CLOSED////////The Coffee Pot is still on and over 3 years. Here we gather as friends with trains.

[dougdagrump]

Evenin' All.

Watching the Phoenix auto auction, some people have a whole bunch of disposable income it seems to me. But I guess we all have our addictions.

In reference to some of the earlier posts I saw about the TAS EOB, on another forum it was indicated that the Atlas engines that come with TMCC & EOB the max speed setting is deleted to make room for the EOB. That is one feature that I like because once you set it you didn't have to worry about anyone sending your loco flying off a curve.

Almost forgot !

Chief, Speaking on behalf of all SoCal's "We Surrender". Enuff of this COLD weather.

Most of my plants are history, Malibu had snow on the ground, it's still cold enuff at nite that if I had the equipment I could make snow. Will have to take out a second mortgage to pay the utility bill.  

 

[ChiefEagles]

Have to give him a hard time.   Hey, opened all my new Lionel Coaling Stations.  They do not have the slide thing and the little handle sticking out of the side of the building to pull and drop coal down the chute into a hopper car.  Got out my old one and sure enough, it had it back in the early 80's.  They are going backwards.

[laz 57]

Got my Father in law coming to visit tomorrow, so again, layout work is delayed.  I do hope to get some train time in this weekend.

Dennis

Excuses, excuses!!!!!  That is all I hear.  Never will get that layout so you can run trains.

Home again. 

THAT COMES FROM KING OF THE CARPET RUNNERS.

laz57

[ChiefEagles]

Got my Father in law coming to visit tomorrow, so again, layout work is delayed.  I do hope to get some train time in this weekend.

Dennis

Excuses, excuses!!!!!  That is all I hear.  Never will get that layout so you can run trains.

Home again. 

[laz 57]

Thanks John!

BTW - Laz, John, Mitch, et all in SEPA...

While I was at the York trainshow I ran into a fellow who was looking at the C&O F-19, the seller had the Chessie TMCC Cranesounds caboose, but no TMCC crane.  The buyer mentioned that some LHSs had both the Crane and Caboose... I would be interested in either the Chessie, Conrail, or MoW versions... have any of you seen these lately and if so where?

Much appreciated.
Brent

 

BRENT, BARRYS in ELIZABETHTOWN has The MOW Crane (and the crane car I think?)  I saw the crane in the shop and things were busy friday afternoon and got to talking about the Conrail and he thinks he might have them also?  If you want to give a call and ask the number is

BARRYs Train shop 717-367-4745  he is open Saturday from 10-4.

Hope this helps?

laz57

[Blueberryhill RR]

Also found the Lionel models (4 cars--two powered ) of the old Lackawanna Electrics that I commuted on daily (5:50 a.m.)from Morris Plains,N.J. to Hoboken Terminal during the '70s.[then under the river on the Tubes to 34th st.]. These train boxes are also prominently labeled "Made In America". The Lackawanna Electric prototype cars I rode were made in 1918 and 1922 and still had the old rattan seats in the "70s.

Dewey, I have a 2 car set of those that I'm planning to convert to TMCC, when time allows.  Now that I've got a start on my catenary I'll have to get at it.  I completed the installation on the old layot main today.  That is about a third of what I'm planning to do.

Here are a couple of pics of the catenary.

 

 

It gets a little ugly at the switches.

John, that really looks good. I love those " Electrics "

Chuck

[jefelectric]

Evening everyone.  Finally put the last of the decorations up and took down the Christmas layout.  You can take the tree,  the Holly, and the mistle toe, but please leave the trains.  I got a Lionel truck with the Tank car on the back.  It looks very good, and even though it would not go well on the layout, it will look great on a shelf in the train room.  I have been searching for the K-line shanty, no luck yet.  If you see one at a store or hear of one, please contact me.

Got my Father in law coming to visit tomorrow, so again, layout work is delayed.  I do hope to get some train time in this weekend.

Dennis

Dennis, exactly what 'shanty' are you looking for?

[dwiemer]

Evening everyone.  Finally put the last of the decorations up and took down the Christmas layout.  You can take the tree,  the Holly, and the mistle toe, but please leave the trains.  I got a Lionel truck with the Tank car on the back.  It looks very good, and even though it would not go well on the layout, it will look great on a shelf in the train room.  I have been searching for the K-line shanty, no luck yet.  If you see one at a store or hear of one, please contact me.

Got my Father in law coming to visit tomorrow, so again, layout work is delayed.  I do hope to get some train time in this weekend.

Dennis

[ChiefEagles]

Howdy.  On Niece's laptop.  Had her B'day party [chilli and then the cake and icecream].  Did not do much on layout.  Got out all my bathtub gons and diecast big hoppers.  Got too many hoppers.  Miss Edna called.  SWITCHES ARE IN!!!!!!! Off to Todd's early tomorrow AM.  Will not stay long so I can get back and get them installed.  Got to go home.

[jefelectric]

Also found the Lionel models (4 cars--two powered ) of the old Lackawanna Electrics that I commuted on daily (5:50 a.m.)from Morris Plains,N.J. to Hoboken Terminal during the '70s.[then under the river on the Tubes to 34th st.]. These train boxes are also prominently labeled "Made In America". The Lackawanna Electric prototype cars I rode were made in 1918 and 1922 and still had the old rattan seats in the "70s.

Dewey, I have a 2 car set of those that I'm planning to convert to TMCC, when time allows.  Now that I've got a start on my catenary I'll have to get at it.  I completed the installation on the old layot main today.  That is about a third of what I'm planning to do.

Here are a couple of pics of the catenary.

 

 

It gets a little ugly at the switches.

[rtraincollector]

Dewey by my price guide it says it was made in 1987. hope that helps you remember lol.

Hey all not much happening tonight. just trying to look here and there on the Internet.

Laz will try to remember to bring and drop one of those off at the house next week so I can get you some good measurements on those pallets and show you what they look like. Have one in back of my work truck but keep forgetting to take it off when here for lunch or have a different truck for some reason.

You all were talking about old cars the other day well my work truck is a 1987 Chevy C-30 dually with a flatbed on the back and it has about 230,000 miles on it with the original 454 in her. the main problem we have with her is she like to eat starters I've been driving her for 4 years now and we have put in 4 starters. its about time as I here the normal sounds she gets hard to start like you have a bad battery and then she kicks in strong. Every so often she sounds like your turning the key and the motor is running but its not. but she is still a good truck I'll miss her when they replace her and that's what there talking about. (she runs on propane)

Here's some pics from when I was working over at the receiving plant the other week.

Propane car being emptied what we do is pump vapor in to push the liquid propane out to our tanks.

Line of 5 cars we are pumping. actually there are 3 behind as I took the pick

Actual pumping station.

 

[A&Y Ry]

Digging around in the basement at our mountain cottage today and found an old Lionel Service Station Special set called the "Southern Freight Runner" (#6-11704, labeled "Made In America"). I do not recall when the set came out but I know I haven't operated it in more than 15 years---used to run it on carpet at Christmas but I boxed it up, stored and forgot about it when my mountain shelf RR with Williams Ps-4s, Mikados and other steamers was built in '92. The set is a Southern GP-9 with toolcar, tanker, hopper, operating coal dump car and caboose--all lettered for the SRR.

Also found the Lionel models (4 cars--two powered ) of the old Lackawanna Electrics that I commuted on daily (5:50 a.m.)from Morris Plains,N.J. to Hoboken Terminal during the '70s.[then under the river on the Tubes to 34th st.]. These train boxes are also prominently labeled "Made In America". The Lackawanna Electric prototype cars I rode were made in 1918 and 1922 and still had the old rattan seats in the "70s.

Felt like it was Christmas for awhile there this afternoon. I brought the GP-9 and cars to Greensboro tonight. Gonna lube and clean up the set for a test run tomorrow.

 

 

 

[Roger Bielen]

Hobo, could switching the motor leads, and back-up/head-light wires accomplish what you want?  As far as the electronics would know the engine is going forward.  This assuming the motor is a DC type with electronics converting AC to DC.

[1688torpedo]

  Hello All!   Boy oh Boy!  The Chief must be working very hard on his layout in order for us to get the Snow we have now!. CSXJohn- Hope your basement dries up soon. Not good for your Track or Trains with all of that Dampness. I would not want a layout in a basement due to such problems as leaks or Sewer Backups that some folks have to contend with! Lionel made a Black/Red Porthole Caboose that should go good with your Atlas Engine. Maybe Charlie Siegal has one or you can find one at a show. They made two versions of which the first came out in 1996 as a seperate sale item & another one for one of their mid-range sets called the "Keystone Express" around Three Years ago. Gryzboski's in Scranton might have some of them also. Take Care all.

[csxt30]

Good Evening Everyone !! Glad it's Friday, let the snow begin !! Just kidding !! But if it does snow a lot now, I shoudn't be working out in it !!

Thanks Chief for the idea on the bilge pumps for the backup sump !  That sounds good !! I keep forgetting what could happen if the electric goes off !!

Boy, I'm getting real close to getting my income tax refund now. Just need my W-2s & I can pay for my new Atlas steamer !!  If anyone runs across a good idea for a Pennsy caboose that would look good behind it, let me know !! Maybe I can squeeze that in too !!

Well, hope everyone has a nice weekend & not tooooo much snow !!

Thanks, John

[rtraincollector]

Thanks John!

BTW - Laz, John, Mitch, et all in SEPA...

While I was at the York trainshow I ran into a fellow who was looking at the C&O F-19, the seller had the Chessie TMCC Cranesounds caboose, but no TMCC crane.  The buyer mentioned that some LHSs had both the Crane and Caboose... I would be interested in either the Chessie, Conrail, or MoW versions... have any of you seen these lately and if so where?

Much appreciated.
Brent

Not sure which crain but think its conrail but local hobby shop has one for sure as I've asked him about it last week just curious because of the price knew it wasn't your normal crane. not sure about caboose but do know crane for sure

www.deltavilledepot.com

 

[Anonymous]

 Oh yes I love the lionel cab forward ! I just wanted something different and thought maybe it could be done . I researched and there were many different cab forwards built excluding the ones that all the manufacturers have for sale. I just love building the different rolling stock/engines that can't be bought over the counter . I saw quite a few of the williams models on ebay and like a dummy let them go . The lionel lionmasters are fabulous but untouchable as far as re-detailing ! You would'nt believe the extra detailing I add to alot of them . Am finishing my brass snowplow blade for my engine now . Shovels and pokers in the engine cab and etc. But can it be done ? The conversion ? If all else fails guess I'll have to buy a ready made unit but really want to scratch/convert an engine . You get alot of eyeballs and questions when you walk into a club with a "one of a kind piece "  !

[jefelectric]

 Knowing most of the experts are here .... I can't find a suitable cab forward in O scale . Want to rebuild an engine in appropriate drive scheme to be one . Question is .... since I was HO man most of my life .... can a O scale engine be rewired to run as a full functioning cab forward ? In other words when I place controller in forward it will actually run in reverse and in reverse it will run forward. A fellow here locally said get one with a lockout but I want forward and reverse without programming my tmcc as I sometimes take my engines to places without those facilities. I can easily build the brass compartment/cab face and change couplers with modifications to modify one but am wondering if only rewiring the motor will do it . Would rather use one of the modern tmcc engines and need all input you learned fellows can give me . 

If it can't be done easily with tmcc ... I'll go with another type engine.

Hobo, There is a Williams cab forward on the auction right now.  Lionel made one in Lionmaster in 2005 that might be in some shops yet.  Maybe the big boys like Trainworld or Just trains.  3rd rail made one in the past, not sure what years or if any can be found.

[Buckeye Riveter]

You don't like the Lionel cab-forward, Hobo?

Does Weaver make one, too? Or 3rd Rail?  I know I have seen them.

[Jumijo]

 

You don't like the Lionel cab-forward, Hobo?

[Anonymous]

 Knowing most of the experts are here .... I can't find a suitable cab forward in O scale . Want to rebuild an engine in appropriate drive scheme to be one . Question is .... since I was HO man most of my life .... can a O scale engine be rewired to run as a full functioning cab forward ? In other words when I place controller in forward it will actually run in reverse and in reverse it will run forward. A fellow here locally said get one with a lockout but I want forward and reverse without programming my tmcc as I sometimes take my engines to places without those facilities. I can easily build the brass compartment/cab face and change couplers with modifications to modify one but am wondering if only rewiring the motor will do it . Would rather use one of the modern tmcc engines and need all input you learned fellows can give me . 

If it can't be done easily with tmcc ... I'll go with another type engine.

[Anonymous]

  I wonder if the ERR upgrades are compatible with the TAS upgrades... I like the TAS TMCC and fan-driven-smokers, but the ERR tachless cruise really has me interested...

I would like to know if the ERR cruise control is a drop in.  The EOB system by TAS is supposed to be a drop in system that replaces the original Lionel board.  ??????? Plug and play ???????  I also like the idea that ERR is promoting about the tachless cruise and synchronizing motors.

For those of you who haven't used the cruise control features now available, well, I must say I had my doubts, but now I'm a believer.  (Wasn't that an old Monkey's song?)

I would be interested to know more about the ERR board.  EOB by TAS is NOT Plug and Play!  It replaces the original Lionel board, BUT you have to cut thw #24 pin on the mainboard, then solder a wire from the EOB board to the #24 pin, you then solder another wire from the EOB board to the #24 pin on the back of the RDLC board.  Those are the two biggest mods.  The other problem I can foresee with the TAS is the tach... making sure the LED sensor is .030" from the tack strip and making sure the EOB sensor board doesn't move.  The TAS board also includes the option to convert the standard smoking puffer from 2 puffs per chuff, to 4 puffs per chuff - more realistic.  I haven't decided if I am making this mod yet or not - it requires disconnecting the smoke unit plug (or cutting a wire), and then solder the last wire from the EOB board to the #17 pin on the back of the RDLC board...

Buckeye, I am at the soldering step, and have pics of just about everything I have done.  Once you start cutting pins and soldering there is NO going back!

READ THIS IS A NONE REVERSABLE MODIFICATION!

[Buckeye Riveter]

  I wonder if the ERR upgrades are compatible with the TAS upgrades... I like the TAS TMCC and fan-driven-smokers, but the ERR tachless cruise really has me interested...

I would like to know if the ERR cruise control is a drop in.  The EOB system by TAS is supposed to be a drop in system that replaces the original Lionel board.  ??????? Plug and play ???????  I also like the idea that ERR is promoting about the tachless cruise and synchronizing motors.

For those of you who haven't used the cruise control features now available, well, I must say I had my doubts, but now I'm a believer.  (Wasn't that an old Monkey's song?)

[jonadel]

Had some friends from Denver, CO send us several pics this morning from a 1913 blizzard and I immediately thought of Doug and his love for trolley's.  Enjoy.

Jon

 

[Jumijo]

. . .

Lion, check out the recommendation on the Soldering Station in the Soldering Thread.  Old Penny Pincher Apitz will get you in trouble, trying to get you out CHEAP. . . .Later 

Why you . . . I bought a 40 watt iron and a holder with sponge for less than $15.00! Solder and tip tinner was another $10.00. Of course, my iron isn't adjustable. It's either hot or not.

Jim 

[laz 57]

LIONROAR 88,

   BRENT, I'll check today when I go to the tain shop.

laz57

[Anonymous]

Thanks John!

BTW - Laz, John, Mitch, et all in SEPA...

While I was at the York trainshow I ran into a fellow who was looking at the C&O F-19, the seller had the Chessie TMCC Cranesounds caboose, but no TMCC crane.  The buyer mentioned that some LHSs had both the Crane and Caboose... I would be interested in either the Chessie, Conrail, or MoW versions... have any of you seen these lately and if so where?

Much appreciated.
Brent

[jefelectric]

GIZ,

  By doing some calculations and this is day 19 of the month of January, and we have already 43 pages at the pot, that is 2.2631577 pages per day times 365 days we should be at 826 at Dec.31,2007?

  I wonder if this torrent of words will hold up?

  Boy I have a lot of time on my hands huh?

laz57

Laz, You sure do, need to spend more time running trains.  I stopped in at Barry's yesterday, didn't see anything new and exciting.  Looked at a "Steelton" Beep but resisted.  Chatted with Mike and another customer for a while, Barry was there for a few seconds before retiring to the back room.

Brent, The clamps Roger mentioned are hemostats, they are available at most all trains shows and some LHS.  Back in the 50s we used them to clamp the fuel lines on our control line combat planes with pressurized fuel tanks.  Back then you had to buy them at a surgical supply house and they were not cheap, paid more back then, then now.  They are one of the handiest hobby tools I ever owned.  Have about half dozen of different shapes.

John Baker,  Hang in there and stay warm.  How is your cold doing?  Is the medication working?

Sounds like everyone is running trains.  I set up my two Atlas, Jersey Central GP-9 as a lashup.  They sure do run great.  Smoke pouring our of 4 stacks.  They pull like crazy.  Have 14 heavy cars on the train and they don't even slow.  The 4 motors only draw a little over an amp. When I last set up my two Lionel trainmasters with pullmor motors they draw almost 8 amps.

Well if I want to get anything done on the layout, I'll have to get started.

[Anonymous]

Chief,
Already saw the recommendation... heading out at lunch to pick up the soldering supplies!

Buckeye,
I'll let you know how this upgrade goes... One thing I have noticed - the EOB sensor is attached to the motor, the flywheel in the pic has much more surface area to mount the Tach to and I'm not sure mine is going to work well...

When MaryE did his PE upgrade from ERR he said it didn't have a Tach, that is very interesting... they didn't responde to my inquiries before I had already purchased the TAS EOB so here's hoping this goes well.  I wonder if the ERR upgrades are compatible with the TAS upgrades... I like the TAS TMCC and fan-driven-smokers, but the ERR tachless cruise really has me interested...

[Anonymous]

GIZ,

...

Boy I have a lot of time on my hands huh?

laz57

Couldn't have said it better myself!