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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 8:25 PM
NC&St.L "Dixies", which I think was a 4-8-4?
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Posted by M636C on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 11:51 PM
Yes,

Nashville, Chattanooga and St Louis class J-3 "Dixie" Type.

("Dixie" is an abbreviation of "Mason -Dixon", a pre-civil war line separating areas where the keeping of slaves was permitted and where it was not.)

The first group of J-3 class had footplate valances painted yellow, and were known as "Yellow Jackets", the later units built during WW II did not, and had stripes painted on the footplate edges and were known as "Stripes".

OK that's enough for me, someone else ask a question!

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 7:37 PM
I am a 1930 ALCO product that ran on a Upper-Midwestern line.
There were only 3 of us built, and we are the largest and heaviest of our wheel arrangement ever built.
We never were assigned to a glamourous train, and are a mostly forgotten member of our wheel arrangement.
We are named after an ocean.
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Posted by M636C on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 7:54 PM
CStPM&O (C&NW) 4-6-2 class E-3

(I had to look that up! My first thought was CMStP&P F-6 4-6-4 (called Baltic type) but they were Baldwin and there were a lot more of them, and they weren't that heavy).

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 8:40 PM
Yes.
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Posted by M636C on Thursday, July 1, 2004 7:51 AM
Oh well, something slightly different.

Two Midwestern roads each bought small numbers of large very fast passenger locomotives from one builder in 1938, (six to one, nine to the other). They each had seven foot driving wheels, and were much the same size and weight, and even looked a little alike, but almost no part was the same on each. Although the two roads were fierce competitors, the two types did entirely different work on different routes.
Name the two roads and the wheel arrangement, extra points for the road classes.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 1, 2004 7:12 PM
Milwaukee Road class F-7 4-6-4 "Baltics";

and CNW class E-4 Hudsons.

BTW, I wonder where AggroJones is?[?]
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Posted by M636C on Thursday, July 1, 2004 9:35 PM
Correct, of course!

I have German language Swiss published book that has plans of the two types, and I sometimes I just flip between the pages while wondering why Alco wasn't able to talk them into a single design!

CNN hasn't announced that California has slipped into the sea, so I guess Aggro's still there! I guess he'll be back soon. But, now it's your turn!

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 2, 2004 8:54 PM
Well, the CNW and the Milwaukee were like the Pennsy and the New York Central of the Midwest! Would the PRR want a locomotive that looked exacly like a Mohawk or a Hudson on it's lines? Anyway, here's the next mystery locomotive...

I am a BIG eastern steamer.

I have almost 8,000 horsepower.

We were built in the early 1940's, but were scrapped by the mid-50's.

I have 4 engines, but am not an articulated design (I am guessing this will give it away.)
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Posted by AggroJones on Friday, July 2, 2004 9:13 PM
The PRR Q2 4-4-6-4.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 2, 2004 9:31 PM
Hey, MC636, you were right, here's Aggro!

Of course, nothing but the Penssy Q-2.
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Posted by AggroJones on Friday, July 2, 2004 11:44 PM
I am the first class of many in this wheel arrangement built for my road.
65 units built total for this road and its subsidiaries.
The steamer's appearance in later classes didn't differ that much from me.
I wasn't a speed demon.

I was still being used by a massive western road long after super-power came out. I am an oil burner.

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Posted by M636C on Saturday, July 3, 2004 7:33 AM
Aggro,

Maybe a few more clues?

CB&Q 2-10-2 ? (no... that's an answer to a cjm89 question isn't it?)

And cjm89, I reckon that Alco could have put the same loco under both CMStP&P F-7 and C&NW E-4 streamlining without anyone knowing the difference!

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 3, 2004 10:51 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by M636C



CB&Q 2-10-2 ? (no... that's an answer to a cjm89 question isn't it?)

Peter


[:D]

Actually, I don't really care for the Q's Santa Fe types, their Superpower desings and Mikados are a different story though.....
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Posted by M636C on Monday, July 5, 2004 8:39 PM
Guys,

The index shows that Aggro made the most recent post, but I can't see it, if he did. The last I can see is cjm89's 10:51 July 3 post, page 19.

Are there more clues, please Aggro?

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Posted by AggroJones on Monday, July 5, 2004 10:14 PM
I was still being used by a massive western road long after super-power came out. I burn oil from my vandy tender. My wheel base is long and rigid.

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Posted by M636C on Tuesday, July 6, 2004 1:32 AM
The obvious answer to the last clue is...

UP 4-12-2, 9000 series on the UP itself.

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Posted by AggroJones on Wednesday, July 7, 2004 12:05 PM
Nope. 65 units total built in this first class for this other south western road and its subsidiaries.

PS- I though the 4-12-2 could hit over 55mph? Isn't that fast?

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Posted by joseph2 on Wednesday, July 7, 2004 8:49 PM
Southern Pacific's 4-10-2 three cylinder locomotives will be my guess.Joe G.
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Posted by AggroJones on Friday, July 9, 2004 2:52 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by joseph2

Southern Pacific's 4-10-2 three cylinder locomotives will be my guess.Joe G.


Right road. Right number of drivers. Different locomotive.

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Posted by joseph2 on Saturday, July 10, 2004 7:51 AM
Here is another hint : a brass dealers website says the SP had both 2-10-0 and 2-10-2 types. Joe G.
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Posted by AggroJones on Thursday, July 15, 2004 5:46 PM
Southern Pacific F-1 2-10-2

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 15, 2004 7:59 PM
Mind if I do one?

I'm a big steamer used by a northern road. (way up north)

I shared MANY characteristics with my smaller counter parts.

My wheel arangement is quite unusual (for my RR)

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Posted by AggroJones on Thursday, July 15, 2004 9:11 PM
Canadian Pacific I1a 4-8-2?

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 15, 2004 9:14 PM
Nope. Right RR though.
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Posted by AggroJones on Friday, July 16, 2004 10:51 PM
CP K1a 4-8-4? Only 2 units made.

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Posted by joseph2 on Saturday, July 17, 2004 5:50 AM
The Canadian Pacific 2-10-4 was a big steam locomotive. Joe G.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 17, 2004 9:48 AM
Correct Joe.



The Canadian Pacific 2-10-4 "Selkirks" were mighty fine pullers. And their tastefully streamlined bodys gave a lot of similarities to the 4-4-4 Jubilies and the 4-6-4 Hudsons.
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Posted by AggroJones on Saturday, July 17, 2004 9:32 PM
You said the wheel arrangement was unusual for CP. Only 2 mountains and 2 northerns were built. Weren't there hella CP Texans?

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Posted by joseph2 on Saturday, July 17, 2004 11:54 PM
I am thinking of a one of a kind oil burning cab forward.Although owned by a western railroad,its neither a Mallet or a Southern Pacific locomotive.Very ugly. Name the railroad and wheel arangement. Joe G.

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