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Posted by gmpullman on Saturday, May 20, 2017 2:59 AM

Hi, fellows

The only information I have on that contraption is what you see written in the margins. I imagine that machine would only be able to work ballast that has already been loosened due to traction/wheel slippage?  So as Dave mentions maybe it was used to bring the ballast back up to profile after a tie replacement project was completed.

I have this Erie Railroad photo of an apparatus for removing the ballast prior to tie work. Note that it has to be driven by the rack anchored to the ties.

Labor savings was the rule of the day back then as much as it is today. I wonder what these hardy men would think of the laser-guided, air-conditioned, sound abated cabs of the Jackson-Pandrol machines in use today?

http://www.harscorail.com/equipment.html

Always something interesting, aye?

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Posted by hon30critter on Saturday, May 20, 2017 12:43 AM

Bear and Ed:

I'm guessing by the angle of the discs that they are designed to pull the ballast back up against the ends of the ties. I suspect that when they were deployed they went down on an angle equal to the desired slope of the ballast.

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Posted by "JaBear" on Saturday, May 20, 2017 12:38 AM
OK Ed, I’ve got to bite!
Being a farm boy from away back, I’m familiar with the purpose of a set of discs, but am struggling to put them in context regarding maintenance of the permanent way.
 
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Posted by gmpullman on Friday, May 19, 2017 10:59 PM

Hello???

You still here, BATMAN?

How about revitalizing this old thread or starting a new one? This bunch got lazy in your absenceWhistling

 

How about a neat shot, taken by my dad's brother-in-law, Stanley Mackenzie, to get the ball rolling again.

Probably photographed at Warren, N.H. where Stanley was station agent. I'm not up on my radiator spotter's guide, is that a '32 Ford hiding under there?

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Posted by BigDaddy on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 5:20 PM

It's clearly a mish mash of stuff from the internet.  I suppose if you stood where each picture was taken you would know what it was.  Did you catch the crossings of HO track?

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Posted by ACY Tom on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 4:30 PM

"Abandoned" seems to be appropriate in some cases, but certainly not all. Several views show items that are owned by RR museums and planned for future restoration, although they aren't on the near-term schedule.  The East Broad Top is most certainly not abandoned, although it is dormant.  If you don't believe me, ask Kovalchik's lawyers. At least one view seems to show the remains of track that has been washed out. Without any more information, we can't necessarily conclude that the track is not going to be restored. I didn't watch the whole thing: Too depressing.

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Posted by gmpullman on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 3:15 PM

I have been to the East Broad Top's "stranded" hopper cars at Mount Union, Pennsylvania several times. 

http://www.railpictures.net/photo/502169/

http://www.railpictures.net/photo/512773/

The video seems to show these at 3:07. Some of those other scenes look like they have been digitally rendered using Photoshop Lightroom or similar software. The PRR M1a at the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania in the video at 3:29 has been "enhanced" using these techniques.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRR_M1#/media/File:Pennsylvania_Railroad_M1b_6755.jpg

I would venture that some of those scenes are not of abandoned rail lines but enhanced to look like it. The tunnel at 7:39 sure looks like it gets regular use (Pandrol clips on the ties).

I wonder if some of those photos are from the Chernobyl "Zone Of Alienation"? I'd say about half of the photos are from former Russian sites.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Chernobyl+Exclusion+Zone+railways&biw=1344&bih=770&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjHhYqCvZTOAhUDMSYKHUGaBCIQ_AUICCgD

Still, an interesting video. Thanks for posting it,

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Posted by BATMAN on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 11:17 AM

I don't think the pic's in this video are just from America as the title states. However, for those of us that enjoy exploring ghostly haunts from the past, there are some cool photo's here.

Has anyone been to any of the places in the video, either in its present state or when it was still in operation?

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Posted by "JaBear" on Sunday, July 24, 2016 6:15 AM

BATMAN
Wot happened to the middle one, did it sink

No, the South Island was renamed Stewart Island so the Middle Island was renamed the South Island. Confused Te Ika a Maui, Te Wai Pounamu, and Rakiura have been formalised as the official Maori names.

BATMAN
In the previous video, I posted they put a ring on a hose in the smoke stack. Can someone educate me on what that is all about?

Creating a draught to help get the fire going properly.
NZR Ww644, 4-6-4T, steaming up at Glenbrook, Feb 2012.
 
on Flickr 
 
 
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Posted by BATMAN on Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:23 PM

Heck you want boring normal, for a while we had the North, Middle, and South Islands. (Still got the North and South Islands).

Wot happened to the middle one, did it sink?Confused

Great video Bear, those guys riding on and behind were having just too much fun.

In the previous video, I posted they put a ring on a hose in the smoke stack. Can someone educate me on what that is all about?

Well, I haven't gotten around to making all my Loco's dirty and grimy yet, so it is nice to see a prototype following my lead with some clean power. I wonder what they look like now. (a year later)

Eight little piggies engines went to market.


 

 

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Posted by "JaBear" on Friday, July 22, 2016 6:46 AM

Ah Batman, nothing like a Ja locomotive to make a bloke go weak at the knees.
BATMAN
Why can't this country have normal sounding names
 
Heck you want boring normal, for a while we had the North, Middle, and South Islands. (Still got the North and South Islands).Zzz
 
I find RDGCaseys kitbashed locomotives, especially the Camelbacks, most fascinating and I recently came across this. I was surprised that the Camelbacks were still running on the CNJ in the mid 50s.

 
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Posted by BATMAN on Thursday, July 21, 2016 2:32 PM

This looks light it would be a good trip to take, however with a name such as "Paekakariki" how are we ever to find the place? Why can't this country have normal sounding names for their towns like "Quispamsis" or "Skookumchuk" or "Punkeydoodles Corners". I don't know, I just don't know.

Anywho, here is the morning routine.Sleep

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Posted by BATMAN on Sunday, July 17, 2016 10:45 AM

That's very cool Ed. I like the common sense, plain speak of the instruction manual, how I long for those days.

I wonder what the price of one of those was back in the day. Someone posted a price list for various (old time) RR equipment a while back. I wonder if this was on the list.

Here is an old steamer having a tough start, however using true South African ingenuity they add a propeller to the front of the loco to get things going.WhistlingLaugh

 

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Posted by gmpullman on Saturday, July 9, 2016 12:26 AM

BATMAN
Here we find a Canadian Pacific 4-4-4 "Jubilee" in her underwear Surprise

Well, since you showed me yours, I'll show you mine!

Here we see an Alco Rotary without her petticoats...

I was fortunate enough to prevail in a recent auction of several American Locomotive Co. Catalogs, all appear to be from the early 1920's.

The Rotary Catalog has a wealth of information in it. Here is the suggested rules of operation... {click to make bigger, then zoom again once you are in Photobucket}

Enjoy—

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Posted by BATMAN on Sunday, June 26, 2016 12:41 PM

Here we find a Canadian Pacific 4-4-4 "Jubilee" in her underwearSurprise.

 

Here she is with her work clothes on.Yes

 

 

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Posted by ACY Tom on Wednesday, June 22, 2016 5:44 PM

I don't know about standard practice in other parts of the world, but the Locomotive Cyclopedia was the standard reference work for North American practice throughout the steam era. My various copies universally call it a sandbox. I have not seen any reference to a sand dome in any of my copies.

I have often heard the term "sand dome" used colloquially, however. 

As for the PRR's use of the term "cabin car", this is roughly equivalent to the use of "van", "waycar", and other terms on various roads. Generically, the US term is "caboose". Individual railroads used their own monikers.

See? Clear as mud.

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Posted by "JaBear" on Friday, June 17, 2016 6:53 AM

gmpullman
in all my years, I have only refered to the locomotive sand storage vessel as the "sandbox". This holds true regardless of the method of propulsion. There is a "steam dome" but I'm not familiar with a sand dome. A mere technicality for sure, but we may as well strive for accurate terminology.

Hmm I must admit that statement caused me to raise my eyebrow Ed.  Of course it’s a sand dome, sandboxes are fitted to steam locomotives on or under some British steam locomotives running boards, and diesels in general and this was borne out by this definition.........
SANDBOXES. In the UK, it was the practice to fit the sandboxes near the running plate, sometimes attached to the wheel splashers.  US practice was to add a sand dome to the top of the boiler, in an attempt to use the boiler heat to keep the sand dry.
............on this site...........
 
Not liking to argue the toss on one piece of evidence, my second reference was this site which also referred to the sand dome.
 
My third piece of evidence is here.....
 
But all of the above did not explain why Ed living in Ohio isn’t familiar with sand dome where as I wouldn’t use the term sand box in the context of steam locomotives.
To try and further clarify the issue my next search only served to muddy the waters. For in my copy of Steel Roads of New Zealand there is a cutaway drawing of a 1939 partially streamlined NZR J class 4-8-2, built by North British Locomotive Works in Scotland that clearly defines the item under discussion as a Sandbox!!! So it would appear that I’ve been using an American term, but if Ed didn’t know it, then was I?Confused
 
 
Then I remembered an article in the December 2014 issue of the New Zealand Railfan, titled New Zealand’s Early American Locomotives: the Design, Art and Architecture of the K, T, and O Class Locomotives.
This locomotives being the 2-4-2 Rogers Locomotive & machine Works K class of 1877, the 2-8-0 Baldwin T class of 1879, and the 2-8-0 Baldwin O class of 1885.
Though the writer is a Kiwi, the list of acknowledgements and references give me no reason to doubt the quality of the research, the point being that the terms sandbox and sand dome are both used to describe the same item to the extent that one drawing that depicts 11 different manufacturers designs, is titled The Sand Box Orders; American Sand Dome Classical Styles 1870-1880.
So I would suggest that the accuracy of the terminology and the use of sandbox or sand dome depends on which “school” you attended.
 
So I’m none the wiser as to which term originated where; it’s definitely not as clear cut as in the case of the term “Caboose” which everyone knows is the only accurate US terminology for “Guards Van”.
Hang on a minute!! What about the PRRs “Cabin Cars??? Whistling
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Posted by gmpullman on Thursday, June 16, 2016 2:47 PM

Well, my hand is up—with the caveat that, in all my years, I have only refered to the locomotive sand storage vessel as the "sandbox". This holds true regardless of the method of propulsion.

There is a "steam dome" but I'm not familiar with a sand dome. A mere technicality for sure, but we may as well strive for accurate terminology. 

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Posted by BATMAN on Thursday, June 16, 2016 2:11 PM

Okay, hands up, those of you that really knew the inside workings of a sand dome. HA! I knew it.Laugh

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Posted by mbinsewi on Sunday, June 12, 2016 10:37 PM

Maybe Bobby, Tankcarsrule, will see this and chime in, with some insight on this car.

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Posted by gmpullman on Sunday, June 12, 2016 10:14 PM

NittanyLion
No idea what this thing is.

But you'll be able to get one soon from Broadway Limited!

http://www.broadway-limited.com/cryogenictankcar.aspx

I have two on order. I used to work with some of the people from Linde, National Cylinder Gas, Air Liquide and Air Products.

Usually they carried liquid nitrogen, sometimes oxygen or argon at a temperature of about -300°F.

You're right, a pretty neat looking car!

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Posted by "JaBear" on Sunday, June 12, 2016 9:58 PM

Aaaaaaah, finally the ringing in my ears has STOPPED!!Indifferent
I had seen that operating ferry clip before Brent, a good idea but as Mike has already pointed out it is a real space eater, and I’m not too sure how long an operator would be prepared to wait around, though that depends on who switches the cars arriving in the boat yards.
And yes Brent I better have something running if you come visiting, I don’t think just having a yarn and several fingers would cut it!!
 
Nittany Lion, I stole you picture to see if I could zoom in to get the reporting number but only ended up with a pixelated mush.
Not that it helps in any way shape or form, from a kit bashing thread on another forum another different modern tank car.
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Posted by NittanyLion on Sunday, June 12, 2016 11:03 AM

No idea what this thing is.  It was so clean that it was too reflective in the bright sun yesterday and washed out all sorts of stuff.  But plenty of rare features on it anyhow.

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Posted by middleman on Sunday, June 12, 2016 12:29 AM

Thanks,Brent. That ferry looks like it adds a lot to operations. What a space-eater,though. Makes me glad I try to model a land-locked,semi-arid clime. I was sorry to read in the comments on youtube that the owner had died recently,but it sounds like his family and crew gave him a fitting send off.

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Posted by BATMAN on Saturday, June 11, 2016 12:34 PM

Mike, really enjoyed that. I went and watched it on the big screen in HD and that was even better. Thanks for posting.

Well here are some people having an OPS session. Included is a working car ferry that takes twenty minutes to make the crossing. Could this be something that is in our Bears future? I would like to see the water done, hopefully, we will down the road.

If you want to watch in HD with a larger pic, click here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqbkq2nCOxM 

 

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Posted by middleman on Friday, June 10, 2016 7:51 AM

Opening day on the Cumbres & Toltec. The scene starting at 2 minutes,15 seconds is a beaut!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ff4woAGSBM

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Posted by BATMAN on Thursday, June 9, 2016 10:17 AM

Had a Pm pour in (second one in a year and a halfLaugh) to make sure I posted something today. So here it is.

Light'em up!

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, June 6, 2016 11:18 AM

Bear, it seems I owe you another two fingers worth as it seems that you directed me to the "Oldtimetrains" site yet again. Of course, this let me spend the afternoon looking at some good stuff instead of moving the 18 yards of bark mulch that magically appeared in the front yard on Saturday.Bow

So what do you like to collect? I think one of these under the layout would sure make for some authentic crossing sounds. Or maybe have it as an early warning system on the train room door for when the wife tells me the bark mulch has arrived.Surprise 

 

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Posted by "JaBear" on Monday, June 6, 2016 5:22 AM

BATMAN
Does anyone make them yet?

Break out the styrene Brent.  I don’t seem to be asking the right question but the real difficulty at the present, is the lack of general information and supporting photos for those cars.
I did come across this totally irrelevant, yet interesting link though.........
 
 
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Posted by BATMAN on Sunday, June 5, 2016 5:16 PM

Check out these cool passenger cars! Does anyone make them yet? Maybe Rapido will take a crack at'em! Whistling

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