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Posted by wetidlerjr on Wednesday, October 8, 2008 5:00 AM

Good Morning from Tipton IN !  Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, October 8, 2008 5:03 AM
Good morning.

It's 62 and clear this morning. The high will be around 80 and it will be partly cloudy. It's definitely cooling off. That barbed wire fence between here and the north pole must have fallen down!

Got the new crossover put in yesterday. Today I'll be pouring the plaster in around it to lock it in place. It'll be a very thin mix at first so it'll reach into all the areas under the track then thicker as it nears the top. Also got to go see an individual who owes me a bunch of green backs. I should be able to squeeze 5 portraits of Ben Franklin out of that turnip. Other than that it should be another slow day like yesterday was.

Today's Weather for:
Sundown, LA  71446-6114      10/8/2008


Wind Chill:  61°F
Humidity:  72%
Dew Point:  52°F

So Far Today
High:  63°F
Low:  61°F
Rain:  0.00"
Rain Rate:  0.00"/h
Gust:  7mph NNW

Today  High: 80    Mostly sunny. Highs around 80. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.

Tonight  Low: 52    Mostly clear. Lows in the lower 50s. Northeast winds around 5 mph.


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Posted by LSWrr on Wednesday, October 8, 2008 6:51 AM

Good morning!

Today: Rain, mainly after 10am. High near 67. Breezy, with a south wind between 15 and 23 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New rainfall amounts between a half and three quarters of an inch possible.

Tonight: Showers likely, mainly before 9pm. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 57. Breezy, with a west wind between 16 and 23 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New rainfall amounts between a tenth and quarter of an inch possible

Jeff, the red building on the right in your last picture; is that a WS factory with the silos?

Looking forward to the long holiday weekend coming up, might get some MRRing done down in the basement.  I have a motor for the turn table I need to install and finish up working on some rolling stock.  Sunday I bought a few Mantua (1970's) tank cars all metal very nice and they roll forever with a slight push.

Lee

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Posted by Paul W. Beverung on Wednesday, October 8, 2008 7:05 AM

Morning Gang: It's a little chilly here this morning. I'd say it's cold but the guys NOCB would laugh at me, 52F is nothing to them.

I see that Jeff and Lee are here. I'll have a coffee and how about one of those vertual apple fritters. I'll tell my doctor that vertual sugar doesn't count.

Lee you should be seeing some of that neat low fog on the lake this morning.

Rob here's hoping that it is raining as you read this.

See you all later. 

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, October 8, 2008 7:14 AM
 LSWrr wrote:

Jeff, the red building on the right in your last picture; is that a WS factory with the silos?

Right now it could probably be considered as that. Actually that's a small freight warehouse from Bachmann. It's a single piece structure that I liberated from a larger scene.

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Posted by JimRCGMO on Wednesday, October 8, 2008 8:50 AM

Good Morning, Zoe, I'll have a glass of Ed's OJ (the tankers arrived? Great!!), cup of coffee, some scrambled eggs and hash browns, and a glass of milk along with that. Thanks! 

 Cederstrand wrote:

***Paul, it's a good thing you're not sandblasting N scale cars.Wink [;)]Laugh [(-D] No rain yet, but it looks like there is some entering our state from Alabama. We hope it will be raining by morning.

Rob, if Paul were to sandblast N scale cars, would that drop them to Z scale?? Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Hope that rain has reached you by this morning, though, Rob. Careful of those hornets and wasps and bears, oh my! Not something to be bothered, no siree! Shock [:O]Wink [;)]

Jeff, more good progress on the crossover (and I like those silos, too. Whistling [:-^]

Going to do some figuring on bills today and see what kind of MRR money I can free up from what's left. I checked yesterday, and Hobby Lobby's not running their 40 percent off coupon this week. Sigh [sigh] I saw that Dallas Model Works has a depressed center flat car (Walthers) and some NYC boxcars (P2K) on sale, so I may get some of those.

I'll be in the corner booth while I work on my breakfast. Dinner [dinner]

 

Blessings,

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Posted by JimRCGMO on Wednesday, October 8, 2008 8:52 AM

Oh, what the heck - Paul, seeing you munching on that apple fritter just entice me. Zoe, I'll have one of these fritters, too, please. Thanks!

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Posted by C&O Fan on Wednesday, October 8, 2008 9:05 AM

Morning all

Guess i missed the birthday party !

Oh well Happy B-Day <img src=" border="0" width="81" height="26" />  Rob even though i'm late

I've been busy doing roof repair on my mower shed

I'll be out back searching through the dumpster for a piece of Birthday cake !!

TTYL

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Posted by LSWrr on Wednesday, October 8, 2008 11:08 AM

Paul you should try driving a boat in that "neat" low fog on the lake. Sad [:(]

Right now we have a drizzeling rain in the mid 60's and fog.

Lee

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Posted by Cox 47 on Wednesday, October 8, 2008 11:26 AM

Good Morning All...We had clouds but sun is out now and its 56 with a north-west wind thats chilly...I'll have a Big bowl of chili with cheese and a diet Coke please...Thank you..I started working on another caboose stripped old lettering off gonna decal it for IC...

Here is another photo that a friend sent me thought you UP folks might like...

 

 

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Wednesday, October 8, 2008 11:43 AM

Hello ...

We lost internet service last night and it's back now.

Also, our water service was disrupted this morning. Construction crews at one of the houses being built on our road hit the water main. Water is reconnected now. Sometimes we take things for granted such as toilet flushing: don't we?  

I'm glad I have the model railroad to keep me occupied and keep my mind off other stuff.

Our friend from church is home from cancer surgery. I said she had many people praying for her, and she said she is very grateful to all who have been praying. She'll need a lot of rest. No news yet on the pathology reports.

Happy Model Railroading.

 

 

 

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Posted by Cox 47 on Wednesday, October 8, 2008 3:21 PM
B___U____M_____P !!! Found the dinner on page 2....Jerry
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Posted by JimRCGMO on Wednesday, October 8, 2008 7:36 PM

Evening, Chloe - how about a nice grilled steak with potatoes and some veggies. Thanks!

Jerry, glad you gave us a bump - never would've found the Diner 'cept for hearing that sound as I was heading over this way. Nice photo of that UP loco, too. Anyone know the model of that engine? (I'm having trouble seeing all the wheels because of the angle) 

Got a nice suprise today - I'd ordered online the DPM and WS catalogs (they're now both part of WS, if you hadn't heard), and I got an order confirmation email. Then tonight, I get an email telling me that they're giving me a credit back of $1.95 on my order. Nice!

Oh, I did talk with a local Charter rep on the phone tonight, who offered me a better deal than I'd got when I'd called them - about $15-20/month cheaper, for their highspeed (10MB DL/ 1MB upload speed) for the first year. I figure after the first year, I'll look at who else has a good offer, and tell Charter they can match it or I'll switch. Since my primary email now is a web-based email, I can switch at any point without worries about dropped emails. Yesiree, love that free enterprise competition. Smile [:)]

Garry, good to hear that your friend from church is home and recuperating. Tell her Thumbs Up [tup] from us. Yeah!! [yeah]

Sawyer, that's the way. Keep eating those good meals and drinking your Ed's OJ in the Diner, resting well, and keep your back in shape there. Cool [8D]

DerJohn, maybe my calendar is off, but it showed Yom Kippur starting this evening. Confused [%-)] Dunno... You making good progress on your crane? Sounds like it. Were you able to get all your materials at the LHS today to continue your work?

CN Charlie, sounds like your Westie (Jamie) takes about as many meds as some of the ORFs in the Diner. Oops [oops]Whistling [:-^]

Rob, how'd you do on your rain today? Got any rain barrels filled up yet? 

Got this pic today from my daughter, of a certain Drew who's trying to figure out what to do with a moustache (Drew's daddy doesn't have any facial hair, and sports the shaved head style that some younger guys like nowadays). This pic was pre-haircut, by the way...

and here's a pic of yon grandson after one of his recent expeditions into the world of semi-solid food...

I think he's still learning about washcloths, also. Whistling [:-^] 

Just thought I'd share those with you Diners - didn't want to spoil your appetite with that other fella in there with Drew. Wink [;)]

I'll get back to my dinner now. Angel [angel] Angel [angel] for healing and comfort for those in need, including for a certain football player. Thumbs Up [tup] 

 

Blessings and a good night's rest,

Jim in Cape Girardeau 

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Posted by Packers#1 on Wednesday, October 8, 2008 7:40 PM

YYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WE WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

22-6. And they WERE undefeated!

Ok, so here's what I did: I sucked at the beginning, got chewed out by coach twice, commited a facemask while tackling the QB, then things turned around. I almost blocked a punt, which on the return, the guy running it back fumbled. Then they went on a LONG drive, but I stopped it when the other team fumbled and I got the recovery, got it with my hands, scooped it against my gut, and then nobody got their hands under there. Then a little later I got a tackle on a quicker QB, #18. He was running out w/ three BIG guys in front of him, but I'm there at their side and they don't see me, and I start running after them, and I latch on, and the QB runs a good distance toward the sidelines (didn't go upfield though) and i finally tackled him. Then our D got a crucial stop in the 4th which pretty much sealed the deal on the win. I did all right, sucked, commited a penalty, then got some good plays, then just played well. But all we have to do is win next week, and then it's the CHAMPIONSHIP GAME! Go RAMS!

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Posted by Packer on Wednesday, October 8, 2008 8:03 PM

Hey ya'll

Sawyer, Congrats on winning.You're starting to remind me of me when I was younger; guess it means I'm starting to get old.

Well I played football with a group of friends today. I dominated pretty much everywhere (QB, reciever, defense). The last time I played some of these friends, they complained on how hard I was to tackle. Well, they are doing that now, and complaining about how quick I am. Then they got smart; they had a big guy jump on my back when I had the ball, then they had someone else lay down in fron of me. I think in the process of that I may have hurt my left calf, since it is quite sore.

Last night I put a bid on a ABA set of CB&Q F3s with sound/dcc; I probably would have sold them, repainted them, or paint them. Well ebay screwed up on me when I put a bid in, and as a result I didn't win it. I am quite furious with ebay now beause it didn't screw up on me, I would have had that set for under 200.

I went to the MR club and ran my rotarty plow with my Gp9s, although there isn't any snow on the layout. Then I ran my DRGW passenger set (I'm trying to remeber to get pics in action), and had no problems since I added weight to a car that was giving me trouble.

Vincent

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2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.

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Posted by last mountain & eastern hogger on Wednesday, October 8, 2008 8:41 PM

Whistling [:-^]

Way to go SawyerCool [8D]Yeah!! [yeah]Wow!! [wow]

We are really happy for you. 

Keep up the good work but keep your hands off the face mask.   The Evil [}:)] made me do it. !!!!!

Will look for the report from the play offs.

Johnboy out......... 

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Posted by Paul W. Beverung on Wednesday, October 8, 2008 9:38 PM

Evening Gang:

Lee when I was in Viet Nam I had to take control of a UH-1-D and fly it out of a valley with high mountains on each side. We were in the soup at the time and low level. The AC was disoriented and had started into a dead mans turn. I managed to get back on course and climbed to a better altitude. After a turn and counting the minutes and air speed I decended and luckly broke out in the clear over the plains. I know about fog.

I was wrong about the temp this morning. It was 42f when we took the granddaughter down for the school bus. I'm hoping that we get a winter this year. That would help keep the bug population down next year.

tomorrow I have to take the portable track out to Clark Gardens and get it set up. Then out to John's ranch and get the flat bed trailer to haul the locomotive and cars with. I will also take my 1.5 inch scale diesel switcher and maybe an unfinished car, trucks, and a pair of unassembled couplers.

My prayers to all those in need.

Good Night All

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Posted by Cederstrand on Wednesday, October 8, 2008 10:32 PM

Glass of cool lemon water, please & thanks. 

***Sawyer, CONGRATS on the WIN!Thumbs Up [tup]

***Jerry, that's an excellent UP pic. It's now my latest desktop background. Thanks for posting it.

RAIN...GLORIOUS RAIN...and LOTS of it. Barn tank is FULL and house tank is only a couple inches from full. EXCELLENT! Have not been down to check the creek, so hopefully it's more than a puddle by now.

I was reading posts on the perfect train room post and seems many folks suggest track lighting is kinda hot? With ceilings over 9', is this still going to be an issue? I use track lighting in my studio and have not noticed any heat from them, although the studio has a pretty high ceiling. Just seems to me with track lighting (each on it's own dimmer switch) I will be able to play with time of day, which would be nice. Any thoughts?

Told our contractor today that I would take care of all the insulation. Meeting with a spray foam guy in the morning to get an estimate. Later I can add some regular fiberglass insulation over the spray foam, just like I did with my studio. Tight as a tick and oh so quiet. I don't like working with the fiberglass stuff, but I am concerned with the $$$ (short term) and don't mind taking over some of the work, as long as it gets deducted from the contract amount.

After getting his quote, our contractor is going to do the electrical himself. I guess this is fine, as I can work with him (so to speak) to make sure all lights & recepticals are where I want them. (perhaps he's thinking of the money too?)

Heating and air guys should finish up tomorrow.

Off to the barn to put MsBeDowntown up and let Tinytoons out. Have a great night all and thanks again for all the kind birthday wishes. Much appreciated. Cowboy [C):-)] Rob

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, October 8, 2008 10:53 PM

Special delivery from Orlando (Trainmaster) earlier today.


Athearn rtr BNSF SD40.

Athearn rtr UP 50' flat with 45' trailer.

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Posted by Cederstrand on Thursday, October 9, 2008 12:26 AM

***Jeffrey, please tell me you're not going to re-paint that beautiful Union Pacific trailer!?!?Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Wife wants to take a trip before years end to see two layouts: http://www.unioncountyhistory.org/page3/page3.html and http://www.georgiamodelrailroad.com/  She said both are in the same direction from here and that we should see both on the same trip. Both layouts have a circus or carnival, so will be of special interest to her for idea generation.

Good night! Cowboy [C):-)] Rob 

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Thursday, October 9, 2008 12:40 AM
 Cederstrand wrote:

***Jeffrey, please tell me you're not going to re-paint that beautiful Union Pacific trailer!?!?Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Nope. I'm just going to strip the graphics off so it's a white undecorated trailer.

I have one of these:

and you steam guys don't want to know what's happening to it at this time.

 

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10-09-2008
Posted by wetidlerjr on Thursday, October 9, 2008 4:37 AM

Good Morning from Tipton IN !  Big Smile [:D]

Clown [:o)]

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Thursday, October 9, 2008 7:15 AM
Good morning.

It's 60 and clear. The high will be in the mid 80's and it will be clear and sunny.

I've got all the trackwork for the crossover done with the exception of some ballast to be laid in. The state has seen fit to give me a team of prisoners to help with that. I'll be sure to put them to good use.

Today's Weather for:
Sundown, LA  71446-6114      10/9/2008


Wind Chill:  61°F
Humidity:  81%
Dew Point:  55°F

So Far Today
High:  61°F
Low:  58°F
Rain:  0.00"
Rain Rate:  0.00"/h
Gust:  3mph NNE

Today  High: 85    Sunny. Highs in the mid 80s. Northeast winds around 5 mph.

Tonight  Low: 55    Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 50s. East winds around 5 mph.


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Posted by LSWrr on Thursday, October 9, 2008 7:24 AM

Good morning!

Today: Sunny, with a high near 69. West wind between 14 and 17 mph.

Tonight: Mostly clear, with a low around 47. West wind between 11 and 14 mph.

Lee

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Posted by C&O Fan on Thursday, October 9, 2008 7:34 AM
 Cederstrand wrote:

Snip

I was reading posts on the perfect train room post and seems many folks suggest track lighting is kinda hot? With ceilings over 9', is this still going to be an issue? I use track lighting in my studio and have not noticed any heat from them, although the studio has a pretty high ceiling. Just seems to me with track lighting (each on it's own dimmer switch) I will be able to play with time of day, which would be nice. Any thoughts?

Snip

Track lighting can put out heat

the high intensity type bulbs get really warm

I have 2 of those and they are much hotter than the rest of

the regular incandesent bulbs

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Posted by LSWrr on Thursday, October 9, 2008 8:28 AM

Train room lighting:

I use compact floresent bulbs, but you can't use a dimmer switch with them and in the winter you may need to wait 5 - 10 minutes for them to warm up, but they only put out a little heat.

Paul; our birds were having some issues with the fog yeasterday.

Lee

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Posted by JimRCGMO on Thursday, October 9, 2008 8:30 AM

Morning, Zoe - glass of OJ, cup of coffee, eggs and toast with blackberry jam, please, and a glass of milk, too. Thanks!

Rob, it may be that some in that layout topic are comparing track lighting to the fluorescent (spelling?) lights or shop lights that many people use, which would be much cooler than the track lights. Good to hear you got some rain.Thumbs Up [tup] Sounds like your contractor is trying to work for you (and with you). That's good, also.

Sawyer, way to go - great to hear how you (and your team) did! Now, on to the championship, guys! Yeah!! [yeah]

Looks like we'll be having another sunny (though a bit cooler) day today. About 46 F with some fog in and around rivers or other low-lying areas. S'pposed to only get into the low 70's (F) today, so will be nice out. I broke down and got a long sleeve shirt out for today.

I'll be in the window booth, if anyone else comes in.

 

Blessings,

Jim in Cape Girardeau 

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Posted by Cederstrand on Thursday, October 9, 2008 8:53 AM

please & thanks.

***Jeffrey, are most of the figures in that work crew from China? Curious.

Not enough sleep, but must get up to meet that foam insulation guy. Why didn't I say "afternoon".Sleepy [|)]

Have a great day all. Cowboy [C):-)] Rob

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Posted by rtraincollector on Thursday, October 9, 2008 10:26 AM

Morning all Got up at 5:30 a.m. got dressed made lunch and dinner as have O.T. and got work ( stop at hardee's as they have 2 Bacon, Egg, and Cheese biscuits for $2.22 going on here ) ate them went into work put lunch and dinner in fridge boss goes your scheduled off today as you light duty doesn't end till tonigh. I go wait I thought it was last night. Nope so sent me home I get to go back tomorrow oh well one more day and I lose 4 O.T. Sad [:(]

Well not much else happening will talk to you all later

Life's hard, even harder if your stupid  John Wayne

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Thursday, October 9, 2008 11:31 AM
 Cederstrand wrote:

***Jeffrey, are most of the figures in that work crew from China? Curious.

Yes they are. They're from Model Power. Made in China. Seems like it's getting harder and harder to get anything that ISN'T made there.

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