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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:48 PM

 I love Tucker's Hobbies in Warren, MA (near Palmer), but it's a bit too far to be considered as a LOCAL Hobby Shop... Like an hour and a half by car...

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Posted by demonwolf224 on Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:54 PM

Railfan Alex

You can also find most of the parts through Walthers, and order directly from them, or from your LHS.

I order from the LHS, advantage being I don't pay shipping or taxes (Hint hint: Get to know your LHS owner!) Tongue

 

LOL I tried to pay my tax when I bought a Bachmann grain hopper and he just said, "It's okay, I'll pay it." Tonight I weathered an Atlas Trainman covered hopper in a C&O heritage. It turned out pretty good, If anybody needs me to weather there grain hoppers, send me a pm!

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:12 PM

Nah, weathering is fun!Cool

I'd be interested in seeing photos of your work though.

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Posted by demonwolf224 on Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:19 PM

I'll see what I can do, are you going to patch that for the WRS?

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Posted by Packer on Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:26 PM

Speaking of weathering and hoppers, I'm seriously thinking of re-doing my 12. I found out that that paint I used comes of with water and scrubbing, so I could re-do it with the same stuff, or try pastels (the leftovers from an art class I had)

 I managed to finish that walthers 100-ton cement hopper, I'm going to weather it after I finish my SP box now that the semester is over.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:28 PM
Nope. It'll get a full repaint as WRS 2306. I might patch 3243 (a CSX U23B), but not this one.
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Posted by Wikious on Thursday, December 11, 2008 6:19 PM

 That's a nice weathering job you have on that Chessie! I haven't posted in a while, so I might as well.

 Due to final projects, I haven't had much time for model trains, but I'm going to change that over winter break. I have 3 engines to paint and decal, one engine to kitbash (Bachmann SD40-2 shell onto an Athearn SDP40 frame... it's not pretty), not to mention putting plows on all of them, about a dozen freight cars to finish painting and decaling, and of course my diorama to finish up.

Whew!

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Posted by demonwolf224 on Thursday, December 11, 2008 6:34 PM

Well, you guys asked for them, here they are:

Since somebody mentioned about an art project, I'll show you my artistic talent:

I drew this up at the end of study hall, as for the hoppers, I am a begginer so critisim is asked for.

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Posted by WCfan on Thursday, December 11, 2008 9:25 PM

Demon, yea, the company Alex F and Alex L said is where I get my MU hoses. Also, nice weathering!

Tyler, what you could do to your SDP35 is you could swap the side frames for a new style Flexi Coil trucks, and cover over the steam generator vents. This would be more proto-typical to the L&N/Family Lines, and later CSX SDP35s, which were used in yard service until the early 90s. So the WRS could have picked it up from the CSX. But it'd have to be in either the "Family Lines" system paint, or WRS, or a leaser, or what ever.

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Friday, December 12, 2008 6:30 AM
I can paint for in 2 weeks I'll have an airbrush!

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Posted by Railfan Alex on Friday, December 12, 2008 2:13 PM

demonwolf224

Well, you guys asked for them, here they are:

They look excellent! I like the rust streaks, and faded logos/lettering.

Think you could explain how did these cars? Especially the rust streaks! Cool

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Posted by demonwolf224 on Friday, December 12, 2008 3:00 PM

Okay cool, here's what I do in order:

  1. Take fine grit sandpaper and wear down the logo's roadnames, etc.
  2. Next, brush rust streaks under the walkway supports, then other random areas. To get straight rust streaks, take a straight edge and brush them beside the straight edge.
  3. Take a large brush and lightly brush the top of the walkways and loaders.
  4. Something that I didn't do yet, add dullcoate.

I would refer to this video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqITo4X2QGM&feature=channel. I think this really made me confident. Thank you everyone for the support!

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Posted by Railfan Alex on Friday, December 12, 2008 3:19 PM

Sweet! I have seen that video, it's awesome!

I'm assuming you used chalks or powers, like he did?

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Posted by demonwolf224 on Friday, December 12, 2008 4:00 PM

I did use chalk powders, like I've said before, I'll weather grain hoppers for free!!! Just send me a PM!!!

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Posted by Packers#1 on Friday, December 12, 2008 4:33 PM

demon, nice work on those hoppers.

I'm seriously going to try not to weather until I can get pastels, weatheirng with paints is a pain in the butt, lol.

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Posted by demonwolf224 on Friday, December 12, 2008 4:35 PM

Thanks, I would definatly stay with pastels, easy to weather and clean up!

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Posted by SD60M on Friday, December 12, 2008 5:03 PM

WOW! That vid was awsome! I watched the one where he weathered and patched a genesis BN SD60M and it looked just like the prototype very nice work!

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Posted by demonwolf224 on Friday, December 12, 2008 9:07 PM

Well tonight I weathered an Athern 50 foot boxcar, tell me what you think:

I tried to add some texture so I would like to know if you see any texture.

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Posted by Packers#1 on Friday, December 12, 2008 9:19 PM

 looks really yeller to me, lol. Do you have a pic of the prototype?

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Posted by demonwolf224 on Friday, December 12, 2008 9:46 PM

I didn't model off a prototype, I thought of the prototype in my head, ya see, I think it's easier to make your own cars and be creative rather than try to make the car perfectly like the prototype. I thought it looks more ornge to me.

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Friday, December 12, 2008 10:23 PM
You have a good technique, I just think the rust is in a poor area. Usually cars get road grime on the lower half. Rust spots are seen where paint has been removed and water allowed to get onto the metal, causing it to rust. This is often next to the order, where repeated, or wrong openings cause it to scratch paint off the area, causing it to rust. Roofs don't see as much attention by the railroads, and some can be very brown... To simulate this kind of rust, I make a batch of brown by mixing red, green, and a little black or gray paints together, then dipping a brush first in it, then into weathering powder(doesn't really matter what shade, but I use AIM) and then brushing it on. The Weathering powder gives a ruff texture, as opposed to a brown painting roof.

 

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Posted by demonwolf224 on Friday, December 12, 2008 10:43 PM

That's cool, but could you tell me why covered hoppers look like this: http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=40012?

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Posted by ns3010 on Sunday, December 14, 2008 12:55 PM

Ok, so I havent updated in a while. I finallly got something done on my layout. It took kinda a long time b/c of school, hockey, a concussion, and of course, shortage of glue. I finished phase 1 of scenery, including the corner area, area next to the road, and between the main and the passing siding. I just need to install the trees. I cant wait for christmas cause i finally get my dcc and the factory. I will also post upates on the website.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 14, 2008 3:30 PM

Providence and Worcester! Cool I agree with Alex, the weathering should be heaviest near the bottom of the car, made by kicked-up dust and grime from the wheels. I have no idea what's wrong with that covered hopper, maybe it carried sand and over time the spilled sand took it's toll? I've never seen another car like that, and I'm fairly certain a boxcar would never weather that way. It's your railroad of course, but...

Sawyer, I have to disagree with you on that point. While pastels are easier and "undoable" if you mess up, paint can be a useful medium to work with. All of my freightcars and locomotives are weathered with paint, and while I've been experimenting with pastels recently, paint is still the main tool in my weathering arsonal.

                                                                        

Not to point fingers, but I've noticed that some of us have become lazy typers, replacing long words with shorthand, such as "with" with "w/" and "because" with "b/c" and generally typing as if this is an instant messanger or a chat room. Spelling, grammer, and capitalization can also be problems.

Let's just say that it isn't great for our (us teenaged train buffs) image as serious hobbists. Everyone participating in this thread gets grouped together by the general populace, even those that type well as much as an adult; Railfan Alex, for example. (I'm only using you as an example because you brought this topic up several months ago. I'd quote you, but I'd have to search all 118 pages to find the post...)

All this is just a suggestion, but it definetely would earn you a lot more respect from the other (mostly adult, but some teens may notice too) members of the forum.

Any thoughts?

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Posted by ns3010 on Sunday, December 14, 2008 4:23 PM

TrainManTy
Not to point fingers, but I've noticed that some of us have become lazy typers, replacing long words with shorthand, such as "with" with "w/" and "because" with "b/c" and generally typing as if this is an instant messanger or a chat room.

You were probably looking at my last post...

And since we're going to do this correctly, I'll type this in correct grammar. I've also noticed that some others, not in this thread, but others, have been typing like this too. I have the feeling that people do this because the forums are a "informal" way of communication. They do think of it as a chat room, rather then a letter or a phone call. Also, I'm not sure about others, but the spellcheck option on my computer is not installed. Back to the shorthand/incorrect grammar, people probably think of communication like this:

Formal- letter, phone, etc: Hello, I think of this form of communication as formal. I write in full words and senteces with correct spelling and grammar.

Informal- IMs, Facebook, chatrooms, forums, etc: heyy watsup. im like not caring if this is formal so like w/e.

I'm not sure what to consider this, but it's really up to the person. It's really easy to split hairs over this.

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Posted by Wikious on Sunday, December 14, 2008 4:28 PM

 Ty, I think it depends on how much 'shorthand' is used. Some of it really is commonplace: c'mon, b/c, w/, etc. These are in almost every-day use (I've seen them on advertisements, even). However, taking it too far is a problem. "hey gyz wts up n hear" or whatever they say is pretty awful. Learn at least part of the language we've all agreed on.

 On a side note, it's hardly teens that might type poorly. I know many older people That Feel The Need To Capitalize Each Letter Online. Almost as bad.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 14, 2008 4:53 PM

Yes, these are commonplace. And you're right in that it's not just teens that sometimes type poorly. It's just that we'd be reinforcing the stereotype that seems to be lodged in the minds of many people: That teens post oodles and oodles of blurry photos and shaky videos of themselves and/or their work online, and accompany them with mispeleed uncappitilized words that rarally are gramatecly corect and oftin incloode shorthande 4 loong wordes and wow this was reely hard 4 i to speel evrything rong lol

Of course, this is total nonsense with many teens I know; they type very well, and many adults Do Type Badley U R Right.

Even if they are used in everyday use, some of them are too much with just them in most cases, "lol" for example. Other ones just don't make sense in the middle of sentances, "b/c" and "w/" for example.

Maybe I am taking this a bit far, but is it too much to ask that people try to write knowing that some people judge them by their writing? Just my My 2 cents

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Posted by Wikious on Sunday, December 14, 2008 10:46 PM

 No, you are absolutely right, Ty. My parents always made the impression on me that how you communicate is how people get their first impression of you. I'm just advocating for a little bit of breathing room- after all, it is an Internet forum.

That being said, let's get back to those trains! :D Here's a quick shot with a really old engine that my mom owns.


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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 15, 2008 8:13 AM

Trains it is!Smile


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Posted by Packer on Monday, December 15, 2008 5:54 PM

I made a few attempts with pastels, and I think it's starting to come along better than weatherining with paint.

This is the Walthers 100-ton cement hopper kit I got at the MR clubs christmas dinner. I personally think this one came out great, I tried to make it look like it's a fairly new car thats been used a bit. Next time I have a kit though, I'll try to do it as I build it, so I can get the hard to reach areas.

This one is a Walthers 4-window wood caboose kit that I managed to get off my project bench. I think the weathering is so-so, and the grabs could stand to be painted yellow and/or white.

I recently accquired another P2K GP30 (I have 3 now, should pull fairly well with the sound equipped unit in the consist) and an Atlas master U30C (It'll be my first atlas engine).  Pics when they get here.

Tyler, I like that CB&Q gon that's in your picture.

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