday, November 26, 2010 7:29 AM

Good Morning,

I bought a package of the JTT (MRC) branches.  They are wire forms with poufs of foliage on them and come 100 to a pack for $8.  I’m hooked; so far I’ve planted 250 of them on the layout in groves. They look very well on the layout and short enough to reach over them if you need to, if you bump into them you can just bend them back into shape.  I have a few more to plant on the near edge of the layout; once I’m done I’ll share some pictures.

 

I hope everyone had a good Thanksgiving.  HAPPY BIRTHDAY ROBBY!

 

Todd, we got about 4” of rain yesterday according to the news, no snow yet….

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Posted by cudaken on Friday, November 26, 2010 7:29 AM

Mourning AZ

 Hum, everyone one must be sleeping off there Turkey Day.

 Well Morgan, I like that plan a lot. I will have a few questions latter today. I all so agree that the 4 lines running side by side one of the reasons I not in love with the last plan. But I am trying to avoid (and failing) some of the common pitfalls such as to wide of a bench. One of the reasons I was originally looking at around the room plan.

 Can you E Mail a working RTS plan of the last layout?

 See you all later today.

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Posted by Wisconsin Railfan on Friday, November 26, 2010 6:04 AM

Good Morning Folks!

Just passing through, hope everyone had a nice Thanksgiving, and didn't eat to much.

Have a Great weekend all!

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Posted by Flashwave on Thursday, November 25, 2010 10:06 PM

Evening/Morning/Afternoon, all.

Well, Thanksgivign sure felt like a Drumstick Dash... We went to Mom's Boyfirend's family's schtick in Salem Indiana for a large lunch (Yay Monon Semaphores!) and then raced BACK to Hendrick's Countyfor Dinner at Grandma's. She's not doing too well motion-wise. I worry about her. But she's one to want to go in HER home, not anywhere else, so the middle of nowhwere it is. (New WInchester, IN, near the former NYC-Beeline that connects Marion OH-Indianapolis-Avon-Terre Haute)

cudaken

 

I came out to the garage and played with the track plan some more.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j284/cudaken/Layut%20ideas/BigYardandTrainStationjpg.jpg

 While I like this, it won't be the final plan. Need to get rid of some of the yard so I have more walk way. After I included a Train Station, clearances is down to around a foot.

 What I am the most pleased with is now the town turned out. Plus was able to get some switching in as well. 

 Plus the lines are pretty long.

A is 119.5 feet

B is 121.9 feet

C is 118.6 feet

D is 120.9 feet

 Total is 481.9 feet, and the current bench is around 320 feet.

 What I don't like

 1 Reach is way to long in the upper right hand connor

 2 Lost the mountain feel I want.

  See you all Friday.

            Ken

Ken: For Mountain feel, the best you'll get is when you actually do the scenery. Honest opinion: I'm not fond of the 4 wide being together the whole way around. Just not my fling. Plus, that's part of the width problem. Tomorrow, sinc eI don't see it happening tonihght witht he Turkey "sleeping pills" unless I convince myself to stay up for the flipside of Burn Notice, I want to try something on the one I've been, and I might be able to get some of that switching in there as well. (sicne it's easier for me to reflect changes on the one I have than try to duplicate yours. (Chck your Conversations, BTW.) We'll see. Don't forget too though, if you have elevated lines, they'll impede your reaching a lower swithing area.

EDIT: GAH!! Burn Notice has been replaced, I'll have to wait a week to catch them. Oh well. Ken, Merry Christmas!

Wat I basically did was instead of the loop I had at the bottom, the lower level now circles back 180* under the upper level, but is staggered out  6" so the peak of the loop sticks out between tqwo tunnels. (The bracket shaped thingies) Then it climbs over itself, drops back down under the upper level and a new switching area I've yet to design, and parrallels the tracks going into the yard where it again climbs, then cuts across a section of open-air roundhouse tracks adjacent to the roundhouse and loops around on a downgrade into the yard. May need a new location for the Grain though, and one pop-up may be required for emergency access, but I've removed the uckinder for the main part of the layout.  Tra La.

Might I have an Ice cream to go pwease? I see a period of reading or web working in my future. Preferably reading though,  

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Posted by AmanaMedic on Thursday, November 25, 2010 9:27 PM

Gooooooooooooooooood *burp!* Evening, jug of apple cider please, along with some crackers and cheese please...thank you.

CUDA KEN: A "Springer" Thanksgiving? Nah....you'd have to have Hubby and Boyfriend wrestlin' around in the mashed taters and gravy for THAT... Definitely sounds like...an "interesting" gathering.

Me? I lucked out this year. The in-laws' gathering was reduced to the FIL/MIL going to evil SIL's house. Everybody else is/was otherwise occupied. Sooooooooooooooo, the Wife says "we're doing OUR own Thanksgiving this year." WHOOOOOOOO-HOOOOOOOOOOO! Slept in quite late, didn't have to go anyplace, no annoying relatives to deal with. Now, had we gone to my parents' house last night, I would've found the disowned ex-cousin there with her boy toy. Odds are good, I would've ended up picking her up, carrying her into the bathroom, and administering multiple "swirlies" to flush the crap out from between her ears!

Yup, would've been an "incident."

Now, if we'd gone to the evil SIL's lair today... I would've had to endure yet another round of subtle and not-so-subtle "slams" from the BEEE-otch. But, she times 'em so THAT if I was to respond, I would be the one heard uttering un-pleasantries upon "number one daughter." Plus, there would've been her two bratty brats to contend with. Picture if you will, a Christmas morning. The Wife and I present gifts to said brats. Now...most kids would at least mumble a "thank you" right? Not these precious little darlings...no sir! Upon opening them, all we heard was "boring." And BERTA (the SIL) said/did nothing.

Nice 'eh?

So, instead of all THAT turmoil, we stayed put. I spent the bulk of the day performing major surgery on an MDC-Roundhouse ballast hopper. I got the thing in '86, decorated as it was for UP (MOW green). Sometime in the late 80s it was repainted to resemble an ex-RI car picked up by the CNW. But...it still just wasn't "right." The ends on the real ones are more angled. So................major surgery: cutting out the slope sheets, reducing the ends, much hacking/slicing/refabricating. To my surprise, the poor thing is actually...coming along nicely!  I'll try to get some pics of it sooner or later.

ROBBY P: Happy Birthday! 31? Geesh, I remember THAT like it was only 10 years ago...

 

'Spose I oughta go dig out the Christmas stuff...the Wife is one who thinks it must appear after dinner on Thanksgiving Day. Still need to find insulating pins for the Lionel track, will be trying the LHS in Cedar Rapids on Sunday. Failing THAT...I've found some on-line options.

A happy and SAFE rest-of-Thanksgiving Day/Night to one and all...happy and SAFE November 25th to those in places not recognizing the helladay.

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Thursday, November 25, 2010 9:18 PM

Good evening .... We had enough food to feed at least three sittings in an old RR dining car ... Two turkeys at 15 pounds each, five longds of potatos, stuffung, noodles, brcoli casserole, etc, etc .... % pies!... Not much left. It was a full house!.  .... BIL from Nashville could not be here. He manages a shopping mall, and the "black Friday" hours start in the evening of Thanksgiving. Some of the young familiy memebrs from Nashville who were here have some really big, self caused problems. Amazing stories.

Ken .... Layout plan looks good. If you are going to the Collinsville show, feel free to say "Hi" to Bill from Paducah who has tables of mostly railroad books. The name of his business is "Classic Trains and Ferraris". Unusual name I know. He drives a Ferrari, but not to train shows.

I hope each of you had a great day!

 

 

GARRY

HEARTLAND DIVISION, CB&Q RR

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Posted by cudaken on Thursday, November 25, 2010 7:44 PM

 Happy None Dried Out Turkey Day! (Daughters husband made the Turkey)Big Smile

 Well It was the Jerry Springer Thanks Givings this year at Cuda Ken House. Whistling No, there was no fighting or anything like that. I swear I don't understand my Daughter Relation with her husband! My Son In Law has to work Thanks Giving and works night, so he baked the turkey before he went to bed. My daughter brings over her BOYFRIEND instead. Chuck, my son in law, knows she has a boyfriend and his fine with her having a boyfriend and he knew she was bring him over? Just real odd.

 After a pretty good meal. Tiffy and Shady (the dogs) where on good behavior and where getting excited while Sue and I worked on the food. It not there first Thanks Giving, and knew what was coming! Dinner We feed them well, plenty of Turkey. With there age, more than likely there last one. Standing Shady's head is good foot higher than the dinning room table so see had a birds eye view. Tiff on the other hand had the worms eye view. We have a all glass dinning room table, so I can see Tiff looking at me sitting under my plate! Laugh

I came out to the garage and played with the track plan some more.

 While I like this, it won't be the final plan. Need to get rid of some of the yard so I have more walk way. After I included a Train Station, clearances is down to around a foot.

 What I am the most pleased with is now the town turned out. Plus was able to get some switching in as well. 

 Plus the lines are pretty long.

A is 119.5 feet

B is 121.9 feet

C is 118.6 feet

D is 120.9 feet

 Total is 481.9 feet, and the current bench is around 320 feet.

 What I don't like

 1 Reach is way to long in the upper right hand connor

 2 Lost the mountain feel I want.

 Vincent Guess you did not read all the Dinners post. Yes I got the car Monday and you should have the Auto Rack Friday.

  See you all Friday.

            Ken

I hate Rust

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