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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 13, 2004 5:50 PM
Is it an American or foreign design?
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Posted by andrechapelon on Friday, August 13, 2004 6:49 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by cjm89

Is it an American or foreign design?


American. With a southwestern flavor.

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Posted by joseph2 on Friday, August 13, 2004 10:37 PM
I will take a wild guess and say the Missouri Pacific,because they bought some 4-6-2's back in 1902. Joe G.
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Posted by andrechapelon on Saturday, August 14, 2004 5:44 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by joseph2

I will take a wild guess and say the Missouri Pacific,because they bought some 4-6-2's back in 1902. Joe G.


Nope.

AT&SF 1200 class 4-6-2.

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Posted by AggroJones on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 12:22 AM
Here's a no-brainer.

I spawned off the design of another large steamer. A few examples of us were
barrowed and used much futher west of home territory. Were used to haul long heavy trains over low grades. One of the most beautifully designed articulateds.

Road, wheel arrangement, and class.

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Posted by sparkingbolt on Friday, August 20, 2004 5:44 AM
SP&S 4-6-6-4 Challengers? (THE most beautifully designed Of articulateds IMHO) Dan
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 20, 2004 8:47 AM
Yeah, SP&S 4-6-6-4. Basicly the same as NP 4-6-6-4s, only the SP&S's burned oil.
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Posted by AggroJones on Friday, August 20, 2004 9:39 PM
No. But those Challengers do share a few major features as the mystery locomotive.

Another clue. We were heavy load haulers. Heavy.

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Posted by andrechapelon on Friday, August 20, 2004 10:09 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AggroJones

Here's a no-brainer.

I spawned off the design of another large steamer. A few examples of us were
barrowed and used much futher west of home territory. Were used to haul long heavy trains over low grades. One of the most beautifully designed articulateds.

Road, wheel arrangement, and class.


Sounds like a UP Challenger. A few of the CSA-1's (early Challengers) were borrowed by Southern Pacific in th late 1940's.

However, they wouldn't really qualify since CSA-1's were used by UP on Cajon, so it's out on the further west of home territory criterion.

Hmmm.

Not a Northern Pacific Z-5 2-8-8-4, either.

Duluth, Missabe & Iron Range M-4 2-8-8-4. They were used by the D&RGW during WWII in slack season.

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Posted by AggroJones on Friday, August 20, 2004 11:33 PM
Right, Chapelon.


Heavy ore load movers. Sometimes 190 cars. Quite impressive.

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Posted by sparkingbolt on Saturday, August 21, 2004 5:00 AM
Challengers are more preedee 'n them. Hmmm. Actually it would have been more of a no brainer if it was a Challenger. Dan
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Posted by andrechapelon on Saturday, August 21, 2004 7:34 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AggroJones

Right, Chapelon.


Heavy ore load movers. Sometimes 190 cars. Quite impressive.


OK, here's one for you. I was built during WWII to the design of an engine used on a western railroad but I was built for a railroad in the Southeast. While the original was an oil burner, I was a coal burner. The only real visual clue to my origin is my cab. I had an unusually small tender for a 4-8-4. What am I?

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Posted by joseph2 on Saturday, August 21, 2004 3:49 PM
Central of Georgia,Class K,451-458 Joe G.
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Posted by andrechapelon on Saturday, August 21, 2004 4:03 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by joseph2

Central of Georgia,Class K,451-458 Joe G.


Give that man a seegar! {:D]

You realize, of course, that once you've answered the question correctly, it's your turn to baffle us.

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Posted by joseph2 on Saturday, August 21, 2004 8:20 PM
In 1887 a locomotive named the "Onward" was built by the Hinkley Co. of Boston.What unique,never to be repeated feature did this 4-2-2 have? Joe G.
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Posted by CP5415 on Saturday, August 21, 2004 9:41 PM
was the stack facing forward?

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Posted by andrechapelon on Saturday, August 21, 2004 11:12 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by joseph2

In 1887 a locomotive named the "Onward" was built by the Hinkley Co. of Boston.What unique,never to be repeated feature did this 4-2-2 have? Joe G.


Piece o' cake.

The drive wheel wasn't driven directly off the cylinders. Instead a large wheel connected above the drive wheel and that wheel pressed down on the actual drivers. In fact the upper wheel was pressed down by a steam cylinder to maintain friction with the wheel that actually moved the drive wheel.

The idea was the harebrained scheme of a fellow name Eugene Fontaine.

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Posted by twhite on Saturday, August 21, 2004 11:17 PM
I was built by Baldwin just as WWII broke out.
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Posted by andrechapelon on Saturday, August 21, 2004 11:27 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by twhite

I was built by Baldwin just as WWII broke out.



That's all you're giving us?

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Posted by GDRMCo on Saturday, August 21, 2004 11:41 PM
I have one. I am a freelance design of steamer. I can be found hauling iron ore trains on a model railroad. mywheel arrange ment has not be copied. I can be found at http://www.railimages.com/gallery/micklegg?page=1 What am I? Name and road.

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Posted by joseph2 on Sunday, August 22, 2004 6:15 AM
The feature I thought was most unique was that the drive wheels were not round.They were flat sided polygons that a customer thought would improve traction. was latter rebuilt to a 4-4-0.This is from the 11-1937 issue of Railroad Magazine. Joe G.
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Posted by andrechapelon on Sunday, August 22, 2004 8:45 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by andrechapelon

QUOTE: Originally posted by twhite

I was built by Baldwin just as WWII broke out.



That's all you're giving us?

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Well, if that's the case, my guess is Pennsy S-1 #6100, 6-4-4-6, which was built in 1939 and displayed at the New York World's Fair that year.

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Posted by twhite on Sunday, August 22, 2004 11:38 AM
Andre: Sorry, i'm still learning how to use a computer, which at my age is similar to a dinosaur learning how to dance 'Swan Lake.' Okay, here goes again.
I was built by Baldwin, just before WWII.
Though hardly anyone knows it, I had more TE than 'Big Boy.'
I only usually hauled one commodity, but boy, did I haul it!

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Posted by twhite on Sunday, August 22, 2004 11:41 AM
See what I mean? This is ridiculous.
Okay, to continue--I spent a couple of winters in Colorado, enjoying the scenery.
I outlasted Big Boy by two years.
One of me still runs, but it doesn't go anyplace.
If I spoke, I'd sound like Frances MacDormand in 'Fargo.'
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Posted by andrechapelon on Sunday, August 22, 2004 11:55 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by twhite

See what I mean? This is ridiculous.
Okay, to continue--I spent a couple of winters in Colorado, enjoying the scenery.
I outlasted Big Boy by two years.
One of me still runs, but it doesn't go anyplace.
If I spoke, I'd sound like Frances MacDormand in 'Fargo.'
Who am I?


OK. You're talking about DM&IR's 2-8-8-4's.

However, the question's already been asked. Worded differently, but asked.

OK, here's an easy one for you. I was built in 1926 by Baldwin. Unlike similar engines built around the same time, I had a water tube boiler. I am one of 2 of my wheel arrangement to still exist. I also "run", but go no place. Who am I?

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Posted by twhite on Sunday, August 22, 2004 2:24 PM
Cool. You're a 4-10-2. Baldwin demonstrater. While I've got you on the subject, something I've wondered. Were SP's 4-10-2's built by Baldwin or Alco? I've never been able to get that one straight. I know Baldwin built some 3-cylinder locos (notably the Rio Grande 1600 4-8-2's) since Alco had the American rights to the inside Gresley valve gear for the 3rd cylinder and Baldwin had to implement a second Walschearts, instead. Reason I'm asking, is that I never saw an SP 4-10-2 when I was a kid, they didn't seem to run in Northern California. Like everything else in SP steam, the photos I've seen show them to be an extraordinarily handsome locomotive.
Didn't know anyone had submitted the 2-8-8-4--I didn't read all 23 pages of this forum. Think I'd better, now.
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Posted by andrechapelon on Sunday, August 22, 2004 2:33 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by twhite

Cool. You're a 4-10-2. Baldwin demonstrater. While I've got you on the subject, something I've wondered. Were SP's 4-10-2's built by Baldwin or Alco? I've never been able to get that one straight. I know Baldwin built some 3-cylinder locos (notably the Rio Grande 1600 4-8-2's) since Alco had the American rights to the inside Gresley valve gear for the 3rd cylinder and Baldwin had to implement a second Walschearts, instead. Reason I'm asking, is that I never saw an SP 4-10-2 when I was a kid, they didn't seem to run in Northern California. Like everything else in SP steam, the photos I've seen show them to be an extraordinarily handsome locomotive.
Didn't know anyone had submitted the 2-8-8-4--I didn't read all 23 pages of this forum. Think I'd better, now.


Correct.

Actually, the SP 4-10-2's did run at one time in NorCal. I've seen pictures of them in Santa Clara and San Jose They were very attractive locomotives.

They were all ALCO built.


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Posted by Mark300 on Sunday, August 22, 2004 3:50 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by twhite

I was built by Baldwin just as WWII broke out.


Western Maryland's M2 Challengers; No's 1200 to 1211 - late 1941.

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Posted by AggroJones on Thursday, August 26, 2004 6:06 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by twhite

Andre: Sorry, i'm still learning how to use a computer, which at my age is similar to a dinosaur learning how to dance 'Swan Lake.' Okay, here goes again.
I was built by Baldwin, just before WWII.
Though hardly anyone knows it, I had more TE than 'Big Boy.'
I only usually hauled one commodity, but boy, did I haul it!




N&W A 2-6-6-4?

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 26, 2004 8:14 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by twhite

Andre: Sorry, i'm still learning how to use a computer, which at my age is similar to a dinosaur learning how to dance 'Swan Lake.' Okay, here goes again.
I was built by Baldwin, just before WWII.
Though hardly anyone knows it, I had more TE than 'Big Boy.'
I only usually hauled one commodity, but boy, did I haul it!




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