I don't know about standard practice in other parts of the world, but the Locomotive Cyclopedia was the standard reference work for North American practice throughout the steam era. My various copies universally call it a sandbox. I have not seen any reference to a sand dome in any of my copies.
I have often heard the term "sand dome" used colloquially, however.
As for the PRR's use of the term "cabin car", this is roughly equivalent to the use of "van", "waycar", and other terms on various roads. Generically, the US term is "caboose". Individual railroads used their own monikers.
See? Clear as mud.
Tom
Here we find a Canadian Pacific 4-4-4 "Jubilee" in her underwear.
Here she is with her work clothes on.
Brent
"All of the world's problems are the result of the difference between how we think and how the world works."
BATMANHere we find a Canadian Pacific 4-4-4 "Jubilee" in her underwear
Well, since you showed me yours, I'll show you mine!
Here we see an Alco Rotary without her petticoats...
I was fortunate enough to prevail in a recent auction of several American Locomotive Co. Catalogs, all appear to be from the early 1920's.
The Rotary Catalog has a wealth of information in it. Here is the suggested rules of operation... {click to make bigger, then zoom again once you are in Photobucket}
Enjoy—
Regards, Ed
That's very cool Ed. I like the common sense, plain speak of the instruction manual, how I long for those days.
I wonder what the price of one of those was back in the day. Someone posted a price list for various (old time) RR equipment a while back. I wonder if this was on the list.
Here is an old steamer having a tough start, however using true South African ingenuity they add a propeller to the front of the loco to get things going.
This looks light it would be a good trip to take, however with a name such as "Paekakariki" how are we ever to find the place? Why can't this country have normal sounding names for their towns like "Quispamsis" or "Skookumchuk" or "Punkeydoodles Corners". I don't know, I just don't know.
Anywho, here is the morning routine.
BATMANWhy can't this country have normal sounding names
"One difference between pessimists and optimists is that while pessimists are more often right, optimists have far more fun."
Heck you want boring normal, for a while we had the North, Middle, and South Islands. (Still got the North and South Islands).
Wot happened to the middle one, did it sink?
Great video Bear, those guys riding on and behind were having just too much fun.
In the previous video, I posted they put a ring on a hose in the smoke stack. Can someone educate me on what that is all about?
Well, I haven't gotten around to making all my Loco's dirty and grimy yet, so it is nice to see a prototype following my lead with some clean power. I wonder what they look like now. (a year later)
Eight little piggies engines went to market.
BATMANWot happened to the middle one, did it sink
BATMANIn the previous video, I posted they put a ring on a hose in the smoke stack. Can someone educate me on what that is all about?
I don't think the pic's in this video are just from America as the title states. However, for those of us that enjoy exploring ghostly haunts from the past, there are some cool photo's here.
Has anyone been to any of the places in the video, either in its present state or when it was still in operation?
I have been to the East Broad Top's "stranded" hopper cars at Mount Union, Pennsylvania several times.
http://www.railpictures.net/photo/502169/
http://www.railpictures.net/photo/512773/
The video seems to show these at 3:07. Some of those other scenes look like they have been digitally rendered using Photoshop Lightroom or similar software. The PRR M1a at the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania in the video at 3:29 has been "enhanced" using these techniques.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRR_M1#/media/File:Pennsylvania_Railroad_M1b_6755.jpg
I would venture that some of those scenes are not of abandoned rail lines but enhanced to look like it. The tunnel at 7:39 sure looks like it gets regular use (Pandrol clips on the ties).
I wonder if some of those photos are from the Chernobyl "Zone Of Alienation"? I'd say about half of the photos are from former Russian sites.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Chernobyl+Exclusion+Zone+railways&biw=1344&bih=770&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjHhYqCvZTOAhUDMSYKHUGaBCIQ_AUICCgD
Still, an interesting video. Thanks for posting it,
Ed
"Abandoned" seems to be appropriate in some cases, but certainly not all. Several views show items that are owned by RR museums and planned for future restoration, although they aren't on the near-term schedule. The East Broad Top is most certainly not abandoned, although it is dormant. If you don't believe me, ask Kovalchik's lawyers. At least one view seems to show the remains of track that has been washed out. Without any more information, we can't necessarily conclude that the track is not going to be restored. I didn't watch the whole thing: Too depressing.
It's clearly a mish mash of stuff from the internet. I suppose if you stood where each picture was taken you would know what it was. Did you catch the crossings of HO track?
Henry
COB Potomac & Northern
Shenandoah Valley
Hello???
You still here, BATMAN?
How about revitalizing this old thread or starting a new one? This bunch got lazy in your absence
How about a neat shot, taken by my dad's brother-in-law, Stanley Mackenzie, to get the ball rolling again.
Probably photographed at Warren, N.H. where Stanley was station agent. I'm not up on my radiator spotter's guide, is that a '32 Ford hiding under there?
Bear and Ed:
I'm guessing by the angle of the discs that they are designed to pull the ballast back up against the ends of the ties. I suspect that when they were deployed they went down on an angle equal to the desired slope of the ballast.
Dave
I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!
Hi, fellows
The only information I have on that contraption is what you see written in the margins. I imagine that machine would only be able to work ballast that has already been loosened due to traction/wheel slippage? So as Dave mentions maybe it was used to bring the ballast back up to profile after a tie replacement project was completed.
I have this Erie Railroad photo of an apparatus for removing the ballast prior to tie work. Note that it has to be driven by the rack anchored to the ties.
Labor savings was the rule of the day back then as much as it is today. I wonder what these hardy men would think of the laser-guided, air-conditioned, sound abated cabs of the Jackson-Pandrol machines in use today?
http://www.harscorail.com/equipment.html
Always something interesting, aye?
I'd guess that the info writ on the photo is a mis-spellin', and it's actually meant to be the "disc-o crew". Yew'll note that there's an early model chain-driven disc player behind the gent sittin' on the outrigger. (He don't look all that heavy, but take a looky at all them other guys on t'other side, tryin' t' counterbalance his weight.) Besides all that, the real bizness of that there rig is 'neath the seated gent...looks like a big scooper o' some sort. I'm purty sure that there thing is meant to git alla that stray ballast offen the ties, before the next machine comes along to spread yer mixture o' de-looted white glue, fer to make yer ballast stay put.
Wayne
Wow, Ed! What page did you find this on. It looks like it has had quite a few views since last I checked in. I have been saving up a couple of pic's I collected since last summer, however, Photobucket is just not behaving. It made most of my stored pic's vanish. While I still have them on my computer, it won't let me transfer them over.
I had another account for hockey, it had hundreds of pic's from over the years of all the kids on the teams and from when they went to tournaments and special events like an afternoon with the Vancouver Canucks. POOF! All gone except for a few. Some of the parents have asked if I still have those ones. I probably have most, but that is going to be work to restore them if PB ever works for me again.
I think it is a good idea to carry on as new stuff pops up on the web on a regular basis. Time to do battle with Photochuckit.
For today, a video for Dave. At 8 minutes we see the McKeen. I want to know if Dave has all those window drain stanchions installed on his fine masterpiece.
We might have to start "Waldorf And Statlers Photo Of The Day PartDeux"
Hot off the press.
I acquired this railroad in 1965 playing Monopoly. Thought I'd show you a video.
Check out the bridge into the building at 2:05 That would never happen in real life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGK7_H3UqFA
Interesting I guess that it's all in one place but most of those stills come from various books, and the movies are from Arch and Bruce Kantner or one of the other well-known people who did 16mm movies of various points on the Reading. I have most of the books those pictures come from.
--Randy
Modeling the Reading Railroad in the 1950's
Visit my web site at www.readingeastpenn.com for construction updates, DCC Info, and more.
Check out the old pickups parked on the side of the road. They probably belong to the guys filming. I wonder if they are model railroaders?
Better not show this to the wife, she'll make take down the layout.
Reviving this one yet again - check out this! GE steam turbine electric loco built for the UP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqLayk9Vw4E
Some of those trial runs are shown on the New York central near Erie, Pa. One of the locomotives was run into Grand Central Terminal for a public display.
When UP had returned them back to GE the New York Central continued to test them through 1941. The Great Northern had them for a while, too.
The turbines also drove an auxiliary generator providing three-phase 220V. head end power for the passenger cars. An idea well before its time. They also had dynamic brakes.
Interesting times, then!
Okay Dave, time to get going on the trailer.
about ten mail/baggage Klingons were made.
That Klingon trailer sure looks like it could have been the progenitor for the 1940s Airstream Automobile trailer
https://www.airstream.com/history/
http://theoldmotor.com/?p=166339
Just be glad you don't have to press "2" for English.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ_ALEdDUB8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hqFS1GZL4s
http://s73.photobucket.com/user/steemtrayn/media/MovingcoalontheDCM.mp4.html?sort=3&o=27
That sure is one of the wildest "Doodlebugs" I've ever seen, Steemtrain!
They say credit goes to Mr. Cyrus Osborn of EMD for having the concept of the "Dome Car" ...
http://streamlinermemories.info/?p=934
But that second photo [in your link] of the Pickwick Observation Buffet coach sure looks like it could be the inspiration of the popular dome car, for sure.
Thanks for posting that link! Can you imagine trying to negotiate that beast on a winding, hilly road?!
gmpullmanThat sure is one of the wildest "Doodlebugs" I've ever seen, Steemtrain!
gmpullmanThey say credit goes to Mr. Cyrus Osborn of EMD for having the concept of the "Dome Car" ... http://streamlinermemories.info/?p=934
How to confuse a Bear, actually it’s easy! Ed, I see that site you linked to referred to a Burlington “birdcage” car.
A birdcage car— now, to me, that congers up a vision of those ancient victorian lifts, elevators to those of us Stateside, with ornate, scrolling metal-work.
I have the book by John H. White, Jr. which is mentioned. It pretty much follows the text of the website in that "no records or description of this car exists".
Generally, it seems that this design is accepted as the first "true" dome car:
September, 1902 Railway Master Mechanic Magazine
http://www.trainweb.org/oldtimetrains/photos/cpr_rolling/86_observ.jpg
and it seems that at least four of this design were built. I visited the "Silver Dome" as it now resides in the Mad River and NKP Museum in Orrville, Ohio.
Fun Stuff!