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Posted by maxman on Monday, July 23, 2012 2:09 PM

scribbelt

Hello everyone, I fiddled around with CV 113, and no changes other than the sound came on when the loco was throttled to go forwards or backwards.

Now I've created a problem, when I put the power back on the tracks (the loco which I tried to modify CV 113) the engine starts up automatically even if I didn't select the loco... Only that loco none of the others on the tracks.

Any ideas how to correct this?

Thank you.

I thought that was what it was doing before.  Change CV 113 back to zero and see if you go back to the original condition.

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Posted by scribbelt on Monday, July 23, 2012 2:01 PM

Hello everyone, I fiddled around with CV 113, and no changes other than the sound came on when the loco was throttled to go forwards or backwards.

Now I've created a problem, when I put the power back on the tracks (the loco which I tried to modify CV 113) the engine starts up automatically even if I didn't select the loco... Only that loco none of the others on the tracks.

Any ideas how to correct this?

Thank you.

Serge

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Posted by maxman on Monday, July 23, 2012 12:57 PM

rrinker

Using e-stop to shut it down is highly impractical, although you can configure your throttle to use only a local e-stop (stops only YOUR selected locos) - and the UT series throttles don't have e-stop.

Randy, I'm curious why you say this.  Other than the fact that the UT series doesn't have e-stop, if the throttle can be configured to stop the selected loco I'm not sure what is impractical.

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Posted by scribbelt on Monday, July 23, 2012 12:52 PM

Hello Randy, thank you for the additional infos.

I will give you an update as soon as I fiddle around with CV 113.

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Posted by rrinker on Monday, July 23, 2012 12:43 PM

 My one Tsunami works on my Digitrax system the way Elmer described. When I power on my layout, it is silent. When I address it, it plays the startup sounds and goes to idle. I never fooled around with anythign other than address, volume, and reverb/equalizer settings. CV113 is the one to adjust though. Usually it's the other systems that need this changed - Digitrax always sends packets to any active address, other systems sometimes only send packets if you change something, liek speed or a function, so the decoder stops seeing packets addressed to it and shuts off.

Using e-stop to shut it down is highly impractical, although you can configure your throttle to use only a local e-stop (stops only YOUR selected locos) - and the UT series throttles don't have e-stop.

                   --Randy


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Posted by scribbelt on Monday, July 23, 2012 12:27 PM

Hello Elmer and Maxman,thank you for the infos, I will modify the CV related to the engine start; make a few tests and let you know the outcome.

Have a nice day.

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Posted by maxman on Monday, July 23, 2012 12:06 PM

Try setting CV113 to a value other than zero, for instance a value of 1.  When you stop the engine, turn off all functions (horn, bell, lights, etc).  After a short period of time, the engine sounds should stop.  At that point, according to the Tsunami Diesel Technical Reference ( http://www.soundtraxx.com/manuals/Tsunami%20Diesel%20Technical%20Reference_1.13.pdf ) the sounds should not re-start until the loco is addressed.  What I don't know is if the sounds start with the start-up sequence, or with the idle sound.  If you try this, please let me know.

I have NCE.  And I found that I could shut down the engine sounds by pressing the emergency stop key.  At that point the engine would re-start with the start-up sequence when I selected one of the functions, for example turning on the headlight.  It is my understanding that the Digitrax systems also have an ability to do the same process.  Unfortunately I don't know what that is.

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Posted by gandydancer19 on Monday, July 23, 2012 11:56 AM

Yes there is a CV for that.  However, you will have to look in the manual for it as I don't remember what the CV number is.  (I use JMRI's Decoder Pro for programming my decoders.)  The manual can be downloaded from the Soundtraxx web site.  Look for something like 'engine starts up at speed step one'.

I have an NCE system and here is the way it usually works for me:

1.  When the layout is turned on the loco is silent.  When speed step one is reached on the throttle, the loco start up sound begins.  (I have my locos programmed to start moving at speed step two.)

2.  If the loco engine sound is in idle but stopped, if you press emergency stop, the loco engine shut down sound starts.  Next time you crack the throttle, the start up sound starts again.

Elmer.

The above is my opinion, from an active and experienced Model Railroader in N scale and HO since 1961.

(Modeling Freelance, Eastern US, HO scale, in 1962, with NCE DCC for locomotive control and a stand alone LocoNet for block detection and signals.) http://waynes-trains.com/ at home, and N scale at the Club.

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Starting Engine Sound
Posted by scribbelt on Monday, July 23, 2012 9:03 AM

Hello, I have a  HO GP7 equipped with Micro-Tsunami TSU-750 (EMD 567) and every time I select it , the engine sound is already on idle.

I have a  Digitrax system and would like to know if there would be a Tsunami CV value to modify this "Engine Idle"  to "Engine Starting" sound.

Thank you.

Serge

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