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Posted by GMTRacing on Monday, April 21, 2008 8:27 AM

Jeff,  Too bad it's to be retired, but here is your prototype.

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Posted by pcarrell on Monday, April 21, 2008 8:28 AM
 Cederstrand wrote:

***Berkshire***Do you know if something under $100.- is a reasonable price?

Trainworld is selling new for $99.99, so yeah, if you can get it for that price, go for it!

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Posted by pcarrell on Monday, April 21, 2008 8:29 AM
Whew!  Thanks J.R., you saved me!  I almost had to feed this crowd again!
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Posted by grayfox1119 on Monday, April 21, 2008 9:16 AM

Hey PC, didn't you feel that quake a couple of hours ago?? A 4.5 just hit your area again, the 15th aftershock, and a pretty good size one. The website that shows Earthquakes around the planet just indictated the quake.

Mike, Garry, Lee, Jerry get off the floor, that was a quake not your woves kicking you out of bed ..LOL

Here is the web site thjat you can check to monitor earthquakes, everything your ever wanted to know and then some.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsus/Quakes/us2008rcar.php#summary

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Posted by SilverSpike on Monday, April 21, 2008 9:36 AM

Howdy pardners!

The TGX boxcar from 2Guyz and Sum Trains arrived in the Piedmont Division classification yard arrival tracks this weekend, here is photo of its arrival

J.R. the streets and Merchants Row kit bashing looks great!

Dick I look forward to seeing the bio mass pic!
 

Paul got a late freeze too? We can get them here until the third week of April, learned that the hard way last year, and lost a whole bunch a Marigold in early April '07. Sounds like knee and back breaking work with that switch! Reminds me of putting down tile flooring... Whistling [:-^]

Terry thanks for the tip on the paint sticks, road striping looks great!

Rob glad to hear the poison ivy is getting better! And thanks for the eggs, nothing compares to farm fresh!

Lee the drop leaf duck under is really shaping up there! And three tracks crossing it too, wow! I see your using the suitcase connectors too; makes for quick like wiring don't it!

Garry got some nice additions to the WPF thread I see, I see!
 

Liljoe it was nice to hear the Pope speak in America, we have only had 3 Popes to visit us in our short history. I like what he said about forgiveness, a weight was lifted from my chest after listening to that segment.

Jim those gluing jigs work great huh! Even with the fuzzy photo, I can make it out still.

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Posted by Cox 47 on Monday, April 21, 2008 9:59 AM

Good Morning all...Its sunny and low 50's here this AM....I'll have Toast and coffee please..Thank you..I guess we had another over 4.0 shake about 1:30 this morning but I slept thru this one....

Garry...I like your weathering on the 2 Reefers in your photo..Did you weather them from photos?...We will all be waiting on another car load of those great Ky hams?

Jr......Thanks for the photos...Great idea to put the turrant in the middle of the block...Did you do all that with just one merchants Row?

Jim....Looks like your building is coming along nicely.....

This is the Roco caboose  finished up....Its a old Roco and I put it on a M/T frame I had in my goodie box...Tracks real well...

Well you all have a good one...Jerry

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Posted by pcarrell on Monday, April 21, 2008 10:40 AM
 grayfox1119 wrote:

Hey PC, didn't you feel that quake a couple of hours ago?? A 4.5 just hit your area again, the 15th aftershock, and a pretty good size one. The website that shows Earthquakes around the planet just indictated the quake.

Heard about it......didn't feel it.  Slept right through it I guess.

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Posted by Cederstrand on Monday, April 21, 2008 11:17 AM

in a UNDECORATED mug, please & thanks.

Dipped into my train funds and ordered an Undecorated (N) Berkshire today. Big Smile [:D] That means my vintage Berk is definately heading to the-bay this Thursday. Since I'll still have the old loco when the new one arrives, it will be interesting to compare them.

I need a name for my local freelance RR. So, how does Salacoa Valley Railroad sound to you folks? (we live in the Salacoa valley) I think that would sound better than Cederstrand Railroad. Also, how many miles of track would a steam era "shortline" own or use? Or is there a better term for this? Thanks for any info/suggestions.

Wife is off today. Well deserved I might add.

Have a good day all! Cowboy [C):-)] Rob

 

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Posted by pcarrell on Monday, April 21, 2008 12:28 PM
 Cederstrand wrote:

Dipped into my train funds and ordered an Undecorated (N) Berkshire today. Big Smile [:D] That means my vintage Berk is definately heading to the-bay this Thursday. Since I'll still have the old loco when the new one arrives, it will be interesting to compare them.

Now that ought to be interesting!

I need a name for my local freelance RR. So, how does Salacoa Valley Railroad sound to you folks? (we live in the Salacoa valley) I think that would sound better than Cederstrand Railroad.

Cederstrand Valley RR?  Salacoa Valley RR, either way........

Also, how many miles of track would a steam era "shortline" own or use? Or is there a better term for this? Thanks for any info/suggestions.

They are the same as today, except for the steam of course.  My own prototype that I loosly follow had 33 miles of track, but I've seen shortlines with only a few miles on up to a hundred or two.  You really have quite a lot of leeway.  If I was you, I'd find a prototype shortline close to your timeframe (maybe from somewhere within a couple hundred miles of you with some ops that you're interested in) that you can find a decent amount of info on that you can use as a loose model.  Just something to use as a guideline, ya know?

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Posted by Cederstrand on Monday, April 21, 2008 12:51 PM

Sound advice, Philip.

Has anyone ordered from TopHobbyTrains before and were you satisfied with them? Found something on their site I would like to have and they also accept paypal (where I keep my train funds Pirate [oX)]) -Rob

 

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Posted by JimRCGMO on Monday, April 21, 2008 3:13 PM

Afternoon, Diners - Zoe, I'll have my usual RBF, please.

 

Thanks!

 Cederstrand wrote:

I need a name for my local freelance RR. So, how does Salacoa Valley Railroad sound to you folks? (we live in the Salacoa valley) I think that would sound better than Cederstrand Railroad. Also, how many miles of track would a steam era "shortline" own or use? Or is there a better term for this? Thanks for any info/suggestions.

Rob, guess you could modify/confuse things further and call it the Cedar Valley RR (?). Yeah, I know, it'd be an inside joke that it's misspelled. Wink [;)]

 Cederstrand wrote:

Wife is off today. Well deserved I might add.

Amen! Pamper her a bit today, if at all possible. Hope you love that new Berkie when it gets in! Oh, on that safe distance from the edge of the layout? - Depends on how tall your (clear) fascia extends above the track. (in other words, you can't have it too far from the edge, or too tall...) Whistling [:-^]

Thanks for the comments on the pics, everyone. I think I may try to get a new camera once my Economic Stimulus check arrives. Smile [:)] I'm beginning to get tired of the cell phone camera's qualitySigh [sigh] and am ready to get a decent camera again.

JR, I'll second the comments about your Merchants' Row kitbash. Big Smile [:D] Excellent job! Don't think I would have tackled that myself, and it sure wouldn't have looked that good if I did!

Ryan, nice boxcar there - adds some color to the yard. Thumbs Up [tup] I find myself trying to figure other RR lines' boxcars that would fit my time period and be something other than boxcar red (like New Haven, or a green NYC, etc.).

Jeff, I think that loco will make a fine park decoration. Better than a pink flamingo herd... Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] When's your next firerighting training - next year, or do you do every six months for some things?

We're having gorgeous Cool [8D] weather here in Cape G. today - sunny and high of 77 F predicted for this afternoon (uh, before the rain comes in after midnight tonight, that is).

After looking at my other Roberts Printing kit (and a few other structure kits, I've decided I will need to use 'imminent domain' and find some more MRR territory to add (like in a 2-bedroom apartment, plus using some of the living room, maybe). More land! More land! (spoken in a Tim-Allen-type grunt...)

Forgot to mention yesterday, but Sat., I bought some wood skewers for some AggroJones/Joe Fugate-style conifer trees. I like those Cedar Creek ones Joe mentions on his website, but not at those prices..Shock [:O] I'll work on my own, thanks. Smile [:)] 

I'd best get back to it - otherwise Dick's Soc. Security check might be late arriving. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] And Ed, where are ye, laddie? Check in, please!

 

Blessings,

Jim in Cool [8D] Cape Girardeau

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Posted by SilverSpike on Monday, April 21, 2008 3:17 PM
 JimRCGMO wrote:

Ryan, nice boxcar there - adds some color to the yard. Thumbs Up [tup] I find myself trying to figure other RR lines' boxcars that would fit my time period and be something other than boxcar red (like New Haven, or a green NYC, etc.).

Glad you like it! It is on loan from 2G'z and will continue to travel after a week or two stay in the PD!

 

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Posted by Cederstrand on Monday, April 21, 2008 3:18 PM
Tried ordering twice on the TopHobbyTrains site and met with much frustration. The second time it showed Money Order, which I never clicked on or accepted and I will not do. I "might" give them a third try tomorrow, IF my "account" shows entirely clear of any order. So far, a dreadful experience. Mischief [:-,] Gurrrrr! Rob
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Posted by LSWrr on Monday, April 21, 2008 3:42 PM

Jim, those connectors were from Harbor Freight Tools, $4 for 50 connectors.  Yes those connectors make wiring the layout A SNAP!   I also picked up a digital multi-meter for $2.99 (it also has the test socket for resistors and about 10 other uses I'll never get to).  My RS multi-meter was good, but working on track voltages it was hard to read the needle.  Now with digital the trouble shooting is a breeze.

I really don't have "a lot" of real estate on the layout, I'm running almost all "modern steam" with large curves and large turnouts.  #1 and #2 mains are running 38.5" and 41" curves.  Minimum curve will be 36".

Spent most of the day today chasing down a spill at the steel plant, so I got to hang out at the locomotive shops for about 4 hours.  The amount and variety of "scrap" laying around gave me some good ideas to make my round house area look "trashy".

I'll be back late to finish reading the days posts, I wore out my soldering tip and need to get a replacement before they close.

Lee

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Posted by Cederstrand on Monday, April 21, 2008 5:00 PM

in a Eufaula mug, please & thanks.

***Lee, "wide curves & large turnouts"...sounds like a lot more real estate than on my door layout.

UPDATE: I must say, the speed at which TopHobbyTrains responded to my e-mail requests was excellent. Third time was a charm, so I now have a Atlas Two-Truck Shay "on the way". Big Smile [:D] That should about do it until I prop back up my train funds account with some more vintage sales.

I've been working on a little project for the FIL today. And tomorrow the wife is taking him golfing, or at least riding around in a golf cart to get some fresh air. Think I'll pass on that particular excursion.

Cowboy [C):-)] Rob

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Monday, April 21, 2008 5:19 PM
 JimRCGMO wrote:

Jeff, I think that loco will make a fine park decoration. Better than a pink flamingo herd... Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] When's your next firerighting training - next year, or do you do every six months for some things?

Mine will be when the chief feels I need it, which isn't too often.

 

There was a five alarm called in today. Some blooming idiot decided to torch a big pile of leaves then take off on a beer run. He came close to burning six homes. Talk about stupid! 

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Posted by GMTRacing on Monday, April 21, 2008 9:18 PM

Page two? Dude! Worked a bit on the Howlands' store tonight. Also still trying to stabilize the kitbash enough to pick it up off the layout to finish.

Jerry - Merchants row III is three stores joined together so there was lots to work with. J.R.

Some more progress pics.

Howland Department Store with details started and the sign in place

A fairly dirty firehouse - no details yet but the windows came out ok I think

first attempt at street lines and featuring the new bus I just had to have......

 

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Posted by JimRCGMO on Monday, April 21, 2008 10:02 PM

Evening, Chloe - how about a cup of decaf in a Rio Grande mug,

 

and a hot fudge brownie sundae, please.

 

Thank you!

Rob, would that Eufaula be in Alabama or Oklahoma? Never heard of it till you mentioned it (and did a little checking). Good to hear you got things straightened out and were able to get your locomotive.

We started laying some more track tonight at the MRR club meeting. I got there a little early and pulled the brads/nails from last week's roadbed-laying. Our layout architect (Kevin) also got the spot for the turntable prepped (drilled the holes, notch for the reader, cut the hole and temporarily put the turntable in it). The club has the 130' Walthers turntable, and will be getting the roundhouse (and a 3-stall addition) to go with it. Our chief ballaster and another club member were saying they thought I should get to do the ballasting (hopefully, not the entire layout...!).Oops [oops]

Jeff, sounds good if you don't have to do the training thing very often.

Lee, I tried looking on the Harbor Freight site, but couldn't find the connectors (or not in that price range or under 'connectors', anyway). Did you get them recently, or a while back?

Well, I'll get back to my sundae now.

 

Blessings,

Jim in Cape Girardeau 

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Posted by Cederstrand on Monday, April 21, 2008 11:11 PM

***GMT, Nice work! I can see why you like that bus. There is just something about it. It's a keeper.

***Jim, Eufaula from Washington State. A tribute to my sister who still lives out there and loves trains like the rest of us. Who cares if this loco is going to live on a fictitious Deep South layout...I don't! I feel bad for my sister, as neither of her two boys ever showed an interest in model trains. They prefered video games. So, her HO collection remains packed away still. My wife & I hope when her kids are grown and gone, that she will move out here to Georgia. Her husband can come too, if she wants. Whistling [:-^]Laugh [(-D]

Good Night All.

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Posted by Paul W. Beverung on Monday, April 21, 2008 11:58 PM

Evening Gang: I got the two gondolas that John has and changed the trucks on one and put on new couplers. That took a couple of hours. Turning a 7.5 inch gauge car over takes two persons and a bunch of grunting. The other car needed a new coupler on one end so it can act as a transition car between the ones with the new type couplers and the old ones. The live steam hobby needs some standards for couplers. The ones I'm putting on now are from Cannon Ball and will work well with almost everything else except the old Back Yard couplers that I had been using. Tomorrow I have to drop the trucks from the diesel and add a washer between the truck and body bolster. The locomotive body has now rocking action at all now and I think that is the reason it's derailing.

I haven't heard from Ed yet. He is supposed to be here some time Friday, I think.

Jerry that's a good looking caboose. I need to get a couple for the 7.5 inch gauge. Well one at least.

Rob so you got a Berk and a shay. Nice going.

I'm still worn out and sore from that switch. Tomorrow after I take care of the locomotive I'm going to chill and do some running. I have to test run the loco don't I?

Good Night All 

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Posted by wetidlerjr on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 5:29 AM

Good Morning from Tipton IN ! Big Smile [:D]

Clown [:o)]

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Posted by LSWrr on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 5:34 AM

Good morning all,

GMT, I like the green on that department store.

Jim, Storehouse 50 PC QUICK SPLICES item #96230

 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?function=Search

The blades are tapered, so all 50 will work with 22 gauge wire

Jim, how are you controlling the clubs turn table?  I wanted the Berkshire Jct motor control kit, but they stopped selling it and now I'm looking to wire my own, but need a little guidance.  I'm not a big fan of the W's little motor kit.

Jeff, that's a nice steam locomotive.

I did a little work on the east end of the yard last night connecting it to the Local main.  I also had to run a crossover to connect the local with the industrial complex (AKA the Time Saver).

Ok time to make more money for the layout, see you all tonight,

Lee

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 6:18 AM
Good morning.

It's cloudy and 70 degrees. Expecting a high of 82 and a chance of thunderstorms later today.

Today's Weather for:      
Sundown, LA  71446-6114      4/22/2008


Wind Chill:  70°F
Humidity:  94%
Dew Point:  68°F

So Far Today
High:  72°F
Low:  70°F
Rain:  0.00"
Rain Rate:  0.00"/h
Gust:  6mph S

Today  High: 85    Partly sunny with a 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Highs in the mid 80s. Light and variable winds.    
 
Tonight  Low: 65    Mostly cloudy in the evening then clearing. Lows in the mid 60s. Light and variable winds.


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Posted by GMTRacing on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 6:30 AM

Good Morning All,

   Overcast and damp when I went to the shop this morning but it's supposed to be in the high sixties and sunny today once the haze burns off. Have a run to the chassis dyno today for a misbehaving car if we get our F-350 back from the dealer (puter glitches and a bad fuel pump) in time.

    Someone tried to win the Darwin award a couple of blocks away last evening stepping in front of a Metro North commuter train. she got trapped under the locomotive but survived to go to hospital. The train had tripped the warnings and gates so it might be an attempted suicide according to the papers. Of course watching some of the other apprentice morons dart around the gates or drive past the barriers it could be plain old stupidity as well.

Rob - good luck with your loco quest. We've gotten some new Proto N at the museum that work well and an Atlas H-16-44 that won't pull teeth. I had also picked up a Bachman 4 -6 -2 that worked well until the tender trucks fell to bits. To there credit Bachman replaced the trucks free and promptly, but it may be a design flaw.

Well - got to get back to it. See y'all later.   J.R.

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Posted by rtraincollector on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 7:14 AM

Morning all same ole same ole going on here. Nothin new to report yet.

Have a good day will check back later

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Posted by SilverSpike on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 7:23 AM

Mornin' podnas...

GMT continues with some nice work with your structures! You gonna have a huge city skyline soon... Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Not much happening here today.

Jeff not surprising at all with the burn issue, as burn permits are required here from the local Wake County FD before any brush or leaf burning is done. A heafty fine too if you don't get one or leave the burn unattended.

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Posted by grayfox1119 on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 8:43 AM
Good morning........61F here already and climbing 0.1F every 15 seconds, looks like 80F today. And the entire northeast can thank our brothers up in Nova Scotia. They have set up a huge Blocking High Pressure system that is NOT moving, and is causing all the storms to go south of us or stall out and dissipate. Of course this is bad news for people west of us all the way to west coast.

We have an outside burning ban in effect, and that puts an end to outside permitted burning for the 2008 season because we have no rain in sight, it is the 22nd of April, and outside burning ends April 30th. We had over 1000 brush fires out of control on Monday for a while. Luckily, we don't have huge pine forests that really fuel huge forest fires like out west.

JIM: I haven't received my SS check yet this month, are you taking another break at work ??? LOL

Later, guys, I need to get outside and enjoy this tremendous weather.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 8:47 AM
Here a burn ban lasts only until one of the 'good ol' boys' on the police jury wants to burn off the pine needle piles in his yard.

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Posted by Cox 47 on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:28 AM

Good morning...It's sunny and in the low to mid 50's here this morning..I'll have ham and eggs with biscuits and coffee please....Thank You....Ran trains yesterday for a while

Rob...Like the name Salacoa Valley Railroad....SVR...Service with a smile...??

JR....Ditto on that department store looks good...I have never tried to paint any buildings like that but I like it gonna have to try it...

Folks around here are starting to find some mushroons....They had a mushroon festival over west of us over the week-end and they sold for 70.00 a pound!...You all have a good one...Jerry

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Posted by SilverSpike on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:45 AM

Speaking of burns...found this on yardlimits.com site

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