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Posted by LSWrr on Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:12 PM

Evening all, well I finished the ice house (Walther's #933-3049).  There are a few things I could have done a little better, but it looks ok.

I stopped at the LHS and picked up the Walther's catalog, 2 gondolas, and a Walther's modular 3-in-1 building set (marked down $10).  After opening the 3-in-1 I need to go back and pick up the loading dock and extended foundation for this building.  My intentions are to build a Dairy plant, not much of a dairy without loading docks.

21 degrees with 23 Kts west winds, snow the next 3 days.  Wahoo!

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Posted by TrainFreak409 on Friday, November 30, 2007 12:43 AM
 rtraincollector wrote:

speaking of NS Trainfreak409 saw a stange thing to me anyway behind a NS train (one engine) about 25 or so cars instead of the red beakin all it had was a red flag attached to the coupler. Is this normal on trains that may have been split to drop some cars off or pick some cars up and position them at a certain point in the train?  I'm guessing this is what may have been going on here. not sure though.

An End-of-Train Device (EOTD) is not always used. It depends on a few things. If the train is working within yard limits, then an EOTD is not required, nor is it required when the train will never exceed 30 mph. Some territories require EOTDs, and others don't. We need one when we run on the Northeast Corridor, but not when we go to Sparrows Point or the Dundulk Marine Terminal since they are in yard limits, but still a good few miles. The rear needs to be marked in some way, by light or flag when not using an EOTD.

When doubling a grade, the first cut will usually be marked by a flag.

I can't quote the exact rules for an EOTD, I leave my NORAC rule book at work, but I'll check more into that for you.

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Posted by rtraincollector on Friday, November 30, 2007 4:17 AM
I asked a csx train guy on another site and said its common pratice for under 10 miles an hour your moving a load to drop or pick up. At this point I don't think its called a yard although we do have a couple side tracks to businesses in the area

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Posted by rtraincollector on Friday, November 30, 2007 4:18 AM
Almost forgot heres a link to send a message/card to our troops over seas. http://www.letssaythanks.com/

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Posted by wetidlerjr on Friday, November 30, 2007 5:10 AM

Good Morning from Tipton IN ! Big Smile [:D]

Clown [:o)]

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Friday, November 30, 2007 7:16 AM
Good morning.

Today's Weather for:      
Sundown, LA  71446-6114      11/30/2007


Wind Chill:  46°F
Humidity:  87%
Dew Point:  45°F

So Far Today
High:  50°F
Low:  46°F
Rain:  0.00"
Rain Rate:  0.00"/h
Gust:  5mph ESE

Today    High: 72    Mostly sunny. Patchy fog in the morning. Highs in the lower 70s. Light and variable winds.    
 
Tonight    Low: 55    Increasing clouds. Lows in the mid 50s. Light and variable winds becoming east around 10 mph after midnight.


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Posted by JimRCGMO on Friday, November 30, 2007 9:05 AM

Good Morning, Zoe - how about a cup of egg nog, please? Thanks! 

I see Dick's sleeping in from the effects of his pneunemonia shot, eh? Wink [;)] I was debating about getting that, but I'm a bit younger than Dick, even if it is my 'natal day' today.Smile [:)]Whistling [:-^]Whistling [:-^]

 rtraincollector wrote:
Almost forgot heres a link to send a message/card to our troops over seas. http://www.letssaythanks.com/

Thanks for that link, RT - I'd lost track of it since the last time it was posted, and wanted to send it again as soon as I saw the link. Appreciate it. Best wishes and Angel [angel] Angel [angel]Angel [angel] for the possible plumbing job! 

Good to see Scott's made it in again, and T 

Side note for those who've been contributing helpful comments on my layout designs - the odd thing is, the last design (with the yard) I posted was an earlier one I'd come up with for using my bedroom in the current apartment. Of course, my bed would be located under the yard area, so I could forget about sitting up in bed... Shock [:O]Wink [;)] But hey, for the sake of MRR'ing, right?Whistling [:-^]Whistling [:-^] 

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Posted by last mountain & eastern hogger on Friday, November 30, 2007 9:58 AM

Whistling [:-^]Good Morning Gang,

Chloe, I'll have a fergiemiestre breakfast special ( Toasted sardine sandwich )and Cranberry juice.

The weather update for the great White North is as follows

Presently  -18 C,  Clear,  Wind 26 km/h.   RH. 59%

Wind Chill -30 C.

Ceiling unlimited.

Tonight:      -24 C. and cloudy.

Sat. Morn.    -23 C.   with sunny breaks.   RH.  76%

No snow until Monday.

Not out of the -20s until Tuesday when it will be -7C.

No work on layout last evening as I had to work, but I will be at it over the week-end after getting some Christmas things started.  

Taking Mother out for supper tonight as it is our 34th Anniversary.  WOW. does time fly.

I made some calls this morning from work again, and found a supplier for "Structolite" so I will pick up a bag of it after work. Cannot find Gysolite or Vermiculite around here though.  But it sounds like this will work fine for terra forming.

Tunnel liners and portals being produced as fast as I can get at them and turning out very good.  Would be happier if they wer installed already, but you shouldn't wish your life away. Just enjoy the journey.

Have a great day guys and gals, and keep your socks dry.

Johnboy out...............

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The "Wobbly" is peeking out of that tunnel.

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Friday, November 30, 2007 9:58 AM

Hello everyone.

The tree's up. Decorations are up. Lionel gets set up under tree today.

I hope each of you will be enjoying the Christmas season.

Happy Model Railroading!

GARRY

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Posted by pcarrell on Friday, November 30, 2007 10:29 AM

 Flashwave wrote:
Where's the caboose at? 

It's in Noblesville, IN. over by the old Firestone plant.  It's a couple of blocks west of there actually.

And what;'s with the earth color scheme? I've seen it on Dash 9s as well.

Those colors were the same colors they used on the new "green" demo loco a short while ago.

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Posted by secondhandmodeler on Friday, November 30, 2007 11:03 AM
Good morning folks.  I woke up to white stuff all over the place.  Last night I fired up the snow blower to make sure it works.  Yep, started right up.  I don't want to be caught holding the shovel if you know what I mean.  I haven't done much modeling lately.  I've spent too much time decorating my house and finishing other honey do's.  I think part of me is waiting until I get my new building kits for Christmas.  I know how much room they take up, but I need to see them in person to get my spacing right.  I hope everyone has a good day.  Thanks to those who humored me in my latest efforts in G scale!Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Cox 47 on Friday, November 30, 2007 11:35 AM
Good Day all......Sunny and cold here today.....I'll have a ham salad sandwitch,chips and a Diet Coke please....Thank You.....Waiting on Cable company to show up my Phone has been off and one for over a week and with our health problems we need it to work all the time...Caregiver and I switched back to my old computer this morning new one wouldn't let me post here or anyplace else...seemed like i could get to site but couldn't do anything after I got there...May set work table up latter so I can start work rebuilding some of the "junkers" I got off Ebay......

Dick...Sounds like a neat new engine..I'll bet the 0-8-0 will look and sound great switching in the yard...

RT....Good luck with job interview....

Scott....Good to see you back in the dinner...Thanks for your info on EOT.....

Lee...any photos of Ice House....I have one in N scale I picked up in a box I got from Ebay last year..I have put 1 of the icing platforms together and was wondering what it will look like..I know I don't have room for it...

You all have a good day....Jerry
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Posted by SilverSpike on Friday, November 30, 2007 11:38 AM

Afternoon folks!

Dinner [dinner] What's on the lunch special for today?

Chef [C=:-)] How about a Hot Roast Beef Po-Boy, or sub, or grinder, for all you guys who have never been to N'Awlins! And a side of fries too!

Thanks Chloe! Thumbs Up [tup]

Flip and Dick, I know what a pocket door is! Confused [%-)]  Two houses in Uptown New Orleans that I rented years ago had them, and they were very popular in older homes like those built around the turn of the century and beyond. I was offering Jim the idea of a bi-fold door as another option as it has little impact on messing up the wall, just change out a door from unscrewing one set of hinges and screwing in the other.

Sue - Sounds like a fun party event. Making wreaths with Noble Fir, we used Fraser Fir from North Carolina. I used to work for a tree service company while in high school and starting with Thanksgiving week we would sell Christmas trees and make wreaths, garland, etc... and that is fun stuff. We would even wire tie-in fresh kumquats, cranberries, and holly on the wreaths and they smelled great for weeks!

Sign - Welcome [#welcome] Welcome back Scott! And thanks for the detailed answers on the EOTD, see, picking your brain isn't that bad after all huh!

Jerry said:

Ryan....Looks like more good progress on layout...can't wait to see round house area finished...

 

Jerry - You and me both! Seems like it is taking forever to finish, but it is fun when I get the time to do it!

Lee - The article that you mention is actually a MR Forum Clinic that Joe Fugate started awhile ago. Here is the link and I will email it too! The plaster mixture description starts on page 2 of the topic.

http://www.trains.com/trccs/forums/412388/ShowPost.aspx

Dave - That is an ambitious project you have going there, look forward to the progress reports. Thumbs Up [tup]

RT - Nice shelf set up with the trains, I like it a lot!

Congratulations Johnboy on 34 years!  Bow [bow]

Garry said:

Hello everyone.

The tree's up. Decorations are up. Lionel gets set up under tree today.

I hope each of you will be enjoying the Christmas season.

Happy Model Railroading!

 

Garry - You're making me jealous. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Our tree won't go up until next weekend after Monique and Ben get back into town.

Corey - Snow huh, the January 08 MR issue has an article about modeling snow, starts on page 52.

For some reason my quote thingy don't work anymore, oh well, you all have a good one!

Ryan

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Posted by ModelTrainLover on Friday, November 30, 2007 11:49 AM

THE COMP IS FIXED!!!!!!!!!!! IT RUNS LIKE NEW NOW!!!!!!!

I'LL HAVE A RBF, apple pie.. PC don't mees with my pie cause I'm the master of ka-chook. (brings out 12g. pup action shotgun.) with vinella ice cream.

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Posted by ModelTrainLover on Friday, November 30, 2007 12:18 PM
 TrainFreak409 wrote:
 rtraincollector wrote:

speaking of NS Trainfreak409 saw a stange thing to me anyway behind a NS train (one engine) about 25 or so cars instead of the red beakin all it had was a red flag attached to the coupler. Is this normal on trains that may have been split to drop some cars off or pick some cars up and position them at a certain point in the train?  I'm guessing this is what may have been going on here. not sure though.

An End-of-Train Device (EOTD) is not always used. It depends on a few things. If the train is working within yard limits, then an EOTD is not required, nor is it required when the train will never exceed 30 mph. Some territories require EOTDs, and others don't. We need one when we run on the Northeast Corridor, but not when we go to Sparrows Point or the Dundulk Marine Terminal since they are in yard limits, but still a good few miles. The rear needs to be marked in some way, by light or flag when not using an EOTD.

When doubling a grade, the first cut will usually be marked by a flag.

I can't quote the exact rules for an EOTD, I leave my NORAC rule book at work, but I'll check more into that for you.

Hey Scott I have a simple request.

Could you please show us what the time table (or something like that) looks like?

btw does it look something like this?

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Posted by TrainFreak409 on Friday, November 30, 2007 12:24 PM
 ModelTrainLover wrote:
Hey Scott I have a simple request.

Could you please show us what the time table (or something like that) looks like?

btw does it look something like this?

The Norfolk Southern Rule Book and Time Table is larger than that, but yeah, it's similar. I leave mine at work in my locker, so I don't have a picture. The Amtrak one more resembles that. I'll have to bring my rule book home one day so that I can snag a picture of all my gear.

It's thick...Includes NORAC rules, NS rules, Hazmat info, system timetable, district time table, and more...It's pretty big. And I had to go through all of it.

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Posted by ModelTrainLover on Friday, November 30, 2007 12:30 PM

my Maine Central one just goes over yard capassity, grade crossings, and the like but no hazmatt stuff or, Norac rules. it's thin too.

BTW have you been in the cab of one of the new NS locos?

and I have honors today!

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Posted by SilverSpike on Friday, November 30, 2007 12:31 PM

Here is an old Southern Railroad Timetable that I have:

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Posted by ModelTrainLover on Friday, November 30, 2007 12:33 PM
 SilverSpike wrote:

Here is an old Southern Railroad Timetable that I have:

"avoid falls' it says. I think most people want to avoid falls.

lol

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Posted by Cederstrand on Friday, November 30, 2007 1:05 PM

in a UNION PACIFIC mug, please & thank you!

Got our Internet back this afternoon, as it went down yesterday. All bad news lately, so nothing worth reporting on. Sigh [sigh]

Hope everyone is doing well. Rob 

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Posted by JimRCGMO on Friday, November 30, 2007 3:04 PM

Just a root beer float to go, Zoe, and a BUMP! Smile [:)] Thanks!

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Posted by grayfox1119 on Friday, November 30, 2007 3:12 PM

Good afternoon everyone......been Christmas shopping with the wife, just about completed the job she says, and I break out into song, "Joy to the World" and get a bag slapped at me...LOL

In the 30's here today, and another cold wave sweeps through, temps down to 12F tomorrow night and Sunday followed by a snow storm Sunday night.

JERRY: Not a bad icea on those Ebay grab bags, with your experience I am sure they will be running better than new soon, and what a price !!!! You can then turn them on EBay and have quite a little business going ,  Eh? As for the 0-8-0, I decided to run it on the wife's New England Christmas Village display. Setting that up tomorrow.

RYAN: Sorry about the pocket door, I should have realized that you knew what they were, with your experience with carpentry...Ashamed [*^_^*] Making wreaths sure brings back memories of when we used to walk in the woods, pick some Princess Pine, Laurel, red berries, pine cones and red pine boughs, then make our Christmas wreaths for the doors and over the mantels, ahhh, the good old days.

SCOTT: Good to hear from you, and happy to see you are doing fine on the job. That was very interesting to hear about the EOTD's , I never knew what they were all about except that they give a radio signal as to location of the end of the train, but I never knew when they use them or where.

JOHNBOY: Happy to see you have our front door up there in those north woods, keep us informed. How far north of the border to you live in Saskatchawan?

CAPE JIM: Is it your BD today ????????????

Later,

Dick If you do what you always did, you'll get what you always got!! Learn from the mistakes of others, trust me........you can't live long enough to make all the mistakes yourself, I tried !! Picture album at :http://www.railimages.com/gallery/dickjubinville Picture album at:http://community.webshots.com/user/dickj19 local weather www.weatherlink.com/user/grayfox1119
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Posted by bogp40 on Friday, November 30, 2007 4:10 PM

Hi all,

Haven't been really checking up on what everyones up to these days. Most of you must have thought I fell off planet or something. I appreiciate your concern. Just hangin' in there and doing OK. The kids are adjusting better than I am and my youngest absolutely loves it out at UMass, Amhearst.

Still haven't done much with trains so far. Some of the club members really want me to get back into the scenery and show up for more than a business meeting. The first Christmas without April is only weeks away, hope we can deal with it as well as Thanksgiving in New Jersey with her family. Myself and the kids as well as her family can look at her passing and give thanks to all the wonderful memories and 3 great children she left us with. I can't believe how much everyone misses her laugh- It would overtake a room or the entire floor of Sears where she was a manager. She could tell the gen. manager to sh** in his hat and then laugh to get her point accross to defend the employees and never a repercussion. Try that and see what happens....

Been keeping myself quite busy with getting lost in my work. Seems to help. I hope soon that I can get lost in the scenery at the club... it sure needs it. Thankfully, a few very good craftsman have pitched in and taken on some projects. One in particular (a real perfectionist, has jumped into the scenery and even his first attempts are unbelivable.

This is Bob doing some finishing touches to one of his first areas, a retired elec engineer of coarse... the lighting makes it appear too green.

Of coarse that's my B&O passenger running by- Sure, I'm out playing while others are working. Actually we just staged the shot.

Now I'm in the middle of installing an engine in my Dodge van, 3 Dodge/Chrysler techs have tried to diag the trouble. All indications are that everything is normal. Didn't think I was slipping after all my 30 years of working on these trucks. My initial, but didn't want to beleive it, was that I have a cracked cylinder head at the valve seats. This is the only thing that would case these problems in drivability. So now the weather has changed, has been 25-30 degrees and I can't tie up anyones shop for this type of project- so this is a driveway job. Fun, fun, fun... Have a real good warranteed motor but pulling apart a New England machine is just too much. I really did get spoiled from all the years working on those cars in California. So now I'm taking a break from the cold, comtemplating just how much the "gas wrench" is going to have to do.

Well back into the cold, stop by later.

 

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Posted by Flashwave on Friday, November 30, 2007 4:46 PM
 bogp40 wrote:

Hi all,

Haven't been really checking up on what everyones up to these days. Most of you must have thought I fell off planet or something. I appreiciate your concern. Just hangin' in there and doing OK. The kids are adjusting better than I am and my youngest absolutely loves it out at UMass, Amhearst.

Still haven't done much with trains so far. Some of the club members really want me to get back into the scenery and show up for more than a business meeting. The first Christmas without April is only weeks away, hope we can deal with it as well as Thanksgiving in New Jersey with her family. Myself and the kids as well as her family can look at her passing and give thanks to all the wonderful memories and 3 great children she left us with. I can't believe how much everyone misses her laugh- It would overtake a room or the entire floor of Sears where she was a manager. She could tell the gen. manager to sh** in his hat and then laugh to get her point accross to defend the employees and never a repercussion. Try that and see what happens....

Been keeping myself quite busy with getting lost in my work. Seems to help. I hope soon that I can get lost in the scenery at the club... it sure needs it. Thankfully, a few very good craftsman have pitched in and taken on some projects. One in particular (a real perfectionist, has jumped into the scenery and even his first attempts are unbelivable.

This is Bob doing some finishing touches to one of his first areas, a retired elec engineer of coarse... the lighting makes it appear too green.

Of coarse that's my B&O passenger running by- Sure, I'm out playing while others are working. Actually we just staged the shot.

Now I'm in the middle of installing an engine in my Dodge van, 3 Dodge/Chrysler techs have tried to diag the trouble. All indications are that everything is normal. Didn't think I was slipping after all my 30 years of working on these trucks. My initial, but didn't want to beleive it, was that I have a cracked cylinder head at the valve seats. This is the only thing that would case these problems in drivability. So now the weather has changed, has been 25-30 degrees and I can't tie up anyones shop for this type of project- so this is a driveway job. Fun, fun, fun... Have a real good warranteed motor but pulling apart a New England machine is just too much. I really did get spoiled from all the years working on those cars in California. So now I'm taking a break from the cold, comtemplating just how much the "gas wrench" is going to have to do.

Well back into the cold, stop by later.

 

Sweet.

 

Looking for HELP. I hacve a scalr model project due next friday. Anyone know where I can find plans to Indy Union Station? at any scale so long as it's accurate?

-Morgan

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Posted by Cox 47 on Friday, November 30, 2007 5:23 PM
Howdy All....Cable guy finaly showed up said modum had wrong address tooke 1 1/2 hour and a new line from cable box to modum but computer is back to its oldself and phone is working too...Didn't get any Railroading in....You all have a good friday nite...Jerry
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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Friday, November 30, 2007 7:13 PM
I treated my nieghbors to dinner tonight. We went to Captian D's and all enjoyed the seafood platter. For what you get the price really isn't bad.

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Posted by Hoople on Friday, November 30, 2007 7:25 PM

Evening.

HOW BOUT THEM COWBOYS!?

Kicked the cheeseyheads pretty easily last night, got to watch it becuase my dad's friend has the NFL network.

On the worse side... BLI decided to be BLI. Yesterday, the day before the big boy ships, they change the delivery date from November 30th to December 31st. What great service... Pissed me off real good.

Later.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Friday, November 30, 2007 7:30 PM
 Hoople wrote:

On the worse side... BLI decided to be BLI. Yesterday, the day before the big boy ships, they change the delivery date from November 30th to December 31st. What great service... Pissed me off real good.

Now you know why I no longer order from BLI. Did that once and ended up waiting almost a year for the loco to come. By the time I got it I had moved away from steam and no longer needed it. One of my buddies bought it off me for what I'd paid for it.

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Posted by SilverSpike on Friday, November 30, 2007 7:39 PM

Evenin' folks!

Took a quick break from workin on the railroad......and just dropin in to get a quick hot chai tea to go and be on my way again....

Catch you all later,

Ryan

 

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Posted by CNCharlie on Friday, November 30, 2007 8:02 PM

 Good evening !

 I was sitting at my desk today in my nice warm office thinking of Fergie bouncing across the  briny and wondering what I had to complain about with the weather. About the only tilting I get is if I lean back in my chair. Not warm enough, just turn up the heat! My hat is off to him and all his crew! Seems to me I saw a post where he picked up a nice brass CPR Northern. CP certainly had some beautiful steamers. Just hope my grandfather( the real CNCharlie) can't hear that! I had the good fortune this past September to follow CP's Hudson #2816 for 60 miles all the way from Thief River Falls,MN to the border. The tracks are mostly only 50-100 feet from the highway and I was the only person following it. Just set the cruise, opened the window and listened to the wonderful sounds. Won't forget that soon.

If I seem a little obsessed with the weather that is just part of being a Winnipegger. It was in the paper today that most of Canada can expect the coldest winter in 15 years. Our apologies in advance to all those south of the border for any of it that seeps over the border. We have no control! The border is porous!

I was running my SW8 last night that has QSI sound. I hit F9 and all of a sudden no throttle response! Oh no, now what! Turns out it is meant to do that, why I have no idea. Why would I want to be able to hear the sound increase with the throttle but have no movement? They don't have transmissions. These decoders are somewhat like a cell phone. I often think the engineers who build them just like to show off and give you more features than you will ever use just because they can.

Time to go now as one of our favourite TV shows is on soon.

CNCharlie 

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