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Posted by NeO6874 on Sunday, September 26, 2010 2:25 PM

it's so the decal adheres completely to the item in question. 

 

The semi-gloss (or flat) finish paints are usually rough (not necessarily to the touch though) and the decal won't adhere as cleanly... also air will get trapped in the spaces.  overall, the decal will end up looking fuzzy rather than clean/crisp.

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Posted by JimRCGMO on Sunday, September 26, 2010 4:01 PM

Afternoon, Janie - I'll have a grilled cheese sandwich and a bowl of chili, with a RBF for dessert. Thanks!

Looks like a slow night in the Diner yesterday (or at least after I left).

Todd, if I had a few extra hundred$, I might consider a DSLR, but I'm afraid my tastes would get too pricey on me (having used medium format cameras back in the film days, grasshopper...). My (more or less) point and shoot Canon manages the focus okay most of the time, but I also check in the finder where the rectangle (that shows what it's focusing on) is, and if I need, I can reframe so it is on the main thing, slightly depress the shutter to see that the rectangle's on THAT, and then (without removing my finger any) reframe for composition. But I'll still have maybe 10-20 percent of the shots that I may do some sharpening in the computer. (My , anyway). Hope you get your w**k on your Mum's house done soon and can go catch up with the rest of your life.

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it's so the decal adheres completely to the item in question. 

The semi-gloss (or flat) finish paints are usually rough (not necessarily to the touch though) and the decal won't adhere as cleanly... also air will get trapped in the spaces.  overall, the decal will end up looking fuzzy rather than clean/crisp.

, what he said! And I'm betting Robby will confirm that you want all your decaling done before you start any weathering, too.

Yesterday was overall, pretty good for on-call. One phone call (info), and nothing through the night (well, until about 6:15 a.m. this morning ). Had one phone call a bit before lunch (for, of all things, checking with me if I thought that someone who had been having suicidal thoughts for several days and had a friend to drive them to the ER, should be told to go to the ER....Anyone wanna guess what I told 'em - politely, of course?) ("Uh, yes."). They said their protocol now was that they should run it past the on-call. THAT can get to be a real PITA when they start 'checking' with me around 11:30 in the evening and I'm trying to nap, before the client actually gets to the hospital, gets medically checked out and the ER Dr. then talks with the on-call shrink, and then they call to ask me to come in - maybe 2 hours later, that I could've been sleeping...). Ah, such fun!

Ordered some more 40' boxcars (Santa Fe) and a few figures (W-S) that I didn't have and I felt my layout would be incomplete without 'em.

Looking like we might get some rain today. It was cooler this morning, got down to about 50 F overnight, and only up today to mid-60's (F), before dropping off to mid-40's F tonight.Yep, fall is a'comin', all righty! Next, the leaves will change colors/colours (usually right before we get a good rainy day that takes down all the pretty leaves). Got out a long-sleeve shirt this morning for church - first one since way back at the end of winter.

I'll be tending to my (late) lunch and watching the switcher do its stuff.

 

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Jim in Cape GIrardeau

 

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Posted by wetidlerjr on Sunday, September 26, 2010 7:25 PM

I just dropped in for a cup of cocoa  and some Fig Newtons !

 

 

I brought some friends with me. 

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Sunday, September 26, 2010 7:39 PM

Good evening ..

Hmmmm ... Bill T ... You're really enjoying retirement. Watch out. You'll get Jim CG all riled up with that last photo.

Ray ....I like those photos. The PA trip was a good one I can tell.

Ken ... I saw your good pictures in WPF. The Santa Fe "alligator" is a mdel I definately would have purchased if I was still doing much Santa Fe modeling. I noticed the CB&Q covered hopper in your train.

Here's a picture of an Amtrak unit in Denver.

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Posted by nik .n on Sunday, September 26, 2010 9:10 PM

A Mt. Dew Throwback and a ham sangwich , Chloe.

 

Hi all!

The Athern BB SD40-2 came yesterday, and I immediately went to work oiling bearings and gears, and making the BLI shell fit. I'll post pics of my efforts in the next WPF.

 

On the family front, not much. Dads still getting laid off on a few weeks, and he's still looking for a job.

SoapBox  economy.

 

Happy 'late' birthday, Galaxy.

 

See yall later!

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Posted by howmus on Sunday, September 26, 2010 9:23 PM

Evenin' folks!

Flo just a decaf for me.  I'll be in the back with Bill and his friends.....WinkWink

Started w*rk on a project that I hope to use for the Merit Award I need to finish the Civil Engineer Certificate for the NMRA.  Got the frame finished tonight and realized the thing is too shallow for the tortoise machines to operate the turnouts.....Grumpy  I may just add some short "legs" to it so everything will fit.  It will have a turnout, a crossover, and a 19° crossing all scratch built using the Fast Tracks jigs.  I hope to have it done to be judged at the October Meet in a month.

How about some coal cars?

Later!

73

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Posted by TMarsh on Sunday, September 26, 2010 9:45 PM

Evening. Mt Dew Throwback please. Not quite as sweet as the HFCS ones. Pretty tastey.

Jim- Unfortunately, I can't see the screen well enough to see if the picture or at least the part I need/want is in focus until I get the thing loaded on the computer and use a bigger screen. For some reason using tyhe view finder, I can.

Speaking of cameras. I stopped by the Walmart before going to Mom's apartment to get the model numbers for the two cameras I was looking at so I could come home and research on the net which one I wanted. Brenda was off today as the rain we had last night kept the farmers from the fields today so she help out at the house then we went to see Mom. Some fella asked if he could answer any questions on the digital cameras. I looked at him and said, "well if all you can do is read the sign...., no". Said he works for Kodak not Walmart and knows quite a bit about digital cameras. I told him I was torn between the Nikkon and the Rebel. And was looking for a reason to push me in one direction or the other. He said, "actually, both are really good cameras and there isn't much of a difference between the two models other than control locations and anyone who would say different is trying to sell you that camera. I'm not" he said. "I work for Kodak." He then began telling me all this stuff about the two some of which I had to pull a Willie Nelson on him (smile and nod as if I knew what he was talking about) Then I spotted the difference, looks like Nikkon wins. It has a 3 inch screen while the Canon has a 2.5 inch. SO..... "oh" he says, "there is one difference. The Canon has live view screen capabilities if you want. This Nikkon doesn't" I start to think how the screen doesn't matter to me, but then I think again. (The thing that always gets me in trouble). Sometimes that may come in handy. I know it has on Brenda's, I may not know if it's in focus, but I at least can tell if it's in the shot over my head. SOLD! Canon Rebel it is. Broke into the old envelope I've been saving up in and shelled it out. I took it with me just in case. Hey, I may have gotten there and there would be only one left. And there was. Got the last one. Til Tuesday anyway.

Besides, if I have any questions, I can just slide on over Ray's way and ask away. (chuckle) had to throw Ray into the conversation with the dude when he said the cameras were great entry level unuits. I said I have this friend who has one, thinks it's great and takes absolutley fantastic pictures with it. He said they do take great pictures  but just not like some of the better units. Of course they cost considerably more. I said I was totally happy with my Pentax K1000. I'm sure this wiill do things I'll never do. He said" Ah the Pentax K1000. The camera that wouldn't die. Did you know they stopped producing that camera like a dozen times? But kept having to bring it back by popular demand. Probably the best camera made and I'm, with Kodak. They make a digital version of it, great pixel count too have you thought about that?" I told him yes I wanted that but....yada yada yada. (see earlier post)

Welp bent your ear long enough if you're still with me. Can't blame you if you decided to go back and visit with Bill's Angels.  Best get to snoozing. The counter tops arrive tomorrow at 8:30. So I have to be at Mom's pror to that. Then back to the Church for bookwork sometime before the bank closes.

PFTIN    

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Posted by AmanaMedic on Sunday, September 26, 2010 10:17 PM

Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood, Oh My Goodness! BILL sure knows how to pick 'em!, Evening... RBF and a plate of fries please 'n thank-you.

GARRY: I'm liking your WPF shot...THAT is my favorite shot of all the ones you've posted. Not sure why, but I'm liking it.

Here's hoping the birthday boys had good days, I see nothing left of the cakes but crumbs. They sure looked tasty from the take-out window this weekend.

RAY: Awesome bridge shots!

TODD: Sounds like Mr. Kodak gave you good advice. I'm a Nikon fan...but you can't go wrong with a Rebel. Heck, the "big" newspapers seem to be mostly Canon around here. What little I know about 'em, the controls are the opposite of a Nikon... The "live view" is nice feature, my D-90 has it, but I've never used it. Keep in mind, it could suck the battery down quicker, at least Nikon tells me THAT is a risk with mine.

K-1000?

I miss mine... I sold it several years ago, and really wish I hadn't. I swear you could drive a nail with THAT thing and still get a good picture! Geesh! Now I'm getting all "misty" about "the good old days:" Kodak Plus-x, Tri-X, and T-Max black and white films, Dektol, HC-110, and D-76 developers, fixer solutions, "pushing" film to get the shot... my old well-worn Kodak "cookbook" of darkroom chemistry formulations... *sigh* Extar 25, Ektapress... the many versions of good 'ol Kodak GOLD... *bigger sigh* Digital has made my life infinitely easier...but I still miss FILM.

I've still got my Nikon FM-2 with MD-12 motordrive sitting on the shelf above the 'pooter. Neat thing about Nikon, I can use my newest lens on it, and use whatever lenses for it I still have on the D-90.

The '90 will earn me some more money this week as I line-up an interview with a new Pastor in Ely, shoot high school volleyball on Tuesday evening, and yet another Football Friday Nite. I've already got three articles for THAT THAT I need to finish and package... Included will be the very rainy car show with THE BATMOBILE! One of only five in existence, it's the real deal! I'll have to tack up a pic or two of it one of these days.

Might get some RR time in this week, might even get the yard mowed again... Hmmm, I probably oughta do THAT first, then the RR stuff. As it is, today I slapped more parts on the ex-ROCK boxcar, and have begun the process of trying to ruin all my careful handy-w**k with weathering... If you feel so inclined, please light a candle for me THAT I don't botch this one too badly! Pictures of it one of these days if it isn't too much of a disappointment!

A good night to all (good morning to Ulrich), and a good week to all...

Chris

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Posted by howmus on Sunday, September 26, 2010 10:18 PM

Hey Todd......

You will love the "Live View".  THAT is how I get good shots from angles where I can't get my eye up to eye piece to see what I am shooting.  Mine only has that in Manual Mode (possibly some of the other manual type modes).  That is the one feature I like and use the most for hobby photos.  It can zoom in on a specific spot in the photo 5x and 10x to get it perfectly focused at that spot. Then set it back out check to see you have the photo framed the way you want, and then take the picture.

Oh the Kodak Guy at the store is right.  The Digital Rebel is a High End Consumer Camera/Low End Professional Camera. It is an entry level EOS DSLR.  I know several professionals THAT use them in their arsenal of cameras.  It isn't quite as good as this one though.... Canon EOS - Mark III  It is a bit more affordable though....SurpriseSmile, Wink & Grin

Later!

73

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Monday, September 27, 2010 5:32 AM

GOOD MORNING!!!!!

Now that everyone--there are people in here, right?--are awake, how be ye? I'm all awake and energetic this morning. Audrey and I took a morning walk--yeah, I know, can't see much when it is still dark outsideWhistling--but we done it anyways.

Welb, today is going to be getting some w**k done on the layout day as tomorrow morning I'll be having my heart wall examined to accertain whether my heart can take the implant, or, whether we try another thing altogether---Whistling

Anyhoooo--Chloe, I'll just have a breakfast bagel and a coffee please--I'll be at the RC waiting to see who else shows up this fine morningHeadphones

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Posted by Wisconsin Railfan on Monday, September 27, 2010 6:15 AM

Good Morning Folks!

Just a cup of coffee please!

Hope everyone had a great weekend!

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Posted by LSWrr on Monday, September 27, 2010 7:01 AM

Good Morning,

Well I survived my trip to Michigan; I had some time to kill and visited Great Lakes Hobby on Van *** Road. Wow, 10,000 sqft hobby store.  I picked up some cool stuff; PRR gondola with steel loads, Port Huron & Detroit box car, and a couple other items.  The prices were way below what my LHS typically charges.  They also had several used items at a fair price ($5 to $8).  My next trip will be in November for my Son’s Birthday.  Maybe on or about the 12th.


Robby, well I would like to help you out a little with your business adventure. If you could shoot me an email at lswrr@ameritech.net so we can chat about me sending you a car to be weathered, I’ll pay for it.


Ken, it seems the buttons on the DT throttles stop sticking after you get them broke in a little.  Until then just make sure you push on it straight down.


Barry and Galaxy; happy belated birthday!


Jeff, I agree the Duracell brand is top shelf!  I have 4 (10 year old) AA Duracell rechargeable batteries for my digital camera. They last for days and charge up quick.  I have bought the green and white rechargeable batteries from Harbor Freight and they are a close second in durability.


Barry, good luck at the doctors, I hope everything works out.


NeO6874, welcome to the diner (must have missed your grand entrance), Euclid, OH here.


North East Rail modeler, welcome to the diner!

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Posted by Robby P. on Monday, September 27, 2010 7:24 AM

 Good rainy morning.   Its suppose to rain for the next two days!!

 Did the math yesterday, and I have to do three cars a week to have them ready for the show!!!!!!!   I guess you know where I will be!!!

 Oh, no  more stink bugs.....So I won't be bringing them into the "diner" anymore Whistling.

 Not much planned other than getting some cars ready. 

 *Question*   I was going to make a banner for the show, but Jessica came up with the idea of using a chalk board.  Maybe a 3x5 size.   I like the idea of using it, since I will be giving demonstrations.  Plus use can change the look/letters easier.   Do you guys think that would be a neat/different idea?

 I will pop back in later.

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Posted by TMarsh on Monday, September 27, 2010 7:26 AM

Good Morning! Coffee please. Gotta run this morning. Counter top is to be delivered at 0830 CDT and ya’ll know how I have a tendency to run late.

Just wanted to make a few quick points. (pointes to the picture board, the RC, corner booth and the kitchen door)

Ray- OH! You’ve made my ears perk up when you said you can zoom in the live view to see if a prt of the photo is in focus. Now that just might be the little feature I need. I shall find out how to do that. Yes I did think of the advantages of live view when it came to MRR pictures. Setting the camera down and all.

One thing I have noticed. The screen is located such that it will require frequent if not constant cleaning of snoot prints.

Chris- I hear you on the advantages of digital. I’m not all that much of a photographer, but I do prefer a SLR. The trusty K1000 has served me well for what, 30 years now and is still waiting for more. And that was all the camera I needed, so though by comparison, the Rebel and the Nikon are “entry level” cameras, their capabilities are rather past my level of knowledge, experience, and quite frankly I probably will not use half of what it can do. As much as I hate too, I’ll have to admit the digital advantages make processing film….well, let’s face it… expensive and time consuming. I can hang around the Walmart for an hour or so next time I’m there, or I can just zip into my office and load the pictures on the computer in just a minute and be gone again.

Gee I can’t believe I just said something like that.

Y’all have a Great Day now ya hear?!!!

EDIT: Great! Now if I'm ever up there, I'll never know where this hobby shop Lee speaks of is. "Abby something."

 

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Posted by cudaken on Monday, September 27, 2010 7:28 AM

 Mourning Madison IN

 Flo, I will take a BLT and some dew if you don't mind.

 Not sure what the temperature is out side, but it is pretty cool here here in the Man Cave / Train Room / Garage this mourning. Hard to believe it is time to fire up the gas heater.

 Garry The CB&Q Hopper is one of three of the Accurail Fallen Flag cars I built last month. The Alligator is the only sound Diesel I have that does not get on my nerve's. I picked it up on sale for $99.99 from Factory Direct Trains a few years ago.

 Far as the Bob Villa Project's, it did not go as planed. I bought some Mill Work to put over the kitchen sink, that part went good. I was not happy with the way the Olympia paint covered the Luna when I was painting it. It took back gallon of it I had never opened and exchanged it for a gallon of Valspar Ultra Premium for $30.00 for a gallon. It covers no better than the Olympia that was $13.42 a gallon. 

 From there TV AD's, they talk about how great this stuff covers. I have two coats on the Mill work and it looks like it is going to take 3 coats. Am I wrong on my thinking that it should cover in 1 coat?  

 See you all for lunch, Ken  

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Posted by TMarsh on Monday, September 27, 2010 7:32 AM

Robby- I think it's a great idea, but I'd lean toward a grease pencil board instead. I can't think of what they are really call.... dry erase  board (snaps fingers), that's it. Pretty colored pens, easy to see with the white board. You can also use it around the house when the show is over to leave little notes and grocery lists and such. Of course, downside is, the wife can leave little RobbyDo lists also.

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Posted by TMarsh on Monday, September 27, 2010 7:48 AM

cudaken

  Valspar Ultra Premium for $30.00 for a gallon. It covers no better than the Olympia that was $13.42 a gallon. 

BINGO! Man I wish I knew you were going to do that. But, I might have kept my mouth shut thinking maybe it's a Springfield thing. Also, NEVER assume when you take a paint code to them for a certain color of paint, and I know you are familiar with the paint mixing pigment drip,shade,thing, that using the same paint code, such as Pittsburgh P168 Antique White, that the pigments will be the same. I know all about the inconsistancies, inconcsistencies....differences in the shades from when you get one galloan to the next and the computers have really made that a lot better than the guy measuring the pigments, but I would think at least the PIGMENTS would be the same. ALWAYS take the sticker with you even when you are going back to the same place and using the same paint and the same computer and the same........... Experienced the hard way. $100 a bucket. EVERY color except a white base is a custom color. Non returnable. Bang Head

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Posted by howmus on Monday, September 27, 2010 9:27 AM

Good Morning Diners!

Zoe, I'll have a breakfast bagel with bacon and cheese and a cup of dark roast coffee in a FGLK mug.  I'll go see what the crowd is doing in the back for a while.  Pigments discussion huh?  Hmmmmm.........  You sure THAT Bill didn't show up with more of his friends???

Barry, best wishes for you with the doctor's appointment tomorrow.  I'll keep you in my prayers!

Todd, what I love the most about the DSLR cameras is being able to choose which lens I want to use and the ability to manual focus.  In autofocus you get this all too often:

The trees in the foreground were what the camera decided every time was supposed to be in focus.  The plane I was trying to shoot is out of focus. My febble mind forgot I could use manual focus.....  Mind you the next shot is under completely different circumstances, but notice the leaves in the foreground are mildly out of focus, but the bridge is in focus.  Being able to control the f-stop is also a huge advantage to get the depth of field for a shot.

You are going to love the new toy!

Have any of you used the Hump Yard Purveyance turnout throws?  I'm thinking of getting some for the demo board I am making for the Civil Merit Award....

Catch you all later.

73

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Posted by AmanaMedic on Monday, September 27, 2010 11:14 AM

Goooooooooooooooooooood Mornin', bucket of coffee...

TODD: Ya know, after I got all "misty" about missing film, all those wonderful darkroom chemicals, etc., etc., etc. I looked through my black and white negatives. My goodness... some were horribly over-developed, others under-developed. A multitude of exposure errors, shots THAT were nuked-out by goofing up with the flash, etc.,etc., etc.

I then remembered all the times I vowed and swore I was gonna take all my photo equipment and throw it in the nearest dumpster, toss in a can of gasoline, and have a Nikon-roast; then go sign up for truck driver school or something...

I gave my little D-90 a loving little pat on her flash shoe cover...

RAY: Ah, the wonders of the smart camera trying to tell you where the focus oughta be...  I tend to use continuous focus for sports, and once I get the "target acquired," the camera generally does a good job for me. I used to (by necessity) shoot everything with manual focus. Now...I do so rarely. I just don't trust my eyes like I used to, is part of it. The other? I remember how irritating it was trying to manual focus on volleyball players, baseball, softball, etc., etc., etc. I trust the '90 more...but like Reagan, I "trust, but verify." Volleyball is the worst, the camera wants to focus on the net, I want to focus on the girl behind the net. THAT often turns into a "whack-a-mole" thing, waiting for the head to pop up above the net.

When I've got a more "static environment," like your neat girder bridge shot, I'll fiddle around more with the manual settings. But, when the leading running back in the state is jukin', and rushin', and haulin' ball...I've all but got to just turn it over to the camera. If it goes to crap...I re-adjust, and try again on the next drive. My biggest snag is often getting a high enough shutter speed to stop the action. "High-1" with Noise Reduction set to "high" has become my best friend, and it isn't fast enough sometimes. The obvious answer is, of course a faster lens...maybe next year, after the body/lens combo I've got is paid off.

TODD: "Snoot prints." Mine has a snap-on, mostly clear cover to keep snoot prints off the big screen...and avoid scratching THAT screen...

CUDAKEN: "One coat coverage."  HUMPF! I've yet to see ANY paint claiming "one coat coverage" actually deliver on THAT promise. Loving Wife's art studio is painted "Ruby Lips," a deep, dark red. One coat??? Oh no SIR! No way, no-how.

SIX coats it took...SIX.  The dark green (like CNW green) I'm using in my RR room requires four coats for best coverage...and it doesn't seem to make any difference if it is going over primer or not.

I hate paint.

Chris

 

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Posted by cudaken on Monday, September 27, 2010 11:35 AM

 Flo, A BLT to go and a Dew Please.

 Todd, the paint is not mixed, it is straight off the shelf white.  Maye that is the problem, they assume there would be pigments added to the paint. Guy at the paint counter did not strike me at being overly smart. Must have been down from Springfield IL.Smile, Wink & Grin He even told me the wrong prices.

 Chris, I used the same paint in a Very Dark Brown and did get one coat coverage. That was why I paid the $30.00 a gallon for the stuff.

 Other thing I hate about it, it is leaving brush marks and I am using a Sponge Brush! I am OK with the marks on the base board and the Mill work that will go across the ceiling. Lowe's has a video about how to paint Kitchen Cabinets which is the next job. It said that if I use this paint and sponge brush there would be no brush marks.

 I wonder if my Wagner Air Sprayer will still work? Have not used it for 17 years, but I did clean it good.

                  Ken

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Posted by howmus on Monday, September 27, 2010 12:28 PM

Afternoon folks!

Zoe, a cheeseburger and fries along with a Dr. Pepper would hit the spot for lunch today.

AmanaMedic

RAY: Ah, the wonders of the smart camera trying to tell you where the focus oughta be...  I tend to use continuous focus for sports, and once I get the "target acquired," the camera generally does a good job for me. I used to (by necessity) shoot everything with manual focus. Now...I do so rarely. I just don't trust my eyes like I used to, is part of it. The other? I remember how irritating it was trying to manual focus on volleyball players, baseball, softball, etc., etc., etc. I trust the '90 more...but like Reagan, I "trust, but verify." Volleyball is the worst, the camera wants to focus on the net, I want to focus on the girl behind the net. THAT often turns into a "whack-a-mole" thing, waiting for the head to pop up above the net.

When I've got a more "static environment," like your neat girder bridge shot, I'll fiddle around more with the manual settings. But, when the leading running back in the state is jukin', and rushin', and haulin' ball...I've all but got to just turn it over to the camera. If it goes to crap...I re-adjust, and try again on the next drive. My biggest snag is often getting a high enough shutter speed to stop the action. "High-1" with Noise Reduction set to "high" has become my best friend, and it isn't fast enough sometimes. The obvious answer is, of course a faster lens...maybe next year, after the body/lens combo I've got is paid off.

Chris, I do exactly the same thing when trying to get decent shots of moving targets.  I sometimes have to move the camera around until I can get the focal point I want, hold the shutter half way down and wait for what I hope will give me what I am looking for.....  Big difference is, I am not doing it for a profession......  I always tell people when I do get a good shot THAT 90% of it is just being in the right place at the right time (and it does help having good equipment).  Hobby work is when I really use all the manual settings, and I am still learning

Todd....  Snoot prints?  Well if you just leave them there, if the camera gets stolen, you will have a way of proving it belongs to you....... Nah!  I just wipe it down with some lens cleaner now and then.

Have to get back to w*rk!

73

Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO

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Posted by sleeper33 on Monday, September 27, 2010 12:28 PM

evening all just a tea to go please girls as still in work. hope all is well with everyone. workin my fingers to the bone as u can see lol. as for modelling i havnt got a layout at mo but might be moving soon so who knows whats gonna happen. oh well must dash catch u all later

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Posted by AmanaMedic on Monday, September 27, 2010 1:17 PM

howmus
I always tell people when I do get a good shot THAT 90% of it is just being in the right place at the right time (and it does help having good equipment). and I am still learning!

AMEN!!!!! Amen, amen, AMEN!!!!!!

I've also been known to say THAT "even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in awhile..."Whistling

Chance DOES tend to favor the prepared, but yeah...a lot of it seems to come down to being in the right place, at the right time, and hitting the button at the right time too! Of course, I've also been "in the right place," at "the right time," and THE play of the game turned out too blurry to use...and with the heads chopped off (two guys going up in the air for a pass, high drama, game-changer stuff).

Bang HeadBang HeadBang HeadBang Head

Then, there is the total fluke shot...

...THAT wins 1st place in a newspaper photo contest. Confused With objects much closer than they appeared in the lens...I cranked the lens to full wide-angle and hit the button while literally jumping out of the way. A combat infantryman would call it "spray and pray" shooting.

Back at it, I "should" get some of the weekend's stuff put together today...so I won't have to deal with it later. Yup...THAT would be the "smart" and/or "responsible" thing to do.

 

I want to play with my trains.

Chris

 

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Posted by cudaken on Monday, September 27, 2010 1:52 PM

 Flow, how about a Beer while I am waiting for the paint to dry. Laugh

 It is OFFICIAL, THIS PAINT SUCK'S LIKE A PANCAKE MOTOR LIFE LIKE ENGINE! 

 I am painting the cabinets that are part of the window that looks into the family room. They are all ready white and the paint still will not cover! Tuesday I am taking it back and get a refund! If I am going to have to go over the cabinets two or three times, it is going to be with $13.00 a gallon paint, not $30.00 a gallon of paint!

 And to top it all off, the Mill Work does not fit right! Seems the ceiling over the sink as a small bow to it! Bang Head It is not God Awful and most people would never notices it, but it bugs me!

 Little Poll

 1 Sand the wood so there is a bow?

 2 Sand the plaster and make the ceiling straight?

 Well, time to give it another coat.

          Ken            

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Posted by Robby P. on Monday, September 27, 2010 2:33 PM

 I guess I will take a Beer and hang out with Ken.

 I was lifting weights this morning, and pulled something in my side.   Not that the weight was heavy but I twisted to put the bar on, rather than putting it on the right way Confused.    I did get a Railbox done for the show.

 Todd.......I was also thinking about the "erase board".  Jessica said she seen some big ones at Sams Club yesterday.   I will keep a look out and see what I can find.

 Ken...........I know what you mean as far as paint.  We bought some "one coat" and it took two or three coats!!!!!!!!!!!   I also buy the cheaper paint as it does just as good.  If I was you I would sand the wood.  The ceiling would be hard to sand.  Reaching up, what if you can get it to sand good, etc....

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Posted by cudaken on Monday, September 27, 2010 3:29 PM

Robby P.
I guess I will take a Beer and hang out with Ken.

 Flo, pitcher for me and Robby P!

 Charlie I am using the + button a lot now. This is going sound dumb, but I thought the + button was only used to remotely to turn track power on and off. Did not remember I could control engine speed with it. I now use it most of the time to change engine speed.  I like it better than changing the CV's for a slow start.  

 I sure would get more done if the Dinner did not have such great people and

 Speaking of Great People, where is Jeffery today?

               Ken

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Posted by the North East Rail Modeler on Monday, September 27, 2010 3:34 PM

cudaken

 And to top it all off, the Mill Work does not fit right! Seems the ceiling over the sink as a small bow to it! Bang Head It is not God Awful and most people would never notices it, but it bugs me!

 Little Poll

 1 Sand the wood so there is a bow?

 2 Sand the plaster and make the ceiling straight?

 Well, time to give it another coat.

          Ken            

Well, it depends: how hard do you want to make it?

If you want to make the job harder (and longer), but have a "trued" celing, then sand the celing.

But, if you want it easier (and finish sooner), then sand the wood, and make a bow in it.

 Just be warned, check the fit very often. It's easy to remove a scootch more, but it's near impossible to put that scootch back on.

On my front, I'm still trying to dry out from a bad band of rainstorms that came through North East Florida earlier. (One of my newly wethered boxcars played submarine through it. I couldn't get it in time)

I still don't have a layout, but I've been bidding my time by working on a scratch-built EMD NW/2 switcher, as seen in the drawings in the December 1979 issue of the Model Railroader.

I've been making little progress on it, using For Sale signs for my styrene sheets. I still got a few details to add to the interior, and then I can start painting.

Man, I'm cheep. Using For Sale signs for scratch-building, and I salvaged the motor and trucks from a Life-Like locomotive I got from a yardsale (they still work, too) .  (What? They work, and they are cheep, although installing a decoder for the Life-like motor will be a bad idea...)

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Posted by Packers#1 on Monday, September 27, 2010 4:55 PM

Hey folks, just popping in here. Nothing for me.

Well, school today was, well, school. Got a writing portfolio dropped on me as the project we have to do in english for the crucible. LORD I'm sick of the salem witch trials. Fortunately there's a few things worth two items in it, one of which is creating a website for the Salem Witch Trials. and if I do that, I can write my research paper on them as well and kill three birds with one stone.

Well, thought I'd tack these pics up. They're from our rugby game last spring against irmo. I got them off our facebook page. I'm #4, with the scrum cap in three of them, under armor cleats in all four.

Trying to make a flying tackle (barely missed and then he juked the other player and scored a try):

This is my favorite pic, I love my face in this

going for the tackle

Halftime

Sawyer Berry

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Monday, September 27, 2010 6:42 PM

I won't be on long. Even though I got some rest my body is still kicking my butt. I'm tired and my eye sight is fried. Everything on the screen is a fuzzy blur yet 4 feet and further away is clear. Been trying to do too much reading and I'm paying the price. I just have to wait for it to clear.

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Posted by howmus on Monday, September 27, 2010 7:31 PM

Evenin' folks!

Flo, just a decafe and maybe........ one of those brownies over there with some chocolate syrup and a scoop of vanilla ice cream..... I'll be in the back with those guys sharing photos.

Chris!!!  Oh WOW!  What a fantastic shot!  I can see why it won.  THAT one had to be a bit of knowledge and ability with a whole lot of luck!

Sawyer, you must be the mean looking dude with the complete concentration on the game!  I bet you are a tough opponent.  Nice photos.  Who took them?

Jeffrey, hope your sight gets back to normal (whatever THAT is?) soon.

I have been w*rking on the framing for the unit THAT will be judged for a merit award. It is 2' X 4'.  Got the sides put together, sanded, Used the router to make a nice curved edge on top, and then stained it.  I also cut out the plywood base for the scene and made sure it fit.  There will be a small lip above the plywood to keep cars (loco actually) from running off the board....  Here are a few quick photos.  You can see the plywood base leaning against the dryer in the first shot.

And a close up up the stained finish.  It will be completed with a few coats of varnish.

This guy has been following me around all day....  Making sure I don't leave again I think.  (No he doesn't get anywhere near the layout.....!)

Later!

73

 

 

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