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Posted by BATMAN on Friday, August 21, 2015 2:13 PM

I forgot to post this with the above. Track, still in use and abandon is criss-crossed all over the prairie and you see short locals picking up the grain cars as you drive around. If only this had been a hundred years ago and this was a steam engine.

 

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Posted by BATMAN on Friday, August 21, 2015 1:52 PM

Living in the rugged mountainous region of the West coast, is in itself a treat, but as Bear commented above, the vastness of the prairies can be jawdropping to a person that has never seen it before. Even though I have made the drive between Vancouver and my hometown of Winnipeg on many occasions, each time I hit the prairies I am quite taken by its unique beauty. You leave the Rocky mountains and enter the city of Calgary, upon exiting the city to the East there is 1600 KMS of wheat and canola staring at you.

We first headed to Dinosaur Provincial Park for three days which is well worth a visit. Surrrounded by prairie, the landscape is so different, it is like being on another planet. It is continually giving up the bones of of those monsters from the distant past.

We then returned to a place called Spruce Meadows South of Calgary for six days of dog show.Tongue Tied

For my son, daughter and myself, watching paint dry is better than being at a dog show. The things we do for mom. Got the trailer set up among the hundreds and hundreds of other RVs from all over North America. My primary mission of delivering the wife and fleabags to Alberta had been accomplished.

The kids and I were out of there every day on an adventure somewhere. We went up to the Calgary Olympic park and went on the luge run. #1 son had a spectacular wipe out that finished him for the day. Even though he had some minor leakage and felt like his arms were broken, he was all smiles on the day.Thumbs Up Other stops included the Calgary Zoo and a few other places.

The day I was looking forward to the most was, The hunt for the elusive"prairie sentinal". The two most important things on my model railroad are, mountainous terrain and the old wooden grain elevators from the past. As these"prairie sentinels" are disappearing at an alarming rate, I wanted to see some up close and in real life. The kids were game, so off we went.

Mossleigh, Alberta.

If you look at the side of the elevator, it looks like it has a tear in the, some sort of wrap, that had been put on the exterior to help preserve the structure. I wish I had given it a closer inspection while I was there. Anyone know what the wrap might be?

All three elevators were no longer in use and are just there as if they were frozen in time. We did not see a soul anywhere the whole time we were there. I was amazed by all the equipment that is still there, untouched by souvenir hunters.

A few pieces of RR equipment are parked there.

This flat car has a coupler stand and rails on it. Don't know what they would put on it, anyone????

An odd shaped wheat bin would make for something a little different on the layout.

What's this used for? Anyone???

Date on the rails. They would have been bringing the grain by horse drawn wagons when this was layed down.

#1 daughter coming to remove camera from dear old dad. She has spotted some good subject artifacts to take photo's of. I see an essay for school in the works already.

We took lots of photo's at the highest quality of the vast landscape. I am hoping to stitch them together to use as a backdrop.

The middle of nowhere.

A little grilled butterfly anyone?

Vulcan Alberta was the next stop that day. It has made itself a Star Trek meca.

This greets you at the gateway to the town.

All the street signs look like this.

The library.

A computer shop.

So when people visit me and see I have Vulcan on my grain elevator, know it is a real place and had many of the old prairie sentinels at one time.

Next stop was Brant. A pile of ancient old switch stands are piled off the tracks in the wheat field.

1907 is the year on these rails.

 

I am not sure about this thing. It was down the track from the elevator. Apparently there is a video online showing it in operation, but I have been unable to find it.

I put my 13 year old daughter in charge of navigating. When I asked for directions to our next destination she said this highway will take us there, but dad we don't take highways do we. So 23 KMS along the straight as an arrow section road she got us on, I pulled over and made her drive. Didn't hit pavement for another 27KMS. That kid sure had a smile on her face as she cruised through the Canadian prairie. We switched back before we came across a member of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police hooking up a horse trailer to the back of his RCMP pickup truck. Yes even the mounties drive pickups on the prairies. He was going to haul the horses the rest of the way home for the farmer who's truck had broken down.

When we returned home, we went to a rather large barbecue party. Many of the people at the bash had traveled to Alberta for the dog show. Knowing that the kids and I had gone off every day on an adventure, they were asking them what was the best day. I was quite surpised when they said it was the "great prairie sentinel adventure". I think it will be one of those days they remember with delight for the rest of their lives.Big Smile

Surely I am not the only person that had some RR related activities this summer. Lets see those summer vacation pic's guys!

 

 

 

 

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Posted by BATMAN on Saturday, August 15, 2015 1:54 PM

rrinker

 I guess they can get away with that up in Canada, but if they put shovels and brooms just hanging like that around here, they'd be gone before the week was out.

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Not a problem up here in the Great White North Randy. As soon as you pop out of the womb a hockey stick is put in one hand and a snow shovel in the other. Smile, Wink & Grin

Way back in August 2006 was the last time we got to spend time in the Rockies exploring old railway bridges, snowsheds, roadbeds and other remaining infrastructure of the old CPR. Back then I took the precaution of sending my daughter on ahead to check for Grizzly bears along the original CPR roadbed from 1886. She obviously did an amazing job as I returned safely.

2006

Now nine years later after considerable investment into the kids education I thought it prudent to take some precautions as there was a increase in Grizzly bear sightings this year. So we bought a new can of bear spray a new airhorn and new bells. We were ready.

So I sent my son on ahead!.......Weeelllll you just never know.

I had been in touch with Matthew Hicks who many of you know by his amazing rail photo's and he gave me a list of good train watchin spots around Banff. So off we went! Aidan and I had a great day sittin watching trains and talking. In between the trains, we just had to suffer through looking at the best scenery in the world (IMO)

The pics are not the best ( railpictures.ca would not take any of them) but here are a few just to show what the day was like.

If Locomotives were living things, I think these ones would be looking at those mountains ahead thinking "there they are boys, lets getter done"

Next! The prairies.

 

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Posted by rrinker on Friday, August 14, 2015 6:34 PM

 I guess they can get away with that up in Canada, but if they put shovels and brooms just hanging like that around here, they'd be gone before the week was out.

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Posted by BATMAN on Friday, August 14, 2015 1:03 PM

Albert Canyon use to be a CPR pusher station long ago and had a small CP town associated with it. Here is a link to lots of old photo's

http://albert-canyon.blogspot.ca/2012_12_01_archive.html

The town disappeared and up sprang a campground called Canyon Hot Springs.

Here is my and our friends sites as it looks today.

It a great spot to sit at the trailer and watch the trains roll by. Sometimes one right after another and sometimes there are long breaks between, fortunately that doesn't happen too often.

The campsite is full of railfans from all over the world and because I book the best site early so I can have the best view, they all end up with their lawnchairs at my trailer. This year there were an awful lot of Germans and they drank an awful lot of my beer. They were all great guys and we had a good time. One year there was a CP engineer from Calgary camped there and he was building his "N scale" town on his picnic table while watching the action.

Here are some very short video's taken with my phone while sitting in my reclining lawn chair at the trailer. This is where the real grind into the Rockies begins, they're really startin to work hard at this point.

I usually take my Mountain bike with me and ride for miles along the tracks, however due to an injury I am unable to ride until my shoulder surgery at the end of the summer. ( I didn't want to ruin my summer so I pushed it back)

We did walk a few miles in each direction and came across this very active blasting area where CP gets its rip rap and ballast from. Last time we were here, there was old (steam Powered) equipment left over from long ago just rusting away in the weeds. It was all pretty cool. We couldn't get any closer than what the photo shows as we didn't want to put ourselves in a bad position with the blasting going on.

Here is looking down the old wye. The cement building on the right is an old explosives shed.

The steel plates you see on the side are vents.

There is a derail siding here and it is probably a good idea given the long decent from the East.

Here is an old speeder/equipment shed that has obviously been upgraded several times over the years.

You can see where the rails once came out. Now burried in the cement below.

A little super elevation into the grade.

A couple of other shots of trains that came by while we were exploring. Almost always got a wave and/or a toot from the crew.

This is a You-Tube video taken at Canyon Hot Springs. Even though it is no longer a pusher station trains often stop here and ad or remove power as required. I saw a real mixed bag of power at times with some oldies pressed into service.

Canyon Hot Springs is a great place for any train buff. After a hard day of trainwatchin, it's off to the hotpools to unwind.CryingLaugh

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Posted by "JaBear" on Friday, August 14, 2015 1:56 AM

BATMAN
if anyone is interested I will post more

Yes please.

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Posted by BATMAN on Thursday, August 13, 2015 2:44 PM

Well we are making another unplanned pit stop at home after nearly four weeks on the road through the Rockies to Alberta. We have almost 2000 pics in the Nikon, some of them are even railroad related. Once my daughter sees me with the camera she quickly relieves me of it to take over. Having taken many courses and belonging to the school photography club, makes her much more proficient at taking pic's than I ever could be.

I did take these three up near glacier in the Rockies. I noticed that since my last trip through the area, they seem to have shovels,brooms, picks and other assorted tools hanging at switch stands service boxes and elsewhere. For you modern day modelers it is a little detail that can add more realism to the layout.

I was taking pics of these when the Rocky Mountaineer happened by. I did not have enough memory left in the Nikon for an HD video so quickly grabbed my phone. Sorry for the poor quality.

I have a lot of great shots (railroad related) of the trip if anyone is interested I will post more.

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Posted by rrinker on Friday, July 24, 2015 7:10 AM

 Note the comments, and on closer examination you can see it's correct - the train from which the photo was taken is standing on a siding. You can see one of the crew down the track checking the eastbound for hotboxes and dragging equipment as it rolls by. Also you can see the ballast is much thinner under the tracks on which the photo caboose is sitting, compared to that on which the eastbound is rolling.

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Posted by "JaBear" on Friday, July 24, 2015 3:43 AM
While looking for something else I came across this photo in Shorpy.
 
What firstly caught my eye was the vast vastness of the scene and that the photo had been taken from the cupola of the caboose.  On closer examination though the eastbound freight has a wartime emergency caboose, which was discussed in more detail here.....
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Posted by "JaBear" on Tuesday, July 14, 2015 6:16 AM

BATMAN
I like the the monster vacuum. Are you sure you can't find a video of it in action?????Laugh

No I could only find what Randy so quickly came up with.Sigh
 
Off Topic
BATMAN
Have you ever seen one of these up close and personal.
 
No unfortunately.Those Martin Mars are pretty big !! There’s a Shorts Sunderland and a Shorts Solent up at MOTAT that I’ve had seen which I thought were big, but the comparison of  their dimensions, wingspan 112 ft, length 85 ft, height 32 ft, to the Mars 200 ft, 117 ft and 38 ft  tells the tale. The biggest I’ve seen in the air is the Catalina...
...and the biggest I’ve worked on...
...I actually worked on this aircraft when it was based in NZ.
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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, July 13, 2015 11:33 AM

Heck Batman, remind me not to go on holidays with you!!!! Black Eye (Hope things go well in Part 2).

Thanks Bear, I hope part 2 goes better as well. Adding to the things that went wrong to the first part of the trip was the fact that the Western half of Canada is on fire and you cannot escape the smoke no matter where you are. Rest assured we will be alright as 300 Kiwi's have flown up to join the fight and help save the day. Bow

Being a sort of an aviation type of guy. Have you ever seen one of these up close and personal. We have two in our Provincial fire fighting airforce. I have been lucky enough to see them in action on more than one occasion. They are very cool machines.

I like the the monster vacuum. Are you sure you can't find a video of it in action?????Laugh

Canadian Pacific has an extensive track vacuuming program through the Rockies as the carnage of wildlife especially Grizzly bears has been awful. The bears seem oblivious to trains. They sit and eat all the grain that drops out of the hoppers along the way.

There is an article on one of the CP websites about a very, very old Grizzly that lives at the "massive siding" near Banff. He has only lived to his ripe old age because of the easy "grain" pickins on the rail bed. Apparently he pays no attention to the railcrews that walk by and has become somewhat of a mascot of sorts.

The CBC did a very good story on the track vacuuming program about ten years ago, I can't find it in their archives though. The best I could do was this. I wonder if this guy is related to Brothe Elias???Laugh

 

 

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Posted by rrinker on Monday, July 13, 2015 6:53 AM

 Exactly what my first guess was - a giant vacuum cleaner!

http://blog.modernmechanix.com/mags/qf/c/ModernMechanix/2-1930/lrg_rail_vacuum_cleaner.jpg

 

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Posted by "JaBear" on Monday, July 13, 2015 2:39 AM
Gidday, every time I think I’ve found a “Brain teaser” someone dives straight in, gives not only the Railroad, but the reporting number, what it did, what the operating crews’ favourite sandwich was, and who made the HO scale brass version.....Sigh Laugh
 
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Posted by "JaBear" on Sunday, July 12, 2015 12:58 AM
Heck Batman, remind me not to go on holidays with you!!!! Black Eye (Hope things go well in Part 2).
I found the “Steam Demise” thread an interesting discussion
and while looking for something entirely different came across this. Now I had thought that WW2 had bought about not only the completion of the demise of steam, but was also the start of the fight for survival of the railroads themselves from alternative competition. I was wrong, it started earlier.

 

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Posted by BATMAN on Friday, July 10, 2015 7:07 PM

Well, I am suppose to be out in the middle of nowhere enjoying myself and then carrying on to Alberta. Let's just say we had a rough start to the trip.

First of all the last member of our (four RV) travelling group arrived a few days after we did at our secluded spot to inform my wifes sister in law that her mother had passed away. We were over an hour to the closest phone, so they came in to tell her and us. It was too late in the day to head home at that point, so we decided to sleep on our plan of action. A while later (same day) my wifes friend went from feeling great to being in a serious medical condition in two minutes flat. Like I said over an hour to the nearest phone and an hour and a half to the nearest Hospital.

My wife is a Veterinarian and insist she doesn't do people every time I ask her to stitch me up or do something else as far as repairs. We got our friend into the truck and thanks to my wife was in much better shape by the time they got to the Hospital.

Next! Much later in the day, well into the evening in fact. I was wrestling with my daughter to try and ease the tension of the day. Well she must have been watching WWF behind my back as she (quite accidentally) slammed my head into an immovable object. It was her revenge for making her paint all those HO people! Anyway I was opened up from above the hairline to my nose and was leaking quite badly. Good thing my wife carries a very large Doctor bag. I finally got her to stitch me up after twenty years. For insisting she doesn't do people she had to do two in one day. My wife looks just like Meryl Streep to the point people have often asked if she is her. There I was lying in the reclining lawn chair gazing into my beautiful wifes eye's as she went to work.  Now I know how the dogs feel.Laugh

So after a week we had to wave the flag and come home, however we will be leaving in a few days for Alberta along with our friend who has fully recovered from her ordeal.

So British Columbia is full of lakes and in the not so distant past the barge links were extensive. Often the lake levels can get quite high or very low.

I came across this pic of a crew polling an apron into place.Hmm

 

 

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Posted by "JaBear" on Monday, July 6, 2015 4:17 AM
I presume that Batman and family is cruising the great Canadian Wilderness with the Bat-O-Van (over there is it called a caravan or trailer??), hope they’re having a good break.

 

Anyhow I have just been lent the book “Where Rails Meet the Sea” by Michael Krieger, and upon a quick flick came across this photo.

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ConfusedConfused.....Huh?

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ACYTom was right about the photos location, and so without further ado here’s the full caption.
 
The Union forces at City Point, Virginia, renamed the expanded terminal railroad, the City Point and Army Line. It was operated by the U.S. Military Railroads, which had brought both engines and cars by barge from the north. Shown are the City Point enginehouse and three of its 4-4-0 locomotives. The President, built by Eastwick and Harrison, had been taken over from its former owner, the Winchester & Potomac Railroad. The locomotive and its backward-facing tender are pushing a line of cars loaded with fill to enlarge the embankment.”
There is no explanation regarding the tender.

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Posted by gmpullman on Monday, June 29, 2015 9:45 PM

You're right, Randy. The Mole must be for cleaning small areas around switches and other hardware. Note the caption on the photo in your link says the dirt is deposited into buckets, obviously not a large volume operation and I can't imagine those racks that the machine propels itself on are very long therefore I would see this in use for smaller jobs.

The "chute" out the rear almost looks like a Simplex locomotive stoker! You can make out spark plug wires under the conveyor, too, answering how it was powered.

Thanks for finding that link... very interesting!

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Posted by rrinker on Monday, June 29, 2015 9:12 PM

Looks like the ballast comes out the back, only shaped nicely. In front, it seems like the ballast has no shoulder, it just fills in the space between the parallel tracks. Behind the machine, it looks like it is nicely shaped with the drainage ditch in the middle.

 Here's one on the NYC:

http://via.lib.harvard.edu/via/deliver/deepcontent?recordId=olvwork359844

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Posted by gmpullman on Monday, June 29, 2015 2:37 PM

Here's a "What Is It?" photo for everyone to ruminate over...

Erie Railroad Photograph by Charles E. Coe; Collection of Gmpullman

The back of the photo only has the word "mole" lightly written in pencil. It is from a collection of Erie Railroad photographs that I recently purchased.

Now, I am well aware of ballast cleaning equipment and those trains are usually pretty heavily laden with equipment and several hoppers to load all the dirt and cinders that are screened out. This thing obviously runs on the two "racks" that are laid on adjacent ties and I see the small conveyor and the "scooper arm" similar to what is used on mining equipment like the Joy continuous miner.

So, where is the ballast going? How is it powered? There looks like an electric motor all the way aft but I do not see any cabling. There looks like a wooden beam or trough spanning the left hand track which seems to tie into the "tool-box" looking thing with the hinged lid.

My only assumption for the use of this machine is to clear away ballast prior to replacing ties to make it easier to pull the old ties out from the end (modern methods are to chop the tie in thirds) and shove the new tie in.

Anyone have any more information or ideas?

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Posted by BATMAN on Friday, June 26, 2015 9:16 PM

Thanks for the video Bear, that is a very cool model. Seems to be few models of the weird and wonderful out there.Laugh

Well, the kids have finished with Provincial exams for another year (both made the honour roll) so it is time to hit the road. I put new tires, shocks, exhaust and new bushings on the stablizer bars on the truck and new tires on the trailer. The wife was a little worried last week with all the truck parts spread all over the driveway. So was I! Thank goodness for You-Tube "how to" Videos. She said are we going to be ready ten days from now? I said "Aye Captain, she'll launch on time". Alway's good for a roll of her eye's.Laugh

This is what we look like, so drop by for a drink if you see us.

You don't have to go very far in Canada before you are completely off the grid. No cell phone service and no internet. The are still times when all is right with the universe.Thumbs Up

I remember a recent thread by smkid51 asking about maintenance of our loco's. I don't think this is what he had in mind, however, someday he may want to change scale's.Smile, Wink & Grin

See you in September if all goes well.

 

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Posted by "JaBear" on Friday, June 26, 2015 4:29 AM
It was interesting to see that he used the makers’ publicity photo of the less than stellar New Zealand Railways G class Garratt.
I presume you’ve seen this Randy?...
 
 

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Posted by rrinker on Tuesday, June 23, 2015 5:05 PM

 MTH made an O model of the Erie L1. First time I saw one, I didn't believe it was real.

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, June 22, 2015 10:30 PM

Ha! Just when you thought you had seen the last of this thread. Things just keep showing up in the mailbox.Laugh

There are some interesting examples of, shall we say imaginative engineering in the following. There are three parts, so if you are so intrigued, wait for the next part to begin.

I am curious to see if anyone has a model of any of the following rarities on their layouts. If you do, please share a photo of it with us.

The journey we are about to embark on, even has a train that requires a sea Captain and lifeboat on it.Hmm

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Posted by "JaBear" on Saturday, June 13, 2015 1:14 AM
Because I was painting today, Indifferent, I kept thinking about how one of these Evans Cars could be scratched in HO.  While plans would be useful, I don’t see the lack of them as unfortunate, because as Tom rightly points out there appear to be differences in the car bodies. Though it would be small, I think to someone like Darth or hon3critterDave, building Erie 300 / 800 would be a relative doddle, because the skirts hide the wheels.
The challenge would be Evans Auto Railer Bus in the Chevy video, or heaven forbid the large truck! Then I had a brilliant idea, Idea (the Bear quite often has brilliant ideas especially if someone else is expected to carry them out), could the Faller Car System be incorporated? I see now that there is now a digitalised system. Just imagine the bus comes round the track, raises its track wheels, drives off down the road then rejoins the track, lowers the rail wheels and is off again. Simple!!! (But then, so is the BearSigh).
Cheers, the Bear.Smile
NO doubt someone will come up with a video showing that it has already been done.

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Posted by BATMAN on Thursday, June 11, 2015 3:17 PM

Digging through the links Randy provided, two pic's caught my eye.

"The Bomb Train" Would like to find out more about this.

And this!..... Really?????

A video link posted by DigitalGriffin reminded me of this. For those that may have missed it the first time.

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Posted by rrinker on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 7:31 AM

 Here's some more information on the Evans Auto-Railer

http://www.oocities.org/trackworker.geo/evanstext1.htm]

And more. Check out that funky double-ended thing about halfway down.

http://hankstruckforum.com/htforum/index.php?topic=57125.0

And coincidentaly, next hit down is a shot of a similar double ended 'thing'

https://www.flickr.com/photos/mrscharroo/8160604664

 

          --Randy


Modeling the Reading Railroad in the 1950's

 

Visit my web site at www.readingeastpenn.com for construction updates, DCC Info, and more.

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Posted by NP2626 on Tuesday, June 9, 2015 10:24 AM

BATMAN

 

 
 
I was quite surprised to see in your link to CP ships, that the CP and the Union Steamship Company of New Zealand, jointly owned the MV Aorangi.

 

I saw that also. Now I want to know how that came about. But alas, the Honeydo list is calling.

Keep those photo's coming Ed. I am quickly finding out that You-Tube isn't the only place to find obscure video's.Movie We may actually find some moving pic's of the Erie #300.

On the last page Mark (NP2626) was off to see "The Black Hills Central" I am glad to see he made it and got to ride behind the Mallet.

 

 

Brent, I linked to this video in my thread on the BHC, thanks for the link!

NP 2626 "Northern Pacific, really terrific"

Northern Pacific Railway Historical Association:  http://www.nprha.org/

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Posted by ACY Tom on Tuesday, June 9, 2015 9:44 AM

I wonder whether dimensions or scale drawings exist, or where they might be found.  If not, I guess the photos might provide useful information for a modeling project.  Unfortunately, it appears that the carbodies differed from one unit to another.  If somebody produced a body casting, Darth could certainly turn it into a gem!

Tom 

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Posted by "JaBear" on Tuesday, June 9, 2015 5:43 AM

Some of this Ed has already referred to, but good ole Shorpy.....

http://www.shorpy.com/node/17521

Cheers, the Bear.Smile

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Posted by ACY Tom on Monday, June 8, 2015 8:57 PM

Wonder whether any real Evans Roadrailers still exist.  Doubtful, I guess.

Tom

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