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Posted by blownout cylinder on Sunday, November 29, 2009 5:10 PM

fec153

Mr.Duff told us or it was on the sheet music, it is  Russian Othodox  and means "HAVE MERCY ON US O LORD".  I Sang bass in 52 tru 54 choir.

Flip

 

I think the version that you mentioned was translated partially from Cyrillic to the verbal Russian. I saw a Cyrillic version of that used for choral direction(?).

Me----I'll stick with Gaudette---at least I can sing Latin--Whistling

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Posted by TMarsh on Sunday, November 29, 2009 4:56 PM

fec153
"HOSPODEPOMILUIE

Actually, Hospodepomilluie, is a French word. Meaning "hospital for poor mules" Little known fact about it is..... (smack!) OW!

OK I'l sit down.

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Posted by Flashwave on Sunday, November 29, 2009 4:47 PM

howmus
Not even sure about the language as Kyrie Eleison is "Lord have mercy" in Greek.

We did a version of Kyrie last year. Loved the piece. We'll try the bowls idea too. I'd thought about that, but I had some reason that it wouldn't be feasible. I dunno though, I ate Turkey since then. (And ham, and a Cinnamon braid, and an antacid...)

And to your earlier post, I dun gedit

JimRCGMO
Morgan - on lapsing over into the Trains forum tracks, no problem on that; when we get to the last MR track, we'll probably just head back up to the first track (which by then we'll all have forgotten, and it will look like a new location to us all!)Smile,Wink, & Grin Sorry to hear you haven't got in much MRR'ing, but you want to keep your grades up and do well, so you can get the job you'd like after you get out of school (and college, probably). Will look forward to your Christmas story, having read your earlier one...

I spose that works. I never did the original Coffee Shop siding, aside from the pictures and old posts you guys dug out.

Yeah, keepin' the grades up. Actually, I'd kinda like to parallell Trsinman Sam and head for Amtrak. (Though if that falls through, there's always Elementary teaching, since I'm having a blast) And since I can do the training either with AMTK or ITM, College becomes a non-essential. Useful, maybe, but with finances as they are, why rack up a leg's worth of debt for half a degree.

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Posted by Trainman Sam on Sunday, November 29, 2009 4:46 PM

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Trainman Sam - that's a bunch o'stuff to memorize. Are the speeds (two figures) in mph/kph, or what otherwise do they mean?

 

The two numbers represent: Passenger Trains / Freight Trains...  If only one speed is listed it is for all trains.  All speeds are listed as Miles Per Hour.

That was just the North Jersey Coastline...

We have to carry AMTRAK's books as well...

I have to keep the books up to date...  As new information and special instructions are issued (in the Bulletin Order: Supplemental or Daily)  I have to change it in the special instruction book, or my other books:
Electrical Instructions

Air Brake Instructions

Rules Governing Locomotive Engineers

NORAC

Safety Rules and Instructions

Amtrak special instructions

Amtrak Timetable

NJT Timetables (Hoboken and Newark Division)

NJT General Order (The silver book)

When I am finished, I'll should be able to remember every curve, distant signal, station, braking distance for each station, and the breaks in the rail for each line... probably won't remember much else!!! LOL

Best wishes and prayers to those who need them!  Which to my knowledge is ALL of us!

Janie, I guess you are in for Chloe, sorry for saying the wrong name earlier.   Can I have a refill on my coffee?  And a large slice of Apple Walnut Pie?  Thanks

I'll be back in the corner pouring over my "Study material"

 

Sam

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Posted by JimRCGMO on Sunday, November 29, 2009 4:17 PM

Good Afternoon, Janie - I'll have a grilled cheese sandwich, bowl of tomato soup, and a RBF, please.

Chris:

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I had Loving Wife read the finished piece twice before I filed it, kind-of a "safety check," just in case the gears were lubed a little too well...Whistling
Laugh Hey, at least you were able to get a good outcome from visiting the winery! WinkThumbs Up On your roundhouse, depending on how many windows you need to 'brick' over, you could get some single height or one-and-one-half height DPM blank walls, or go the Walthers brick sheets, whichever runs less. My 2 centsMy 2 cents Hope that helps some.

Trainman Sam - that's a bunch o'stuff to memorize. Are the speeds (two figures) in mph/kph, or what otherwise do they mean?

Lee, would that crying you mentioned be by the person hit (and would it be because of the injury one of those massive locos would inflict, or because of the amount they'd then owe the owner of said loco..?), or the owner crying at the thought of trying to find another loco to replace it? Oops As for the shopping, good that you were able to get home alive.Cowboy

Morgan - on lapsing over into the Trains forum tracks, no problem on that; when we get to the last MR track, we'll probably just head back up to the first track (which by then we'll all have forgotten, and it will look like a new location to us all!)Smile,Wink, & Grin Sorry to hear you haven't got in much MRR'ing, but you want to keep your grades up and do well, so you can get the job you'd like after you get out of school (and college, probably). Will look forward to your Christmas story, having read your earlier one...

Garry, excellent photos - you have me wondering (once I finally get my LPC) if Kentucky has reciprical 'exchange' privileges for counselors coming from another state. Might consider checking things out there (Hmmm...).

Sawyer - do you do well in writing in your English classes? I would think so, with your 'gift for words' in here. Wink Will be looking at your video tomorrow when I'm off w**k and have more time.

Barry, on your London train show, that might depend on how late your office building is open (AFTER the show closes)...Whistling

Robby (and Lee) - one way to look at the crowded LHSes, would be to think that there'll be plenty of MRRers, based on everybody who was in there (possibly even buying trainsets for nephews, nieces, grandsons, granddaughters, sons, daughters, etc.). Another thing in a LHS is, the heavier MRRer just has to hold his/her own (or *gently* bump back?), especially if you're right in front of the stuff you want to buy and are about to get it. I think football calls that blocking, right, sportsfans? Smile,Wink, & Grin

Jeff, sounds like a good plan to bug the doctor about those X-rays and getting him/her to find out what's happening with your foot. I'm sure (given how long you've had pain with the foot) that you will be glad to get it fixed and healed up.Like your front street by the tracks there. Thumbs Up

DerJohn - you have done it again, my man! BowBow And looking at the enginehouse from that other angle, I'd say it's definitely an N scale version, possibly they used the HO scale dies and made new dies for N scale. At least, I don't recall ever seeing Revell N scale buildings... Yessiree, another great job by iNvisible Man DerJohn! And I would say Amen! to your (and Flip's original) comments on our talented teens in here. Yeah!!Wow!! (Not that we have any slouches among our older Diners)

And some have been talking about roadway materials - anyone use Sculptamold? I got some with the idea of using it for some scenery (carving rock strata, sorta...), and had also been toying with the idea of using it for roadways up to the track crossings (but using the sheet styrene between the tracks). Anyone who's tried/used Sculptamold wanna tell me how well it w**ked/didn't, and any tips for when I get to using the stuff? Thanks in advance. Smile

I have no clue on that Hospodepomiluie-whatever thing. My closest thing to that was one summer session at Washington Univ. when I took (formal) voice lessons. Got some pointers on singing German (and I think Italian - it's been a long while...) lyrics, but I have more practice singing in church choirs (and usually those were more for fun or praise than for exactitude). I enjoy singing, however, and sometimes will sing harmony with the radio in the car (alone, windows usually rolled up). Whistling

No actual MRR'ing yet today, but I did get some stuff moved around (off the dining room table and even off one area of the floor), and got the printer moved so I could get the tree up. Tree is up, decorations and light hopefully tonight. Actually, that might happen, with the way this Sat./Sunday has been going. No calls or pages yesterday at all (over 24 hours in a row), and made it through church this morning without any dratted interruptions from the silly electronic things (cell or pager). Hey, I'll just say a big "Thanks, God!" and that I'd be fine if He sees so fit to keep the things off for the rest of today (until 8 a.m., when I go off duty). Yeah!! Then tomorrow and Tuesday, I will be off w**k until Wednesday evening (when I go on-call at 4:30 p.m. till next morning at 8 a.m.). Might be Monday Photo Fun in here....Wink

I'll sit at the RC for now (after checking that there aren't any whoopee cushions around).

Prayers for healing and doctors getting whatever figured out that's causing the problem(s), and for good nights' rest, and for a good week ahead.

 

Blessings,

Jim in Cape Girardeau

 


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Posted by Trainman Sam on Sunday, November 29, 2009 4:07 PM

Another bright and beautiful day at the diner!  Chloe, here's what I owe for the tab from friday...  and can I have a side of bacon, coffee in a NH&I mug, please and thank you!?

Sawyer- Glad to see the layout working on up!!!  I have to agree with the others "Never apologize for your work"  It is your layout, and no one else can say squat about that...

I am hoping the next section of Qualifying will go smoothly... The NorthEast Corridor!!!

Very daunting... I have about a month and a half to learn from SunnySide Yard (in Queens, NY) to Morris Interlocking (Bucks County, PA) all yards inclusive... then we think we will start train handling, or we will qualify on the Raritan Line and then train handle... either way, I am slightly apprehensive, but I'm sure after the first full day of it I will be ok, just have to get that first experience out of the way, then everything can settle in to place!

I'll be in the corner with my meal...  PPPPHHHHHHHHHRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPFPFFFFF!!!!!  Hey Chris?!  I think I found that whoopie cushion you were looking for...  at least I HOPE that's the one, and that there aren't more...  

-looking cautiously around the booth for more-

I'll be sitting in the corner booth quietly again, as to avoid pies cakes and whoopie cushions!!! 

 

Sam

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Posted by fec153 on Sunday, November 29, 2009 3:51 PM

Mr.Duff told us or it was on the sheet music, it is  Russian Othodox  and means "HAVE MERCY ON US O LORD".  I Sang bass in 52 tru 54 choir.

Flip

 

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Posted by howmus on Sunday, November 29, 2009 3:46 PM

fec153

RAY- What is the correct spelling of- "HOSPODEPOMILUIE"????  Use to sing it in High school.  Very boring lyric.

Flip

 

 

OK, now ya done it...........  I have sung that as well. At first I was thinking it was one of the strange vocal warm-ups my Jr. High choral teacher made us do........  However, after thinking for a while, I think it may be Hospodie po mir loy???  If I recall correctly it is from the Eastern Church (Orthodox?) and means "Lord have mercy"????  Not even sure about the language as Kyrie Eleison is "Lord have mercy" in Greek.  I remember singing it, but it was a looooooooooooooooong time ago.

Hopefully Tom will pop in and solve the mystery for us both.

73

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Posted by fec153 on Sunday, November 29, 2009 2:58 PM

RAY- What is the correct spelling of- "HOSPODEPOMILUIE"????  Use to sing it in High school.  Very boring lyric.

Flip

 

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Posted by howmus on Sunday, November 29, 2009 1:54 PM

TMarsh

Ray likes to be an Usher where you get to greet and chat with many people. Imagine that. Laugh You are a very personable guy Ray. You probably make many people feel welcome with your permanent smile.Bow

 

Hmmmm, you noticed huh??? Whistling  Speaking of "Learning Styles", the granddaddy of that whole method was probably the Myers-Briggs Assessment.  It had 16 different personality types as opposed to the 4 in Learning Styles.  I have taken the assessment and I bet you can guess where I ended up on the Introvert - Extrovert scale??? Whistling

Now I'm heading down to the layout!!!! Smile,Wink, & Grin

[edit]  I'mmmmmmm baaaaacck!!!

Just thought of something one of my music methods teachers taught us way back at Eastman in the 1960's.  Might be of help to Morgan.

The teacher put a symbol on the board and said, "this is a whamus, what is it class?"  We would dutifully respond that it was a "whamus".  He would put another on the board and say it was a "thamus".  We would respond.  He would then do a third symbol that he called a "zamus".  He then gave us a drill having us name each of the symbols.  He got faster and we got better at correctly naming each of these symbols!  He praised us highly for being such a smart and quick class.  Suddenly he stopped, smiled at us, and said, "now sing it!"  Hopefully you can figure it out.............Whistling

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Posted by TMarsh on Sunday, November 29, 2009 1:26 PM

Ray likes to be an Usher where you get to greet and chat with many people. Imagine that. Laugh You are a very personable guy Ray. You probably make many people feel welcome with your permanent smile.Bow

You do now see why I'm not a teacher don't you.

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Posted by Packers#1 on Sunday, November 29, 2009 1:25 PM

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Sawyer- Yup, glad to see you pay them no nevermind. My feeling is this. I have trials and errors like most people. If I show a picture of something, I don't want to be coddled, but I don't want to be insulted either. We all have different likes and dislikes and yours may be different than mine. I do not expect everyone to like what I do even if I'm satisfied. Honestly I get satisfied with each improvement and don't see some things that still need improvement or need further improving until sometime later. How many times have we done something and said "looks great" only to come back sometimes even years later and say, yuck. I fully expect for some if not all to see something they feel needs improved, changed or just plain removed. I may already know it, I may not see it until pointed out, or it may just be good enough for me. Whatever the case, all feedback is welcome about the project. The PROJECT. I would however prefer they leave out their personal feelings about my modeling abilities, or the stereotyping of the part of the country I live in. I serves no purpose. Some however, feel that is just part of it. And that brings in your playground sand as you so accurately put it.

Thanks Todd. Exactly how I feel as well. And you hit Mayo (or buddy-boy, as I now call him) dead on the head.

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Posted by howmus on Sunday, November 29, 2009 1:20 PM

Afternoon everyone!

Zoe I'll just have a cup of decafe in a R&GV mug and a turkey sandwich.  I'll go to my regular seat at the Rivet Counter.

Morgan, I will also second or third what others have said.  At second grade most children will be mastering spacial concepts about volume.  Some hands on experience for the girl seems to be in order.  Most children used to come to school with a good idea of simple volume measurements and could easily translate that to a new relation in a problem like you are describing.  Unfortunately many children now come from homes where the parents never cook or bake .  They have no concept of volumes like Gallon, Quart, Pint, or cup.  They may know what a Gallon of milk looks like, but the others are not experienced.

I would think that you have some knowledge of Kolb's Learning Styles and the work of Dr. Harvey Silver.  If not they may be of some insight to you in dealing with learning difficulties.  I suggest you Google the names and see if you can find more about the programs.  Learning Styles I think has some good insights, but has been shown not to be an effective teaching tool by several respected studies.  Much of the problem comes from the interpretation of the ideas into rigid guidelines rather than the use of the concepts I think.  Anyway good luck helping the child!  Remember teaching is both a science and an art.

Barry!  Are you sending more icky weather over my way?  Sheesh!

I had to be at church early today to be one of the ushers.   I do enjoy being an usher and I will get to do just that all through the month of December.  I Took Head Usher for the month..... (No one else ever seems to want it).  I will set things up for next Sunday, but I will have a substitute for me as I will be at The RIT Train Show all weekend.  If you are there be sure to look me up at the NMRA Table.  Or.... even better come the Lakeshores Division, NMRA Meet we will have there on Saturday from 11AM to 12:30PM.  

Now I'm going to head downstairs to the layout and see about installing another tortoise.

Later!

73

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Posted by TMarsh on Sunday, November 29, 2009 1:14 PM

Good Afternoon.  DID NOT MAKE IT INTO THE TRAINROOM AGAIN!!!!! Ah, retired they say I am. I'm ready to remove myself of this burden. After the first of the year. I have commitments through then .

Lee- I also found myself in town yesterday. I had to, well, I didn't HAVE to, but I went to get some supplies for the elevator. Yuck!

On a bright note, I have decided that I should get a part of the layout done, kinda sorta, befoe I add a bit of bench work because then it will be a bit tough to reach the back. Since I was in town anyway I decided to make a trip to the FLHS. I picked up a Sceniking backdrop and it works well for the spot I am needing the back done. So, I will work on that hopefully today. AAGH! I just jinxed it.

Morgan- I'm not a teacher, but I play one on.... (smack). Sorry. Seriously, I'm not real big on the newer teaching methods. Most had no problem grasping size when they learned the 2 pints, 4 quarts, 1 gallon version from eons ago. Most people will realize a quart is smaller than a gallon if it takes 4 of them and so on. IMHO.

(chuckle) Al Mayo. Ya know, I am far from a person who should critique anyones work. I do know what looks good but just have a bit of trouble doing it. OK a lot. Hopefully in time it will come together. However, I try to look beyond what I would or would not do because it is their world and, well you know. Buuut sometimes a persons arrogance makes me look at their stuff closer and pick it apart as well. Especially when that seems to be what they like to do. I have been to Mr Mayo's website and have seen his work and it is good. But, not to the level at all to which he boasts. I can pick his apart as well as with most layouts we see and in most cases more so. Let's face it, if anyone wanted too, they could find things wrong with any layout. Being perfect is a monumental task and almost impossible. And everyone has their own level of accuracy and perfection where they are comfortable with stopping, whether they want to admit it or not. The difference is in the execution. Most feel many things are nit picking, or don't want to seem nit picky and arrogant. Many realize it may be, but mention it anyway because they truly feel they are doing a favor and acting as a sort of proof reader. No harm there because usually they don't say it mean or rude and if you don't take the advice for what ever reason, oh well, just thought I'd help. That about sums up 99.999% of all MRR's. But that .001% are the ones who feel they own, or are the best in the hobby and they just have to let you know it. They pull out exact definitions of words and somehow feel the majorities distaste is somehow my or your fault and not theirs. Disagree with something they say or do and watch them ball up faster and harder than anyone else that should "just learn to take it " Odd isn't it. The person who believes it's freedom of speech and ideas, is the one who always squashes you and tries not to let you get a word in edgewise.Confused

Sawyer- Yup, glad to see you pay them no nevermind. My feeling is this. I have trials and errors like most people. If I show a picture of something, I don't want to be coddled, but I don't want to be insulted either. We all have different likes and dislikes and yours may be different than mine. I do not expect everyone to like what I do even if I'm satisfied. Honestly I get satisfied with each improvement and don't see some things that still need improvement or need further improving until sometime later. How many times have we done something and said "looks great" only to come back sometimes even years later and say, yuck. I fully expect for some if not all to see something they feel needs improved, changed or just plain removed. I may already know it, I may not see it until pointed out, or it may just be good enough for me. Whatever the case, all feedback is welcome about the project. The PROJECT. I would however prefer they leave out their personal feelings about my modeling abilities, or the stereotyping of the part of the country I live in. I serves no purpose. Some however, feel that is just part of it. And that brings in your playground sand as you so accurately put it.

If I'd have read Lee's post on the subject previous to my speel, I could have saved a lot of space by saying "ditto" . But I spent so much time typing I hate to waste it.Whistling

I also have found using the sheetrock joint compound to be just as good and far less messy that plaster. Plaster of course is the choice for several things that the thicker joint compound isn't well suited for. But here is a thought. I have used Smooth-It and I have used Plaster. I find no difference other than packaging and price. Plaster is a LOT cheaper. Maybe someone can correct me if there is a difference.Question

Have a Great Day!!!

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Sunday, November 29, 2009 12:14 PM

Afternoon--

Got all the paperwork done and actually had time to get at the trainshow----meh for crowds but there were deals in some tables. Found a few cylindrical hoppers and a few more brass locomotives---a 2-6-0 and another 2-8-4 both in white boxes. Detailed well and still running--both need lubed though. Ol' Fred at the Williston collectors---er--hysteric historical society will love the new additions---good thing he's not aroundWhistling

I'm off to do some more yard work before it gets rainin' ag'inWhistling

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Posted by Packers#1 on Sunday, November 29, 2009 12:09 PM

 Thanks everyone!

The perfectcast is being removed from the layout. Using pliers and a piece of crap testor's hobby knife to remove it. I've got a couple ideas.

Duke, I'll have to check with my parents; we might have some of that elft over from scraping the 1970's era popcorn crap off our ceilings.

J.R., i'll give that a go if I use the smooth-it. Right now I'm going to try some no trespassing signs I bought at Lowes.

Chris, well, This lot is looking like it'll be another continuous battle.

Barry, yes it is, lol.

Lee, good point man. We'll see how life goes.

John, I'm not quite sure what you're asking. If you mean what the engine house is sitting on, those are No Trespassing signs.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:07 AM

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Sawyer This is what I have used in a couple places on my layout as well as the seams on my backdrop. Picked it up at Home Depot and it sands easily.

Also,what has already been said,it is your layout and if you are having fun that is all that counts.

That's what I used on my layout extension, about 5 gallons of it in total.

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Posted by bjdukert on Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:01 AM
Sawyer This is what I have used in a couple places on my layout as well as the seams on my backdrop. Picked it up at Home Depot and it sands easily.

Also,what has already been said,it is your layout and if you are having fun that is all that counts.

Best to all on sick call and those recovering AngelAngelAngel

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Posted by der5997 on Sunday, November 29, 2009 9:08 AM

Good Sunday Morning, and I'll have a JR Regular and a oatmeal/molasses cookie please Zoe.

CapeJim: You said you thought those factories I'm bashing into engine houses might be the Normal version of Revell's kit for various industries including a  two stall engine house. I think you are right, as the brick panels are arched to just the right height to accommodate a loco plus track, and spaced just the correct distance apart for two tracks.; and they cut out so easily too. Thumbs Up  I made some considerable progress on the second one yesterday. The interior is much more visible in the second location, and both door will be permanently open. So I thought I would make a central platform to give the impression that work might actually be able to be done, even if the house is empty. I used blue foam board for the base, and a card top, carving steps at one end for access.  Then a coat of concrete paint, a handrail and other details (those posts are from the original factory, no idea what they represent, but they seemed to me to be vaguely purposeful), and there we have it. I had to reposition the right hand track, bending it to be parallel with its neighbour. I'm waiting for things to dry out today before finishing the ballast refill.

 

Sawyer: What is that shiny stuff you used instead of plaster? On road crossings, I generally pour up to the outside of the rails, and leave the space between the tracks "plaster" free, filling it in later with plastic strip at a height and gauge low enough to prevent most of the paint being ripped off later in track cleaning, and just wide enough to allow free passage of car and loco wheels. I found out not to plaster between the rails on my first real layout which had a trolley run in a plastered street.Banged Head

 

Flip:

Beautifil work, I was just surprised so many cars looked as if they came out of the box. Most layouts have the cars weathered. Me, being untalented, the only weathered cars on my mess are those I bought secondhand. I really enjoy seeing what other folks can do. I truely am amazed at our teen members. Their work is worthy of mention and glad to see they get encouragement and helpful hints from the others here.
...Yeah!! and Amen!

 

Morgan:

The question reads "Approximately how much water would ????? item hold?" Say, a sugar bowl, a soup bowl, or a Soccor Ball, to give a few of the items suggested. Then three ansswers are given, "Gallon/Liter, quart, cup.". The purpose of the question is to comprehend sizes of the measurements. And this student has that, roughly. She understands the size of the Gallon, but when it comes to quart, pint, or cup, the problem becomes one that neither she nor I have ever had the urge to pour a cup or a quart of water into a bowl, or a Soccor Ball. I don't even think one CAN pour water into a Soccor Ball. I'd be getting them wrong to, if this was my assignment. I don't think it's a fair question, beyond being able to rule out the really big measurements. aybe for a later grade who's had time for volume and such in Science.
...I'm not a teacher (and Bow to those who are); but I do know people learn in different ways. My guess is that his lass is a hands on learner, and needs visual and tactile aids to learning. How about spending a few minutes after / before class doing just what you describe, having her pour water into a one cup measure, and from that filling a cup, and other larger containers, (even a cut in half dead soccer or basket ball if a coach somewhere has one to give away) That may be the breakthrough she needs. My 2 cents

Got to get off to an Advent concert in Stellarton, so I'll say TTFN.

 

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, November 29, 2009 8:38 AM

 Good morning. It's 56 and cloudy. The high will be around 70 and there's a chance of rain.

My right ankle has been giving me terrible discomfort for over a week now. The foot doc say it's probably just the Charcot acting up again but I'm not so sure. I have to go see him tomorrow morning and I'm going to request a new series of X-rays be done. We have to be sure about what's going on in there. No progress to report on the layout front. The pain has just been too great. It didn't stop me from repairing the low pressure power steering line on my car though. Getting the jack and all into position was interesting to say the least. That was the hardest part. The break in the power steering line was where rubber meets steel so it was an easy thing to simply cut the large flared end off the steel line and slide the rubber line over the steel line and clamp it in place with two hose clamps. How long will it hold? Who knows. I should be able to get a replacement from a scrap yard but that will have to wait until I can walk more than a few dozen feet. What's on the schedule for today? Most likely watching some old movies.

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Posted by Robby P. on Sunday, November 29, 2009 7:20 AM

 Good morning.   Didn't do much yesterday as far as MRR. 

 Went out yesterday for my b-day (since my b-day was during the week).  Didn't buy one thing!!!  I did go to a LHS but it was so PACKED, you couldn't move.   I was looking at some cars/engines, and people/kids kept bumping into me, slamming into me, etc..... I was FURIOUS!!!  After the last bump I left.  Angry

 Today plans....................Clothes, make some sweet teas, leaves.  Maybe watch the Steelers tonight (which the Steelers will probably get blowed out!!).  

 Hope everybody has a good Sunday!!!!

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Posted by LSWrr on Sunday, November 29, 2009 6:02 AM

Sawyer, I wouldn’t get too wound up if someone criticized your work and I would never say: “this layout will never be in a model railroad magazine”.  I’ve had the blind luck of visiting 3 model railroads that were featured in popular magazines and there is hope for all of us.  Granted they were all great layouts, but if they didn’t have a copy of the article hanging on the wall I would have never known or thought they would make the magazine. 

Every layout is great to a group of modelers, but not to every group. I like the complex switching layout where you have challenges picking up empties and dropping full off to various customers.  Some people like the long winding mainlines with only one or two industries. Some people like the super complex paperwork real railroads used to move cars and some even have a dispatcher. I use a simple switch list and operating block signals, with the idea that you have to move box car # 3445 from track A17 and spot it on track F12.

If someone doesn’t like my layout I invite them to bring tools and materials on their next visit, if they don’t take me up on my invitation I politely provide them the best directions to the highway .

 

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Sunday, November 29, 2009 5:19 AM

Good Morning---

Sawyer: I'll echo what was already said---about Al, et al. Good video BTW--roadwork is always fun innit?Whistling

Morgan: I'd go with Chris' idea with the different sized bowls. There are a number of ways to learn and he got that one good

We'll have some sun today --when I'm in at work later--yes, going to the office this morning--paperwork don't we know---and then it'll start getting cloudy and by the time I get out from work---rainin' kinda evenin'Grumpy Our high will be 4C with the low at 0C--currently it is -3C----think I'll try to get some time to hit the London ON trainshow---considerin' I'm only a block and a bit down from it---Whistling

As I already said--London ON trainshow be on today---and I'll be doin' the office paperwork at the same time---maybe I'll head down there on break---heeheeheeWhistling I've got a few things I might like to fiind there---

Chloe, I'll have a strong jolt of that ol' boot coffee and a toasted bagel with egg/sausage please---I'll be at the RC for a bit.Smile,Wink, & Grin---um--why is there a garbage bag full of whoopie cushions here?--oh I see---Todd's been collecting new ones ------Whistling

 

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Posted by AmanaMedic on Saturday, November 28, 2009 10:55 PM

Packers#1
there's just some people who haven't shaken the playground sand out of their shoes yet. I feel sorry for them.

I LIKE that...I really do. *applause* THAT's a keeper. Thumbs Up

SAWYER: Like the man said, no need to apologize for what you're doing, like you said in the latest update, you're having fun doing it and that's all that frickin' matters! By the way, the road/lot is looking better. THAT said, I've always had an uphill battle wether it was plaster, spackling compound, "scalecrete," or whatever I was using. The last layout I had, I used something called ScaleCrete, it turned out OK, even had curbs/sidewalks along the street. But, it was a major trial and error operation. I don't remember how many times I had to scrap it and start over...probably looked like a government project. Maybe in a couple of years or so, I'll get the chance to try it again.

MORGAN: I'm not sure I can help with THAT specific problem...maybe the student is more kinestetic (sp.) or "hands-on," and therefore doesn't do so good conceptualizing. I used to teach EMT-Basic and found not everybody grasped stuff just by reading it or listening to my lectures. Way off your topic, but I found students had trouble understanding/remembering the blood flow through the heart. Yeah, I had fancy anatomical charts to show them, but what really sank it into their minds, was drawing a big valentine's heart and showing the flow with different colored markers. A simple heart with simple lines did the trick. Maybe you'll have to find a cup, a bowl, etc. and show her in three-dimensions how a pint, quart, and gallon relate to these things. Good luck!

W**k continues at a snail's pace on the roundhouse project. I've got an e-mail in to ATLAS to see if I can get more brick panels to fill-in the windows with, or if I'll have to plug them with sheet styrene and some kind of brick sheet. If the latter, anybody here willing to recommend a good brick material for HO scale??? Ultimately this thing is going to be a background building, but I'm dumping a lot of hours and what resources I have left into it. It'll probably be one of the most detailed background structures I've ever had.

Oh yeah, anybody seen a whoopie cushion laying around? I found one in here earlier this evening...forgot to take it with me when I stepped out. Don't see it now...

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Posted by GMTRacing on Saturday, November 28, 2009 9:58 PM

Good Evening All,

    Just a quick hello from Winchester, Va. Trip down to Summit Point was easy with little traffic and not much rain. Made it out for the last session Friday to scrub the tires and see what we might have for a car. First 5 or 6 lapswere like driving on ice with lots of wind and the temps at around 40F. Tires got warm enough to stick by the end of the session and I made some chassis adjustments based on that. Sat went well enough - the adjustments did the trick and the car is amazingly better than last time. No timing or scoring this weekend and the datalogger is on the fritz so no lap times but the car is now quick and predictable. Did root it in the gravel trap once (ran out of common sense) but no harm done. Back to the shop tomorrow morning and finish getting ready for Sebring. Flip- thanks for the advance forecast. It's been windy cloudy and cold here so I'll look forward to the trip south.

Sawyer - nice work. Can you try mixing a bit more water into the road base? You can also sponge water on after to smooth the surface. Nice of you to thank Al, but for my part, never apologize for your work. First thing I was taught performing was do your best and hold your head up!.

     Time to get some sleep. Catch y'all later.   J.R.

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Posted by Packers#1 on Saturday, November 28, 2009 7:47 PM

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW0f7AB6pb0

My latest video folks. N-joy!

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Saturday, November 28, 2009 7:30 PM

We still have some company, and we had a ham dinner. Yum. Local ham company makes goood ham. They also make some award winning bacon that we had for breakfast. The bacon has pepper corns in it. yum, again. 

Rob asked: '***Garry, how big is that lake?"

It is about 50 miles long. and it is called Lake Barkley. It is man made and is part of Land Between the Lakes. It is also the Cumberland River and we see barge traffic often.

Here is a link...

http://www.lbl.org/Home.html

I took the following photo here a year ago of the white pelicans. Yesterday there must have been 200 to 300 of them in our bay. They were fishing. No fish were anywhere nearby after they left!

I took the next picture last year from our house of two barge tows moving in opposite directions past each other.

Osprey are large birds living here that look much like eagles from the ground.

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Posted by Flashwave on Saturday, November 28, 2009 7:20 PM

If you guys go any further "down the line", your gonna end up in the trains forum...

Long time, no talk. Little done on the MRR front, stoopid school.

Oh, I will confess that Half-Moon and Northern Enterprise's tandem Christmas extravaganza is getting off the ground. I'm writing it out to follow the Ghost story from a little back, Here's the only bone I'll give ya;

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Question for you teacher types, I'm Cdet teaching in the elementary, and one of the students in my 2nd grade class keeps getting a certain math qurstion wrong. It's a computer program that spits out certin problems until you get that verson right.

The question reads "Approximately how much water would ????? item hold?" Say, a sugar bowl, a soup bowl, or a Soccor Ball, to give a few of the items suggested. Then three ansswers are given, "Gallon/Liter, quart, cup.". The purpose of the question is to comprehend sizes of the measurements. And this student has that, roughly. She understands the size of the Gallon, but when it comes to quart, pint, or cup, the problem becomes one that neither she nor I have ever had the urge to pour a cup or a quart of water into a bowl, or a Soccor Ball. I don't even think one CAN pour water into a Soccor Ball. I'd be getting them wrong to, if this was my assignment. I don't think it's a fair question, beyond being able to rule out the really big measurements. aybe for a later grade who's had time for volume and such in Science.

Anyway, I'm not sure how to help her anymore past that. Help? 

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Posted by fec153 on Saturday, November 28, 2009 7:11 PM

Hold on. I was not dissing his pike. Just the opposite. Beautifil work, I was just surprised so many cars looked as if they came out of the box. Most layouts have the cars weathered. Me, being untalented, the only weathered cars on my mess are those I bought secondhand. I really enjoy seeing what other folks can do. I truely am amazed at our teen members. Their work is worthy of mention and glad to see they get encouragement and helpful hints fromthe others here.

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Posted by Packers#1 on Saturday, November 28, 2009 7:00 PM

blownout cylinder

Sawyer: Al AND JK all at once?---man---that must've been a show--Whistling

 

I left the comments up, if you want to see. I will give Al his due though; I checked his channel out,a nd he did a good job on his how-to videos on making roads.

chris, there's just some people who haven't shaken the playground sand out of their shoes yet. I feel sorry for them.

I've got another video to upload; I'll either edit it into this post or make a new one when I upload it.

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