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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 17, 2004 4:34 PM
Bangor & Aroostook 4-8-2?
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Posted by andrechapelon on Friday, September 17, 2004 11:57 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by andrechapelon

QUOTE: Originally posted by M636C

It is harder to ask than answer.

If Andre isn't going to ask one I'll try.

These were the biggest passenger locomotives of an Eastern road, and were built to the basically the same design over a period of thirty two years, from two builders.

Road and Wheel Arrangement to answer.

Peter


Reading 4-6-2's (G1sa thru G3), built from 1916 thru 1948. Most by Reading, some by Baldwin.

Andre



OK, here's one for you.

I was one of the lighter engines of my type built, although not the lightest.
I was built by ALCO over a period of 16 years (same time span as the Reading 4-6-2's).
There were only ten of us.
The last one of us was built 10 years after the 8th and 9th were built.

Name the railroad and wheel arrangement.

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Posted by andrechapelon on Friday, September 17, 2004 9:23 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by M636C

It is harder to ask than answer.

If Andre isn't going to ask one I'll try.

These were the biggest passenger locomotives of an Eastern road, and were built to the basically the same design over a period of thirty two years, from two builders.

Road and Wheel Arrangement to answer.

Peter


Reading 4-6-2's (G1sa thru G3), built from 1916 thru 1948. Most by Reading, some by Baldwin.

Andre



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Posted by M636C on Friday, September 17, 2004 1:01 AM
It is harder to ask than answer.

If Andre isn't going to ask one I'll try.

These were the biggest passenger locomotives of an Eastern road, and were built to the basically the same design over a period of thirty two years, from two builders.

Road and Wheel Arrangement to answer.

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Posted by andrechapelon on Thursday, September 16, 2004 9:27 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AggroJones

QUOTE: Originally posted by andrechapelon

So that leaves only one possibility and that's Bessemer and Lake Erie H-1 variant 2-10-4's, a number of which were sent to the DM&IR.

OK, what did I win?

Andre




Very good.




Too bad there's not a railroad version of Jeopardy.

Alex: "In 1844 I invented a new type of valve gear for steam locomotives."

Andre: "Who is Egide Walschaerts?

Ken Jennings, eat your heart out.

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Posted by AggroJones on Thursday, September 16, 2004 9:16 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by andrechapelon

So that leaves only one possibility and that's Bessemer and Lake Erie H-1 variant 2-10-4's, a number of which were sent to the DM&IR.

OK, what did I win?

Andre




Very good.

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Posted by andrechapelon on Thursday, September 16, 2004 5:13 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AggroJones

Clue.......

I'm not articulated, but am as large as one.


I don't want to give too much away. You are an creepily good guesser.


This pretty much eliminates every locomotive other than a 2-10-4, one of IC's "Super Central" 2-10-2's or a Reading 2-10-2. However, the latter two were not built over a 15 year period and weren't transferred in any case.

Can't be Santa Fe 2-10-4's. They were sent EAST in 1956 to work on the Pennsy and they were all built by Baldwin anyway.

Can't be a combo of C&O T-1/Pennsy J-1. Although 1st to last built covers a 15 year period (and multiple builders) there was no transfer of locomotives.

So that leaves only one possibility and that's Bessemer and Lake Erie H-1 variant 2-10-4's, a number of which were sent to the DM&IR.

OK, what did I win?

Andre

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Posted by AggroJones on Thursday, September 16, 2004 4:01 PM
Clue.......

I'm not articulated, but am as large as one.


I don't want to give too much away. You are an creepily good guesser.

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Posted by M636C on Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:51 AM
Norfolk and Western 2-8-8-2 ?

They were certainly built over a long period, and ten transferred to AT&SF

If not, another clue please.

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Posted by AggroJones on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 6:44 PM
Mind if I cut in?

A large bunch of us were transfered to another railroad further west. Our group had its members constructed by different steam locomotive manufactures. Tractive effort is on par with some Challenger types. Our entire gaggle was built over a 15 year period.
One example of us is still in existance.

Road and wheel arrangement please.

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Posted by M636C on Sunday, September 12, 2004 9:36 PM
Andre,

Why am I not surprised! You are, of course right, and it's your turn again!

It's worth pointing out that even UP accepted a few USRA locomotives, and they were generally accepted as good designs, although not used much in the West.

Incidentally, there was some sort of argument between the British Great Western and the Dutch State railways about who had the biggest/heaviest 4-6-0 in Europe. The Dutch loco was bigger (because of clearances), but I don't recall the details.

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Posted by andrechapelon on Saturday, September 11, 2004 7:49 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by M636C

All right, this might be harder.

This Railroad was so opposed to the USRA that during the USRA period, they built their own locomotives, to existing designs (but not the latest designs) in their own workshops. Two classes were involved, one of which was said to be the heaviest of its type.

To answer, we want the Railroad name, and at least one of the two wheel arrangements involved. To show off, the two railroad classes could be included.

This seems like a hard question to me, anyway!

Peter


Southern Pacific built C-10 2-8-0's in its own shops during the USRA period as well as T-32 4-6-0's. SP #2371 was originally built as class T-32 in 1917, but was rebuilt in 1928 as class T-40, reputed to be the heaviest 4-6-0 in existence http://www.yesteryeardepot.com/SP2371.JPG.

Other T-32's were supposed to have been rebuilt to class T-40, but never were.

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Posted by M636C on Friday, September 10, 2004 11:52 PM
All right, this might be harder.

This Railroad was so opposed to the USRA that during the USRA period, they built their own locomotives, to existing designs (but not the latest designs) in their own workshops. Two classes were involved, one of which was said to be the heaviest of its type.

To answer, we want the Railroad name, and at least one of the two wheel arrangements involved. To show off, the two railroad classes could be included.

This seems like a hard question to me, anyway!

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Posted by andrechapelon on Friday, September 10, 2004 7:19 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by M636C

Andre,

How about SP (T&NO) class M-21 2-6-0

They can't have used all of the boiler, could they! Maybe just the firebox end?

Peter


You're correct. That was TOO easy.

I don't know. I wasn't there.

Incidentally, it's your turn.

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Posted by M636C on Friday, September 10, 2004 7:16 AM
Andre,

How about SP (T&NO) class M-21 2-6-0

They can't have used all of the boiler, could they! Maybe just the firebox end?

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Posted by andrechapelon on Friday, September 10, 2004 6:46 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by M636C

Andre,

Right - I thought I'd make it easy by sticking to the same wheel arrangement as the previous question! They looked a lot like New York Cental locomotives, both the cab and the front end layout.

Now it's your turn! (By the way, when I logged in, this thread had had 5000 viewings - some of us aren't asking questions!)

Peter


OK. Here goes.

I am the largest of my wheel arrangement ever built.

I was an obsolete wheel arrangement when built in the late 1920's.

I used the boilers off retired 2-6-6-2's.

I was built in my railroad's own shops.

What am I?

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Posted by M636C on Thursday, September 9, 2004 7:57 PM
Andre,

Right - I thought I'd make it easy by sticking to the same wheel arrangement as the previous question! They looked a lot like New York Cental locomotives, both the cab and the front end layout.

Now it's your turn! (By the way, when I logged in, this thread had had 5000 viewings - some of us aren't asking questions!)

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Posted by andrechapelon on Thursday, September 9, 2004 7:39 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by M636C

OK, I'll try!

These were the last of their type, only four of them were built. They looked like locomotives of an associated larger road, but were a distinctive color when new, based on the name of a passenger train they hauled as part of their dual service operation.

Road Name and Wheel Arrangement to answer, road numbers optional.

Peter


You must mean Rutland L-1 4-8-2's #90 thru 93 built by ALCO in 1946 and originally painted green. Among their duties was an occasional stint on The Green Mountain Flyer.

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Posted by M636C on Thursday, September 9, 2004 7:23 AM
OK, I'll try!

These were the last of their type, only four of them were built. They looked like locomotives of an associated larger road, but were a distinctive color when new, based on the name of a passenger train they hauled as part of their dual service operation.

Road Name and Wheel Arrangement to answer, road numbers optional.

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Posted by AggroJones on Tuesday, September 7, 2004 2:38 PM
By earthtone, I was refering to the 2 tone gray units. Personally, I like them in black.

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Posted by M636C on Tuesday, September 7, 2004 6:47 AM
Aggro,

While andre is right about only 7002 being painted brown ("Leaf Brown", later replaced on streamliners by "Harbor Mist Grey"), some MTs were painted two tone grey post WWII, it all depends on what you mean by "earth color".

(As you should be able to tell from the timing, my post was written before I saw his!)

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Posted by M636C on Tuesday, September 7, 2004 6:41 AM
Aggro,

Your Mountain type sounds like a UP 7000 to me!

7002 certainly had one set of Boxpoks when rebuilt with Walscheart valve gear (originally had Young valve gear)

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Posted by andrechapelon on Tuesday, September 7, 2004 6:36 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AggroJones

My relatively high drivers allow me to fly with the varnish.
I have a slick, clean lookin' body.
All my drivers are not of the same type.
Vanderbilt tenders are not uncommon on smaller engines from my road.


Union Pacific MT-73 4-8-2.

IIRC, only one was painted brown to match - engine 7002, specially painted for the 49er

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Posted by AggroJones on Monday, September 6, 2004 8:20 PM
Oh yeah. [:I]

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 6, 2004 8:00 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AggroJones

QUOTE: Originally posted by twhite

Andre: Sorry, i'm still learning how to use a computer, which at my age is similar to a dinosaur learning how to dance 'Swan Lake.' Okay, here goes again.
I was built by Baldwin, just before WWII.
Though hardly anyone knows it, I had more TE than 'Big Boy.'
I only usually hauled one commodity, but boy, did I haul it!




N&W A 2-6-6-4?
N and W built all of it's A class 2-6-6-4s, silly[:p][;)]
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Posted by AggroJones on Sunday, September 5, 2004 9:33 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by BoRockhard

Southern Pacific MT-2 4-8-2?


Right wheel arrangment. Wrong road.

Another clue.

A few of us were painted an earth tone to match our roads passenger trains.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 5, 2004 7:31 PM
Southern Pacific MT-2 4-8-2?
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Posted by AggroJones on Saturday, September 4, 2004 7:33 PM
My relatively high drivers allow me to fly with the varnish.
I have a slick, clean lookin' body.
All my drivers are not of the same type.
Vanderbilt tenders are not uncommon on smaller engines from my road.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 26, 2004 8:14 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by twhite

Andre: Sorry, i'm still learning how to use a computer, which at my age is similar to a dinosaur learning how to dance 'Swan Lake.' Okay, here goes again.
I was built by Baldwin, just before WWII.
Though hardly anyone knows it, I had more TE than 'Big Boy.'
I only usually hauled one commodity, but boy, did I haul it!




DMIR's 2-8-8-4 Yellowstones?
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Posted by AggroJones on Thursday, August 26, 2004 6:06 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by twhite

Andre: Sorry, i'm still learning how to use a computer, which at my age is similar to a dinosaur learning how to dance 'Swan Lake.' Okay, here goes again.
I was built by Baldwin, just before WWII.
Though hardly anyone knows it, I had more TE than 'Big Boy.'
I only usually hauled one commodity, but boy, did I haul it!




N&W A 2-6-6-4?

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