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Implications Of Moving Abandoned Locomotives And Rolling Stock

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Posted by NWP SWP on Monday, March 20, 2017 2:16 PM

Ok what about via truck? And how much would it be to just purchase the equipment?

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Posted by mlehman on Monday, March 20, 2017 2:14 PM

I think Carl has a pretty good guess, as I was going to say $10k or so for a short local move with the caboose, assuming there's no bridges or other obstructions that force a longer route.

For that big electric, $1 million is probably ballpark, but could be more. The main issue are what I assume it has under it, old school "friction" bearings. They are no longer allowed in interchange and would need -- count the axles -- replacement with roller bearings...$$$$$$...to move on it's own wheels...and that's just for starts. Shipment as a load would require breaking it down onto separate flats, maybe even depressed center flats, cranes at either end...local drayage...it's going to be real expensive...Surprise

 

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Posted by NWP SWP on Monday, March 20, 2017 2:10 PM

How much would you think the owner would sell it for? Thats the T-Motor. But also the caboose.

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Posted by NWP SWP on Monday, March 20, 2017 2:05 PM

Of course one would get the ownership of the equipment FIRST!!!

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Posted by SouthPenn on Monday, March 20, 2017 2:03 PM

Looks like someone knows they are there. The bearing caps are wrapped in plastic.

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Posted by 7j43k on Monday, March 20, 2017 2:01 PM

If a person were going to move either of those things (the caboose or the locomotive), they could be moved either on the rails pretty much as they are OR as a load.

The former is almost impossible, because the equipment would have to be "brought up to code", so to speak.  And with permission of what I would think would be a vast number of large corporations and government agencies.

OR.

As a load.  Nobody much cares about the condition of a load, other than it be secured, not overweight, and not leaking non-approved chemicals.  You could transport it with a wheeled vehicle (a flat bed or low boy) or on rails.  Either might have to be partially diassembled, mainly for clearances during transport.

For something only a few miles away, diligent effort might find a clever low-cost method.  MAYBE.

 

FWIW, when I was just a few years older than 16, I and a buddy were offered a real live PRR gas-electric for $1.  I believe the "guts" still worked, as it was owned by a trolley museum that was using it for power until they got a real utility drop.

Oh, the fantasies we had!

Of course, we had to remove it from the property at our own expense.

 

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Posted by carl425 on Monday, March 20, 2017 1:45 PM

The most serious implication would jail.

If this is truly an academic curiosity, there are several articles and videos about moving cabooses.  Try google.

Here's a guy that did it for just over 9 grand.

http://www.caboosenut.com/movingcaboose.htm

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Implications Of Moving Abandoned Locomotives And Rolling Stock
Posted by NWP SWP on Monday, March 20, 2017 12:58 PM

Hi I have an interesting conundrum for all of you. Ok first on a highway near my house there is a grade crossing for a unused railline (at least it was/is at the moment but it will probably be in use soon due to all the track work going on) and when I look down the line I see a caboose that appears to be either in a siding or something what would be the logistical implications of moving it about ten miles away to my house (I live on 8 acres so space isn't a problem) now this is just curiosity so its not like I'm actually going to do it. Here is a link to Google Maps Earth View of the cabooses current location: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ethel,+LA+70730/@30.7177489,-91.2152609,109m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x862684069cfdb7d3:0x57910e232d72e70f!8m2!3d30.7905788!4d-91.1313095

And now for my second question, I was googleing about NYC P2 Boxcabs when I learned of a few locos and some rolling stock that is just rotting away in Glenmont, NY at Beacon Island and I was wondering what would it take to get some or all of the equipment out of there and all the way down here to Louisiana I'm especially interested in the boxcab in the picture below. Also here's a link to a Google Map of the area: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Beacon+Island/@42.6004263,-73.7658747,291a,35y,270h/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x89dde19154cfa573:0xa8ef729b1a81baee!8m2!3d42.6034132!4d-73.765399

T-3 #278/NYC S-1 #100 Glenmont 2012

NYC T-3 #278

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