Driline-The black looks too monotone. Needs some fading and variation. Try swapping the rust in the airbrush for some light grey or white and repeating what you did with the rust color. Could also use some rust and grime streaks dripping down.
Edit-Try a little redder rust color like in Lee's pic. Iron usually doesn't produce a tan colored rust.
Don't spray on the rust. It looks more like camouflage than rust. Try multiple layers of dark brown washes, then dry brush on some lighter rust highlights... The light rust would also likely be more even over the structure, with heavier applications at the bottom and in cravasses where water would likely lay.
Behold.
Lee
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Modeling the Rio Grande Southern First District circa 1938-1946 in HOn3.
This bridge needs something.....I'm not sure what. I've sprayed rust on the gussets, but haven't used chalk yet.
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Nice use of color.
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loathar wrote: wm3798 wrote: OzarkBelt wrote: Here's a scene I'm rather fond of:Enjoy I like the color scheme and weathering on the station, although I hope the painters didn't get paid for those dormers... The one on the left looks great, but you need to finish touching up the other two. Also, the green car looks "plastic" compared to the other two vehicles...And Darth Vader usually raises his right hand before he kills you with a thought, not the leftLee Same exact things I was gonna say. Maybe a bit more white paint around the door jams. They look a little too bare.(is that Darth or a cigar store Indian?)
wm3798 wrote: OzarkBelt wrote: Here's a scene I'm rather fond of:Enjoy I like the color scheme and weathering on the station, although I hope the painters didn't get paid for those dormers... The one on the left looks great, but you need to finish touching up the other two. Also, the green car looks "plastic" compared to the other two vehicles...And Darth Vader usually raises his right hand before he kills you with a thought, not the leftLee
OzarkBelt wrote: Here's a scene I'm rather fond of:Enjoy
Here's a scene I'm rather fond of:
Enjoy
I like the color scheme and weathering on the station, although I hope the painters didn't get paid for those dormers... The one on the left looks great, but you need to finish touching up the other two. Also, the green car looks "plastic" compared to the other two vehicles...
And Darth Vader usually raises his right hand before he kills you with a thought, not the left
Same exact things I was gonna say. Maybe a bit more white paint around the door jams. They look a little too bare.(is that Darth or a cigar store Indian?)
Thanks for your critique. I better get working. You have to admit, Darth Vader in HO is pretty cool.
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CSX_road_slug,
Nicely done on the weathering. The rusting along the bottom of the car came out good. One last suggestion, give a nice thin coat of dullcoat to takedown the glare some and give a good flat finish like the prototype pic.
jktrains
CSX_road_slug -Yeah. That's better. I'd still fade the logos A LOT more. I just saw a whole string of hoppers like that in a yard and you could hardly read the lettering. The reporting marks looked like they had been redone, but the logos were almost non existent. This is a crappy shot, but it's all I could get. They did all have logos on them. That's how faded they were. You can barely see the reporting marks in this pic.
Edit-Sorry! I just saw your prototype pic.I didn't realize that's what you were going for. Nailed it!
Ozark - here's a tip on improving that green car: First paint all the wheels in a flat version of grimy black or dark gray, then paint flat aluminum 'hubcaps' in the centers. Perhaps some silver where the headlights should be...
loathar wrote:... Need to make the rust a bit more random. The rust streaks coming off the roof supports all look the same. The black lettering needs to be more faded looking maybe with some black/grey streaks washing down below the letters. ...
Loathar,
I did (or at least tried) 2 of your 3 suggestions: Making the roof rust streaks seem more random, and fading the black lettering and logo. Haven't quite got around to doing the white streaks yet. But here is what she looks like now:
Prototype: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/pictures%5C28762%5CCSXT_201582.JPG
-Ken in Maryland (B&O modeler, former CSX modeler)
Loathar-> 1st, thank you and the others for posting your work. I am learning much from reading people's techniques and suggestions. Your roof looked pretty good to me, but I don't think I have ever seen an actual roof like that, so I am not sure what it should look like. I know they exist. I am going to start looking for prototype roof photos. What color(s) did you use? Others have covered the paper width issues and the need for vent pipes and a roof hatch, so the only other thing I could add would be soot on the chimmney. Keep up the good work.
Maurice
Not meaing to pile on, but a few things stand out.
I need some trees, yet:
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jktrains wrote: Mike,In the second picture the foliage looks a little close to the track and might cause a clearance problem. Also (or all so) turn off the flash. It causes that washed out effect in the pic. Keep practicing, its the only way to get better. As someone suggested, take notes, bracket your exposures and experiment some. The nice thing about digital photography is that you can see the results right away and know what works or doesn't work and the is no wasted film. If the picture lloks bad, delete it and learn from it.jktrains
Mike,
In the second picture the foliage looks a little close to the track and might cause a clearance problem. Also (or all so) turn off the flash. It causes that washed out effect in the pic. Keep practicing, its the only way to get better. As someone suggested, take notes, bracket your exposures and experiment some. The nice thing about digital photography is that you can see the results right away and know what works or doesn't work and the is no wasted film. If the picture lloks bad, delete it and learn from it.
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OzarkBelt wrote:Here's a scene I'm rather fond of:Enjoy
bogp40 wrote: loathar wrote: Thanks for the tips all! I see I screwed up on the width. I tried to do 6' rolls but now see they only sell 3'. I put a couple more coats of grey on and it took some of the texture out and toned down the tar lines. Looks better now. I've got details to add and weathering to do, I just wanted to get the base color right first.Blue Flamer-Wrong direction? Really? I just figured it would go with the down slope of the roof like shingles do. Learn something new every day.Loather, you got the roofing direction right, just have the sections too wide.Blue flamer, at first I thought the roofing was the wrong direction until I noticed the pitch to the rear. You can see the slight pitch on the mansard in the pic.
loathar wrote: Thanks for the tips all! I see I screwed up on the width. I tried to do 6' rolls but now see they only sell 3'. I put a couple more coats of grey on and it took some of the texture out and toned down the tar lines. Looks better now. I've got details to add and weathering to do, I just wanted to get the base color right first.Blue Flamer-Wrong direction? Really? I just figured it would go with the down slope of the roof like shingles do. Learn something new every day.
Thanks for the tips all! I see I screwed up on the width. I tried to do 6' rolls but now see they only sell 3'. I put a couple more coats of grey on and it took some of the texture out and toned down the tar lines. Looks better now. I've got details to add and weathering to do, I just wanted to get the base color right first.
Blue Flamer-Wrong direction? Really? I just figured it would go with the down slope of the roof like shingles do. Learn something new every day.
Loather, you got the roofing direction right, just have the sections too wide.
Blue flamer, at first I thought the roofing was the wrong direction until I noticed the pitch to the rear. You can see the slight pitch on the mansard in the pic.
loathar & bogp40
If this is the case, please accept my apologies. These old eyes use Tri-Focals to see with and to be honest, even after you told me this, I still can't see the pitch on the roof.
It's a good thing that I only use these glasses to drive and to see with and not for anything real important.
Blue Flamer.
loathar wrote: Blue Flamer-Wrong direction? Really? I just figured it would go with the down slope of the roof like shingles do. Learn something new every day.
loathar.
You are correct in that assumption. If you visualize a shingled roof, rainwater runs down the roof from the higher elevation and drops off the overlapping shingle to the lower shingle. That was basically the way that they did the flat roof. They started at the eaves (the lowest part of the roof) along the side of the house and worked up to the 4" to 5" high peak down the centre of the two houses and overlapped the previous row of tarpaper as they went. The only difference between this roof and the shingled roof is that due to it being basically flat, they slopped hot tar all over it and covered it with the Pea Gravel for protection.
I hope that I have helped a little and not added to your confusion. I may have been born in England, but that was 68 years ago and my grasp of the language sometimes eludes me in my senior years. But, I still keep trying.
All the best.
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just finished this today. camera is old and i need practice. But this is my first attempt at a scene so i thought i would post. It is on a 12 in wide shelf by 3-4 in deep if that.
loathar wrote:I need help and I figure this is the thread to get an honest opinion. I'm trying to do roll roofing and my results are leaving me kind of flat. I used masking tape painted with some asphalt color and some darker paint for tar lines on the seams. I like the texture, but I'm not overly happy with the total look. Any suggestions? (hopefully this fits in with this thread)
I need help and I figure this is the thread to get an honest opinion. I'm trying to do roll roofing and my results are leaving me kind of flat. I used masking tape painted with some asphalt color and some darker paint for tar lines on the seams. I like the texture, but I'm not overly happy with the total look. Any suggestions? (hopefully this fits in with this thread)
That is a good looking building. The only problem that I see is that the tarpaper strips are to wide and are running in the wrong direction.
Our previous home was a 100+ year old semi-detached house in downtown Toronto, Canada. It had a peaked asphalt shingled roof over the front 25% of the house running parrallel to the street and the rear 75% of the roof was flat and it was about 4" to 5" higher down the centre of the flat part so that water ran to both edges of the roof to the eaves.
When we had to have the roof re-done after about 40+ years from the previous roofing, they stripped off the old roofing to the wood and used 40" wide roll roofing that was overlapped every 10" to give 4 layers of paper and they ran it the length of the roof, not width-wise. When they came to the end of a roll, they just overlapped and sealed the end and carried on with a fresh roll. After all four layers were on, they then mopped on HOT TAR that was quite thick and then spread what was called PEA GRAVEL over it about 1/2" thick and it mostly settled down into the tar but left a good layer of loose gravel on top. As the name suggests, the gravel was about 1/4" in diameter like a large pea and for the most part, quite smooth.
We also had an old wooden garage off the back laneway that had a tar-papered slopeing roof from front to back. It was only overlapped twice but was a thicker covering and the edges were sealed with tar on each layer. There was no tar OR gravel put on the roof and the paper was rolled on lengthwise also and joined at the end of the rolls and sealed.
I saw a number of similar roofs in the neighbourhood done the same way.
I hope that this information is of use to anyone contemplating doing a flat roof.
No offence is intended in any way and none will be taken with anyones differing opinions or ideas. This is just my
from my own experience.
Good modelling to all.
saronaterry wrote: Hi guys! First time, be gentle! More for the models as I'm still learning the digital camera stuff! Have at it!I need to do a little more detailing, and the backdrop needs work!
Hi guys! First time, be gentle! More for the models as I'm still learning the digital camera stuff! Have at it!
I need to do a little more detailing, and the backdrop needs work!
I really like that scene. The road weathering is top notch. Post away!