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Posted by steinjr on Friday, March 6, 2009 12:43 PM

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  Perhaps you should try reading the LDSIG (Layout Design Special Interest Group) primer on layout design to get a clearer idea of what you are trying to do ?

 Here is a link to the LDSIG primer

 Good luck with your design.

 Smile,
 Stein

 

 

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Posted by steemtrayn on Friday, March 6, 2009 12:05 PM

Caps key stuck?

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Posted by thatboy37 on Friday, March 6, 2009 11:16 AM

cuyama

There are possibly more efficient ways to use the room footprint than what you have sketched. For example, a long spiral peninsula will usually reduce the total curvature and allow for more areas where yards and industries can placed.

In my experience, it's often limiting to design the benchwork first, before fully defining the vision, concept, and rough schematic of the layout, but best of luck to you.

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well i like your idea maybe you can sketch aomething up for me and i will take it into consideration. i went with what i thought would get me the most real estate in the room and with the minimum walkway space of 30" in front of the yard and 3' in the isle .

 

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Posted by thatboy37 on Friday, March 6, 2009 11:07 AM

yes im excited about this as you can tell. here are a few pictures of the yard i have built it is only 16ft long and i have to build the other 8ft section to build to make the yard complete. these are some pics of the 16ft yard in a train show at johnny's toys in january of this year. the yard worked fine for the firts show except for the one switch that gave a couple problems but no biggie. just have to replace the switch and up and running trains we went. hope you guys like. im going to build my layout of the specifications of the ntrak club im in that way if i want to take my yard out and take it to a show i can. it has no scenery as i almost didnt get it finished for the show. but i made it and here is what i have to show of the show and some of my trains.

the trains in this picture the silver ns coalporters headed by 3 ns 70m thats mine and the road railer train headed by 5 conrail sd 70's is mine to. 
 
this picture the tanker train headed out to make its run is headed by 2 sd38-2 l&n are mine. the sd90 with sd40 and the up smotthside passenger cars is mine, also the 3 sd90 cp are mine to with the double stacks
 
the trains in the center are mine to they are the ones i just described in the picture above
 
the 3 center trains facing me are mine and they are the ones in the earlier pictures
just a picture of the camera on ground level with a couple of my trains ready for departure
 
yes this is my 5 headed conrail roadrailer train headed back into the yard just passing through man i was amazed the these locos could pull a 100 roadrailers and thats what it was pulling with ease. 3 could pull it but i put the extra to lighten the load for all 5 engines
 
a shot from the far end of the yard with my 2 headed csx ac4400 auto rack train headed into the yard for storage.
 
again the 2 headed csx autorack waiting to be assigned to the road is loaded and ready to go.
 
here is my 2 headed sd90 cefx staley pressureside hoppers train coming in from a long days work on the road
 
again my sd90 cefx train waiting for the chance to hit the road for delivery.
 
 
 
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Posted by cuyama on Friday, March 6, 2009 10:53 AM

There are possibly more efficient ways to use the room footprint than what you have sketched. For example, a long spiral peninsula will usually reduce the total curvature and allow for more areas where yards and industries can placed.

In my experience, it's often limiting to design the benchwork first, before fully defining the vision, concept, and rough schematic of the layout, but best of luck to you.

Byron
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Posted by thatboy37 on Friday, March 6, 2009 10:11 AM

well the photo's that i posted had the bench work drawn in sections as to how im going to build the bench work. section by section this thing will be built and yes it will be dcc but with a throw switch somewhere so i/club members will be able to run dc also, but it will mainly dcc for my likings. but here's a picture of the sections size and how the layout will be built. the bold marker is the size of each section. sorry for not making the letters bigger in the first 2 pictures. 

 
hope this helps with throwing me some ideas.
 
reggie
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Posted by HHPATH56 on Friday, March 6, 2009 9:04 AM

 HI,    You have already figured out how to post a photo, but my explanation may provide more help with various aspects of other features.

34'x13' in N scale, (with peninsulas, will give you quite an Empire.  You are going to use DCCRC, (I assume).   If you can afford it, I suggest that you go with Digitrax Radio Control.  I preplanned my garage loft 24'x24;\' HO scale layout, and then built it in small Power Districts, with "future expansion" turnouts installed as dead turnouts.  This will allow you to "have fun running your trains and learning from your mistakes", as you progress with your "Dream Plan Build" Empire.   Because I ended up with 102 turnouts, (of which 96 are electrically controlled), I divided my layout into 4 (Power and Switch Control) districts.  I made large diagrams of each of the 4 districts, and use touch probe switch control. (as shown in the photo), with 24 numbered double probes, (per district).  I felt that with that many turnouts, that DCC controlled turnouts would be too expensive and slower than visually controlled numbered probe turnouts.    

Make a detailed drawing of your proposed bench work, and what scenery theme you intend to use. After 7 years, I have just purchased the last structure that I can logically cram into my layout   I assume that you are going to divide your huge layout into 6-8 Power Districts.   You may eventually use a computer programmed set-up. We need to see your proposed bench work and desired location of scenery structures, so that we can help with suggested layout plans. Is this to be a prototype, or freelance layout?

Now, "How do you Post a photo?  Either digital camera (or scanner) photos must first be downloaded onto a Host. I use Photobucket.com, for my "Railroad Album" photos. Name the Album that you wish to use for all your model railroad photos.  When the "Titled" photos" are downloaded as a sequential set, you will see that below each photo, there are four Options. The bottom option is usually labeled IMG, with brackets around it. (Incidentally, don't ever put the brackets around the IMG in any correspondence, or you will have "trouble".)    Select the photo that you wish to transfer to Trains.com, Forums, and click on the IMG below the photo.  It may "momentarily" say "Copied. Or,( "recently, for some reason") you click on the little square below the photo, then click on the rectangle to the right. and it turns  blue. Then go to "Edit" above, and click on "Copy". Now, go back to Trains Forum and either start your own Thread, or click on Reply.  You can then enter any "editable" text that you wish. Click on Enter to move the cursor down. Click on "ctrlV" and the lengthy code for your photo will appear. After you have checked for "typos", you click on Post.  Soon, your text and small version of the photo will appear, at the end" of the string of other modelers posted texts.  You can enlarge any photo by clicking on it. Next to the enlarged photo may appear three other small photos from your Photobucket MR Album.  Click on the right photo, and proceed through all the photos in the Album. If you enlarge any photo, you click on the X on the Work Line, to return to the Forum Thread.   You can always Edit the text of a Posted Reply, Likewise, you can delete any "ugh"! duplicate posted photo by backspacing over the photo "code".   Nuff said!  Post a photo of your benchwork for your layout, and tell us the era, theme, location of desired structures, etc., and we will try to suggest a possible :Layout.  Following is a photo of my "inside stairway, garage loft HO layout", and a photo of one of the 4 power district consoles.    Bob Hahn 

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The last photo is one end of my stub-ended 7 track yard, showing the lengthy "drill tracks", which allow the switcher to format consists of full freight trains, without going onto the main line!   This is important in setting up a staging yard.  Note the double-slip switches. The other 5ft long yard on my layout is a 7 track pass-through yard, which can be used as a run-around, if necessary. It is used, basically, for the storage of 48+ freight cars.  The roundhouse and entire Ashland Iron and Steel complex will, also occupy the peninsula (with access hole in the center)

This is exciting, to imagine a 34'x13' N scale layout!   I assume that you are going for a Digitrax SuperChief DCC set-up. (or equivalent).  Is this a basement layout with cement block walls, or are the walls "dry-walled"?    If possible, get your backdrop for the entire layout done before you install the bench work. With movable bench work, you may be able to do the backdrop later. I use a continuous set of sequential 7'X11" SceniKing photos,(attached with a giant glue stick to a Luan backdrop")        How about lighting and electric wall outlets. Where do you plan to have the Master control located.   I have a suspended ceiling, with 10 two tube shop light fixtures.( which provides good lighting, but cannot be dimmed!)  If possible, get all the layout wiring in while the benchwork is still open.  I am 82 years old, and am not quite as agile as I once was. I have to inhstall buss wires and switch wires to a completed layout. A 24' yard is tremendous in N scale. How many tracks in the yard?    What is your Theme and era to be?   Mine is freelanced, with two towns, two harbors and mountainous steel mines and steel manufacturing set up.  Have you considered using center backdrops on your peninsulas?  Or do you want to view the entire layout on entering the room? (That's what I do with my unobstructed 24'x24' space.)    Send drawings of your layout ideas and we will "critique".  e-mail ROBTAHahn@Earthlink.net

 

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Posted by thatboy37 on Friday, March 6, 2009 8:47 AM

 

thatboy37

im in the process of desiging a new layout in n scale in a room that is 13 feet by 34 feet. im looking to have on the long 34 ft wall a yard that is 24ft by 30" wide and the rest of that 10ft will be 30" wide also. along both 13ft walls it will be 2ft wide and along the back side of the other 34ft wall to be 2ft wide also. i will have a total of 4 penisulas 3 of them will measure 4ft by 6ft off the back wall and one will be 3ft by 6ft all walkways will be 3ft wide except in between the end of the 4 penisulas and the yard will be 30" wide. im looking to have a 3 or 4 mainline run leaning more towards 3. if you can picture what im saying in your mind i would like to have your advice on a track plan. i will try and get a photo of the drawing i did of the room and the benchwork. i tried to attach a photo to the site but its been so long since i have done so i forgot how to do it. if there is someone who can tell me how to do it i will post a picture of it. but i hope i can just get a little input until i get the picture up and viewable.

well i figured out how to post pics again and its alot easier than before. well as you can tell the scribbly lines are the walk way and im building it by section that way it can be joined together and be taken apart with ease. it will be around the room and the bottom right corner is where the lift out will be. the door to the room is in the bottom right hand corner and swings/opens out into the hallway. it will be a 3 track mainline around the room i kind of have an idea but i would like to hear what you guys have for ideas. if you read the first post it tells what im leaning towards. thanks for any help you guys have to offer.

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Posted by pcarrell on Friday, March 6, 2009 8:04 AM

To post a pic, simply upload it to a hosting site, like Photobucket, then copy the Image link and paste it here.  When done right, you get this:

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Reggie's Trainworld
Posted by thatboy37 on Thursday, March 5, 2009 9:29 PM

how to post pics to show how and what my layout will look like to get help from you guys for a design

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