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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 27, 2008 10:03 AM

WCfan

Tyler I hope you don't get sued for copyright issues Tongue

 

Well, as long as the only side of 1701 people see is the side with the number on it, I'm good! Not likely for me to turn the loco around to show the WRS initials, because then you'd have to look at the back of the loco to see the number... The front doesn't have numbers in the numberboards, and only one side of the cab has them, because I think someone ran out of decals...Tongue

I got the video of the South Shore Model Railroad Club's open house up, and this one I think is comparable to the videos of my home layout, as I deleted the audio and dubbed in prototype audio... So now you can't hear the little kids talking about the trains, and the member asking me if I'm doing a school project... (he sounded rather surprised to hear that I'm a modeler myself...) I wish I could videotape trains for a school project!Smile,Wink, & Grin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phSML0Ntdr4

Enjoy!

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Posted by WCfan on Sunday, October 26, 2008 8:34 PM

I think ATSF might of just rebuilt a few into SD45Bs, just like they did with some SD45-2. They also could of been wrecks, and did what the BN did. I'll have to look into it more.

Looks like ATSF only rebuilt 3 SD45s into B units. I didn't find anything as why they rebuilt them into B units. But I did find out one made it untill 2004! ATSF also rebuilt 8 SD45-2s into B units, which can still be seen today. Other wise, I'm not sure why ATSF rebuilt units into B units. They had the A-B-B-A F units, A-B-B-A SD45s, A-B-B-A SD45-2s, and A-B-B-A GP60s. Not sure why ATSF wanted B units.

Tyler I hope you don't get sued for copyright issues Tongue

Sawyer, that's some good money!

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Posted by Packers#1 on Sunday, October 26, 2008 8:16 PM

I'm happy, because I got a $100 bill from my grandma (the one in Florence) for working so hard this weekend. I'm gonna spend it on a new Packers hat, then a Walthers catalog, and then who knows what else.

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Posted by Railfan Alex on Sunday, October 26, 2008 7:27 PM

Not the end of the world, after all, I don't think anyone has really heard of Widmer Rail Services, right? Laugh

As for the SD45 ABBA sets, how did they come about? Were the B's wreck rebuilds or something?

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Sunday, October 26, 2008 6:00 PM

 LOL, the colors are pretty similar!

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 26, 2008 5:54 PM

 I might try tin foil...

Also, I just found out that the WRS initials aren't just mine...
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=298919

They are used by Wilmer Rail Services (reporting marks WRS) down in Texas somewhere... So, in my reality, WRS had the initials first...

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Posted by WCfan on Sunday, October 26, 2008 5:06 PM

I wish I could of railfanned in the 70s and 80s...

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=223768&nseq=1

(You should check out www.railpictures.net they have some nice rosters of BN F45s)

I found a picture on RP that had a SD45, SD45B, SD45B, SD45 consist on the ATSF.

EDIT: Here's a few I turned up. What I wouldn't do if I ahd a chance to see these!

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=121262&nseq=4

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=121263

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=131527

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Posted by Packer on Sunday, October 26, 2008 3:59 PM
WCfan

It's too bad that F45 wasn't with two other 45 model units. But that's still a cool helper consist, and some nice power on the head end too! The GE U30Cs and C30-7 are my favorite GEs. I miss the old BN.

Tyler, I think you should try the Tin Foil car idea.

http://www.users.qwest.net/~choice157565252/pictures/bn6600.jpg

That's the closest I've found in BN, there is only an SD40-2 breaking it up.

 I have a ATSF F45, SD45, SD45, F45 consist picture some where. It's a MRP ad, but I liked the picture alot.

SD60M

NICE! Gotta love them BN F45's! Makin sure i get one from athearn. I wonder why the U30C just had the logo under the window but no Burlington Northern?

I'm hopefully getting 2, with at least one being sound equipped. Athearns dates for them are early november for sound, mid-december for non-sound. Just in time for Christmas. Unfortunealy, there are only 3 numbers being done, and they aren't doing the GN version in BN either.Sign - Dots

As for the GE U30C, maybe it's the Alco trying to get out.

Vincent

Wants: 1. high-quality, sound equipped, SD40-2s, C636s, C30-7s, and F-units in BN. As for ones that don't cost an arm and a leg, that's out of the question....

2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.

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Posted by Railfan Alex on Sunday, October 26, 2008 3:53 PM

Alex: I would just paint the tin foil, then you would minimize possible shorts.

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Posted by SD60M on Sunday, October 26, 2008 3:39 PM

NICE! Gotta love them BN F45's! Makin sure i get one from athearn. I wonder why the U30C just had the logo under the window but no Burlington Northern?

Long Live The Burlington Northern!
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Posted by WCfan on Sunday, October 26, 2008 3:36 PM

It's too bad that F45 wasn't with two other 45 model units. But that's still a cool helper consist, and some nice power on the head end too! The GE U30Cs and C30-7 are my favorite GEs. I miss the old BN.

Tyler, I think you should try the Tin Foil car idea.

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Sunday, October 26, 2008 3:32 PM

 I considered that today, when at the White Elephant section was an OLD F45 with only 1 truck and no axles...

I went up to the South Shore show today and watched as Bill broke everything... Big Smile Inside Joke

I think Tin foil would work, but you'd have the brace the part away from the loco, so inside of being just pushed along, it gets crumpled. and dragged.

BTW, wouldn't tin foil cause a short?

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Posted by Packer on Sunday, October 26, 2008 2:48 PM

Maybe you could make a car out of paper, then put some lead in it so it doesn't go flying.

Wonder what it would look like if a real car got hit by an operating rotary plow. My model does nothing to a model car.

 

While searching youtube for a BN f45 footage I came across these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9y5ikK6OAQ&feature=related WC45 on a CSX train

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-ulNpjIRIU&feature=related HO DD35 and U50

I did find some cool BN footage though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygab6YnYrOI

If ya'll are doing a double DD 40, you think yall could do a double F45?

Vincent

Wants: 1. high-quality, sound equipped, SD40-2s, C636s, C30-7s, and F-units in BN. As for ones that don't cost an arm and a leg, that's out of the question....

2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.

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Posted by WCfan on Sunday, October 26, 2008 12:27 PM

Tin foil might work. If you trying to make it so the locomotive bends it, depending on how tick the foil is, the locomotive might not be able to bend it. It's worth a shot though. You could also get a cheap plastic car and bend it for an "After" collision.

Well it is final; I do get to get more space for my layout. I'm not sure when building will start. But it probably won't be for a while.

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Posted by Niagara Railroader on Saturday, October 25, 2008 1:41 PM

 lol! This should be a whole new thread on how to make a really prototypical train vs car accident!

 

Tinfoil may still be too "strong" by itself, so why not rig up something like a small plastic washer on a piece of fishing line that you feed through a small hole in the tinfoil, with the washer on the outside (where you wouldnt see if if the camera was facing the train). Feed the line under the car, and out of the cameras eye, and when the train hits, simply pull the line, it will pull the washer into the tinfoil, and you will get a huge impact! Just remember not to pull to tightly or else the washer will go through the tinfoil instead of just compacting it( which could be really cool as well!!!) 

 

 

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Posted by Railfan Alex on Saturday, October 25, 2008 1:27 PM

You don't need to do wheels. Just use the original ones!

 They don't get too damaged in an accident.

 I mean if you are facing the train, the half car out of tin foil won't be seen, only the plastic side.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 24, 2008 8:42 PM

 Uh, how would you not see windows if the camera was facing the train? Do cars in Canada not have side windows?Smile,Wink, & Grin

All kidding aside, that would look pretty neat. I might try wrapping the tin foil around a scale auto to get the contours right. Also, a convertable would be easiest, as you don't have to make side windows. Plus you get to see what happens to the figure inside... Mischief I'll do that, if I can figure out how to do wheels...

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Posted by Railfan Alex on Friday, October 24, 2008 8:34 PM

I thought that the video was good.

Like I said, I want to make one too. It would be hard, but I would like to make the car out of tin foil, or at least modify the side that would get hit. It would take forever, but if you weighted it after, it would be pretty spectacular!! You wouldn't need to get windows or anything fancy, because you wouldn't see it if the camera was facing the train.

Just a thought.

What do you think? Good idea?

Alex

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 24, 2008 11:39 AM

Packers#1

TrainManTy

 I think you will need a job to afford all that, Alex! Smile,Wink, & Grin

I've created an operation lifesaver commercial for my layout, which consequently is the first video that that 3243 (my new U-boat) is featured in. Safety First! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsszZpC6MBs

Enjoy!

Where's the car getting bent around the front of that U23B?! lol, seriously, good vid. Would be even better if you included where the train hits the car.

 

The actual collision looks really fake, as the car is just tossed aside like a tiny bit of plastic, instead of being crumpled around the plow of the engine like would really happen. Also, a sound effect would be a bit tricky, as I'd have to find a collision sound and combine it with the locomotive horn (I actually recorded it on an MBTA F40PH-2C in Worcester, MA) to sound right.

Alex: You're probably right. Four geeps would be a lot more expensive than two DD40s. It would still look really cool though!Smile,Wink, & Grin

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Posted by Packers#1 on Thursday, October 23, 2008 7:08 PM

Guilford Guy

 I dunno Ty.

I think the Bachmann DD40 bash might be easier, and cheaper than buying 4 Geeps. Originally Josh and I were going to kitbash a few Tunnel Motors into an articulated unit on DD frames, but that fell through. Also, a 4 unit Geep set would seem overkill compared to a 2  Unit DD...

But overkill always look so much better, lol ;)

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Thursday, October 23, 2008 7:04 PM

 I dunno Ty.

I think the Bachmann DD40 bash might be easier, and cheaper than buying 4 Geeps. Originally Josh and I were going to kitbash a few Tunnel Motors into an articulated unit on DD frames, but that fell through. Also, a 4 unit Geep set would seem overkill compared to a 2  Unit DD...

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Posted by Packers#1 on Thursday, October 23, 2008 3:54 PM

AC10000CW, i've seen that top gear vid. You seen there series on trying to kill a Toyota?

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Posted by Packers#1 on Thursday, October 23, 2008 3:34 PM

TrainManTy

 I think you will need a job to afford all that, Alex! Smile,Wink, & Grin

I've created an operation lifesaver commercial for my layout, which consequently is the first video that that 3243 (my new U-boat) is featured in. Safety First! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsszZpC6MBs

Enjoy!

Where's the car getting bent around the front of that U23B?! lol, seriously, good vid. Would be even better if you included where the train hits the car.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 23, 2008 7:04 AM

 Alex: You could base your DD40 kitbash on what UP did to create the DD40s... The DD40s are just two GP35s on one frame, and with different trucks. So, imagine if you strung 4 GP35s together, except each would be articulated seperately. If they shared trucks, that would be five trucks, and with each unit only as long as a GP35, it could handle almost any curve. Think of it like an impack intermodel set, except with locomotives... They can handle my curves without a problem, because they have each unit only being about 50 feet, instead of however many feet the whole 5-unit (or the 7 unit set on the WRS) set as a single unit.

The impack truck sharing idea would work great as well, where each unit has a truck on one end (except for one of the ends), and the other end has something to connect to the unit there, on top of it's truck.

I think four GP35s would be a whole lot more impressive than two DD40s, and it would give it the ability to go around much sharper curves than a DD40 set. There are less axles, true, (10 compared to 12) but that problem could be solved by substituting an SD9 for the GP35s!Tongue Now THAT would be really impressive!

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Posted by WCfan on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 9:17 PM

Well, because we are talking about our favorite locomotives...

I like all EMDs SD70 Spartan CabDown. My favorite locomotives are any 45 series locomotives, and any 60 series locomotive, except the two window SD60Ms, for some reason they just look too much like an SD70M.

Tyler, nice video!

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 7:05 PM

 Oooooh Boston & Albany STeam! Big Smile

Of Course, I like B&M's crazy 2-8-4's and 2-10-2s a bit more... Smile

And here is the DD40 kitbash drawing for those who haven't seen...


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Posted by SD60M on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 6:35 PM

Well i SCREWED UP on my benchwork and trackplan! AAAHHH! Two things are wrong with my trackplan i thought a 6x8 would be plenty of room for 24" and 22" curves (im planning a twice around) but i break out my bachmann e-z track 18" and 22" curves and WOW they barely work! My yard is also pathetic 3 tracks and one can only fit a caboose and maybe a 40' car! The benchwork is a island type so i can get in the middle. I hope i can save the plywood but im going to have to do some tweaking so my AC6000CW and my SD70MAC's can run without problems!

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Posted by AC10000CW on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 5:03 PM

TrainManTy

 I think you will need a job to afford all that, Alex! Smile,Wink, & Grin

I've created an operation lifesaver commercial for my layout, which consequently is the first video that that 3243 (my new U-boat) is featured in. Safety First! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsszZpC6MBs

Enjoy!

 

That reminds me of another RR safety video from the crazy guys of BBC's Top Gear.

BCC-Top Gear - Car safety message

This one is not for the squeamish the solid mass of the locos is very apparent in this short clip

Rail safety also applies to the RR employees too.

This one is even more squeamish as rail safety is a must not only for humans.

wait for the thud!

and and a US story w/ irony from:

ABC's Today Show with Ann Curry

btw TrainmanTy kudos on the work on your video.Thumbs Up

Unrelated to the above a heavenly consist, try to guess the HP

Heavenly consist

 

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Posted by AC10000CW on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:00 PM

TrainManTy

But your screenname is AC10000CW... Never heard of any of those!Smile,Wink, & Grin I like the AC6000CWs too, they give a really nice "chugging" sound when they're working.

My other favorite locomotives are the SD9, SD40-2 (who doesn't like them?) U23B, F45, GP40P, F40PH SD45, GP38, the list goes on and on... I don't think there are any locomotives I don't like...

Yeah, I'm a modern fan...steamers don't interest me that much, and some electrics are pretty neat too...

 

well steamers might not be efficient, but steamer still have more drawbar horsepower than the most modern diesels, so loco manfactures still need to create one loco with one engine on one frame thats exceeds 8000+hp, no doubt it will eventually happen, but for now it's for naught. and this is  a pic of my fav steam gems that made me fall in love with steam, can you guess its Whyte notation?

NYC - B&A #400 B&A 1409

 

Guilford Guy

*Buy a pair of DD40AX's, kitbash them into one unit, and paint them in Pan Am Railways paint 

you are a Wild Man you are!!Evil, seeing UP's hand and upping the anty eh? I'll get back to you on the minimum radius requried and the radius that will make it look proto typical. The DD40X is 98ft 5in long (conservative I'm thinking coupler face to coupler face) these locos had what is now old prime movers, the EMD 645series, which was before computer chip control to minimize wheel slip and increase HP.

Along those lines, just for fun, I would like to own a UP engine that they used for fast freights on sherman hill at a sustained speed of 50mph, and no plains states' loco terminals turntable could accomodate, the special Union Pacific type the 4-12-2!!!!! That would be a beast, only russia one-uped that design. their TE was rated at 96,000lbs which is incredible considering USRA 2-6-6-2 had 110,000lbs and 2-8-4(lima built) is 69,000lbs and 4-8-4 Nigaras(Alco) are 66,000lbs.

 

Guilford Guy


And I don't know why anyone would bother to read what I just said!

and I just did.Cool

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Posted by Railfan Alex on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 2:17 PM

Nice Tyler!

I like it, and it kinda wants me to do one at our club!

Alex

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