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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 15, 2004 6:01 PM
kckc61, To whom do you wi***o have e-mail you. include screen name addresse.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 15, 2004 6:01 PM
kckc61, To whom do you wi***o have e-mail you. include screen name addresse.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 15, 2004 6:09 PM
Hi ;;Sorry this is new to me,,I would like Dougdagrump to e-mail some pics if possible or any other folks that have good ideas, Thanks,Kckc61,, kckc@cox-internet.com
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 15, 2004 6:09 PM
Hi ;;Sorry this is new to me,,I would like Dougdagrump to e-mail some pics if possible or any other folks that have good ideas, Thanks,Kckc61,, kckc@cox-internet.com
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Posted by dougdagrump on Monday, February 16, 2004 10:58 PM
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Posted by dougdagrump on Monday, February 16, 2004 10:58 PM
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 12, 2004 10:20 AM
hey dougdagrump, i'm new to this website, but i was looking to build a shelf up near the ceiling in my kids room for their train. i saw your email and would be interested in seeing pictures of your layout and any help you can give me thanks krausett
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 12, 2004 10:20 AM
hey dougdagrump, i'm new to this website, but i was looking to build a shelf up near the ceiling in my kids room for their train. i saw your email and would be interested in seeing pictures of your layout and any help you can give me thanks krausett
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Posted by dougdagrump on Friday, March 12, 2004 2:28 PM
jodo, sent you an e-mail.

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Posted by dougdagrump on Friday, March 12, 2004 2:28 PM
jodo, sent you an e-mail.

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Posted by FJ and G on Friday, March 12, 2004 2:43 PM
SotaBoy,

I have experience building an office shelf layout.

Go to page 1 here:

http://davidvergun.tripod.com/

If the site is down, it will be up in about another hour.

I use shelving from homedepot and styrofoam (construction variety that's at least 4 inches thick). No plywood or wood of any type is used.

I pretty much run trains at work whenever I feel like it as I don't have one of those bosses from hell.

I've got a ton of other tips if anyone is interested.

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Posted by FJ and G on Friday, March 12, 2004 2:43 PM
SotaBoy,

I have experience building an office shelf layout.

Go to page 1 here:

http://davidvergun.tripod.com/

If the site is down, it will be up in about another hour.

I use shelving from homedepot and styrofoam (construction variety that's at least 4 inches thick). No plywood or wood of any type is used.

I pretty much run trains at work whenever I feel like it as I don't have one of those bosses from hell.

I've got a ton of other tips if anyone is interested.

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Posted by FJ and G on Friday, March 12, 2004 2:48 PM
BTW, I'm preparing to start a narrow shelf layout for my 3-rail trains. Here are some advantages of narrow shelf layouts (less than 3 feet wide):

1. The rest of the basement can have multi-uses such as pool table, TV room, bar etc

2. Easy to reach the trains for derailments, uncoupling, etc.

3. Easy to paint backdrop even after layout is done

4. Easy to reach wiring and under layout problems or fixes

5. MUCH better to see the trains up close

6. Allows longer runs (vice shorter runs with islands‚

7. Allows future expansion possibilities with peninsulas

8. Construction much easier and less materials if using steel brackets

9. Flexibility in going from room to room (just punch hole in drywall

10. Gentler curves instead of round and round and round and round a circle of track on an island
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Posted by FJ and G on Friday, March 12, 2004 2:48 PM
BTW, I'm preparing to start a narrow shelf layout for my 3-rail trains. Here are some advantages of narrow shelf layouts (less than 3 feet wide):

1. The rest of the basement can have multi-uses such as pool table, TV room, bar etc

2. Easy to reach the trains for derailments, uncoupling, etc.

3. Easy to paint backdrop even after layout is done

4. Easy to reach wiring and under layout problems or fixes

5. MUCH better to see the trains up close

6. Allows longer runs (vice shorter runs with islands‚

7. Allows future expansion possibilities with peninsulas

8. Construction much easier and less materials if using steel brackets

9. Flexibility in going from room to room (just punch hole in drywall

10. Gentler curves instead of round and round and round and round a circle of track on an island
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 26, 2004 10:29 AM
I agree with all and would add a few more. The train shelf in my office sits above the doorways so it takes up NO ROOM, which is my biggest problem for O gauge layouts. If you use nice wood and match the room, it also looks very nice in the room as opposed to my former large monstrosity in the basement.
I am also able to indulge in some basic landscaping in the corners and along the rails with street lights and buildings, etc. Its a great way to display the trains, and I love it so far.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 26, 2004 10:29 AM
I agree with all and would add a few more. The train shelf in my office sits above the doorways so it takes up NO ROOM, which is my biggest problem for O gauge layouts. If you use nice wood and match the room, it also looks very nice in the room as opposed to my former large monstrosity in the basement.
I am also able to indulge in some basic landscaping in the corners and along the rails with street lights and buildings, etc. Its a great way to display the trains, and I love it so far.
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Posted by tschmidt on Thursday, July 29, 2004 8:11 AM
We were putting in a family room (18x18) and wanted to incorporate the trains (O gauge) is some way. I was able to build a 6" shelf around 3 of the walls and a 20" deep bookcase on the 4th wall. This allows for 3 or 4 tracks across the top of the bookshelf. There were 2 tricky parts. The first was a staircase coming into the room. We cut a hole through the side of a riser along the wall and it made a great tunnel entrance. Where we crossed a doorway a fold down shelf/bridge was built that alligns the track perfectly every time. All my wiring and power was able to be hidden from sight.

I used Gargraves track and Ross switches. By using TMCC I have no power packs or controllers out in the open. It is extremely sturdy. I used a 6" triangle shaped piece of wood at every stud to support the shelf. I found these pre-cut at Home Depot.

On the walls I used shelving from Glenn Snyder display systems out of Buffalo. It's aluminum and strong. I put 12' of trains on each shelf and it holds them easily. It is not very expensive either.

By doing it this way we were able to have our family room and trains all in the same place. It turned out great and looks pretty good too. If anyone is interested in a pictures I'd be happy to take some and email them to you. Contact me if you want more info.

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Posted by tschmidt on Thursday, July 29, 2004 8:11 AM
We were putting in a family room (18x18) and wanted to incorporate the trains (O gauge) is some way. I was able to build a 6" shelf around 3 of the walls and a 20" deep bookcase on the 4th wall. This allows for 3 or 4 tracks across the top of the bookshelf. There were 2 tricky parts. The first was a staircase coming into the room. We cut a hole through the side of a riser along the wall and it made a great tunnel entrance. Where we crossed a doorway a fold down shelf/bridge was built that alligns the track perfectly every time. All my wiring and power was able to be hidden from sight.

I used Gargraves track and Ross switches. By using TMCC I have no power packs or controllers out in the open. It is extremely sturdy. I used a 6" triangle shaped piece of wood at every stud to support the shelf. I found these pre-cut at Home Depot.

On the walls I used shelving from Glenn Snyder display systems out of Buffalo. It's aluminum and strong. I put 12' of trains on each shelf and it holds them easily. It is not very expensive either.

By doing it this way we were able to have our family room and trains all in the same place. It turned out great and looks pretty good too. If anyone is interested in a pictures I'd be happy to take some and email them to you. Contact me if you want more info.

Tom


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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 2, 2004 9:03 PM
Tom,

I'd love to see some pics. my email is wknox at nauticom.net.

Thanks!
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 2, 2004 9:03 PM
Tom,

I'd love to see some pics. my email is wknox at nauticom.net.

Thanks!
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Posted by tschmidt on Sunday, August 22, 2004 10:33 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by RedCaboose522

Tom,

I'd love to see some pics. my email is wknox at nauticom.net.

Thanks!


I tried to send the pics to your email address but there was a delivery failure. Send a message to tschmidt@madbbs.com and I will reply.

Thanks, Tom
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Posted by tschmidt on Sunday, August 22, 2004 10:33 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by RedCaboose522

Tom,

I'd love to see some pics. my email is wknox at nauticom.net.

Thanks!


I tried to send the pics to your email address but there was a delivery failure. Send a message to tschmidt@madbbs.com and I will reply.

Thanks, Tom
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Posted by spankybird on Sunday, August 22, 2004 11:05 AM
Hey Guy, why not post the pics here on the forum for us all to see [?]

I am a person with a very active inner child. This is why my wife loves me so. Willoughby, Ohio - the home of the CP & E RR. OTTS Founder www.spankybird.shutterfly.com 

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Posted by spankybird on Sunday, August 22, 2004 11:05 AM
Hey Guy, why not post the pics here on the forum for us all to see [?]

I am a person with a very active inner child. This is why my wife loves me so. Willoughby, Ohio - the home of the CP & E RR. OTTS Founder www.spankybird.shutterfly.com 

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 23, 2004 8:24 AM
I have an 18' X 12' living room with one open end which enables me to expand from 18' to 30'+ and would like to run a lionel train i just recieved from my grandfather...would like to either mount it to the wall or suspend it from the ceiling any ideas on how i would accompli***his task...any help on this topic would be appreciated...

Jon

by the way this is an older home with plaster and lathe walls so finding studs may be a problem
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 23, 2004 8:24 AM
I have an 18' X 12' living room with one open end which enables me to expand from 18' to 30'+ and would like to run a lionel train i just recieved from my grandfather...would like to either mount it to the wall or suspend it from the ceiling any ideas on how i would accompli***his task...any help on this topic would be appreciated...

Jon

by the way this is an older home with plaster and lathe walls so finding studs may be a problem
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Posted by dougdagrump on Monday, August 23, 2004 1:27 PM
Try doing a "topic search", there have been quite a few postings relating to this topic. They will give you a good deal of info to sift through and help with your plans and decision making. Quite a few of the members here have done this and I am sure they would be more than willing to give their input and support.[^]

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Posted by dougdagrump on Monday, August 23, 2004 1:27 PM
Try doing a "topic search", there have been quite a few postings relating to this topic. They will give you a good deal of info to sift through and help with your plans and decision making. Quite a few of the members here have done this and I am sure they would be more than willing to give their input and support.[^]

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 23, 2004 3:19 PM
how much do the trains "O" weigh? strength of wall layout needed?
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 23, 2004 3:19 PM
how much do the trains "O" weigh? strength of wall layout needed?

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