Waldorf and Statlers Photo Of The Day!

[Jim K]

Ed, Thank you for posting the Erie Railbus picture. I have been trying to find any pictures of the Erie #300 and have several. I am in the process of rebuilding the actual railbus in Stewartstown PA. We purchased the railbus in rather sad condition 2 years ago. It will take some time and allot of effort to rebuild it but I am fortunate to have obtained the original drawings for the bus that were used to build it. I would be interested in purchasing any pictures you have of the railbus. Thank you, Jim Kuhlman

 

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[gmpullman]

JIM

I'll gladly send you a copy. I believe I only have the one view.

Did you know that you can download imsges right from Photobucket in their original resolution?

Just click the image and at the Photobucket site look for the download icon.

Here's another ERIE blast from the past:

Erie President Paul W. Johnston on board Erie business car #1 in Cleveland Union Terminal, Date unknown.

Regards, Ed

[steemtrayn]

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[steemtrayn]

[steemtrayn]

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I presume that Batman and family is cruising the great Canadian Wilderness with the Bat-O-Van (over there is it called a caravan or trailer??), hope they’re having a good break.

 

Anyhow I have just been lent the book “Where Rails Meet the Sea” by Michael Krieger, and upon a quick flick came across this photo.

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ACYTom was right about the photos location, and so without further ado here’s the full caption.

 

“The Union forces at City Point, Virginia, renamed the expanded terminal railroad, the City Point and Army Line. It was operated by the U.S. Military Railroads, which had brought both engines and cars by barge from the north. Shown are the City Point enginehouse and three of its 4-4-0 locomotives. The President, built by Eastwick and Harrison, had been taken over from its former owner, the Winchester & Potomac Railroad. The locomotive and its backward-facing tender are pushing a line of cars loaded with fill to enlarge the embankment.”

There is no explanation regarding the tender.

Cheers, the Bear.

 

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I'm guessing that the tender consists of two water tanks (one on each side) and the woodpile runs the length of the tender. The engine looks like something that was built 25 years before the picture was taken, and things were done very differently back then.

["JaBear"]

steemtrayn

 

 

So much for locomotives never going on to car floats. I presume this is New York but anymore info on this please Dave?

Cheers, the Bear.

[steemtrayn]

This pic and more info here:

http://members.trainweb.com/bedt/bedt/BEDTRosters.html

I remember seeing this while driving a truck on the highway in the background.

[gmpullman]

I have an insatiable thirst for photos and information concerning the MESTA Machine Works in Homestead, Pennsylvania and while searching for additional resources recently I came across a collection of 165 photographs that may be of interest to the industrial archaeologists here...

http://digital.library.pitt.edu/images/pittsburgh/mesta.html

I'd sure like to be able to see these plates in much higher resolution but they are certainly clear enough to gather some useable insight.

There are some interesting views of the idyllic Pennsylvania Railroad station and some great pictures of interesting flat car loads!

The Pennsylvania Railroad collection is yet another interesting group of photos!

http://digital.library.pitt.edu/images/pittsburgh/pennrailroad.html

Enjoy, Ed

["JaBear"]

steemtrayn

This pic and more info here: http://members.trainweb.com/bedt/bedt/BEDTRosters.html

Thanks Dave, in some ways I wish I hadn’t asked, I spent far too much time browsing but it was a good excuse for a second coffee.

Cheers, the Bear.

["JaBear"]

“It’s all very well Full Speed ahead and damn the torpedoes, but I just hope the switches have been correctly set.”

 

 

Boston floods, 1915, photos by Leslie Jones.

Cheers, the Bear.

[steemtrayn]

Try THAT with a diesel-electric.

["JaBear"]

So you don’t have enough room for a decent radius “Y”.

 

Cheers, the Bear.

[gmpullman]

The head brakeman gets a real workout dancing around that setup to throw all the switches! Come to think of it, maybe they're all spring switches and no one has to hit the ballast?

Neat Stuff! Ed

[SouthPenn]

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I presume that Batman and family is cruising the great Canadian Wilderness with the Bat-O-Van (over there is it called a caravan or trailer??), hope they’re having a good break.

 

Anyhow I have just been lent the book “Where Rails Meet the Sea” by Michael Krieger, and upon a quick flick came across this photo.

[quote user="BATMAN]

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ACYTom was right about the photos location, and so without further ado here’s the full caption.

 

“The Union forces at City Point, Virginia, renamed the expanded terminal railroad, the City Point and Army Line. It was operated by the U.S. Military Railroads, which had brought both engines and cars by barge from the north. Shown are the City Point enginehouse and three of its 4-4-0 locomotives. The President, built by Eastwick and Harrison, had been taken over from its former owner, the Winchester & Potomac Railroad. The locomotive and its backward-facing tender are pushing a line of cars loaded with fill to enlarge the embankment.”

There is no explanation regarding the tender.

Cheers, the Bear.

 

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I'm guessing that the tender consists of two water tanks (one on each side) and the woodpile runs the length of the tender. The engine looks like something that was built 25 years before the picture was taken, and things were done very differently back then.

 

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I have seen another picture of what I believe is that same engine and cars being loaded with dirt. There are maybe 8 men taking dirt from an embankment and throwing it on the flat cars. Maybe it is in the same book? 

[BATMAN]

The hyperloop. It's well on its way to becoming a reality. My personal view is that for passenger travel it will be short lived, however for movement of goods it could spell the end of container trains. Imagine ordering those LED's from China and having them the next day!  Speed of delivery for all us internet shoppers is a major competitive factor.

If you want to help your kid excel at the physics/science fair, build this with him.

Maybe animate something on the layout with it.

[BATMAN]

Well, this could have made for a bad day for a train crew. Timing is everything!

[BATMAN]

Check out these cool passenger cars! Does anyone make them yet? Maybe Rapido will take a crack at'em! 

["JaBear"]

BATMAN

Does anyone make them yet?

Break out the styrene Brent.  I don’t seem to be asking the right question but the real difficulty at the present, is the lack of general information and supporting photos for those cars.

I did come across this totally irrelevant, yet interesting link though.........

 

http://www.trainweb.org/oldtimetrains/photos/cnr_electric/St.CTunnel.htm

 

Cheers, the Bear.

[BATMAN]

Bear, it seems I owe you another two fingers worth as it seems that you directed me to the "Oldtimetrains" site yet again. Of course, this let me spend the afternoon looking at some good stuff instead of moving the 18 yards of bark mulch that magically appeared in the front yard on Saturday.

So what do you like to collect? I think one of these under the layout would sure make for some authentic crossing sounds. Or maybe have it as an early warning system on the train room door for when the wife tells me the bark mulch has arrived. 

 

[BATMAN]

Had a Pm pour in (second one in a year and a half) to make sure I posted something today. So here it is.

Light'em up!

[middleman]

Opening day on the Cumbres & Toltec. The scene starting at 2 minutes,15 seconds is a beaut!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ff4woAGSBM

Mike

[BATMAN]

Mike, really enjoyed that. I went and watched it on the big screen in HD and that was even better. Thanks for posting.

Well here are some people having an OPS session. Included is a working car ferry that takes twenty minutes to make the crossing. Could this be something that is in our Bears future? I would like to see the water done, hopefully, we will down the road.

If you want to watch in HD with a larger pic, click here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqbkq2nCOxM 

 

[middleman]

Thanks,Brent. That ferry looks like it adds a lot to operations. What a space-eater,though. Makes me glad I try to model a land-locked,semi-arid clime. I was sorry to read in the comments on youtube that the owner had died recently,but it sounds like his family and crew gave him a fitting send off.

Mike

[NittanyLion]

No idea what this thing is.  It was so clean that it was too reflective in the bright sun yesterday and washed out all sorts of stuff.  But plenty of rare features on it anyhow.

["JaBear"]

Aaaaaaah, finally the ringing in my ears has STOPPED!!

I had seen that operating ferry clip before Brent, a good idea but as Mike has already pointed out it is a real space eater, and I’m not too sure how long an operator would be prepared to wait around, though that depends on who switches the cars arriving in the boat yards.

And yes Brent I better have something running if you come visiting, I don’t think just having a yarn and several fingers would cut it!!

 

Nittany Lion, I stole you picture to see if I could zoom in to get the reporting number but only ended up with a pixelated mush.

Not that it helps in any way shape or form, from a kit bashing thread on another forum another different modern tank car.

http://www.gatx.com/wps/wcm/connect/GATX/GATX_SITE/Home/Safety/Training/

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/rspicture.aspx?id=29732

Cheers, the Bear

[gmpullman]

NittanyLion

No idea what this thing is.

But you'll be able to get one soon from Broadway Limited!

http://www.broadway-limited.com/cryogenictankcar.aspx

I have two on order. I used to work with some of the people from Linde, National Cylinder Gas, Air Liquide and Air Products.

Usually they carried liquid nitrogen, sometimes oxygen or argon at a temperature of about -300°F.

You're right, a pretty neat looking car!

Regards, Ed

[mbinsewi]

Maybe Bobby, Tankcarsrule, will see this and chime in, with some insight on this car.

Mike.

[BATMAN]

Okay, hands up, those of you that really knew the inside workings of a sand dome. HA! I knew it.

[gmpullman]

Well, my hand is up—with the caveat that, in all my years, I have only refered to the locomotive sand storage vessel as the "sandbox". This holds true regardless of the method of propulsion.

There is a "steam dome" but I'm not familiar with a sand dome. A mere technicality for sure, but we may as well strive for accurate terminology. 

Regards, Ed

["JaBear"]

gmpullman

in all my years, I have only refered to the locomotive sand storage vessel as the "sandbox". This holds true regardless of the method of propulsion. There is a "steam dome" but I'm not familiar with a sand dome. A mere technicality for sure, but we may as well strive for accurate terminology.

I must admit that statement caused me to raise my eyebrow Ed.  Of course it’s a sand dome, sandboxes are fitted to steam locomotives on or under some British steam locomotives running boards, and diesels in general and this was borne out by this definition.........

SANDBOXES. In the UK, it was the practice to fit the sandboxes near the running plate, sometimes attached to the wheel splashers.  US practice was to add a sand dome to the top of the boiler, in an attempt to use the boiler heat to keep the sand dry.

............on this site...........

http://www.railway-technical.com/st-glos.shtml#S

 

Not liking to argue the toss on one piece of evidence, my second reference was this site which also referred to the sand dome.

http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/data/desertdrover/2011620102858_Steam%20Loco%20Workings.jpg

 

My third piece of evidence is here.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_locomotive_components

 

But all of the above did not explain why Ed living in Ohio isn’t familiar with sand dome where as I wouldn’t use the term sand box in the context of steam locomotives.

To try and further clarify the issue my next search only served to muddy the waters. For in my copy of Steel Roads of New Zealand there is a cutaway drawing of a 1939 partially streamlined NZR J class 4-8-2, built by North British Locomotive Works in Scotland that clearly defines the item under discussion as a Sandbox!!! So it would appear that I’ve been using an American term, but if Ed didn’t know it, then was I?

 

http://nzrailwaysrollingstocklists.weebly.com/j-1939-4-8-2.html

 

Then I remembered an article in the December 2014 issue of the New Zealand Railfan, titled New Zealand’s Early American Locomotives: the Design, Art and Architecture of the K, T, and O Class Locomotives.

This locomotives being the 2-4-2 Rogers Locomotive & machine Works K class of 1877, the 2-8-0 Baldwin T class of 1879, and the 2-8-0 Baldwin O class of 1885.

Though the writer is a Kiwi, the list of acknowledgements and references give me no reason to doubt the quality of the research, the point being that the terms sandbox and sand dome are both used to describe the same item to the extent that one drawing that depicts 11 different manufacturers designs, is titled The Sand Box Orders; American Sand Dome Classical Styles 1870-1880.

So I would suggest that the accuracy of the terminology and the use of sandbox or sand dome depends on which “school” you attended.

 

So I’m none the wiser as to which term originated where; it’s definitely not as clear cut as in the case of the term “Caboose” which everyone knows is the only accurate US terminology for “Guards Van”.

Hang on a minute!! What about the PRRs “Cabin Cars???

Cheers, the Bear.