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"Our" Place reborn! 3rd Year of adults 'n REAL Classic Trains in a special environment!
Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, October 14, 2007 12:55 PM

"Our" Place is CLOSED on SUNDAYs! 

G'day Gents!

Continuing on with the weekend series of fotos from my 2006 Alaska RR Adventure, here's ten more!

(1) Train Depot at Talkeetna, Alaska from southbound Denali Star

(2) Southbound Denali Star at Talkeetna, Alaska

(3) Where the Iditerod dog sled race officially begins!

(4) Wasilla - Home of the Iditerod

(5) En route Anchorage from southbound Denali Star

(6) Trailers in wilderness from southbound Denali Star

(7) En route Anchorage from southbound Denali Star

(8) En route Anchorage from southbound Denali Star

(9) En route Anchorage from southbound Denali Star

(10) En route Anchorage from southbound Denali Star

<last 8 cars were Cruise Ship UltraDomes>

Enjoy! Thumbs Up [tup]

That's it for this fine day! See y'all Monday morning - good Lord willing ‘n the creek don't rise! <grin>

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

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Posted by EricX2000 on Sunday, October 14, 2007 11:26 PM

Hmm, here it is! Just drop it through the slot. The Oktoberfest is going on at full blast in the tent, I can hear.

The Snakes lost again tonight! It is pathetic. I wonder how they managed to win their division?

Per –  The first moose hit by the X2000 did not have a chance, even though the speed was very moderate, 60-70 mph. It was a cow and she ended up in the ditch along the track with her feet straight up. The damage to the train was minor, the plastic cover over the coupler got a crack.

I’ll keep my eyes open next spring to see if I can make it to the Fullerton Railroad Days.Smile [:)] It sounds like a one day trip to visit the events.

Thanks for explaining the reason why the SP steamer couldn’t make a stop at Wylie! Thumbs Up [tup]

Dm3 was never used for passenger service. The train in the picture was a special during the 150th Railroad Anniversary in Sweden last year. The picture was taken in Gävle. The car on the next track is an OKB (Ostkustbanan) car from the 30’s. See picture below.Smile [:)]



A snowdrift across the track? Just keep going, don’t slow down. Same thing if there are no drifts but a lot of deep snow. Count on reduced initial braking power during the next brake application though. Wink [;)]

The “lollipops” on older Swedish locomotives are so called front-end signs, indicating the front end of the locomotive. They were removed 1973, replaced by letter A for the front end and letter B for the rear end. Smile [:)]

Very nice pictures from Williams, AZ!Thumbs Up [tup] Steam locomotive #18 is a SC-4 class, 2-8-0, locomotive built by ALCO 1910. #18 (and #20, 29) served on the Lake Superior & Ishpeming Railroad in northern Michigan until 1960.

Locomotive #6776 is an ALCO FPA-4, built in 1959. This particular locomotive served the Canadian National Railway.  It began its service for Grand Canyon Railway in 2000.

The dome car, The Kokopelli, was built for the Empire Builder and was put into service for Great Northen Railway May 29 1955. Amtrak took over the car in 1971. The car was leased to Alaska Railroad in the mid 80’s. Under new ownership of the Great Northern Dome Co. it was rebuilt in 1998. Grand Canyon Railway is leasing the car from the Great Northen Dome Co. since May, 2000. Smile [:)]

This info can be found on this link:
http://www.thetrain.com/learnmore/fleet/

Tom –  Good to see you back at the Bar! I guess you were lucky enough to bring the keys so you could make it inside this Sunday.Wink [;)] Or did you go to the tent in the back and borrowed Boris’ tools?

Don’t worry about missed Anniversaries! There is a new one coming up in less than a month!Smile [:)]

No, honestly, the Norwegians are solely responsible for who is awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.

I am just happy if the Budd cars in Canada will stay in service. Maybe I will get a chance to travel in them before it is too late?Smile [:)]

Another Hornblower movie?Oops [oops] Wow, how many are there? Secondhand Lions is new to me. Never heard of it, but the plot looks pretty good. The same about Dizzy Detectives.Smile [:)]

I guess you and I are wired  in a similar way (except when it comes to snow), I am in the same situation, never seen a “Back to the Future” movie. I’ve seen a few trailers, but that is it.Wink [;)]

More Alaska pictures!!Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup] Very nice pictures of very beautiful landscape! I wonder what those trailers are waiting for? I hope they are well insulated. Alaska is like a huge magnet on me. But I want to drive the Alaskan Highway up there and then take the train to Denali. No cruise ship for me. Thanks for the pictures!

JanOlov –  I have never seen any toilets in any locmotive in the old country. I know there were some vague plans to do something, but nothing ever happened.Smile [:)]

 

 

Eric
 

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"Our" Place reborn! 3rd Year of adults 'n REAL Classic Trains in a special environment!
Posted by siberianmo on Monday, October 15, 2007 6:57 AM

<personal foto>

 

A smile to begin the week!

The Mayor's wife commented on how "cool I looked and I replied: "You don't look so hot yourself."

<A Yogi-ism!>

 

Guten Morgen allerseits!

Wie ist jeder? Es is OKTOBERFEST! Partei wollen wir!

Monday has reared it's head to begin the work week <for many>. So, make the most of your start to the day by enjoying a hot mugga coffee, pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery ‘n a <light> or <traditional> breakfast too! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

Comments from the Proprietor:

 

OKTOBERFEST at "Our" Place every October Saturday at noon!

 

Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative)

 

Sunday - Oct 14th:

 

Eric (EricX2000) at 11:26 PM: Snakes lost! Snakes lost! Snakes lost! Wow!! [wow] Who wuddathunkit, eh Question [?] BUT, there still is a chance . . . . as Yogi once was quoted as saying, "It ain't over ‘til it's over!"

Nice looking passenger cars from the old country! Thumbs Up [tup] By the by, don't know if I've told ya this, but the car you gave me at the Rendezvous is sitting on a siding in the Can-Am Union Station complex. Yeah, decided to put her in there for a foto event - which hasn't happened <yet>! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Looks kinda out of place - BUT - interesting fer sure, fer sure! Yeah!! [yeah] One day she'll wind up in one of the wall mounted Lucite display cases . . . Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Apologies to you ‘n your fellow countrymen regarding the Nobel Prize comments . . . blame it on ignorance <mine> and the media who reported it as being awarded by Sweden. Shudda known better, since it's always been awarded in Oslo for as long as I can recall . . . HOWEVER, I was under the impression that there is <was> a collaborative effort by both countries to come up with the winners. Oh well, live ‘n learn, eh Question [?] Mea culpa, Mate! <grin>

We immediately ruled out cruise ships for our Alaska trip for two reasons: (1) I've had all the "sea duty" I'll ever need - and - (2) My bride has no interest in ships - zip, zero, zilch! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] So we flew to Anchorage ‘n the rest has been documented in fotos! Thumbs Up [tup] It's a great place to visit - so much to it - highly recommend it.

The Al-Can Highway is another story. Be sure to do lots of research regarding it BEFORE making plans to drive up. It's hardly a piece of cake to drive . . .

We have 8 Horatio Hornblower episodes that were put out by A&E . . . great stories 'n well done on DVD with many special features.

Appreciate the Sunday nite visit ‘n good stuff you provided regarding this ‘n that . . . especially the "train stuff" from Sweden! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.

Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!

Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!

Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!

Dinner begins at 5 PM Dinner [dinner] so come early ‘n often! Yeah!! [yeah]

Cindy is our Saturday bartender! Yeah!! [yeah]

 

 

Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Auf Wiedersehen!

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

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"Our" Place reborn! 3rd Year of adults 'n REAL Classic Trains in a special environment!
Posted by LoveDomes on Monday, October 15, 2007 8:32 AM

Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!

Ruth my deAH, a most strange weekend - I think a double jolt in the morning coffee will do me fine! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Appears that things ‘round here have been going on quite well in absence of the Proprietor ‘n Manager! That's really most heartening in that with so few "watching the store," the one's we do have certainly rose to the occasion! In particular Pete - Eric ‘n Jan! Nice going fellas! 5 Thumbs Up [tup] Salute to you three!

Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Boris, you don't look any worse for wear <no, no - I'm not talking about your ‘designer' overalls!> I see that our Bar Chandler provided you with your PPF on Saturday - after you fed the crittAHs, of course! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Regarding the forums ‘n stuff, well I think Cap'n Tom pretty much described it all. For me, I did NOT use any "system tools" or the like to clean my disk. Nope. Just logged off the forums, like I always do, and couldn't get back on. Don't have a clue why or what happened.  One strange thing with my situation, is at first I could view the sites, but then I couldn't even get the bar to "load" at all. Crazy. When I tried this Monday morning - no problem-O! <???????>

My Mrs. "discovered" that I was "idle," ‘n quickly found things for me to occupy myself! <groan> Hey Fergie! Any room on that ship of yours for a retired engineer Question [?] <puleeeeze>

I see Da Bossman caught up on Sunday with his Saturday "stuff"! Wow!! [wow] Good movies at the Emporium ‘n some excellent pix from Alaska! <double wow> Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

For Per: Nope, don't have very many railroad books, but do have boxes of magazines. However, the books are just a "thing" I do to provide some interesting "stuff" for the guyz at the bar. Glad you are enjoying ‘em!

I don't even wanna get involved with this Norway - Sweden "stuff" regarding the Nobel Prize! No one in my lineage evAH came close to that subject ‘n I suspect no one evAH will! We're just your "garden variety squareheads," work hard - play hard ‘n so forth. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] No egg heads amongst the lot. <grin>

I will say this, being a 2nd generation American I'm pretty much removed from the nonsense of European nationalistic this ‘n that. Ya know, the kind of stuff wars were fought ovAH - ‘n still could be! Nope. I'm not at all interested. I can't control where my "genes" came from - but I'm as American as they come in mind, thought ‘n soul! Yeah!! [yeah]

My relatives who came to this country all did their level best to ensure that they ‘n theirs quickly "joined" the new society. No "press one for English" with any of them, I assure you! Thumbs Up [tup]

A control tower for a model railroad!?!? That must be SOMETHING ELSE! Luv to see the aerial view . . . Yeah!! [yeah]

For Jan: Really don't know much about mid-western passenger roads. Undoubtedly with the hub in Chicago, there indeed was all kinds of competitiveness going on for the passenger's dollars! No doubt <no doot aboot it, for those in Canada!!>

On the pro-sports front:

Jets looked terrible - Jints are "on" tonight! GO JINTS! Yeah!! [yeah] Rangers didn't look good in their last game . . .

Don't know what to say about Eric's Repitles other than a quote from one of our less distinguished leaders, "I feel your pain!" Rockies are hot, Reptiles are not. Saw in the paper that the Rockies were one strike away from not getting the wild card. Happened during the Padres-Brewers final game of the year. Went into extra innings with only one more strike needed for the Padres to win the wild card slot. Didn't happen - Brewers won the game, forcing that one game playoff between the Rockies ‘n Padres to see who would get the wild card . . . the rest is history.

No time to panic up in Beantown - the Saaaaaauks are the bettAH team ‘n should prevail. But with three games in the mistake by the lake, anything could happen, huh Question [?]

 

 

Ok - subject ‘round here is Classic Trains - so let's get to ‘em. Here's what I wudda provided youse guyz over the weekend - HOWEVER - I'll trim ‘em down in number - in order to ensure that I don't get a <tweeting>!! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Time again for the Larsman Mobile!

TurboTrain Amtrak "The End" (1976) (from: www.trainweb.com)

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Posted by coalminer3 on Monday, October 15, 2007 9:10 AM

Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.

Let's start by spotlighting the sports in the sportlight spotlight.  College football is upside down after this weekend; especially UK and LSU game.  I did not last until the end of the Red Sox game on Saturday night as I had things to do yesterday morning.  Then we have the Patriots continuing - the game with Indianapolis later on is shaping up to be a "gunfight."  Giants as Lars has alerted us, play tonight.  So we will surf back and forth between them and the Olde Towne Team.  Rams and Bungles is dead, IMHO, along with a few other clubs as well.

Pete stopped by with all kinds of comments and pictures.  I especially enjoyed the shot of the GW 2-8-0.

Allan visited as well.

Eric - It's hard to stop a tem when they are "on a mission" as the Rockies are right now.  The only thing is that they can come back to earth just as quick.  They never should have played in that weather last night.  If the Red Sox survive and go on to play Colorado, the only question I have is how far will Ortiz hit one out there?  Thanks for the winter pictures.  New England Models did plastic kits for roads in that part of the country.   This was back before manufacturers did stuff for Maine Central, CV, etc.  I model in "N," but did buy some of their items for display.

Fergie - Cabot Strait next!  Enjoyed your description of the thunderstorm - remember that sort of things well off the Maine coast.  You got a good pick with the KC-CIN game. See my comments above.  I watched some of it and it was nowhere as close as the score suggested.  Guardian is a good movie. My son saw it and made me get the DVD.  Let me guess, you do laps on the quarterdeck as certain famous persons did...

Jan - Thanks for the LV pictures - I'll provide commentary later as my LV stuff is somewhere in the east wing.  Thoroughly enjoyed your post with "Hey, Porter" and the "Wreck of the Old '97."  Can't wait to see Boris do his stuff to "Drill, Ye Tarriers, Drill" and one of his favorites, "Paddy on the Railway." He has an excellent washboard solo on that one.

Lars is here, with Turbo shots, too.  The one marked "new Haven" is at South Station in Boston, beck before the rebuilding project, electrification and everything else that changed it beyond recognition.  Look sharp and you'll see some NYC commuter cars on the far side of the building which is where the B&A trains operated from.  Oh, and look at the picture at Wilmington with the GG1 in the background!  Something for everybody

Last OSP has sent along some Alaska pictures.  Also some excellent graphic arts material and historical items as well.  Good movies, too.  Hornblower series is always a good choice.  Second Hand Lions, for those who have not seen it, is a hoot.  Then we have the Stooges.

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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, October 15, 2007 11:00 AM

G'day Gents!

Here's something from "my other Thread" that was Posted this AM by CM3 Shane . . .

it is in reference to that yellow VIA Rail TurboTrain foto provided in the Larsman Mobile offering of this day . . . .

Good Morning: Fine artwork and a vintage turbo shot.  I could never get used to the yellow nose, however.  Turbo was an interesting ride as I did it more than a few times when it ran between Boston and NY.  Best seat was in the bubble on the head end.  I tried to sit on the "fireman's" side as you could see all of the instruments, etc. the engineer used.  It was also good for watching signals, etc.  Incidentally, the nose was actually clamshell doors that could be opened.  Fiberglass, IIRC.

work safe

 

See whatchamissing by not checking out "my other Thread"!?!?  Of course the idea is to ATTRACT NEW CUSTOMERS . . . Sigh [sigh]

 

Later!

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 15, 2007 11:52 AM

 

Good day Tom and all bar attendees. If it is too early, then pastries and strong coffee. If you want(need) something stronger, by all means have it on me. The usual for me.

      Eric: Thanks for the picture of the Dm3. That must be a breathtaking sight. Swedish engineering at it's best. The cabover was developed to shorten the tractor and therefore allow for longer trailers to be hauled (greater payload). My son was looking for a long snout Pete, but didn't realize at the time, the cabover was what he really needed. There is so much need for dump trucks and short supply down in Ms. We are still cleaning up and building after Katrina. One friend of his is making 20 grand a week hauling dirt and gravel. You may not consider yourself an expert, but you have driven those engines and I haven't even seen one in person, so as far as I'm concerned, you are the expert with more knowledge than any of us have. By operational, do you mean the UP Centennial is still in service? Nice pictures at the Arctic Circle. Does the snow require special snowplows or can the flangers on the engines handle it? Thanks for the class D pictures. I didn't know if I would see any interior shots and machinery layout, but I'm happy with them.

      Tom: I have always had many activities involving the use of my hands. Over the years, my interests have always been woodworking, metalworking, model trains, cooking, photography, music and armchair railroading. Very little time was available for other pursuits like sports. As I get older, I find that all my interests keep me busy. There's never a dull moment. I've known too many people lacking craft skills to sustain them in their twilight years and have died shortly after retirement or have gone back to work. I wish I had a bit more money to spend on my hobbies.

       Jan: Nice looking Di-3. The coldest weather I've worked in was when I worked at Mil Davie shipyard in Quebec in January and February. The temp was below zero most days and nights. It was so cold, snow didn't melt on the roads to turn to ice. You could drive 70mph on the snow pack and still keep control. Appreciate the LV pictures, especially the one of the F6 4-4-2 # 2476. Those spoked drivers are beautiful. Can you explain why the counterweight on the 2nd driver from the front on LV 4-8-4 T2 #5209 is larger than the rest? Quite a dialogue on the wreck of the ol 97. I'm impressed.

       Lars: Nice pictures of the steamers. By "diesels leave me cold", I mean the motion of the steamer's rods and gear combined with all it's sounds contribute to an experience not seen by any other mode of transportation. Some rod driven electrics also fill the bill. Diesels just don't have the sensory stimulation. I get choked up when I watch a video of steam locomotives in action. Diesels don't do that for me. I like the colors for the NYNH&H turbotrain the best.

       Pete: Great pictures of the Sierra Railway and the British big four, also the encore pictures. I haven't seen them before. The Algonquin frigates were built at the Mil Davie shipyard in Lauzon, Quebec. It was the second ship to carry the Algonquin name. The first served admirably during the 2nd world war and was scrapped shortly after the war ended. The latest Algonquin was built in 1981, converted to an anti-submarine destroyer and is home ported in BC.

       Allan: Yes, my son is very happy with his "Pete". While he's going big, I'm going small. I'm looking at some Japanese "micro" trucks here. They are all 4wd, "wrong" side steering, ½ ton capacity and cost anywhere from $2300 to $5000. It would be the perfect vehicle for me to get around on my 8 acres for maintenance purposes. The ground can sometimes get pretty muddy and a full size pickup can bog down easily.

       Fergie: Sorry about the Canadian navy/Coast Guard connection. I thought you were a private contractor, but of course the Coast Guard is a private entity not associated with the government. I was asking about Thanksgiving because here in the lower 48, it is more important than Christmas, at least to me. It means family get-to-gathers, lots of food and drink. We like it because it's much less commercial than Christmas.

        Per: Nice round of pictures for photo day. The KMI web site didn't list prices, so I must assume it's far out of reach for most. Thanks for the info on the "lollipops". I was going to leave them off as I didn't know what they were for. My 8 acres is mostly planted with trees. Only about 3 acres is available for a railroad. I hope I have enough time to do all that I want to do.

        Tom: Nice pictures from Alaska. That picture of Wasilla and all the rocks lying about reminds me of my day in California. Here in South Ms, there are NO rocks, only sand. Many years ago, Ms was under water. When the land emerged, only silt, mud and sand was left. You can imagine how much rock products cost here. They have to be trucked in from other states.

        To all: I have started construction on the wood version of the class D engine. I've built up the roof from 11 pieces of Radiata pine and cut out the sides. Most of the parts will be made from various hardwoods and some metal as well. I'm glad I have a CAD program on my computer. It saves me a tremendous amount of time and wasted material. I have detailed each part. It's just a matter of building it from the plan. Half the work is done. I'm taking pictures as I go for documentation purposes. Who knows, someone else may want to build one. For me, the most difficult part of this project is making the spoked wheels. Castings are out of the question due to cost. They are about $40 apiece and I need 6 big ones and 4 smaller ones. I may end up with wood wheels ( hard maple), since it will be in my museum.

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Posted by JanOlov on Monday, October 15, 2007 12:36 PM

Greetings Tom and fellow passengers on the Limited....

Extra cold Guinness and a top up with cigars for the lads please.....$$$$ for yourself...

Tom, stunning Alaska pics as always mate Yeah!! [yeah]Thumbs Up [tup].....I'm eagerly awaiting what will follow up....

EricX2000, nice pic of the OKB car Yeah!! [yeah]! Was just wondering since I can't remember seing any facilities in of locomotives that I've been up in. Any idea how it was/is on the locomotives across the pond?

Da Larsman, that is some great pics of the Turbo Train Yeah!! [yeah]. Reminds me of the train that SJ had, "Kamelen" or whatever it was called.

SJ Y-3.

SJ Y-3 cab

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SJ Yo1 in Gavle.

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SJ Y-8 in Gavle.

Interior of a Y-7.

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SJ X-9 in Herrljunga.

Interior of a X-9.

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SJ X8 in Trollhattan.

Photographer: Christian and Markus Stellerup

Credit: jarnvag.net

Sorry for the amount of pics but 1 goes with the other and makes it two which ic one was it??? Confused [%-)]

Hopes that everybody's buying it.....Whistling [:-^]

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Posted by JanOlov on Monday, October 15, 2007 1:20 PM

coalminer3,  I really look forward to your commentary mate Yeah!! [yeah]!

DD1, I'm in no way an expert on this, but I think that the counterweight on the second pair of drivers is larger because the mainrod is attached to those...

Which makes you wonder how they counterbalance Boxpok and Scullin drivers....

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Posted by Fergmiester on Monday, October 15, 2007 1:54 PM

Good Afternoon All And Tom... I says yous was asleep as, according to the crowd, it took two bucket to stir ya!!!

 

Well she's blowing 30kts out of the WNW and it's cold and definitely a Fall kinda day.

 

On that note I'll take a Big Mugg'a Java! It's Pizza night onboard so I'm taking it easy.

 

 marthastrainyard wrote:

Fergie (Fergmiester), I don't know what pigs you have in Canada, but to catch one in the morning and eat the ham in the afternoon; now come on!

 

Sure it's true. We have a breed of Pig up here that has been specially cultivated for our hostile environment. It's a much smaller sub-species that was developed during the Second World War by Agriculture Canada. It was a cross breed between the Standard North American Swine and the Flying Squirrel, which by the way is indigenous to Nova Scotia. It was hoped the experiment would cut down on the amount of wastage after a big meal, war rationing being what it was. Well the experiment never came to be, They were released into the woods. Don't really get too many sightings when they're on the ground. Let's just say you'll only catch one "When Pigs Fly"!

 

 Siberiamo wrote:

Fergie (Fergmiester) at 5:52 AM: The sailorman returneth! Great seeing you again ‘n figured that the comms blackout had something to do with the positioning of your vessel ‘n satellite comms. "Back in the day," we had no such things! I'm from the era of the telegrapher - where the radio shack was really radio! Anyway, good to have you aboard again!

Good to see you eating "light" this fine day! <grin>

What, huh, who poked me I wasn't sleeping - just resting my eyes!! <oooooooooh>

All the talk about conditions at sea makes me wanna sign on . . .

Hope the mission goes well ‘n you'll find your way to safe harbor (harbour) on schedule!

EatingLight?!? Not likely Last night it was Steak, Lobster and Shrimp and tonight Pizza... Man it's rough!

 lovesdomes wrote:

 

My Mrs. "discovered" that I was "idle," ‘n quickly found things for me to occupy myself! <groan> Hey Fergie! Any room on that ship of yours for a retired engineer <puleeeeze>

Between you and Cap'n Tom I'd make a killing in the cruise boat biz...

 Coalminer3 wrote:

Fergie - You got a good pick with the KC-CIN game.  Guardian is a good movie. My son saw it and made me get the DVD.  Let me guess, you do laps on the quarterdeck as certain famous persons did...

 

The only laps I do, is around the dinner plate! Lapping up all the gravy and such! Actually a good hard workout in the morning on the treadmill starts my day for about 450 calories worth.

 As far as projects not too much this month as I'm not really in the right frame of mood. I'm hoping I'll be back at it this winter and get some serious work done on the layout!

Well that' it for me!

Later All

Fergie

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Posted by pwolfe on Monday, October 15, 2007 4:53 PM

HI Tom and all.

Well RUTH the Oktoberfest went well SaturdayThumbs Up [tup] and it is good TOM was able to call in SundayApprove [^]. Free beer for me for a weekWow!! [wow], so a Bathams please. What is that list like a toilet rollQuestion [?],OH NO it's the till roll from Saturday, where I bought the drinks all nightShock [:O]. Oh Well looks like weeks of chandelling to pay for it.Sigh [sigh]

ERIC Thanks for the kind words on the photos.Thumbs Up [tup]

That is a very good question as to how many steam locos are working in the UK at the present, I think it must be in the high hundreds. I did find a web site in which the operator has found out about 2,800 steam locos in the UKWow!! [wow], at present, but it did not say how many were capable of being steamed. I guess this includes narrow gauge as well.

Thanks for the info on Nohab.Thumbs Up [tup] I don't know if there is a company in Britain that builds locomotives anymore,Sad [:(] I think that multiple units are still built there, perhaps DL can help.

I hope one of the regulars can help with the ditch light question on those Canadian diesels.Yeah!! [yeah]

Many thanks for the details and the link to the Grand Canyon Railroad.Thumbs Up [tup]

PER From the UK, I do not know a lot about earthquakes, except we are lucky not to get them in the UKYeah!! [yeah]. What did they do to that tunnel to make it useable again after the walls had shifted like that.Question [?]

The Science Museum also has the first Great Western Castle class locomotive No 4073 Caerphilly Castle and what is left of Stephenson's Rocket.

1973-1974 would be a good time at MaidenheadYeah!! [yeah]. It was a couple of years before the 125 High Speed Trains took over most of the GW passenger services. The main passenger trains would have been in the hands of the Western class diesel hydraulics, although the class 50 diesel electrics would have started working on the Western Region after their transfer from the West Coast Main Line with the electrification extension to Glasgow.

Also there was probably of few of the Hymeks still working around Maidenhead at that time.

I have found a link to the Westerns. I though they were very stylish looking dieselsApprove [^]

http://www.jboon.fsnet.co.uk/westerns/cl52work.html

Although I don't know a lot about aircraft, I must admit I got a lump in my throat when I watched a live broadcast of the last 3 Concordes in service landing at Heathrow.

I have some more photos of the Sierra Railway. We enjoyed our visit there very much.Thumbs Up [tup]

Have you got anymore info on the museum in Dallas, is it any where near the Amtrak station.Question [?]

Many thanks for the Grand Canyon Depot photosThumbs Up [tup]; they have some good locomotives.Approve [^]

JAN The bar is still looking great after your Saturday tidy -up,Bow [bow] even the track gang took their boots off to keep it cleanWow!! [wow]. Glad you enjoyed the photos.Thumbs Up [tup]

I have a couple of links, one about Peat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peat

And this one on a peat railway in Ireland.

http://www.narrow-gauge.co.uk/gallery/345

O.V.S. Bullied designed a steam locomotive that burnt peat as fuel.

Many thanks for those great photos of the very different types of SJ UnitsThumbs Up [tup]. I suppose the Yo1s were used on rural branch lines.Question [?]

LARS I guess I was lucky I was still logged on SaturdayThumbs Up [tup] as I did not know anything about it until I got the e-mails. I was able to get on the puter a bit more as it was a wet day here which stopped the outside choresSmile [:)], but only temporarily.Sad [:(]

Many thanks for the Turbo-Train photos.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]

CM3 Glad you liked the photosThumbs Up [tup]. The Great Western could make even their freight locomotives look goodApprove [^]. The look of their locomotives hardly changed since Churchwards days in the early 1900s.

I too would love to see BORIS"S version of " Paddy on the Railway"Wow!! [wow]

RON Many thanks for the details on the Algonquin FrigatesThumbs Up [tup].

Glad you enjoyed the photosThumbs Up [tup]. Nearly all the photos I posted quite a while back at the bar I accidentally erased from my Photobucket album so they no longer appear in my postsDunce [D)]Banged Head [banghead].

I still have not got a scanner yetAshamed [*^_^*] altho

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Posted by Gunneral on Monday, October 15, 2007 8:16 PM

Hi Tom and all,

Tui`s all round for the crew please Leon!Yeah!! [yeah]

Tom. That answer to the age query is 61!Whistling [:-^] Funny you mentioned Kuala Lumpur in your trip out to Malaya, we were stationed 40mls south of KL at Seremban no less! This was during the Malaysian/Indonesian Confrontation in the early 60`s, so we have been fairly close during our travels around the globe.Wow!! [wow] Enjoyed all your posts and the Denali Star pics and the other posts and pics, and the flicks choice was top notch, had the same problem as you had getting onto the site over the weekend.Confused [%-)]Thumbs Up [tup]

Pete. What a great win for England in the semi final, they are really fuming over here about it, and it`s becoming very puerile in the comments going around. At least Dad`s Army got a hellva lot further than the AB`s!Yeah!! [yeah] Those NCB lines were very busy with a lot of saddle tank loco`s hauling the coal to the staithes on the river Tyne, they seemed to be going 24/7 in those day`s. Enjoyed all your posts and thank Alan for all his pics for me.Wow!! [wow]Thumbs Up [tup]

Eric. That bridge pic in the poster Tom posted on the East Coast main line looks like the one at Durham city, county seat of County Durham, my wife`s home county, you will find a photo of it here;

          http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/69665

Hope you are able to find some venison sausages over there, I do`nt get that guilty feeling when my specialist asks me about how my diets going!Whistling [:-^]Thumbs Up [tup]

Per. We just had another quake down south this morning 6.7 with an after shock of 6.2, we did`nt feel it up here in Hawkes Bay but it was felt in the lower North Island. Wish the N gauge Mountain came with sound as well, my mate has a Broadway SP cab foreward and it sounds fantastic, he has got the doppler effect off pat now and it sounds just like the real thing!Wow!! [wow]Thumbs Up [tup]

Lars. Nice pics of the Turbo Train mate, and I am keeping an eye on your`s and Tom`s pics on the other site too, see CM3 was on there as well just lately. How are the Mets doing?Confused [%-)] Is it safe to mention them again yet?Question [?]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Ron. We do`nt have that driving on the wrong side problem over here at all, we drive R hand drive like the UK and Japan, at the moment we have a Nissan Sunny [Sentra] and it`s a very reliable and economical car, does around 42mls to the gallon [UK] when converted from litres per 100km, easy on the budget!Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Jan. Enjoyed all your posts mate, great LV steamer`s and nice series of photos`of Swedish railways, those railcars look very like the one`s they used to run in southern Ireland. I must congratulate you on how bright the place looks now after all your elbow grease!Cool [8D]Thumbs Up [tup]

CM3. Enjoying all the info on your posts.Yeah!! [yeah]Thumbs Up [tup]

Fergie. Still wondering if you have been involved with the charting of the North West passage at all, we had a news item here showing one of your CG ships working up there?Thumbs Up [tup]

See ya,  Allan

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Posted by EricX2000 on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:21 AM

Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Leon, my friend, I think this is the right time for a Sugar Cured Ham Sandwich. On rye! No, no, I don't want any tomato slices.

A pretty busy Monday here! Just 213 days until the 3rd Annual Rendezvous!

Tom –  If that Swedish car is sitting on a siding you should hook it up to some HEP to keep the battery charged and keep it warm now when the winter is coming!Wink [;)]

A lot of people believe that the Peace Prize is awarded after discussions between Oslo and Stockholm, but that is not the case. No big deal though.

I have studied the Al-Can Highway for a long time.Smile [:)] Every few years I buy this annual book, Milepost (I think that is the name of it) where one can find all the info needed to travel the Al-Can.Yeah!! [yeah]

Lars –  Snakes were swept! Not a chance with that kind of baseball.Grumpy [|(]

Interesting pictures of an interesting train, the TurboTrain.Thumbs Up [tup] Certainly not beautiful, but different from several points of view. Looks kind of like a submarine on land.Wink [;)]

CM3 –  You are right, the Rockies didn’t make any mistakes. Swept Snakes without any problems. D’Backs tried to catch up in the 8th inning but it didn’t work.Banged Head [banghead] 

Ron –  Nowadays the length of the tractor is not included when the total length of a tractor- trailer is decided. Unless some states have their own rules.Question [?] I don’t remember when this was changed.

UP has one Centennial left, #6936, of the 47 that were built. It is mostly used for special trains but once in a while it can be seen in a freight train.Smile [:)]

The locomotives in the northern part of Sweden usually have just regular flangers for the snow. But they also have espcially equipped locomotives with snowplows in case there is a blizzard or something.

 

 

For deep snow!



About the Class D loco. Do you have the right size for the wheels? Axle 1 and 5 diameter is 980 mm. The drivers, Ø1,530 mm.

JanOlov –  Pictures of some older equipment.Thumbs Up [tup] They are all retired by now. The first one, Kamelen (the Camel), was built in Germany 1966-67. The rest were all built in Sweden.

Fergie –  Interesting breed of pig you have up there!Wink [;)] What altitude do they reach when flying?

Pete –  2,800 steam locos? Wow! The whole island may sink with all that weight!Wink [;)]

Your guess about how SJ Class Yo1 was used is correct! When I was a kid/teenager one could still see them in service. Smile [:)]

Allan –  I think you are right about the viaduct! Thumbs Up [tup]Looks very much like the one in the poster! Thanks for the info and link!Smile [:)]

 

 

Eric
 

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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 7:01 AM

<personal foto>

Guten Morgen allerseits!

Wie ist jeder? Es is OKTOBERFEST! Partei wollen wir!

 

 

 

Comments from the Proprietor:

OKTOBERFEST at "Our" Place every October Saturday at noon!

 

Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative)

 

Monday - Oct 15th:

 

Lars (LoveDomes) at 8:32 AM: Glad your absence was only a brief one - you needed a weekend OFF! <grin> Don't even try to figger it out . . .

Appreciated your dissertation on the 2nd generation American thinking . . . I'm in the same category and feel precisely the same way! My grandfathers from the old country were very intent on melding into the ways of the new country. Don't even get me started on this "press 1 for English . . . . " <arrrrrrrgggggghhhhhh>

Great TurboTrain fotos . . . inspired me to put something together for Posting a bit later on!

Giants WON! Yeah!! [yeah] The St. Louis Lambs <aka: Rams> are toast - burnt at that! <groan> Zero ‘n Six is totally embarrassing ‘n I wonder if these guys accept their paychecks while walking backwards in the pay line Question [?] Terrible.

Blues are doing quite well for a bunch of youngsters. New leadership has the team perking . . . let's see how it goes by mid-season. Yeah!! [yeah]

Appreciate the visit, chat ‘n Pix! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 9:10 AM: "Spotlighting the sports in the sportlight spotlight," yeah, right! Wow!! [wow] You do come up with some Jim Dandy lead-ins . . . Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

BoSox lost! BoSox lost! BoSox lost! Looks like there's a competition going on in the AL playoffs, which ain't all that bad . . .

Quarters, chat, round ‘n all around good stuff always appreciated from our WVA Connection! Thumbs Up [tup] Also, thanx for supporting "my other Thread"!! That info you put forth on the TurboTrain was worth repeating over here - so I did! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

Ron (DD1) at 11:52 AM: If I have a goal in retired life it is this: I served 32 years of active duty - I figure that by living another 32 after retirement will pretty much make up for those lean years when the salary was something quite laughable stacked up against my civilian counterparts. So, I've been retired for 19 years - 13 more to go! Yeah!! [yeah]

We just gotta get you onboard, Mate! You said

Fergie: Sorry about the Canadian navy/Coast Guard connection. I thought you were a private contractor, but of course the Coast Guard is a private entity not associated with the government.

Now here's the SCOOP - since Fergie didn't "jump on it" - the CCG is NOT a private entity - it is a government organization, just NOT military. I think I need a triple belt of JD . . . on Ron of course! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

A very informative, interesting ‘n inclusive Post from our Resident Southern Gentleman from Mississippi <aka: transplanted New YAWKER!!> Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Round appreciated! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

Jan (JanOlov) at 12:36 PM & 1:20 PM: Pix from a guy who can't count to SIX!

Interesting spate of Swedish passenger trains . . . Thumbs Up [tup]

Thanx for the visits, round, etc. . . . Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

Fergie (Fergmiester) at 1:54 PM: A cross between the swine ‘n flying squirrel?!!?!? Indeed! Methinks you've been too much into the grog, Mate! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Can't speak for the Larsman - for I'm not at all interested in a "cruise ship" environment. I wouldn't sign-on unless there was meaningful work for me to do! After all, a mariner is a mariner is a . . . <grin>

Can't remember the last time we've seen you in the early afternoon - but we take what we gets at the Bar by the Ballast ‘n you are always welcome!

Next time - buy the boyz a drink, willya Question [?] <ka-ching> <ka-ching>

 

 

Pete (pwofle) at 4:53 PM: Congratulations on making the 2,500th Post at our reborn bar! Since you already have free drinks for the week - you may add food to it as well! Thumbs Up [tup] Bow [bow] Yeah!! [yeah] Wow!! [wow] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Also, that keg of your favorite brew is on the back patio - Boris said he'd load it into your vehicle whenever you're ready! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Thanx for the link to the Westerns - fine looking machines! Yeah!! [yeah]

Not sure I'm following your thinking - as I read it, the Kalmbach maintenance has already impacted a couple of us at the bar ‘n it's done - for now.

No problem about the "monthly," at least YOU remembered we have one! Smile,Wink,<div style=

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Posted by JanOlov on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 7:49 AM

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Greetings Tom and fellow bar controllants.....

May I have the usual extra cold Guinness, top up with cigars for the boys please? $$$$ for yourself as well....

pwolfe, so that's why all those shoes are sitting at the door then.... Indeed they were mate, as well as the Y-6, Y-7 etc. etc.

Thanks for the link!

Gunneral,  well, as they say on one of the American train videos my dad used to have, probably now sold to Michael, one of my best friends, a clean train is a good train....a guy's walking on logg cars pulled by a Shay.....sweeping.

After all that work, my arm are just haning along the sides.....can I have a straw with my guinness please? I don't think that I can lift the pint right now....Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]Laugh [(-D]

EricX2000, NICE rotary my good man Yeah!! [yeah]

Tom, but, but, but I thought.....never mind....Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]Laugh [(-D] Anyhoo, I thought that the ones with interiors which were two, would count as one, so instead for eight you'd have five which is less then six even if there's more six pics.....oh dear headache again Confused [%-)] Back to the school desk I guess....Dunce [D)]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]

Here's one more golden oldie.....

UB7X 3951+X7 222 in Delsbo 1989.

Photographer: Christian Tellerup.

Interior X7 222 1989.

Photographer: Christian Tellerup.

Credit: Jarnvag.net

Two questions.....

1. Was Milwaukee Road the only railroad with different rotaries? Standard rotaries which were used whenever the snowfall was too haevy for wedge plows. If the problems were slides they brought out the "Slide Rotaries" which had fewer blades on their plow wheels, but the blades were more ruggedly built in order to effectively chew up trees and rocks...

2. Somewhere I've seen a picture of statue from one of the larger stations, a statue which is an angel with wings spread upwards holding a dead WWII soldier (I think) in his arms and ready to fly....

Does anyone of have a picture of this statue? I've seen it in one of my books, but of course NOT in anyone that I have here....which station is the statue to be found in?

Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket All the best! Jan
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Posted by Fergmiester on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 8:08 AM

Busy Place this Morning

 

G'day Tom and Sundry!

Coffee, Bagel with cream cheese and Smoked Salmon please and go easy on the bagel! 

 Gunneral wrote:

Fergie. Still wondering if you have been involved with the charting of the North West passage at all, we had a news item here showing one of your CG ships working up there?Thumbs Up [tup]

Sorry Allan not this one this is more off the Continental Shelf and the Labrador Basin measuring Salinity Temperature variances, plankton counts and other varied tests. We are measuring yearly changes and variances in the ocean environment.

 

I've been involved in Surveys up Labrador and Hudson Bay, Science in the Beaufort and re-supply most everywhere else in the Arctic. The Canadian Coast Guard usually has a minimum of seven ships in the Arctic from June to November every year.

 

Hudson had been scheduled for Research up in the Passage in September but we had problems with one of the cranes.

 

 

 EricX2000 wrote:


Fergie -  Interesting breed of pig you have up there!Wink [;)] What altitude do they reach when flying?

Well let's just say they use the ground effect more than the drafting. Good thing too. Can you imagine the collateral damage one of those things could do at 10,000' ? In a Pig's eye you say! Better the pig than I. Fortunately during the cross breeding experiments it was found the curly tail of the pig was causing the beasts to cork screw themselves into the ground during take off so the pig being the intelligent critter it is doesn't like to fly.

 siberianmo wrote:

Fergie (Fergmiester) at 1:54 PM: A cross between the swine ‘n flying squirrel?!!?!? Indeed! Methinks you've been too much into the grog, Mate! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Can't fly on one wing you know!

 

 siberianmo wrote:

We just gotta get you onboard, Mate! You said

Fergie: Sorry about the Canadian navy/Coast Guard connection. I thought you were a private contractor, but of course the Coast Guard is a private entity not associated with the government.

Now here's the SCOOP - since Fergie didn't "jump on it" - the CCG is NOT a private entity - it is a government organization, just NOT military. I think I need a triple belt of JD . . . on Ron of course! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Actually... Like the Royal Canadian Mounted Police we are known as a SOA, a Special Operating Agency, which falls under the jurisdiction of the Department of Fisheries and Oceans. We also come under the umbrella of Homeland Security. CCG was formed in 1962 and was the culmination of 48 different government organizations, which operated vessels of all sorts of shapes and sizes and carried out a multitude of tasks. The largest organization that was part of this mix was the Canadian Government Service Fleet. This consisted of the Icebreakers and Buoytenders and Arctic Re-supply vessels. What wasn't taken in was the Science and Fisheries patrol fleets. This would not happen until 1996.Originall CCG was under the Transport Canada banner but with the last amalgamation the powers to be decided to transfer all of the organization to DFO. As far as us being a military organization no, however Officers do have powers of enforcement and seizure with regards to Pollution spills and the Fishery patrol vessels do carry armed Fishery Officers.

We are also in the process of building six armed mid-range Patrol vessels that will be armed.

In short we are a hybrid of a sort.  

Anyway that's my story for the day

Later All

Fergie

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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 8:13 AM

Now Arriving on Track #1

Back in the Day - Number Four

The TurboTrain - Part I of II

 

Used with permission from: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Formatting differences made necessary due to Forums requirements. Accuracy of content NOT authenticated.

 

The UAC TurboTrain was an early high-speed train manufactured by United Aircraft Corporation that operated in Canada between 1968 and 1982 and in the United States between 1968 and 1976 (though they were not disposed of by Amtrak until 1980). It was one of the first gas turbine-electric locomotives (GTELs) to enter service for passenger traffic, and was also one of the first tilting trains to enter service.

 

The Turbo is shown here in its original Canadian National livery in 1973, westbound from Montréal enroute to Toronto. <Fair Use - Wikipedia.com>

 

Description

The design had origins in studies done by the Chesapeake and Ohio Railway in the 1950s. These early studies did not include turbine power, but included a number of innovative design features for high-speed passenger service, including guided-axle tilting suspension, power cars at both ends, and the clamshell nose doors for combining locomotives to form longer trains.

The tilting mechanism was based on the passenger cars being suspended at their ends from wishbone (A-frame) suspension arms. As the train rounded a corner, the cars would swing outward to level the car floor in relation to the apparent "down". TurboTrain cars are 2 ½ feet (75 cm) lower than conventional cars, to lower the center of gravity in relation to the swinging point at the top of the arms. The arms included air springs to smooth out the motion, although it still felt "odd" while the train navigated short turns in switchyards and stations.

The suspension arms for each neighboring pair of cars were attached to a common bogie between them, as opposed to having a pair separate bogies for each car. The bogies rode the common curve between the two cars, centered by traction springs that centered the axle between adjoining car bodies. As the cars shared a single suspension, the train as a whole was a fixed length, requiring major work to add or remove passenger cars. This was the purpose of the doors at the ends of the power cars, which allowed two such trains to be "combined" end-to-end into a single longer train with a walkway between them protected by a flexible connector.

The patents were later implemented by United Aircraft to satisfy requirements of the Department of Transportation's Northeast Corridor Demonstration Project. Most of the original design survived, but UA added turbine power in place of the original diesel. The engines were a modified version of the famous Pratt & Whitney PT-6, built by UAC and known as the ST-6 (apparently for stationary turbine). The engine delivered 400 or 500 horsepower and drove an alternator though a hydraulic transmission system with gear reducers. A 3rd rail pickup assembly (a friction guide slipping on a third track) allowed the train to operate in the tunnels leading to Grand Central Station (and later Penn Station) in New York City with the engines turned off.

The engine was so much smaller and lighter (300 pounds (135 kg) with accessories) than the diesels they replaced that the power cars would have ended up being relatively small in comparison to the passenger cars. This "extra space" was utilized by extending the locomotives out to be somewhat longer than the passenger cars, placing the engines under a dome containing the driving controls and additional seating. The rear area of the resulting "Power Dome Cars" was similar to one-half of the normal passenger cars.

Production and use

In May 1966 Canadian National Railways ordered five TurboTrains of seven cars each for the Montreal-Toronto service. The Canadian trains were built by Montreal Locomotive Works, with their ST-6 engines supplied by UAC's Canadian division (now Pratt & Whitney Canada) in Longueuil, Québec on Montréal southshore. They originally planned to operate the trains in tandem, connecting two trains together into a larger fourteen-car arrangement with a total capacity of 644 passengers. While the trains were being built they changed their plans, and in 1971 a rebuild program was put into effect, converting the five seven-car sets to three nine-car sets. The leftover power and passenger cars were sold to Amtrak as two 4-car sets. One of those sets sideswiped a freight train on a test run in 1973 and burned up before delivery.

The Turbo's first demonstration run in December 1968 with Conductor James.A. (Jim) Abbey of Toronto, Ontario in command, included a large press and electronic media contingent. Unfortunately, the Turbo hit a truck at a level crossing outside of Kingston during

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Posted by LoveDomes on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 9:37 AM

Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!

Ruth my deAH, just a mugga Joe with a jolt - make it a double - if you please! And the usual for the gang at the bar, on the Manager of course - ring the bell, Boris! Thumbs Up [tup] Keep the change my sweet! <blush>

CrittAHs are lined up ‘n waiting to be fed, so get with it, mate - then that small jar of PPF is YOURS! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Was going to lead in with my JINTS WON! JINTS WON! JINTS WON! But figgered some of youse guyz would be bored by it! Anyway, JINTS WON! JINTS WON! JINTS WON! <grin>

Great way to start off things ‘round here with a ‘special' from Da Bossman - nice work with the Turbo Train feature! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Those two pix provide a great supplement to those posted yesterday! Yeah!! [yeah] Also appreciated the comments from CM3 I'm NOT Shane, both on your "other" site ‘n here at the bar regarding the Turbo. Where ELSE could one expect to be cut in on such timely ‘n meaningful "stuff"?? ONLY at the Watering Hole by the Wayside - only here! Thumbs Up [tup]

On the comments about our monthly anniversary "celebrations" - let me say this about that <a JFK quote!!> anyway . . .

I figure that between you ‘n me, we'll not forget the 12th of the month. However, my "thing" is I'm not a babysitter at this place ‘n if the guys aren't interested in keeping the thing going - neither am I. Anyway, it's been a long, long time since we actually celebrated ‘n perhaps it's best kept that way. Figured the annual ‘n semi-annuals would be enough. BUT then the guys totally blew of the semi (our 30th month) that took place this past Friday. Golly gee, gosh ‘n shucks! <grin>

 

 

CONGRATULATIONS to Wolfman Pete for making the 2,500th submission at the "new" bar! Seems like the "counting" is a bit "fast," for wasn't it "just the other day" that 2,400 was reached by Jan ????? Seems so . . . . But, glad to see that one of our regulars was so recognized for the achievement! Yeah!! [yeah] Now, get to work in order to PAY that bar tab!!! <uh oh>

Hey Fergie! Was that rendition of yours a Canadianism for trying to please everyone??? You're either government or you're not! My reading says you are a G-man! I mean who puts out your pay checks? Surely isn't Canadian Tire!! <grin> Anyway, learned something new - didn't know youse guyz are now into enforcement. Probably not a bad idea - but remember, the muzzle gets pointed to where the bad guys are! <grin>

Tomorrow - WEDNESDAY - is our optional Toy & Model Trains Day at the bar, so we're looking for something good from YOU!!! Yeah!! [yeah]

Cruise Ship?? No thanks, no way no how. I'm like Cap'n Tom in that respect - next time I go to sea, it will be aboard something far smaller ‘n more in line with what I believe ships are all about. Floating hotel, casino ‘n banquet centers - nahhhhhhhhh! I'll take my turn below decks thank you very much - I believe my licenses are still in order for international requirements. Thumbs Up [tup]

Hey CM3 I'm NOT Shane! The Indians are looking like they won't be rolling over for anyone. Like to see that kinda thing come playoff time. Sorry, Shane - but I'm NOT a Boston fan (figgered that out, huh Question [?]) BUT do think they have the BEST team in both leagues. BUT, we all know that the playoffs are another "thing" - get hot in the tournament ‘n that's all she wrote! Cardinals from last year proved that point much to the delight of our Proprietor! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Many thanks for supplementing my Turbo shots with some background info . . . nice! Thumbs Up [tup]

Hey Eric! Look at it this way, mate - Reptiles don't belong in those frigid temps in Denver much less Boston or Cleveland. Come World Series time, who knows what the conditions in either of the AL parks will be like. So, they are bettAH off basking in the baking sun of Phoenix! <yikes>

Hey Allan! Mets Question [?] Oh yeah, it's ok to talk about ‘em now. Their season ended when they got eliminated from the playoffs a couple of weeks back. So, next time you'll see anything from me will be in the spring of 2008 - when the new season starts.

Another quake in Kiwi land I heard! Didn't feel a thing here though . . . <grin> Good to know all's ok for you ‘n the Mrs. Thumbs Up [tup]

Really "dig" that viaduct photo on the link! Looks to me as if a lot of pride in workmanship went into constructing it. Nice! Thumbs Up [tup]

Hey Jan! Continuing on with some great looking pix of Swedish passenger trains! Thumbs Up [tup] Always find it interesting to note just how many "different" types of cars ‘n locos e

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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:46 PM

Now Arriving on Track #1

Back in the Day - Number Five

The TurboTrain - Part II of II

 

CAVEAT: From: http://www.sikorskyarchives.com/train.html-  No prohibitions for free use found - no intent to misuse or otherwise profit from use. Formatting differences made necessary due to Forums requirements.

 

 

DESCRIPTION

A sleek, new lightweight passenger train, the Turbo-Train, enters service in 1968 in the United States and Canada. The TurboTrain is lighter, faster, quieter, smoother and more reliable than conventional trains -and cheaper to run. The TurboTrain, conceived on aerodynamic principles, and powered by aircraft-type gas turbine engines, was designed by United Aircraft Corpo-ration. It is being developed and marketed by Surface Transportation Systems, Sikorsky Aircraft Division.

 

 

The TurboTrain, built in lengths ranging from 3 to 9 cars per train, has a streamlined, airplane-like exterior designed to minimize drag, with a skin of smooth, heavy -gauge aluminum. A domed, passenger-carrying power car is at each end, one pulling and the other pushing one or more passenger coaches in between. The trains, being double-ended, need no switching or turnarounds, permitting a higher rate of equipment utilization.

TurboTrain cars are 2 1/2 feet lower than conventional cars. The lower center of gravity, pendulous suspension system, and guided axles enable this new train to round curves, with no change in present road beds, at speeds up to 40 percent greater than possible with conventional trains. As in an airplane, TurboTrain cars bank inward around curves under the influence of centrifugal force, as opposed to the outward motion experienced in con-ventional trains. Passengers remain upright in their seats even when rounding curves at advanced speeds. By means of guidance assemblies, the axles - one between each pair of cars - are steered around curves, reduc-ing flange wear and the tendency to shimmy. The result is a smoother, swifter, more efficient ride around curves, with greater passenger comfort. The capacity of the cars depends on the seating arrangements and furnish-ings specified by the operating railroad. A typical power dome car, with parlor and coach compartments, has room for about 50 persons. Non-powered coaches seat about the same number.

 

 

The TurboTrain is a modern, streamlined, high-speed intercity passenger train designed by aerospace engineers and based on the principles of flight.

Powered by aircraft-type gas turbine engines, it was designed to provide comfortable, high performance service on existing railroad trackage.

The train is in regular, scheduled intercity passenger service and is the only new non-electrified intercity passenger train to reach operational status in the United States in the Past 15 years

 

 

SPECIAL FEATURES

The TurboTrain has a number of advanced technical features. Key among them are utilization of an aircraft-type gas turbine engine for power and a pendulous banking suspension system.

 

 

Inside the cars, the layout and decor were designed for maximum passenger comfort. There are carpeting and draperies, soft, indirect lighting, individually controlled reading lights at each seat, fold-down tables, reclining seats with head rests, and carry-on luggage racks at the doors. Compact but fully equipped galleys are installed for fast, efficient food service.

Electric heat and air conditioning add to passengers comfort aboard the TurboTrain. The cars are slightly pressurized to keep out dust and to keep the noise level lower.

 

 

The gas turbine powerplant is utilized in more than 20 types of aircraft and a number of non-aviation applications. In the train, the turbine's shaft drives gears instead of propellers. The gears turn the train's wheels. The gas turbine, the ST6, is produced by United Aircraft of Canada Limited. It is operated at 400 horsepower, yet weighs only 300 pounds with accessories. The number of engines used in each train varies according to perfor mance desired. Each train has bays for up to seven engines but fewer can be used. More engines give faster acceleration and a higher top speed. In each train, one gas turbine is always used to drive an alternator to produce electricity for the train's needs. Since the gas turbines are so small and compact, they are located under passenger-carrying domes, thus permitting complete utilization of the train's interior. Dome cars are located at each end of the TurboTrain to give it bi-directional capability.

 

 

A major technological advance in the TurboTrain is its pendulous banking suspension system. The trains are suspended from near the top of the cars, above the center of gravity, on an A-frame type of assembly. The suspension system is located between the cars, except in the power dome cars. There it is located beneath the domes. The suspension system causes the train to bank inward around curves under the influence of centrifugal force, as opposed to the outward motion experienced by conventional trains. This enables the train to round curves with passenger comfort and safety at speeds 30 to 40 per cent faster than conventional trains.

This feature, plus faster acceleration and higher cruising speeds of the TurboTrains, permits significant reduction of trip times between cities, compared with conventional equipment.

The TurboTrain was operated at a speed of 170 miles an hour on the U.S. Department's high speed test track on the Penn Central's main-line between Trenton and New Brunswick, New Jersey. In revenue service, it is operated in some stretches at speeds of more than 100 miles an hour. The speed at which the train can be operated depends upon the condition of the track, the number of grade crossings and the type and condition of the signal system.

SPEED

The TurboTrain can travel at speeds up to 170 mph but initial top speeds in passenger-carrying service this year will be about 120 mph.

Under present schedules, the best rail time offered between Boston and New York is 4 hours and 15 minutes; between New York and Washington, 3 hours and 35 min-utes; between Hartford and New York, 2 hours and 20 minutes. United Aircraft's TurboTrain can reduce these times, respectively, to 3 hours, 15 minutes (with four intermediate stops); 2 hours and 36 minutes; 1 hour and 40 minutes. Performances were calculated through detailed studies, made

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Posted by coalminer3 on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 3:00 PM

Good Afternoon Barkeep and all present; coffee, please; round for the house; $ for the jukebox.  Have been in computer class all day so I am running late.  Boris had to turn me upside down to empty out some of the "old knowledge" so I could fit "new Knowledge" in.  Sorta like Jethro going to "Ox-ford."

Interesting maritime discussions today.  "If you're going to talk like sailors, you're going to work like sailors."  One of my all-time favorite lines from Spongebob.

DD1 stopped by with lots of comments.

Also good to hear from Jan, Fergie, and Allan.

Pete and Dl visited with information as well.

Eric - The Red Sox-Indians game last night was a study in psychology.  See my note to Lars below.  Condolences to the Snakes, but when you get a team like Colorado on a hot streak, it's awful hard to stop ‘em, let alone slow ‘em down.

Lars sent along all sorts of reading materials and observations.  I have no problem with people not being Red Sox fans, but both of us are Giants fans - any Knick left that hasn't eaten its way through the cans? 

We'll hoist a couple to Y.A. and Charlie Conerly, and maybe an extra for Roosevelt Brown, and for Big Sam.  Awhile back my youngest did a report on Sam Huff for WV History class; she asked me if I remembered him - I was good for about an hour of stories - you know you're getting old when you're an historical resource.   

I got a kick out of what Old Eli said, "We'd like to see Plaxico at practice, but maybe it's better if he stays away."  At any rate it hasn't seemed to hurt him.  Better stop before we get escorted out.  Those Dallas fans just don't understand (lol). 

BTW, I knew Red Sox were in a world of hurt when they loaded the bases, no out, INTHE FIRST INNING, and came away empty.  They had absolutely no patience at the bat. 

OSP provided a copious compendium of turboiana.  Thanks for assembling and sharing.  The interior was much more Spartan than the drawings indicate.  It was also much more cramped than the picture suggested.  Those of you who ever had the joy of making a long-haul flight on a Caravelle, well, remember how "much" room there was on that aircraft and you'll get the idea.  I will try and post tomorrow but it will not be until the afternoon as we have fun instructional activities scheduled.

Work safe

 

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Posted by pwolfe on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 4:46 PM

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams and a snack from the cabinet please RUTH.Thumbs Up [tup]

ALLAN I would not have thought that those in NZ would have preferred a French win,Confused [%-)] I think those in England would not have minded an AB win if we had not reached the final.

I could not get the semi-final match liveSad [:(], on the Internet even tried Radio NZ but they did not have it on.Sigh [sigh]

It was probably the sound of the shunting in the yards at Rugby, that went on 24/7, all steam at the house I first lived at that gave me my love of railways. The house, which was my grandfather's, was a couple of houses away from the yards.Approve [^]

It is sad to think of how many railways that served coal mines, power stations and large manufacturers etc, that was around in 1950s and 60s are now just a memorySad [:(]. The factory I worked at had a large internal railway system, which lasted to the 1980s;Thumbs Up [tup] it had been worked by diesels for quite a few years before I was there.

There is a good scene of Durham Viaduct in the BTF film of The Elizabethan I got on DVD recently.Yeah!! [yeah]

Glad you enjoyed the photos.Thumbs Up [tup]

Keep safe from those quakes.Yeah!! [yeah]

ERIC Does the UP ‘Centennial' do much work in your area.Question [?] When the UP heritage cars visited here on a rail safety visit I was hoping it would be one of the heritage diesels hauling it but it was just two normal road units.Sad [:(]

Just think how many steam locos there were in the UK during the hayday of railwaysWow!! [wow].

In the Railway Magazine recently there was an article in which some researchers have tried to find out how many steam locomotives were constructed worldwide. I will have to find it.

JAN Glad you liked the link.Thumbs Up [tup]

The UB7X looks an interesting unitYeah!! [yeah] have you any more info on itQuestion [?].

I seem to recall seeing a photo of that statue in your question 2, but I cannot remember where. No doubt one of the regulars will know.

LARS Many thanks for the congratulationsThumbs Up [tup]; it does indeed seem only yesterday that Jan posted the 2,400th post.

You are right there is something special about a steam locomotive when it is movingYeah!! [yeah]. Listening to the radio commentary on the Shrewsbury soccer match on Saturday, the crowd gave out a loud cheer, the commentator said it was for a steam special passing the groundApprove [^], even folks not at all interested in railways love to see them Thumbs Up [tup]

Great book covers and photosApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. Imagine a day watching the Big-Boys climbing Sherman Hill with heavy freight trainsWow!! [wow], and the feeling of excitement when taking a new class of locomotive, like the SP Daylight out on its first trail run, seeing what it could do.Yeah!! [yeah]

Thanks for sharing.Thumbs Up [tup]

CM3 Do you think the passengers thought about the Turbos compared to the traditional trainsQuestion [?].    

TOM I had not realized that I had reached the 2,500th milestoneShock [:O],2,500, posts  is a great achievement for the barYeah!! [yeah], especially as the posts at the bar are still of such great qualityApprove [^]. Bow [bow]To all.

The only thing I was a bit worried about the site ‘maintenance', apart from missing Lars and you,Sad [:(] was that it would change the format of the site (again)Thumbs Down [tdn].

Many railfans in the UK consider the ‘Westerns' to be the best looking diesels than ran in the UK; they certainly had style to them. I suppose they were the last locomotives that were purely of Great Western/ Western Region origin.

Very interesting ‘Back in the Day' on the Turbo Train Parts I and IIThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]. Another great attempt at making a turbine the prime mover for rail transportYeah!! [yeah]. The engines seem remarkably lightweight at 300 pounds for 400HPWow!! [wow]. I see the turbo ran in service in Canada for nine years, which is a lot better than some other novel designs, and it says a lot that the designs innovations used on the Turbo are now in use on High Speeds Trains today, like the TGV. I suppose at time it they introduced; it was a hard time for passenger travel on the railroadsQuestion [?]

Thanks for sharingBow [bow].

Some more photos from  Railtown 1897 at Jamestown. If you ever go there I&nbs

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Posted by EricX2000 on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:43 AM

Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Hi Leon! I think a Patty Melt would be just perfect! 

Time to sit down and see what happened here at "Our" Place this nice Tuesday.

Tom –  All future Rendezvous in St. Louis? Hmmm, then you better find the brunette from Hooters! I am glad to hear that you have “shore ties” enough at CanAm Union Station in case that would happen and more cars are arriving.Wink [;)]

I have seen the program about building the Al-Can Highway on the History Channel a few times. Very interesting! I have been “planning” that trip for more than 20 years now. Smile [:)]

You never know when you will need that rotary! Considering all the extreme weather nowadays you might need it next week.Wink [;)]

Thanks for a very interesting articles on the TurboTrain!Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup] I did not know it had tilting cars even though the tilting isn't active. More like the Spanish Talgo. As I said (wrote) yesterday, it looks like a submarine on land. Smile [:)]

JanOlov –  The angel statue with a dead soldier, are you thinking of 30th Street Station in Philadelphia? See picture on link below.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/moocat/254468897/

Looking for something else I found that there was 70 Railroad Company-Shop Builders building 13,000 steam locomotives in the USA 1831-1950.

Fergie –  Glad to hear that those flying pigs mostly travel on the ground! 10,000’ up there could be a problem and even more so at 30,000’. That is the altitude I am  usually traveling at over your (and the pigs) part of the world, going to and from the old country. Wink [;)]

Lars –  Baking in the sun? No, I don’t do those kind of things. But I like the warm weather, Saturday it is supposed to get up to 96° or higher.Smile [:)]

Three interesting pictures mixed with book covers and videos! I wish I had a picture of a Big Boy in operation! Static displays are okay, but nothing beats working locomotives! Thanks!Thumbs Up [tup]

CM3 –  I like that statement, “You know you are old when you’re a historical resource!”Yeah!! [yeah] So true!Wink [;)]

I thought for a little while that the Snakes were going to come back in the game Monday night, but no.Grumpy [|(]

Pete –  Congratulations to the 2,500th post!!Bow [bow]Bow [bow]

No, the Centennial has never been in this area as far as I know. With only one left I don’t think it is likely it ever will come this way.

The Control stand in a Centennial.


I found some info on how many steam locomotives that was built in the USA 1831 - 1950, 175,000!  See link below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_locomotive_production

Interesting pictures from Railtown!!Thumbs Up [tup] In a way it is nicer to see the locomotives in a shed like that than inside a fancy, super clean, building. The locomotives in your pictures look like they will be back in service soon! Smile [:)]

 

 

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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 6:48 AM

<personal foto>

 

Wednesday's Witticism

A man can learn a heap of things if he keeps his ears washed.

 

Guten Morgen allerseits!

Wie ist jeder? Es is OKTOBERFEST! Partei wollen wir!

Mid-week in mid-continent USA where petrol remains at $2.48 (rounded) ‘n the days have been comfortable with the evenings ‘n mornings even better! Yeah!! [yeah]

Time again for a<light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board, pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n a mugga freshly ground ‘n brewed coffee! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

Comments from the Proprietor:

 

Today is our OPTIONAL Toy ‘n Model Trains Day! <smoke ‘em if you got ‘em!!> Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

 

OKTOBERFEST at "Our" Place every October Saturday at noon!

 

Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative)

Tuesday - Oct 16th:

Jan (JanOlov) at 7:49 AM: Fine looking fotos - thought provoking questions. We'll see if you get any "bites."

Appreciate your business <ka-ching> <ka-ching>

 

 

Fergie (Fergmiester) at 8:08 AM: All kinds of commentary ‘n inserts from our Maritime Canada Canadian Mariner Connection! <grin>

Are Salmon still being fished Question [?] Hmmmmmmm.

Hope to see something more from your fine model RR today!! Yeah!! [yeah]

Good to see ya - ‘n still waiting for that ROUND!!!! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

 

 

Lars (LoveDomes) at 9:37 AM: Had no idea that your Post would be "it" ‘til 3 PM! Wow!! [wow] Feast or Famine Bar ‘n Grill strikes again! <geesh> Had a most active beginning to the day, then the doldrums set in. <groan>

For anyone who gives a Rat's Patoot - the 3rd Year Anniversary of "Our" Place is April 12th, 2008! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Six Mix from the Larsman Mobile - all fine selections of covers ‘n steamers! <sweet>

Thanx for the visit, round ‘n chat! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

CM3 Shane at 3 PM: Better late than never, eh Question [?] Youbetcha! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Good to see ya ‘n figured it was ‘something like work' keeping you away from the Tavern by the Tracks! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Man oh man, you rattled off some names that brought back many, many memories of sitting in the end zone at the Polo Grounds on a Sunday afternoon - later on Yankee Stadium. I definitely remember all of those guys and Charlie Connerly was the "toast of the town" - yeah! Frank Gifford, Pat Summerall ‘n Kyle Rote - can't forget all of those guys either! Wow!! [wow] BUT through it all, MY team was the Cleveland Browns under the guidance of Otto Graham! Yeah!! [yeah]

Trying to use a form of an airframe as a passenger railroad car ain't the best practice. Sometimes the things that look good, aren't . . .

I haven't been surprised at the success of the Indians - just a bit taken aback by what the BoSox aren't doing. Wow!! [wow] It's an understatement to say that theirs an uphill climb at this point . . . BUT the question is: Are these the same BoSox who stormed back to beat the Yankees four straight then do the same in the series against my Cardinals Question [?] We'll know on Thursday if there's a chance . . .

Hard to believe, but NEXT WEEK is the 2nd Annual Dart's Challenge ‘n Grudge Match! Better ensure the quill pen is at the ready along with a couple of full ink wells! <grin>

Thanx for the visit, round ‘n quarters! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

Pete (pwolfe) at 4:46 PM: Not certain, but I'm beginning to think that the "count" for Posts gets enhanced even when guys make "edits." I've been trying to keep track, but unless one is constantly at the bar, well it's next to impossible to do. And yes, I concur about the quality of material being provided.

We've had a good run of give ‘n take, all kinds of things to comment on ‘n of course lots of great fotos. Thumbs Up [tup]

Thankfully, this latest ‘down time' by Kalmbach had nothing to do with revising formats ‘n so forth. Just routine maintenance as I understand it . . . still confused about why they didn't provide some notice beforehand.

Funny how things turn out with technology. "Back in the day" the TurboTrain came on scene - however, it had many shortcomings. Given today's know-how <aka: technology> I'd say the train could've been a huge winner using what we "know" now - but alas, not to be. So the TurboTrain died on the vine ‘n remains only in the mind's eye of those who traveled ‘em. Fortunately for us, we have some great insights from our WVA Connection! Thumbs Up [tup]

Some interesting fotos ‘n appreciate the effort to entertain us with ‘em!

Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:41 AM

2007 2nd Annual Darts Challenge ‘n Grudge Match!

 

 

When Question [?]

Thursday - Friday ‘n Saturday nites, October 25th thru 27th, 2007!

Where Question [?]

Match #1 at "Our" Place - Oct 25th - Match #2 at The Second Class Saloon - Oct 26th - Match #3 at "Our" Place - Oct 27th.

Note: Match #3 WILL BE PLAYED regardless of either team having a 2-zip advantage!

 

 

"Our" Place Teams:

#1 The UK Connection of: What'd he say? - Pete (pwolfe) ‘n Kiwi's are Down Under - Allan (Gunneral)

#2 The Norsemen Duo of: I'm Oaring the Boat! - Lars (LoveDomes) ‘n Deserts are for Swedes! - Eric (EricX2000).

Alternate - Jan (JanOlov) Our Resident Swede in Scotland! Confused [%-)]

Ace Reporter: CM3 Shane - From high atop Mt. Mentor, we'll be treated once again to some fine reporting of the events as they unfold!

Cheerleading provided by Cindy 'n her Our Ladies of Perpetual Motion Social Club 'n Knitting Circle! Wow!! [wow]

 

The Second Class Saloon Teams:

#1 Mo Lester (aka: Eunuch maker) ‘n Rock Pounder (aka: I got stones!)

#2 Lance Butts (aka: Watch your back!) ‘n Doug Graves (aka: Last stop!)

Alternate: Mountain Man Mike (Moose) - Proprietor of The Second Class Saloon

 

 

Shirts:

Pete - Shirt #1 -

Allan - Shirt #2 -

Lars - Shirt #3 -

Eric - Shirt #4 -

Jan - Shirt #5 -

As with last year, the "Our" Place teams will be provided with DESIGNER leather apparel (pants ‘n foot wear) to compliment the SHIRTS! Wow!! [wow] Boris will help you with the sizing . . . . <uh oh>

 

 

Bring 'em on! Shock [:O]

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

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Posted by LoveDomes on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:19 AM

Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!

Ruth my deAH, a number three from the menu board, a mugga hot coffee with a jolt, treats for the crittAHs, PPF for Boris, a round for the house ‘n the change is for YOU! Thumbs Up [tup]

A most entertaining two-parter from Da Bossman on the Turbo Train! Kinda reminded me of the "old days" when we'd have our Tuesday theme for the day . . . most of the guys would try to come up with something to keep the "theme" going. Well that was then . . .

Nice work Cap'n Tom! It's a heck of a lot more work than probably many realize, for I know you just don't take the "stuff" from one site ‘n put it here. There's all kinds of work. Just do a "right" click on the photos, go to "properties" ‘n you will see that every image used has been transferred to photo bucket - which took effort. Yeah, there's work to doing this kinda "stuff." 5 Thumbs Up [tup] salute to the guy who keeps this bar active ‘n interesting!

Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Just kinda ticks me off to think of how many "looking in" don't give a Censored [censored] thought to the effort someone puts in to providing interesting subjects on classic trains. Nope - just zipping through the Censored [censored] sites without so much as a thought to being appreciative. <arrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh> The times we live in will do me in! <arrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh> Banged Head [banghead] Censored [censored]

For CM3 I'm NOT Shane! So what's the deal with the baseball playoffs?!?!? First we thought it was a "sure thing" that the Mets ‘n Red Sox would be in the World Series. That didn't work as the Mets didn't even get to the playoffs! Then it was the Reptiles ‘n Red Sox in the WS. That didn't work as the Rockies had other thoughts. Then it was the Rockies ‘n Red Sox in the WS and THAT doesn't appear to be the case as the Indians have other ideas! Wow!! [wow]

Sox from Beantown had a power surge in one inning last night - 3 homers in a row - but that wasn't nearly enough to overcome the deficit of the previous inning. Indians lookin' motivated . . .

Those names from Jints teams of "back in the day" brought a smile . . . Da Bossman added a few others! Yeah!! [yeah]

For Jan - Fergie - Pete ‘n Eric: Good to see youse guyz! Thumbs Up [tup]

Nice steamers, Wolfman!! Yeah!! [yeah]

Darts Tournament: I see we're all set for the Part II of our Dart's Grudge Match with the goons from the 2nd Class Saloon. As Da Bossman sez, "BRING ‘EM ON!!" Hey Boris! Do you throw the feathered end at the bull's eye Question [?] <uh oh>

Another fine Post from our Proprietor! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

Time for my contribution to our optional toy & model trains day . . . .

Roco, based in Salzburg, Austria, is a manufacturer of model railway equipment, The company was founded in 1960 by Ing. Heinz Rössler and started with a plastic 'minitank' series. After export to the USA became successful, the model line was expanded with model trains in H0 scale and the smaller N scale.

On July 15, 2005 ROCO Modellspielwaren GmbH was declared bankrupt. From July 25 the company continues as Modelleisenbahn GmbH.

from: http://www.wikipedia.com/

Roco - Czech - (DC) 62221 - Steam locomotive Rh 534.1

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Posted by JanOlov on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 11:59 AM

Happy B-Day [bday]Greetings Tom and gentlemen,

May I please have some strong black please? Give the boys a top up with cigars too if you don't mind....

$$$$ for yourself....

$$$$ for the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer.....

Tom, that's ome impressive reading about the Turbo train Yeah!! [yeah]. It'll be hard to top this one...

Da Larsman, never liked maths in school, always loved history and geography....maybe that'll explain it...Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]Laugh [(-D]

Interim Chief Chef AND sole member of the "Our" Place Srubba-dub-dub cleaning crew......??? But when am I gonna get a chnace to Happy B-Day [bday] or Zzz [zzz]....? Oh dear! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]Laugh [(-D]

Nice pics, covers AND models....Yeah!! [yeah]!

pwolfe, I'll see what I can find about the UB7X. Otherwise maybe Eric might be able to give some inside info about it....

Great pics of #28 and #34 Yeah!! [yeah].... I like the Shay, Heisler and the Climax. Logging railroads are interesting stuff...Yeah!! [yeah]

EricX2000, that's the one!! Bow [bow] Thanks for the link as well! Have a round on me.... That's quite a few isn't it?

Sorry for the short post, but I'm just up after a few Zzz [zzz] on the couch....head feels like a sack of tatties....

Have a nice day everyone and take care....

 

Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket All the best! Jan
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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 2:03 PM

G'day Gents!

Does ANYONE know what in the world Jan is referring to with his B'day greetings Question [?] Confused [%-)] Beginning to wonder about this guy! Shock [:O]

Thanx Lars for helping to keep things going this morning!! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

* * * * *     * * * * *     * * * * *     * * * * *     * * * * *

Yes, one week to go before we begin round two of our Annual Dart's Challenge 'n Grudge Match with The Second Class Saloon thugs guys! Shock [:O]

Games begin THURSDAY, Oct 25th here at "Our" Place! Bring 'em on!!! Shock [:O]

So just to get some ENTHUSIASM started for this event . . . . here are the offerings from our Ace Reporter covering the Dart's Challenge of 2006 . . .

<if you've been following these reruns - the 1st two reports were provided on Page 121, Saturday, Oct 6th . . . .>

 

 

Posted by: CM3 on 27 Oct 2006, Page 418 of the Original Thread

A Frozen Dainty

Greetings from our dugout high atop Majestic Mount Mentor where we watch the Greater Mentor Electric Telegraph Authority's wire train in action.  The line crew, between pulls on the water jug (how come it's leather?) is performing the last bit of restoration work on the trunk line to the outside world.  Boris, please put the steamer trunks back in the crypt.

The second match of the IMWWDT is in the bookies (make that books).  The Our Place folks earned the victory by superior skills and creative help from the mascots.

The pre-match parade was much more subdued, if only because the Ancient and Honorable Mentor Fusiliers were activated (first time since their campaign in the Crimea) for crowd control.  They lined the streets in full battle regalia; Brown Bess muskets at the ready.  In addition, the annual Greater Mentor Sheep Drive went through town as the parade was about ready to start.  The boys on the 3-foot gauge Mentor and Southern sure have a gift for timing.  When interviewed, the trainmaster said, "We couldn't hold them back!"  Your reporter is not sure whether he meant the sheep or the brakemen as both had been on the road for a long time.

The crowd, not being able to parade, was a bit sullen, but their morale perked up a little as they watched the pregame festivities led by the cheerleaders and the bikini drill team.

Our Place won the doubloon toss.  Your reporter noticed that they were using the "Steamed Proprietor's infamous two-headed coin.  Also, Tim (Tiny) fell for the old "Heads I win, tails you lose" opening gambit.  There's something satisfying about seeing old school stuff now and again.  No Boris, not power sweep, put the breaker panel back on the wall!

Second Class and Our Place matched each other dart for dart, drink for drink, claw hold for claw hold, body slam for body slam, well, you get the picture...Your reporter was, in fact, thinking about having to tear up the lead for this story and do a new one as it appeared we might have another tie.

We now channel Hemingway (no Boris, the author; not the trucking company). Late in the contest.  Larry up for Second Class.  He needs a double 17 to tie; anything better wins.  Larry toes the line and the crowd grows quiet.  He's about ready to throw when Awk suddenly darts forward toward the punchbowl and extracts the bowl's drain plug. The contents of the bowl gush out on the floor.  Strong women tremble and men swoon as a tidal wave of punch surges forward.  Larry is undisturbed - ready to do or die for alma mater (dear old Mentor License Plate Making and Auto Boosting Academy).  He starts to throw and the flood of punch suddenly freezes solid!   There, I'm myself again, I think - these flashbacks are wicked!  It couldn't have been the lobster; it must have been the beer.

To continue; Larry slipped, stepped over the line and fell, striking his head smartly on the left front corner of pool table #3.  His throw went wild, but Ruth, ever agile and quick (she has to be with this crew!) managed to deflect the errant dart with her bar tray.  According to the rules the throw did not count, thereby awarding the victory to Our Place.

The ensuing riot was rapidly quelled by the Fusiliers who formed into hollow squares and fired over the heads of the rioters.

Your reporter slipped out the back door and found the entrance to the Our Place building's sub basement.  There he found Frostbite seated at the controls of a monstrous ice making machine.  It turns out that the MHL (Mentor Hockey League) is getting ready for their season and they will be using Our Place for practice.  Frostbite was downstairs testing the equipment when Awk unplugged the punchbowl.  I asked Frostbite if he had planned this.  All he did was give me a sly look and hold up a Pittsburgh Penguins sweater. 

One more to go.  Our Place takes the upcoming match; they win it all - if not, it's a three way tie.  Somehow, I don't think that Vito and the boys are going to let it happen.

Well, back to our studios high atop Majestic Mount Mentor courtesy of the Greater Mentor Sedan Chair and Portajohn Company, LLC.  Say good night Frostbite!

 

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Posted by: CM3 on 30 Oct 2006, P

Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
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Posted by pwolfe on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 3:17 PM

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams please RUTH and something from the pastry cabinet.Thumbs Up [tup]

ERIC It is great about Our PlaceApprove [^], someone asks for the info and one of the regulars is able to know and find itThumbs Up [tup].Bow [bow] For finding the angel statue.

I managed to find the old Railway Magazine with that survey in (the bride has not found my secret stash of mags in the basement yetEvil [}:)]), It is a great article well worthy of being in a magazine that has been published for 110 years nowYeah!! [yeah]. Anyway it says there were 177,000 steam locomotives produced in the US.

 For a bit of fun Big Smile [:D]Can you guess how many steam locos were built in Sweden, What was the last type of loco built there, in which year and where was Sweden in the list of countries that built steam locosQuestion [?]Question [?]Question [?], EG The United States built the most so is No1

 One of Sweden's locomotive manufactures hold another record in steam locomotive building, do you know what that is.Question [?]

Also in the mag is an article on the North Briton train that ran from Leeds to Glasgow via Newcastle, that no doubt ALLAN would have seen, and a bit on the Grand Canyon Railroad which we have been talking out at the bar latelyApprove [^]

Thanks for the congratulations on the 2,500th postThumbs Up [tup] and the photo of the Centennial control stand, I wonder what is was like controlling that amount of horsepowerWow!! [wow].

Yes it is very special to tour an original locomotive shedYeah!! [yeah], and the one at Jamestown has a couple of locomotives that have been there since they were built.Approve [^]

I wish they would advertise the tours a bit more prominently I happen to see a notice about the tour.This is one of the bride's favorite photos she took on our vacation. She has titled it "Big kid and smaller kids learn about a steam loco".

We toured the depot with a young family, the young lads were absolutly entralled touring the locomotive roundhouse seeing the engines in close up.Thumbs Up [tup]

LARS I noticed that with the number of views we have had at the new Our Place. I see the old Our Place has over 245,000 viewsWow!! [wow], although on page16 now, when I looked for an encore Saturday. We have had just ONE person call in at the bar and say, although he did not want to post, how much he appreciated the effort and how much he enjoyed what we posted.Sad [:(]

Many thanks for the photos of those great European ModelsApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. The detail on the models nowadays compared to when I was a kid is amazing.Yeah!! [yeah]

JAN I have yet to see a Shay, Heisler or Climax locomotive in action in the fleshSad [:(], although I have seen them on DVD. I would like to hear the Railtown Shay on the steep climb on the Sierra Railroad.Yeah!! [yeah]

Perhaps you like to have a go at the questions in my reply to Eric.Thumbs Up [tup] 

TOM Enjoying the talk of old players between you and CM3

Fully agree with what you say about the posts and photos at the bar lately.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]

In many ways the Turbo train suffered the same fate as BR's APT although the Turbotrain did run a lot longer in passenger service than the APTs did which ran very few revenue-earning tripsSad [:(]. I hope DL can give some comments on the turbo train into how it inspired the APT; there was a gas turbine experimental version of the APT before the electric APTs

I'm afraid my round buying as been curtailed by the management for a while after my generosity SaturdaySad [:(]. The Track Gang thought it too good an opportunity to miss and turned it into an impromptu drinking contestShock [:O], which put the Glasgow  ‘Swilley' to shame. To add insult to injury I had to take the full kegs and remove the empty ones from the Oktoberfest beer tent, although BORIS helped me out for an additional jar of PPFsThumbs Up [tup]. Also buying a round for the Burst the Wurst band to play ‘Swing Low Sweet Chariot' about 20 times was not cheap etherSigh [sigh].

I think Allan and I have an easy draw in the DartsThumbs Up [tup], Mr. Rock Pounder throws his darts that hard that he has to get his foot on the dart board for leverage to pull them out, so tires quickly.Smile [:)]

It was great to read last years reports of the IMWWD contestThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup], the reporter deserves manyBow [bow] f

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Posted by pwolfe on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 3:45 PM

Hi Tom and all.

A Pitcher of Bathams(Wow!! [wow]thats a thoughtApprove [^]) please RUTH while I still have my free beer privalidge.

Oh Dear I am totallyConfused [%-)] with the San Diego Model Museum photosSad [:(]Sigh [sigh]Dunce [D)].I am pretty sure the first three are on the HO scale San Diego and Arizona Eastern layout.

 

I think these next three look very much like N scale although it could be HO.

Sorry about not having more info, the bride took the photos, thats my excuseSmile [:)]. Anyway they are fantastic layoutsBow [bow] to all those involved in the museumApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup].

Pete.

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"Our" Place reborn! 3rd Year of adults 'n REAL Classic Trains in a special environment!
Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 4:42 PM

G'day Gents!

This is a HOUSEKEEPING Post - made necessary because I had to "edit" an earlier submission.

So rather than have everything "skewed," putting this up gets us back on track. Get it Question [?] Thought not! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Ruth, give 'em a drink on the house - Boris ring the bell!! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

And Pete - next time you decide to take fotos for a trip report - TAKE NOTES! <grin>

See y'all in the morrow!! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

Happy Railroading! Siberianmo

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