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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 9:25 AM

 I think you will need a job to afford all that, Alex! Smile,Wink, & Grin

I've created an operation lifesaver commercial for my layout, which consequently is the first video that that 3243 (my new U-boat) is featured in. Safety First! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsszZpC6MBs

Enjoy!

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 3:57 PM

Ok, bear with me here...

So with any luck I'll get a job... I'm looking at Panera or a Stuper Market.

Anyways, here is my revised modeling plan... >_<

Paint my GP30's into New Haven

5 Rapido B&M Osgood Bradley Cars in Maroon

BCW Brass car side Baggage Car kit in B&M

BLI E7 in B&M

Get a new shell+detail parts+sound decoder for my S4 and paint it into Claremont & Concord

Get a pair of RS3's and paint them into Lamoille Valley

Attempt to get a fairly complete Freight Car Roster for my Layout

Work on Layout

 

The Following Locos are ones I'd like to do, but dependent on funding

*Buy a pair of MP15's and paint them into a fictitious B&M Paint Scheme

*Buy a pair of DD40AX's, kitbash them into one unit, and paint them in Pan Am Railways paint 

*Buy a pair of SD7's and kitbash them into SD10's painted into Monadnock Northern Blue+Black

In the end, the Lamoille Valley equipment is what I'd be able to use the most, after all I'm basing the layout on LVRC, with LVRC logos on the RR buildings, etc. The GP30's would be leased to either QNE or WRS. The SD10's would be running a northbound gravel train on the QNE. The MP15's would be switching, or running a local on the QNE, and the "DDD80AXX" no one knows what will happen to it... It will be a show stopper, and might find minimal service on QNE or WRS, but I doubt it could take the curves on WRS, and it would be out of place in any society. The B&M equipment would be run on the club, probably on QNE, and will be kept at Home to run at leisure. I think a couple of the coaches will be used on Lamoille Valley excursions. Lastly the CCRR S4 will probably be used when I want variety on the layout, but since QNE interchanges with CCRR it might find some service life there... And I don't know why anyone would bother to read what I just said! Smile

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 3:29 PM

But your screenname is AC10000CW... Never heard of any of those!Smile,Wink, & Grin I like the AC6000CWs too, they give a really nice "chugging" sound when they're working.

My other favorite locomotives are the SD9, SD40-2 (who doesn't like them?) U23B, F45, GP40P, F40PH SD45, GP38, the list goes on and on... I don't think there are any locomotives I don't like...

Yeah, I'm a modern fan...steamers don't interest me that much, and some electrics are pretty neat too...

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Posted by AC10000CW on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 3:10 PM

 Thx for the welcome Packers#1, WCfan, and TrainManTy.

So out of that back story I had a couple posts ago I would start small and try to build that Pet RR resort shortline (Lake Arthur Resort Railway). So my roster will be thankfully small, and will be having HWT cars so I am going with small steam. ie. 4-4-0, 4-6-0, 0-6-0, 2-8-0, and maybe a doodlebug, come to think of it this lineup looks an awful like the Ma&Pa Laugh. I looked up the route on Google maps and I found theres steel works and machinery shops and a rolling mill, and near the end of the line there is farms and mills and there resort town at the end of the main line. That will be interesting: tourists-vacationers, steel, dairy and grain, an odd combo for a charming little line say only 50miles long.

But you guys are  runinning a little more modern. Which is cool my fav hood diesels are SD9, GP30, SD40-2, GP38-2, RS-11, RSD-15, C630, U30C, SD45, and as you can guess AC6000CW

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Posted by wctransfer on Saturday, October 18, 2008 3:56 PM

While I dont follow this thread (IE:Lazy), I thought I would comment on the GE talk. The Minnesota Commercial (which I see all the time) is all GE/ALCO, with a few MLW's thrown in. A whole batch of B23-7's, a B30-7, C30-7, and even a SF30C (rebuilt by the Santa Fe) are common place here. So your GE's arent that strange at all, because they are cheap to acquire. And an old SD35 isnt that strange either!

But, for Modeling, Im just finishing painting my GCFX 3074's handrails, and then she will be pretty much done. Its a KATO SD40.

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Posted by Packers#1 on Saturday, October 18, 2008 11:06 AM

Hey Tyler, so that's the DDWH history. might have to do some research and create a history for it, lol.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, October 18, 2008 8:45 AM

[#welcome]  AC10000!

That's a neat history you've got, it seems very realistic to me, compared to some I've heard over the years! (My older ones included...)

The worst back story I've heard that I can remember was made by a member of these forums...me! This was its website, which I still need to delete... It ran over the Berkshires with the same endpoints of CSX's former B&A line, and near the Guilford/Pan Am Hoosac Tunnel line as well...

 [URL]http:///[/URL]

This is my new story:

When the B&M line between White River Jct, VT and Concord, NH washed out, Guilford petitioned to abandon the line. The state of New Hampshire purchased the line and provided funding to open a new alignment over a route less prone to washouts. Consequently, the grade was much steeper.

A new railroad company was founded to operate the line, called the White River Southern Railroad. A connecting shortline called the DDWH now operates the remainder of the line that was washed out on the East, and the line on the West side of the washout is currently abandoned.

Start-up power for the WRS was a pair of ex-B&M RS1s, an ex-CN FP7, and an ex-B&M GP9. The RS1s were sold to the DDWH along with the remainder of the washed out line, the FP7 is currently stored in WRJ as a parts source, and the GP9 is still operating as 1701.

Additional power came in the form of a GP9, and later an SDP35 (the steam generator was removed, making it an SD35 with a squared back) and a pair of U23Bs. Other locomotives were also leased for a time, during a traffic surge. These locomotives included a CPRail GP35, an MNER GP30, and a Conrail C40-8. The GP30 was eventually purchased, and is scheduled to be repainted. It is likely that this unit will be sold eventually to fund newer power, possibly a later model EMD or a GE.
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Posted by WCfan on Friday, October 17, 2008 7:14 PM

Welcome AC10000! Now THAT, is how every consist should look on the CN! Great catch, would you by any chance be Craig?

Looks like I might be getting more room from my layout. Right now the Computer desk takes up a lot of space, but with my sister moving into an Apartment, we can move the computer in her old room, which frees up much needed space for my layout. I can also expand in a back room too! This won't happen for a year though, but hopefully plans will actually materialize!

Also, an update on the thread. I think we should follow what TRP did, and not start a new thread at page 100. We should keep this thread going untill Bergie Kicks us out, then we can start TMRP 2. Smile

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Posted by Packers#1 on Friday, October 17, 2008 3:46 PM

Hey AC10000CW, welcome to TMRP. I'm modeling a small portion of a small line of a small railroad that is controlled by the internatinal shortline holding co. SBRail Inc. (or Sawyer Berry Rail Incorporated, lol). Think Gennesee & Wyoming. Right now SBRail Inc. is in control of the Savannah River Rwy. (SRR) (the line I'm modeling), the Aiken Railroad Co. (leaser of locos and frieght cars that operated w/ the SRR), the DDWH (a shortline that interchanges w/ Tyler's layout (Trainmanty), the Pittsburgh & New York (a line that runs from Pittsburgh to New York City), and the Indiana Southern (which operates in the Indiana, Chicago, Ohio, and Kentucky area). The last two railroads where earlier freelanced roads I was going to model this summer, until I came back to modeling Aiken, SC, where my true heart is. My layout will be a 6x6 ft. layout that is 18in. wide and has a 3x3 ft. operator's pit in the middle. The line's two functions are to serve industries along it and provide interchange w/ Norfolk southern and CSX, who both have yards across the Savannah river in Augusta, GA (the one main true fact that's on my layout, the rest is freelanced). There is a small 4 track yard that has a small excess engine terminal (locos that aren't being used are sent there for a little while until they are needed). The main power will be an ex-Conrail B23-7 for the interchange runs and an ex-NW GP35 for the way frieght. If i ever model the yard, the main yard switcher will be a life-like SW8 (unless it just performs so bad that I still use my Atlas H-15-44 for switching duties there (again, if the yard is ever built). I do have a plan, but I'm going to change a portion of it, so I'll post it shortly. and sorry this post is long, it's the first time I've truly typed everything out about my future layout, lol. Any questions, please ask.

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Posted by AC10000CW on Friday, October 17, 2008 3:18 PM

 Hi I am new to the forum I am a little old to be a teen but I like the direction of this thread, since nobody I know likes model railroading or trains, who think this no more interesting than a stop sign or asphalt (sorry for being random), except of course the older people it the near by NMRA sanctioned local club; their great people I am glad to be able to talk about this stuff with them but I can't visit them frequently.

My fav. roads are NYC,B&A, B&M, NH, B&O, WM, DL&W, ERIE, C&O, DT&I, AA, SOO line, C&NW, MILW, DMIR, EJ&E, NKP, GTW, WAB, ACY, DRG&W, WP, SP,S&SW , TP, UP.

Anyways... I am Girish, I live in the Detroit, MI area I plan to model a railroad in the Pittsburgh region and the Western Slopes of the Alleghenies its Called the Pittsburgh, Allegheny and Western (PA&W) [southern half] & Pittsburgh, Ohio, and New York (PO&NY) [nothern half].

It links Binghamton, NY -- Rochester, NY-- Buffalo, NY -- Salamanca, NY -- Pittsburgh, PA -- Charleston, WV -- Cincinnati, OH in an S-curved shaped mainline running North/South in a region where eastern railroads arrive at he foot of the mtns. and head west to the Midwestern States; the parent railroad is the B&O

The back story is Andrew Carnegie got fed-up with the Big-Bossy Pennsy and boycotted service to the PRR from his steel mills, so in an effort to provide cheap transport of his goods he expanded into the Railroad business Allying himself with the B&O and NYC, he bought up all the local railroads with the backing of the Pittsburgh comercial merchant oligarchy (P&LE, B&LE, W&LE, P&WV URR, ACY, BR&P, PS(hawmut)&N, Mongehala, WAG) and reorganized it in the 2 railroads, PONY and PAW which was expanded respectively: north and east around the pennsy to Binghamton, and south to WV coal for his steel mills. All these lines came under the family banner of Carneige Lines (holding company - CarneigeTransCorp. or CTC), which is the modern railroad's name as B&O and WM becomes part of Chessie System. The PAW and PONY will mostly follow B&O practices and adapt to needs when necessary.

There's also  and intresting shortline subsidairy called the Lake Arthur Resort Railway or LARRy which was created as a gift for one of the company's CEO's prodigus son which ran from the Wabash Union Terminal, in downtown Pittsburgh to Portersville, PA a few miles north to a small resort town just east of NewCastle, PA.

As you can see I have thourghly thought this out while being frustrated with my limited resources ($$$!!!). I have a growing rolling stock as these are cheap and easy to buy and kits are good as they are cheaper and let you learn how the whole thing is put together, otherwise I would be too afraid to dismantle it. Athearn Kits are very adaptable. My motive roster includes a Niagra, NKP Berkshire, CSX SD-40-2, B&O FT ABBA set, and NYC 4axle C-liner, Pennsy GP30, BNSF(primer only) Dash 9-44CW. 

Oh and since there is such and ardent fan base of WC i thought I would share this photo that is absolutely jaw dropping regardless of road! Enjoy

WC GP40 - Railpictures.net 

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Friday, October 17, 2008 2:22 PM
Woah Tyler! Look at all that detail on 1701! Strobes? Horns? Ditch Lights? Mu Hoses? Plows?Big Smile

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 17, 2008 1:01 PM

 Let's not lose this thread on the 4th page...

Here's a recent photo from me...


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Posted by Packers#1 on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:46 PM

The forums ain't too bad, do misss the "My Forums" button. I'll give you a detailed description tommorow, I'm to whiped from football to talk. I will say my right calf muscle cramped when the team was on their 20 or 30, I accidently came out a play (wasn't supposed to), then played w/ a cramped up calf till they drove to our 40 or 30, then my left calf gave up, and well, that was the end of that, I had to hop on one foot from the far mark on the field (the mark close to the middle where they put the ball if it goes past that) all the way over to our sideline. I will also say we lost 20-6 and will now be playing for third place in the county next thursday.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:20 PM

Railfan Alex
BTW what do you think of the new forums?

 

It's very..different!  I wish they'd add spellcheck though, it would greatly benefit a few posters... (on the rest of the forum, not just here) I HATE that ad sidebar on the right though!Thumbs Down

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Posted by AC10000CW on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 7:51 PM

 hey sweet sig, luv the varnish!!

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Posted by Wikious on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 6:56 PM

 I just miss being able to jump to the last post in a thread.

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Posted by WCfan on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 5:51 PM

Well, not to be too critical. But I did like the "Forum Jump" At the bottom of the page. I think it's a bit harder to switch to each forum. I also don't like it that I can't view all "My Posts", and that I don't know if I had read that post, or if a new reply has been added. I also lost my Maroon Type Sad (Which I found out how to do now Tongue). But I'll figure a way to get that back Mischief. I'll get use to it, give it a couple weeks.

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Posted by Railfan Alex on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 4:49 PM
That is too bad... At least they are pretty fast at repairs. If I had to ship a Zephyr, it would cost me $50 + shipping, cause Digitrax likes to charge them canadians more... Sad BTW what do you think of the new forums?

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 3:53 PM

 So my Digitrax Zephyr just blew... I'm going to have to pay a $35 repair cost, as the warrenty expired in January. I'm shipping it tomorrow, and the Digitrax site says it takes about 10 days to repair a problem, so it should be in soon enough... Hopefully it won't happen again...

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 7:03 PM

Hmm... I will have to change my locomotives then... Did CN have RS1s? I could switch all the startup locos to ex-CN.

I thought of Fingerlakes when I was writing that post, wonder why I didn't mention it... Mass Central is a good insperation as well! Oddly enough, at one point I was thinking of modeling a shortline on the former B&M Central Mass route, named the Central Mass...

I think I'll get a book about the Central Massachusetts, and if anyone comes up to me and tells me my roster is all wrong, I'll shove the book into their hands and tell them to read it!Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

I had though about leasers, but I decided that two leasers and three (if the SD35 is a WRS unit) home road locos isn't a great balance...

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Posted by trainlover38 on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 6:36 PM
Sounds good. Do u have any pictures?
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Posted by Wikious on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 5:57 PM
Tyler- one option is that you could give them a leasing paint job. Railroad needed some extra muscle, or maybe they're trying the larger units out to switch providers.

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 5:45 PM

But Boston & Maine 471 was originally a Canadian National GP9RM, and only became B&M power after the Guilford take-over... Whistling [:-^]

I assume WRS chopped the nose themselves.

Whenever anyone feels odd about their roster take a look at Fingerlakes Railway or Mass Central.

FGLK uses B23-7's B30-7's, and a mix of chopped GP9's and standard GP9's. 

Mass Central uses GP9's, an NW5, a CF7, and previous a Whiting 44 Tonner, 2 C425's, and an FP7. I think judging by your location, your roster isn't too far off compared to other railroads. 

BTW, B&M never had RS1's. They had RS2's, RS3's, S1/2/3/4/5's, and S5m's. After McGinnis took over in 1957, no subsequent ALCo's were purchased, and a lot of the older power like the BL2's, and FT's were traded in for four newer GP18's, and a lot of GP9's. They also owned a dozen GP38-2's, and leased 18 GP40-2's from EMD. Rather than reknewing the lease, they were resold by EMD to Helm, and CP, where they still run in fading Gray and Blue.

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Posted by Packers#1 on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 5:45 PM
Hey tyler, there's really nothing to painting locos. Just make sure your masking is good and tight. Now as to decaling...well, I've never done it, so no experience there. I handpaint my locos w/ a paintbrush, are you using a paintbrush or airbrush?

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Posted by C&O 2-6-6-6 on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 4:46 PM

Just got a order in from the LHS.

1 rock island modern box car

2 C&O flat cars

3 C&O gondolas

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Posted by WCfan on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 4:33 PM

Regionals do tend to stick to one builder. But I'm positive there is a road out there that is a mix of EMDs and GEs. I don't think your SDP35 is out of place at all. WC had only ONE SD35 on there entire roster, and they only had ONE SD40, and 5 SD40-2s. So it isn't out of place.

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Posted by Railfan Alex on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 4:14 PM
Hey!

It's a fictional, and you can do whatever you want!

Here's an idea:

They got the SD35 because they wanted better tractive effort (6 axle SD35 vs. 4 axle GP9) but they didn't want to go with anything older than an SD35, because of their age.

As for the GE's, they later wanted more 4 axle power, with a similar horsepower rating to the SD35's.

But once again, it's a fictional!

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Posted by trainlover38 on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 4:08 PM
hey guys- construction on my model railroad is SLOW!!!!!!. Im 12, so I cant drive to the hobby shop everyday. Anyway, you guys' layouts are looking good!
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:59 PM
 Guilford Guy wrote:

Wooooooo! No more custom painting for me! Big Smile [:D]

Good luck on your locos Tyler, it seems everyone has been getting GE's lately...

Thought you might like that...Wink [;)]

I love GE U-boats, but they don't really fit in with the typical image of a shortline, especially one with my freelanced history...

When the B&M line between White River Jct, VT and Concord, NH washed out, Guilford petitioned to abandon the line. The state of New Hampshire purchased the line and provided funding to open a new alignment over a route less prone to washouts. Consequently, the grade was much steeper.

A new railroad company was founded to operate the line, called the White River Southern Railroad. A connecting shortline called the DDWH now operates the remainder of the line that was washed out on the East, and the line on the West side of the washout is currently abandoned.

Start-up power for the WRS was a pair of ex-B&M RS1s, an ex-CN FP7, and an ex-B&M GP9. The RS1s were sold to the DDWH along with the remainder of the washed out line, the FP7 is currently stored in WRJ as a parts source, and the GP9 is still operating as 1701.

Additional power came in the form of a GP9, and later an SDP35 (the steam generator was removed, making it an SD35 with a squared back) and a U23B. This is where the story gets a bit odd... For a New England shortline running an all EMD early Geep roster, buying an SD or especially a GE is very non-steriotypical. Most smaller railroads stick to one builder, unless they've had a problem with the other. Plus, the SD doesn't make sense. The leap from a GP7/9 to an SD35 is huge. They either got a really good deal, or needed a lot of tractive effort all of a sudden!

The GE doesn't fit either... Must've been a good deal! Incidentally, both of the model locos were really good deals, which is which I purchased them. Anyone got a backstory for the SD and/or GEs?

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:40 PM

Wooooooo! No more custom painting for me! Big Smile [:D]

Good luck on your locos Tyler, it seems everyone has been getting GE's lately...

Alex

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