Ogden & Cache Valley RR - Layout Construction

[superbe]

Lion,

Thanks for the heads up, but I'm betting it will look the same 6 months from now.

Bob

 

[BroadwayLion]

superbe

Based on the cleanliness of your garage (clean enough to eat off the floor) I'm sure your work bench and train room will be the same.

 

Is brand new building just finished and built for the railroad.

ROAR

[superbe]

Based on the cleanliness of your garage (clean enough to eat off the floor) I'm sure your work bench and train room will be the same.

Thank goodness my wife won't see them.

Bob

 

[Onewolf]

There are 12 duplex outlets in the train room split into two 20AMP circuits. Two of the outlets are controlled by a wall switch.  That's enough outlets for my needs.

[richhotrain]

BroadwayLion

LION is very surprised that you could build such a room without electrical outlets every 6 - 10 feet as per requirement of the building code. Maybe Floridia has a different code.

Methinks LION needs glasses.  Me sees wall outlets every 6 feet or so on the finished walls.

Rich

[BroadwayLion]

LION is very surprised that you could build such a room without electrical outlets every 6 - 10 feet as per requirement of the building code. Maybe Floridia has a different code.

LION is enamoured of outlets. Classroom of LION built just after WWII had an outlet at each end. Just that and no more. But LIONS need lots outlets. Him has them all over the place now, and every 6 to 8 feet along the fascia of the railroad. Gotta be able to plug in power tools without draping extension cords across the floors. As an added advantage, the conduits between the outlets were mounted very securely so that LION could use them to hoist himself up when him bend down to the floor.

ROAR

[Onewolf]

Lowes delivered the initial order of lumber for the benchwork yesterday. 

Step 1 was to build a storage rack for the lumber and then step 2 was to move all the lumber from the driveway into the garage.

I plan to start construction of the benchwork (center platform) today.

[ouibejamn]

BobL609

The carpet tiles remind me of flying over Iowa and Nebraska while I was in the Air Force. 

I love it! Great comment. Seriously the flooring looks great, nothing boring there.

 

[BobL609]

The carpet tiles remind me of flying over Iowa and Nebraska while I was in the Air Force.  

[Onewolf]

John Busby

Hi onewolf

The floor looks like it should be on the wall as modern art then be sold for millions to fund the dream layout.

I hope people will want look at your layout rather than try and find the artistic meaning in the floor its over the top I like it.

regards John

I think the "visual impact" of the carpet tiles will be reduced considerably once the benchwork is built such that you don't see just a wide expanse of random carpet tiles.  I will also be 'optimizing' to distribution of the carpet tile as time permits.  Optimizing the distribution really helped in the model workshop.

[John Busby]

Hi onewolf

The floor looks like it should be on the wall as modern art then be sold for millions to fund the dream layout.

I hope people will want look at your layout rather than try and find the artistic meaning in the floor its over the top I like it.

regards John

[Onewolf]

MisterBeasley

The carpet squares would drive me crazy, but to each his own.

Are you going to paint a background on the walls?  Or will you be putting up a solid backdrop first?

My options for the floor given my budget constraint were either bare concrete or random carpet tiles.  The carpet tiles are much more comfortable for walking/standing than bare concrete. :)

I plan to install solid backdrops as I build the benchwork and center platform.

[Onewolf]

My wife and I installed cheap kitchen wall cabinets in the model workshop. I still need to install a spacer next to the left corner cabinet and align the doors.

 

[MisterBeasley]

The carpet squares would drive me crazy, but to each his own.

Are you going to paint a background on the walls?  Or will you be putting up a solid backdrop first?

[NevinW]

It is really fun to see a dedicated train room come into existence. Looks great. I want to see how the railroad looks going in too.

[Onewolf]

It's been a while since provided an update so here goes. The GC is done with his tasks and now it's time to get started with my DIY tasks. These tasks include:

• Installing an epoxy floor in the garage/woodshop
• Sealing the concrete floors in the train room and model workshop
• Laying carpet tile in the train room and model workshop
• Installing blinds in the 4 windows
• Running low voltage cables from the house to the model workshop (CAT6, RG6 (Cable TV), telephone)
• Building workstation tables for the model workshop
• Refinishing/repurposing bookcases for the model workshop
• Installing tile floor in bathroom

The train room and model workshop floors were completely covered in paint overspray and drywall schmutz so first I used a rental Home Depot floor maintainer to grind as much of the paint off as I could.



After grinding I swept twice, vacuumed twice, and mopped twice to clean the residual dust. And then I applied Truelock B4 concrete sealer/densifier. This is the first quadrant I applied sealer to. This sealer does not look dark/wet when it dries like some sealers do. It soaks in to the concrete and helps prevent staining and dust creation as well as "densifies" the surfac e of the concrete.



After all four quadrants of the train room had the first of two coats of sealer applied. You can see the first quadrant has already almost completely dried.



I purchased 1100 sq ft of "mixed/random" carpet tiles (275 tiles) from Caldwell Carpet in Georgia for $.49/sq ft + shipping for the train room and model workshop. It was the least expensive flooring I could find and it should work great for this application (cheap and easy to 'fix' accidents'). Here's a photo of a 'test' of the first 35 carpet tiles off the pallet to get a feeling for what 'random' carpet tiles might look like:

According to "the boss" the highest priority task was to get my reloading station out of the office in the house so I finished the carpet tiles in here first. I also built a couple 30"x80" work tables for the model workshop using solid core door slabs and adjustable height workstation legs purchased from Global Industries.I plan to install 30" tall kitchen wall cabinets along the entire 14ft left wall and 18" tall cabinets above the reloading station.





My wife laid most of the carpet tiles in the train room. I snapped the working lines and did all the carpet cutting. I still need to finish the two edges on the far left and right of this photo. The train room is currently the lowest priority room to get finished.





The 'hole' in the center of the room is where the "room within a room" for the mushroom layout design will be built. It will have 2x4 stud walls and the backdrop for the upper level of the layout will drop from the ceiling creating a "room within a room".

 

[Onewolf]

subman

I didn`t notice any electrical floor outlets in the train room, or are you planning on getting 110V power to the middle of the layout some other way. Il`l bet you had some fun getting the plans by the HOA. What is Seminole county assessing the building at? Nice job!

I don't foresee needing 110V in the center platform once the benchwork, trackwork and electrical are complete and I'll just run an extension cord during construction if required.  if required I can run 110v from the 'right' wall into the center platform.

My wife and I spent over three years preparing the HOA board for our proposed detached garage so it was pretty much a done deal when we submitted the official request.

I am also interested to see how the county is going to feel $$$ about this addition to 'their' property tax base.  :)  One thing I have already noticed and need to deal with is that it shows up on the property appraiser's office website as a $187,000 addition in 2014 but it's only costing us about 2/3 of that.

[subman]

I didn`t notice any electrical floor outlets in the train room, or are you planning on getting 110V power to the middle of the layout some other way. Il`l bet you had some fun getting the plans by the HOA. What is Seminole county assessing the building at? Nice job!

[Onewolf]

Here's a photo of the exterior from this morning since I haven't posted any photos of the exterior garage/house since they've been painted.

[MisterBeasley]

Onewolf

Yes, I think 1.21GW would be sufficient to power a decent sized Flux Capacitor!

"Set the Wayback Machine for the late Transition Era, Sherman!"

I view my layout as a time machine, actually, because it takes me back to my youth like nothing else can do.

I laughed at the line about the gigawatts of lighting.  Nice bright flourescents and lots of them in a white room with white ceilings and floors?  Yeah, bring your sunglasses.

[Onewolf]

tedtedderson

 Yeah, that's enough to power a time machine!  Great Scott! 

T e d

 

 

Yes, I think 1.21GW would be sufficient to power a decent sized Flux Capacitor!

[tedtedderson]

middleman

 Amazing setup,'can't wait to see the layout build!

I'm sure it's a typo,but 1.21GW of lighting is 1.21 billion watts...pretty close to several estimates of the load of the entire Las Vegas "Strip".  Your 200 amp/240 volt service will supply a continuous max. of 48 KW -48,000 watts(assuming a pure "resistance" load). 

 

Yeah, that's enough to power a time machine!  Great Scott! 

T e d

[middleman]

Amazing setup,'can't wait to see the layout build!

I'm sure it's a typo,but 1.21GW of lighting is 1.21 billion watts...pretty close to several estimates of the load of the entire Las Vegas "Strip". 

[Onewolf]

Getting closer. Electricians have installed on the outlets, fixtures, etc. They used an extension cord from the house to test all the 120V circuits. Electrical inspection scheduled for tomorrow. When inspection passes FPL will hookup 200AMP service from the street. Here are some pictures taken while they were testing the light circuits.

All the fluoresecent light bulbs in the detached garage are Maxlite T8 6500K Daylight 3200 (initial) Lumen bulbs. The garage area has two independent light zones so not all 1.21GW of lighting has to be on/off at the same time.


Train Layout Room - The train room has 13 ceiling light fixtures. The lights in the train room may seem to have an 'interesting' pattern, but it will all make sense once the layout benchwork is constructed.


Model Workshop

[NP2626]

Wow!  Looking over your photos and bang there is a video to watch, so you drew me in.  You guys who are so tech. savvy blow me away with what you know how to do! The volume on my sound system was a tad high!  So, when the music started it scared the B-jeebers out of me! 

 

Good luck!  You have wonderful place to play with your trains!

[richhotrain]

There is only one word for all of this.

WOW!

You will now become the most envied man on the forums.  

That new outbuilding could easily be mistaken for someone's house.

Absolutely beautiful.  How big is your overall property, if I might ask?

The next time that I drive down to Fort Myers, I am stopping by, invited or not.   

Rich

[jmbjmb]

Congrats.  Trying to convince the wife of the same thing -- place for the boat, shop, storage, and, um, trains. 

 

jim

[slammin]

[quote user="carl425"]

.  I also wish you had asked earlier as one of the best ideas I've seen for a purpose built train roon was using plywood on the walls instead of drywall so you can attach virtually anything anywhere.

It really looks like a great space.

 

With the existing building codes as well as the HOA, I doubt plywood in lieu of drywall wood be permitted due to flame spread. Perhaps with drywall over the plywood. In the 50s US Steel packaged small ranch houses, approx 1000 sq ft, with plywood walls. I saw several burn. Occupants could barely get out fast enough. 

[UPinCT]

Onewolf, Congrats on having a beautiful purpose built space for your layout. Looks like you'll have a beautiful layout as well. Invite me over for an operating session when you are done. Keep posting pics of your progress. Good luck Derek

[carl425]

I didn't understand the mouse ears on the track plan until I saw you were in east central Florida.

sorry, couldn't resist.

I do like your use of the mushroom concept.  I also wish you had asked earlier as one of the best ideas I've seen for a purpose built train roon was using plywood on the walls instead of drywall so you can attach virtually anything anywhere.

It really looks like a great space.