If someone in the NMRA wants to submit it, be my guest. I'm not joining any more groups now or in the future.
Have fun with your trains
GUYS (and GIRLS!)
The new logo is a disaster waiting to happen! It looks like a "b**b" and it was designed by a "b**b"!
The point is very clear. Many, many people will misinterpret it and most of the others won't have a clue.
You can argue the merits of the new design for as long and as loud as you want but ANY logo that is ambiguous is a bad logo. It is clearly open to misinterpretation. Model railroaders have had more than their share of fun poked at them just for participating in the hobby. Jay Leno did it to Rod Stewart. Why set ourselves up for a fall?!?
I'll even go so far as to put my money where my mouth is. If the NMRA rethinks the new logo and comes up with a better one then I will rejoin the organization. Don't ask why I quit the first time - that is a whole other topic.
Dave
I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!
hon30critter GUYS (and GIRLS!) The new logo is a disaster waiting to happen! It looks like a "b**b" and it was designed by a "b**b"! The point is very clear. Many, many people will misinterpret it and most of the others won't have a clue. You can argue the merits of the new design for as long and as loud as you want but ANY logo that is ambiguous is a bad logo. It is clearly open to misinterpretation. Model railroaders have had more than their share of fun poked at them just for participating in the hobby. Jay Leno did it to Rod Stewart. Why set ourselves up for a fall?!? I'll even go so far as to put my money where my mouth is. If the NMRA rethinks the new logo and comes up with a better one then I will rejoin the organization. Don't ask why I quit the first time - that is a whole other topic. Dave
So Dave,
Ummm... why did you quit the first time..??
John
So it seems that just because some one made a joke about some one else's hobby it means we cant be proud of it all. Hell Leno was making jokes about himself when his steam powered car broke down on him and then when it caught fire while he was trying to get it going again. If ya cant take a joke then you need to relax a little... really.
Now the logo as it shows is a miserable creation. But with a couple of extra lines it looks really nice. And since the person who made the modifications has given premission here in writing for another to submit it then lets see about submitting it. My writing skills are not great so I dont feel I can present a strong enough letter.
Massey
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Ok John
The main reason I decided to not renew my membership in the NMRA was the tone of a significant number of the letters to the editor. During my subscription period (2 years) there seemed to be a lot of writers whose comments had a rather nasty attitude towards things written by other writers or towards articles in the magazine. Several letters definately had a negative "I'm right - your wrong and if you aren't doing it my way you don't know what you are doing" overtone. The fact that the NMRA editors decided to publish these types of letters turned me off the organization.
Please understand that I do not have a problem with anyone who models in accurate detail. I also fully support the common theme of these forums which is to help other model railroaders. My point is that, as is almost always the case in these forums, the help should be offered in a positive and supportive tone.
Having said that, some of you will note that the tone of my previous post wasn't particularly positve. I chose my words to try to convey the point that the new logo is very poorly designed. Unlike having the wrong bell on your steamer or the wrong air horns on your diesel the logo mistake will have a direct negative impact on the perception of the hobby by a significant portion of the general public. Is that what the NMRA wants? I sincerely doubt it.
I can only hope the the NMRA gets around to re-redesigning their logo and free up the current one for my own HO scale short line.
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Hi Massey
I did not mean to imply that we can't be proud of the hobby. I certainly am! And, yes I know that Jay Leno's ribbing of Rod Stewart was all done in good fun.
I was trying to make the point that the new NMRA logo may do more harm than good.
A logo is just that - a logo. Ask 2 people and you get three opinions on its appeal. Whether the NMRA´s ne logo is "improved" lies in the eyes of the beholder.
This is an old thread which got resurrected, but I can hardly detect any new arguments. Let´s close the book on it now.