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Posted by Cederstrand on Saturday, May 29, 2010 8:17 AM

Coffee in a  SOUTHERN  mug, please. 

***Todd, she still isn't feeling right and her BP is high. She took all her BP meds. It is a bit concerning.

Loggers are back at it this morning. Starting to look like pasture lad already, except for the stumps that we will have to have removed.

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Posted by howmus on Saturday, May 29, 2010 8:47 AM

Mornin' everyone!

Zoe I'll have a short stack of blueberry pancakes with NYS Maple Syrup and a pot of dark roast coffee in a R&GV RR Museum Mug please and Thank You!

After a bit of indigestion from what ever it was I ate last night.  I managed to get a good nights sleep.  Now I will be heading out to the museum to cut firewood today.  

Ulrich, the other old guy in THAT photo is some old curmudgeon that "plays with Trains" I think.  His Arthritis makes him move SLOW at times, and he volunteers at a Railroad Musuem.  Likes to ride around in old diseasals sometimes with his hearing aids turned off.

Can't think of his name........  May be early "what's his name disease"............

Rob, hope your wife gets to feeling better and they find out why the BP is staying high.  She is in my prayers.

Well best get moving if I am going to get out to the museum today.

Later!

73

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Posted by Packers#1 on Saturday, May 29, 2010 10:57 AM
Ulrich, thanks! Well, trackwork on the new section has been started. I have all the new switches connected to the old track, so all that's left is wiring and laying out the new spurs.

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Posted by galaxy on Saturday, May 29, 2010 3:54 PM

HI Guys! good evening!

BBQ chicken/cole slaw and pot salad {short for POTATO} mm mmm. Lucky we have a BBQ pit house nearby with delicious delights like that!  Dinner

We slept in too late to real go and enjoy Steamtown...if you don't get there at teh start you may miss out on parking and miss the bringing of the trains out of the roundhouse on the turntable and the prep for the day's running.

Ao we opted to go to Corning {NY} to the "glass festival" WHat a load of bunk. It wasn't much to see. Corning was hoping that it would bring in $$$ missed by hte PGA Tour stop that Corning INC. used to sponsor, but cut sponsorship due to the economy.

WE stopped at Lantz's Hobby shop { AKA wholesaletrains.com} in Horseheads and I picked up a few things. A Bachmann DCC OnBoard GP7 decorated in Chessie/B&O scheme. Not sure if the Chessie ever had old GP7's floating around that they painted that way or not in true life, but I liked it and at $47 was hard to pass up. ALong with it I got a Atlas Trainmaster Chessie decorated Cupola caboose to go with teh GP7 for $9. ANd lastly I found a Roundhouse wood sided 36' box car in red with C&O markings for $11. If I do some due diligence and find out no way that even a 40 year in-service wood sided would have been in  C&O's fleet,I can always repaint it to something else to run with other old tyme fleet.. Again, not sure if C&O had any wood sided cars still floating around or not when C&O came into being and is accurately, but I will run it with my new GP7 and caboose around the xmas tree for fun!. There were a few other things I saw, but thought the $70 some I spent was enough for now. That was easy as we are saving the $$ on the van's computer, but I can;t spend ALL that savings on trains LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. WIsh I could.

I see not so many have stopped by the diner yet today, so I bet everyone is busy and will stop in tonight for sure.

Prays for those in need.

have a good one

 

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Posted by howmus on Saturday, May 29, 2010 4:47 PM

Afternoon all!

Flo I'll have one of those RBFs to tide me over to dinner.  I think the sugar may be just a bit low anyway after w*rking out in the sun for a few hours cutting loges at the Museum.I got one very large tree trunck sawed up into about 12" rounds.  they need to be small so they can lie in the old pot bellied stove in the Depot.  If they use longer ones, they end up leaning on the sides and ultimately crack the cast iron stove (they had it happen a few years back).  Then the saw decided not to run.....  when I did get it going again, the brake was on and the saw wouldn't work....  Took it apart and found it wasn't assembled right, got it back together, and the saw didn't want to run.  When I got it going again, it was low on power and not biting into the wood....  Already managed to dull a chain!  Must have hit some small stones in the mud on the side of the log.  I think part of the problem is that I am using some old gas that has been setting in the shed since last year.  So, I gave up for the day and came home.  I'll get new gas (with the proper oil mix), put a new chain on, and see how she runs.

Galaxy, sounds like a good haul!  BTW I got my Masters in Education at a college located at the other end of the Horse........ (Old local Elmira/Horseheads story from the 1930s....)  If Lantz's Hobby Shop was around back in the 1970s, I may have bought some "n" scale stuff there.  I taught in Waverly, NY for 11 years.

Hope all of you are having a great Memorial Day Weekend.  Do remember why it is celebrated.....

73

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Posted by AmanaMedic on Saturday, May 29, 2010 5:18 PM

galaxy
Not sure if the Chessie ever had old GP7's floating around that they painted that way or not in true life, but I liked it and at $47 was hard to pass up.

Hey GALAXY, I think you done did good:

 

Good afternoon...  bucket of ice water, and lactated ringers solution IV set-up please 'n thank-you...

Did the mowing today...now we be in recovery mode!

I'll be over in the booth by the air conditioner...

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Posted by Cederstrand on Saturday, May 29, 2010 5:18 PM

Coffee refill, please.

***Galaxy, Congrats on the acquisitions. If they only took Paypal, I might buy some stuff from them.

***Chris, neat pics. That loco has been around the block a few times, or more like back and forth along side the block a few thousand times.  

Loggers finished early today. We can't get over how much additional pasture it looks like with most of the trees now removed.

Been thinking of getting an HO scale steamer with sound (for the wife), just to run one. Might help me decide on how much time and potential additional space to devote to the wife's layout and how much for my still unbuilt N scale layout.Whistling Can't abandon N though, but might expand the wife's HO layout. Could just add a lower shelf under my N shelf for her HO expansion.Cool First priority, finish (stop laughing) her layout, then build my own, then add to hers if we live that long.Laugh

Oh, guineas & turkey babies are all hatching out now in the incubator. The peeping has begun.

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Posted by Packers#1 on Saturday, May 29, 2010 5:31 PM
Chris, nice Geep pics. DERN that sucker looks old! weathered this boxcar over the past week or so:

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Posted by AmanaMedic on Saturday, May 29, 2010 5:44 PM

 ROB and SAWYER: Thanks guys, here's what she looked like just 3 or 4 years later (1991):

 

Time for another round of ibuproffen and sinus stuff... anybody know where I can get a head transplant???

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Saturday, May 29, 2010 5:46 PM

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Jeff - Hope, your van will be on the road soon!

I hope so too. I have a couple of people searching for a steering column for it. I went and looked at a 79 B250 today that still had the column in it. Everything was the same until I got down to the end of the steering shaft where I found the wrong type of connector. It has a bracket and a disc whereas mine has a hollow end with a shear pin. ARGGG!

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Posted by TMarsh on Saturday, May 29, 2010 5:47 PM

Good late afternoon all. Spent the day at Mom's house cleaning and such. As luck would have it the kitchen faucet decided to leak out the swivel part so two trips to Springfield sufficed to get the required parts. All is well. The folks seemed to like the house but weren't too thrilled with the fact it is dated and the colors of the carpet are Mom's specific to her furniture and therefore not neutral for most others. I still have a lot of odds and ends to do but have a bit more gumption to do it now that there is a reason more than the house just sitting there waiting.

Ulrich- Very funny. I only understood the word neinSmile,Wink, & Grin. The pictures, I understood and they were worth a thousand words. Even if they were in German or Swiss, or whatever. Very very nice modeling. I especially like his way of attaching outcroppings. By the way, most of not all, ill feelings toward the Germans have passed many years ago. Todays American knows without a doubt the real group we were fighting was the N**i's in WWII. The Germans were just caught up in the mess. I've had a chance to work side by sid ewith several army's and I have to say the Germans were a pretty good bunch. Had some fun too we didWhistling. (don't try to hold your own with them in a beer swilling evening though. Hoo boy! Our beer is water.)I'll have to admit the Canadians were the most fun of the "foreign" troops. I think that was mainly because we spoke the same language therefore easiest to communicate.  

The Brits, don't take offense, but some of them were, shall we say, a bit stuffy. They weren't real thrilled with the way Americans did things nor were they very willing to accommodate much. Ukranians and Russians, keep an eye on your stuff while they are telling you of their Star Trek like technology and powerful weapons. Koreans, they were very friendly and very quick to correct your English. Italians, well I didn't get a whole lot of direct dealing with many of them. They pretty much stayed to themselves.They ate good though. These are not complaints or put downs, I enjoyed the company of all and if I had too, wouldn't have bat an eye about fighting next to any of them. 

Galaxy- Glad to hear the savings were reinvested wisely! So, if you run the GP7 then it's official Chessie did run it. Just in your world. ..... well so much for that. Just saw Chris's post.

Let me get this straight. Ray loads up on Mexican food the night before he cuts wood at the museumShock? He'll be cutting something alright. I'm just not sure it'll be firewood!!!! (old gas. Yea, riiiiiight.) Laugh

AS I look down I see Missy has the right idea.........Zzz It appears she's dreaming about eating. No wonder she's fat.

Hope ya'll had a Great Day!!!

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Posted by Hamltnblue on Saturday, May 29, 2010 5:48 PM

 A good shot of Jack Daniels is the best head medicine. It clears anything. If not you won't care Big Smile

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Posted by TMarsh on Saturday, May 29, 2010 5:51 PM

AmanaMedic
... anybody know where I can get a head transplant???

Would let you use mine, but sounds like you wouldn't be gaining anything.

 

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Saturday, May 29, 2010 5:58 PM

Hamltnblue

 A good shot of Jack Daniels is the best head medicine. It clears anything. If not you won't care Big Smile

I'm having some Glenfiddich 20yr old single malt scotch so there harrrruuuuuuummmph! MischiefSmile,Wink, & Grin

Actually had a shot of that last night as we had a bunch of ppl show up here at my place--Mischief

We had an operating session that included the usual suspects--ie no turning turnouts, missed blocks---and other such things---Banged Head

Chloe, I'll just have a coffee and a slice of that lemon merigue pie please--I'll be at the RC for now--Big Smile

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Posted by Packers#1 on Saturday, May 29, 2010 6:00 PM
AmanaMedic

 ROB and SAWYER: Thanks guys, here's what she looked like just 3 or 4 years later (1991):

 

Time for another round of ibuproffen and sinus stuff... anybody know where I can get a head transplant???

ChrisEight Ball

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Posted by TMarsh on Saturday, May 29, 2010 6:20 PM

Ladies and Gentlemen, and Gentlemen and ladies, I've been thinking about what Ulrich said about them not having a Memorial day for obvious reasons. (to paraphrase). I think all countries should have it. One big worldwide holiday. I do. Think about it, every country, whether we feel the same way as they do or not, owes who and what they are to the brave men and women who fought and died for their rights to live and enjoy the freedom to live as they choose. Even if some don't see it as a freedom. To have the land they call home. Yes there were some extremists throughout history, but the ones we honor are the ones who laid down their lives for what they believed in. If they were fighting for a power that was oppressive and they didn't believe but had to fight, does that make them less honored for their sacrifices? I think not. Many of us have to do things we don't want to do. They had it worse for whatever their reasons.

Too bad we don't live in a perfect world. That would be ideal with no wars, but that just didn't happen and probably won't until we move upstairs. In the meantime, I think ALL people who served their country and their beliefs should be honored. Even, yes even if we don't necessarily agree with the way they do things.

THAT, my friends shall be the way I would like to see it be. I know I will be honoring the heroes for our country, but I shall add those who stood up and fought for theirs in the Soviet Union, those who fought to bring down the wall and bring east and west together. Those who fought to separate themselves, even if they lost, from someway they didn't like. And for those who were forced to fight because the had no choice but to do so, or lose their family to the very people they were fighting for.

Memorial Day should be for all because we all had someone who fought for us to live the way we do.

Just my opinion. Naturally I don't expect everyone to agree. But order up anyway, seems I have the tab.

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Posted by Robby P. on Saturday, May 29, 2010 6:43 PM

 Good afternoon.

 I didn't do much today but some shopping.  I did go by a LHS but only bought a 18-wheel trailer for $2.00.   Tomorrow my wifes family is cooking out  for lunch but I will be at work Banged Head.

 I also hope everybody has a good Memorial Day.  I was going to type up a story my grandmother wrote to a newspaper MANY  years ago (also won a award for it), but I didn't wanna get the "Diner" locked.   The story was called "The Helmet".  Its a story (true story) about her grandfather coming back from the war and he brought home a German soldiers helmet with a bullet hole right below the swastika.  Its not a bad/mean story but more on who's helmet, and the life he left behind.

 

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Saturday, May 29, 2010 7:12 PM

Good evening ...

Todd  ... Those are good thoughts about Memorial Day. .. I could understand how Germany might want to have its own Memorial Day. Wars, of course, take their terrible tolls.  Christians believe each one is a child of God. ... I have thought, too about the US Civil War in which there were 600,000 deaths. That is tragic. Here we are nearly 150 years later, and it really no longer matters who was on which side. The sadness back then must have been overwhelming.

Hamltnblue  ...  good to see you in the diner. Did you bring free sample of the "medicine"? ... Also, saw your good photos in WPF. Nice!   

Jeff ... I sure hope you can locate that steering column soon.  We'll have to put out an APB.

The old GP7 (or was it a GP9?) on the Iowa Northern looks like a real workhorse.

Speaking of GP7's ... My new P2K GP7 is now DCC equipped.

Also ... If you are interested, you can look at this link. GTW rebuilt several GP9's about 1990 or so. The result was a neat looking locomotive I thought. It had new, larger sized, angular cabs and low noses. Prior to rebuilding, GTW's GP9's were operated long end forward, but after rebuilding, they were short end forward.

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/gtw/gtw4622ads.jpg

 

 

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Posted by GMTRacing on Saturday, May 29, 2010 7:14 PM

Good Evening All,

    Getting ready to head home from the shop. Got zero done on the Focus, but did get started on the Aspire - rebuilt L.F. hub and upright, prep flywheel, pull calipers (frozen) and rotors (badly worn on one side only - see above). If someone covers my chores tomorrow, I can get further along and maybe even get it back on the ground.

   We did have a world wide memorial day called Armastice(sp) Day but WWII intervened. I wouldn't mind a day of remembrence for all casualties military and civilian with out all the usual finger pointing (not talking about Memorial Day here, but notably some of the other event anniversaries). It'd be tough to pull off though in this day and age.

Sawyer - like the new mods. Someday when you have nothing better to do, try some adhesive and fine ground foam in various greens on the forest in the backround of your shots, or try it on a similar test section and see if it doesn't make it look more detailed.It's probably hard to envision a world without Kudzu, but the south was full of trees and varied undergrowth in the period before the 60's.

   Hope those on sick call or with loved ones in need find some respite and improvement. Ulrich - I agree with the others that your spells are probably stress related and hope have some good news come your way soon.

   Jeff - is it possible your van was supposed to have the coupler and stuff all along? Sounds like the previous mechanic may have eliminated some things that "weren't needed". Most steering boxes end with a male spline and most Mopar trucks and vans use a flexible coupler in the column that is prone to wearing our prematurely. It's possible someone got clever and stuffed a similar piece in there that doesn't really belong and that's why you're having all these issues. Just a thought.

   Time for me to head out. I'll try to drop in later.   CUL, J.R.

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Posted by galaxy on Saturday, May 29, 2010 7:31 PM

howmus

Galaxy, sounds like a good haul!  BTW I got my Masters in Education at a college located at the other end of the Horse........ (Old local Elmira/Horseheads story from the 1930s....)  If Lantz's Hobby Shop was around back in the 1970s, I may have bought some "n" scale stuff there.  I taught in Waverly, NY for 11 years.

Well, Lantz's may not have been around in the 70's, but near by in Pine City  {Elmira} was a train shop. With a garden RR outside to boot! I don't know what all they carried as we had O O/27 at the time and only looked for stuff for our trains then when I was a kid/teen. Of course you could take a trip down to see Lantz's or just order online at wholesaletrains.com!

Everytime I go, I usually find something. It can be dangerous for me to go to the store in person. Once I walked out without a thing! once I walked out with a $8 boxcar only!

My other half found an interesting complete passeger set in N scale but at $164.00 it was a little rich for our blood. THen there was the N scale mogul undec. that had attention until it was found to be at $119.00, so my other half kind scored out, and complained how I always find something. Of course my ohter half had a german grandmother and spent every other summer in germany riding passenger trains all over europe growing up, so european trains in N or euro-looking trains are what my other half looks for, and are hard to find. Mumbled something about a Pennsy GG-1 being something to search after in N and I discovered when we got home that wholesaletrains.com HAS the GG-1 in Tuscan Red for exactly $100.98. SO guess who's getting what for Xmas this year??????? Now if I can only order it, get it delivered and not have my other half know about it....... NOw I get lucky because I picked a relatively very popular American RR to model after....The B&O incarnates and a few Pennsys I like....so I can usually find something.

I know you taught in Waverly as you said so before, and I grew up in Owego, and now live in Apalachin.The Vestal end.Lol the "good end".

WE are thinking Monday of going to Steamtown, which we really shoulda done today. If we do we are going to finally buy t-shirts that say we've been there! Our trip to Strasburg RR and PA RR Museum in July for our anniversary may be put on hold. We have a freind who is new to, but very enthusiastic about trains like us, but has had back problems and surgeries and is out of work on a disability leave. I may have some back surgery after I see the neurosurgeon that may put me out of commission for Strasburg. My other half is bent on getting reservations set now to be sure we have a spot when we get there, but not until after we find out what is happening to me and my back. ANd I will have to heart stress tests and such as well, so I don't know. Our friend I don't think will be able to go either as he is in agony even after his surgeries.

have a good evening.

-G .

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Posted by howmus on Saturday, May 29, 2010 7:41 PM

galaxy
but near by in Pine City  {Elmira} was a train shop. With a garden RR outside to boot!

 

Ah yes!  That's the store I used to go to.  IIRC he also had a large indoor layout.  Hope you folks get to make the trip to Strassburg!

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Saturday, May 29, 2010 9:27 PM

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   Jeff - is it possible your van was supposed to have the coupler and stuff all along? Sounds like the previous mechanic may have eliminated some things that "weren't needed". Most steering boxes end with a male spline and most Mopar trucks and vans use a flexible coupler in the column that is prone to wearing our prematurely. It's possible someone got clever and stuffed a similar piece in there that doesn't really belong and that's why you're having all these issues. Just a thought.

Here's a pic to make it clearer.

 

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Posted by GMTRacing on Saturday, May 29, 2010 11:23 PM

Jeff,

    That's some great camera you have. I must admit I've never seen a steering coupler pinned to the steering box. The amount of grease on top of the coupler indicates it is already distressed. The great mystery to me is what is adrift in the column itself. If the piece that moves up and shorts out the directionals is the lower column itself then the coupler has already failed. If the offending column part is nearly at the directional signal wiring normally, the column could move up and short without losing steering. If this is the case, you should be able to knock out the pin and replace the coupler. There should be a positive retention clip in the bottom of the column to keep the column in the coupler as well as the shear pin in the steering box. The shear pin goes through a groove ground in the splined  stub on the steering box output. If you can drill out the pin you should be able to push the coulmn up and check that it can slip off the end of the shaft. If you get that far you should see a groove all around the bottom of the column where the retaining ring would have gone. With luck the ring may still be in there and can be reassembled properly. If the ring is gone you'll need to get another one. You should be able to replace the shear pin with a nut and bolt. On the negative side, with your recent health issues, the whole job is going to be quite a challange. I haveless than fond memories of the cuts and scrapes I got w..king on a Chevy van of similar vintage. Hope that sheds some light on the subject.  J.R.

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Posted by james saunders on Sunday, May 30, 2010 3:31 AM
Hey folks, Hope everyone had a good weekend so far. (mines over!) I've had a busy weekend. Layed the cork down friday night, started on the track and by lunchtime today had the mainline and the grain elevator siding track all done and running trains for a couple of hours to iron out any bugs. Big Smile Will start building structures and adding some scenery over the next few weeks. Will be weathering a few freight cars this week so I will probably add a few along the way this week. Wink * There is more over at WPF. While on the topic of memorial days, we have Anzac day on the 25th of April every year which we remember the fallen. We also have Remembrance day on the 11th of November as well where at 11am (the eleventh hour, of the eleventh day, of the eleventh month.) the nation observes a minutes silence, A vast majority of people observe it in Australia. The Radio and TV stations all stop programs and music playing to observe the minute.

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Posted by LSWrr on Sunday, May 30, 2010 6:40 AM

Good morning all,

I spent yesterday volunteering with the local Coast Guard Auxiliary doing free vessel safety checks from 0900 to 1900hrs and boy is my head and arms sunburn.  Monday Dorothy will be in the Memorial Day parade that ends at the USS COD where a wreath will be placed in the water in honor of all the veterans that served before us.

I think the best medicine for my burnt arms will be to work in the train room today.

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Sunday, May 30, 2010 7:03 AM

james saunders
Hey folks, Hope everyone had a good weekend so far. (mines over!) I've had a busy weekend. Layed the cork down friday night, started on the track and by lunchtime today had the mainline and the grain elevator siding track all done and running trains for a couple of hours to iron out any bugs. Big Smile Will start building structures and adding some scenery over the next few weeks. Will be weathering a few freight cars this week so I will probably add a few along the way this week. Wink *

 There is more over at WPF. While on the topic of memorial days, we have Anzac day on the 25th of April every year which we remember the fallen. We also have Remembrance day on the 11th of November as well where at 11am (the eleventh hour, of the eleventh day, of the eleventh month.) the nation observes a minutes silence, A vast majority of people observe it in Australia. The Radio and TV stations all stop programs and music playing to observe the minute.

hopefully it will come out this time--

Any argument carried far enough will end up in Semantics--Hartz's law of rhetoric Emerald. Leemer and Southern The route of the Sceptre Express Barry

I just started my blog site...more stuff to come...

http://modeltrainswithmusic.blogspot.ca/

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Posted by TMarsh on Sunday, May 30, 2010 8:05 AM

Good morning. I want to buzz down to the train room real quick and apply some more plaster for downtown Gold Creek. Then shower, Church, Memorial service at the Arch uptown, visit Mom, eat, then home, mow, and who knows from there. Hopefully more train time.

Jeff- Ahh, I didn't say much before as I don't know how, when or if Chrysler changed anything or if the vans were different than cars trucks or when these changes took place. I know my ‘94 truck is different than my ‘70 RoadrunnerLaugh and yours looks like the old Plymouths. Actually it is quite simple to remove. Like J.R. said, the roll pin just rides in the groove on the spline of the gearbox. Removing that, and with a few tugs and maybe a bit of prying to break it loose, it slides right off the gear box shaft up the column just far enough to clear the splined shaft on the gear box. Inside that coupler box is nothing more than two pieces of metal shaped like the opposite sided bulges, but not as long as the bulges so the coupler can slide, held to the column with a center pin and retained by the cap where the column enters to provide bite for the column when turning and the pivot point. That cap, of course, is not intended to reatin the steering column as that is done in the cab. If there is forward and backward movement of the column and you see that at the coupler, the coupler is not your problem. No need to remove that coupler from the column unless you just cannot get the coupler unstuck from the gearbox. Other than looseness, which you can tell by holding the coupler and attempting to twist the column to feel for slack, you should not need to open the coupler. I can't recall the reason you need to replace the column as it was a while ago and because there are so many changes in column designs I don't know what you have. I have a better idea know, so if you repeat what it is that is wrong, I MAY be able to point you in the right direction and save you the hassle of finding a new one. Again big maybe. But, conversation is free so what'll it hurt. Like you, I've had more than my fare share of steering columns apart. Mainly old Mopars but I wouldn't call myself an expert sooooo...... who knows.

Have a Great Day, and I have not forgotten.

Todd  

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, May 30, 2010 8:30 AM

GMTRacing

Jeff,

    That's some great camera you have.

It's an old Olympus D-550Z using a 128mb SM card for storage.

 

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, May 30, 2010 8:42 AM

GMTRacing
The great mystery to me is what is adrift in the column itself. If the piece that moves up and shorts out the directionals is the lower column itself then the coupler has already failed. If the offending column part is nearly at the directional signal wiring normally, the column could move up and short without losing steering. 

All I know about it is that there are pieces missing within the column. My nephew says that the column is trash and isn't worth rebuilding. I don't want to have to replace a working gearbox to get a matching column/gearbox connection but I will if I have to.

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Posted by TMarsh on Sunday, May 30, 2010 10:02 AM

Alas it has happened. I went down to spread some drywall mud and lost track of time and have now missed Church. I will redeem myself by attending the Memorial Day service uptown. Then proceed on to the next required duty.

   

Todd  

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