oops dabossman snuck back in. Nice shots from Shane, some "real" railroading happening in those thar photo's.Thanks for reminding me again too , the photo's Sir Ron dropped off were keepers, some really interesting traction shots as well as some of the other earlier passenger streamlinners. Thanks for taking the time out to share them Ron. I do hop the latest round of back woes , subsides so you can get back out into your shop
Shane-Yup I vaguly remember strapping on some skates and oplaying some shinney in the frozen backyard ice patch.I tended to be on my posterior more than on my skates which is why for me hockey is a spectator sport only. That was some game outdoors in Buffalo though. As Tom and I chatted about yesterday,someone at the NHL head office actually came up with something right for a change. Imagine 70,000 scremeing hockey fans watching a high speed high class game outside the way the game was ment to be played. 5x for those that put that together.
Rob
Good afternoon Leon, I see that you have the fires well stoked today , which is a good thing a hearty -15C in my neck of the woods but it's a tad blowy so the wind chills got it at about -25. Cold enough to freeze the brass whoops can't say that in a puiblic place like this bad meI think a nice tall glass of Guiness for today,and here's few extra bob for the boyz as they come and go tonight.
Tom-A fine rendition of the ole bookmobile. I do like that motorbooks series someone close to me got me the VIA one for my last birthday and I've procured copies of the CN and CP one as well
I'm in no hurry to reserect all the TTC stuff,I'll pace it don't you worry,theres plenty of other stuff in the pipeline to keep us all entertained.I've put my best guesses onto Chris's locomotive, I couldn't blow the shot up big enough to completely make out the herald either , so I'm dying to see how close or how far I am when he reveals the answer.
I can't entirly remember the whole story of Copperkettkle as it was a cration of Nick from Westwales. Suffice to say when Nick was the chief chef here at Our Place he brought this Aztec individual in ( a former emperor or something of that nature ) as his sous chef and general help round the kitchen , he then fell in with our Teutonic Ladie Hilda and Helga ( H&H ) and became quite the talented Zepplin pilot , so he now occupies the head pilot down at the Mentor Zepplin shed where he handles our cross pond mail and passenger service. He still amkes a wonderfull jungle ragou however when we get the chance to turn him loose in the kitchen
Lars-Top of the day to you sir, sounds like you are settling in which is a good thing.I'm glad to know I'm on the top of the Rats Patoot list and not Vito's list <uh oh >I'm not sure what to make of the saying, my addled grey matter may eventually sort it outI'll make sure that Boris treats the critters well while your gone oh and did you notice that Chris brought him a new one to play with Spike the porcupine or as Boris likes to happily say his motorized tooth pick dispenser <uh oh>. I wonder how spike gets on with Boris's rubber friends
Eric-We have about twelve cars that are regular service vehicles. Two Peter Witts 2894 , and 2424. Three PCC's 4600 ,4611 which are all electric cars and one air electric PCC 4000. The open car's 327& 23Double truck wood car 1326 is used for high days and holy days only and Montreal and Southern Counties 107 is likewise a once in a while used car. ,L&PS #8 our heavy interurban. Several work cars Snowsweeper S37,Grinder W28 and PCC Grinding train W30-31.Line car 45 and flatmotor W4 . Beyond that we have about ten others that can operate,plus about 50 other vehicles still requiring restoration some needing more work than others.
Fergie-Uh Oh better not let Vito know that you high-jacked the hooch I love that little you-tube clip some neat stuff thanks for sharing it with us.Looks to be some real action happening on the MESS, want to come over and help me get my frankensteinlike layout running I'd love to be able to say It's alive It's alive That and I'd love to be actually able to run my trueline cabooses as well. can't hardly wait for the CPR ones they are painting one of them for the Grand River Railway. For some reason I'm just going to have to buy one or two or threeI'm glad you liked the TTC piece keep watching I'll get the rest re-printed again over the comming weeks. Keep warm and dry, hope you were spared the worst of the latest couple 'o' storms that hit your parts .
G'day Gents!
Good to see a smattering of activity 'round the bar today - topped off by the return of our Manager, Lars!
Also appreciate the double visits by CM3 Shane 'n Fergie!
See that Ron has made it to the 'puter - must be difficult doing all that while on your back! <grin> Yeah, I know - it only hurts when you laff! <grin> Thanx for thinking of us 'n sharing some fine fotos!
I know it's Wednesday 'n thanx to Fergie, our "tradition" has continued on . . . I'm not in the mood for Toy 'n Model Trains Day today - had pretty much my "fill" 'round here over the holidays - as these Pages will attest. So a break is in order for the Proprietor.
daunting eh Why, we're a mere handful of guys compared to the feeding frenzies going on elsewhere. Only daunting if one lets it get to that stage!
daunting
More comments in the AM "summary" . . .
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These fotos were enclosed in a Christmas card received from CM3 Shane . . . thought you guys would enjoy them. <Details from his enclosed note . . >
Top foto: The obs car is West Texas & Buffalo Steamship & Railway Co. "DAGNY TAGGART" This car is named for the heroics of Ayn Rand's novel Atlas Shrugged. The car has a distinguished history being one of three 5-double bedroom buffet lounge cars built by Budd for service on the New York Central's "Southwestern Limited." <I'll yield to Shane for the remainder - having difficulty READING his writing! >
Bottom foto: CSX 7738 leads a west bound coal train through Prince, WV. Taken on Oct 23, 1995.
Enjoy!
See ya in the 'morrow . . .
Tom
I forgot it... It's Wednesday!
3100 has been fitted out with Tsunami and shakes the walls when she's a blow'n
BTW~~ That load of Kieth's went missing somewhere at the borderhic
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=5959
If one could roll back the hands of time... They would be waiting for the next train into the future. A. H. Francey 1921-2007
I can't See, I can't See!!!
Oh Thanks Tom it's just my glasses steaming up and No! not the Beer Ones!!
Good Late Afternoon Captain Tom and Sundry
I'll have a Kieth's... Actually two as I have two very frosty glasses with me. speaking of...
Not much on the home front today except it's COLD ! -17C this morning. At present it's a balmy -10C (-15F) Anyway Made it to the LHS this morning and picked up another Rapido passenger car and two True Line Train Cabeese My Birthday present from Lisa.
Sven: I am in the same boat as you buddy the info on this site can be daunting but I can ride shot gun for ya and take the heat! BTW Bob good article on the TTC and early Torontonian stuff.
Allan and others thanks for the well wishes. It's been a hectic week and a half I must admit but traffic on the MESS is moving once again as "601" got a badly needed class one retrofit (Removed the old MRC Prodigy sound system and replaced it with a Tsunami )
Here's something all you Land locked sailors may find interesting. The ship in the rear is the Terry Fox, the last ship I was assigned to before the Hudson. There are also "Lakers" doing their thing as well on other clips.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqvoRGsPbUQ
Later All
Fergie
Good afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Temperature's is up to 15 degrees and, OMG, the sun is out.
DD1 visited - Hope you will get better soon.
OSP stoppd by with book covers. Get the NYNH&H book - it is an outstandine piece of work.
Then - who's that emerging from the frozen orange groves - it might be, it could be, is is Lars! Happy New Year to you, sir! Appreciated your comments. I am in the KMA category, but am So not ready to leave.
Since Lars has set up shop, here's a piece of 1950 era ACL ad copy for y'all.
America's Favorite Winter Vacationland
Florida and the Sunny South
Three lightweight Streamliners via the only double track route between the east and Florida.
Florida Special - The only streamlined lightweight Pullman train between the east and Florida.
East Coast Champion - The only streamlined lightweight coach train between the east and Florida.
West Coast Champion - The only streamlined lightweight Pullman-coach train between the east and central and west coast Florida.
ATLANTIC COAST LINE RAILROAD - First in Florida Travel
Tomorrow I plan to post the second installment on transcontinental sleeper service. This segment deals with the New York Central. It took awhile to get it unraveled, but I think we got it.
work safe
Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!!
Ruth my deAH, set ‘em on the Larsman! And a HAPPY 2008 to one ‘n all from the Keys of Florida where it is sunny but rather chilly for these parts - not quite to the 60's F . . . that cold snap you've been reading about has really gone far south . . . <brrrrrrrr> A double jolt of JD if you please . . .
Boris, I see you've been really good about feedin' the crittAHs, so ‘til I say otherwise, those LARGE jars of PPF are for you - ONE PER DAY though! <grin> Ring the bell - this round is on ME! Keep the change my deAH Ruth!
I've pretty much kept up with the reading since my last visit, but must admit to skipping the reruns as I just haven't been able to remain on line for as long as I'd like. So, thanks to the dailies from Da Bossman ‘n all the fine other "stuff," I'd say I'm as up to speed as I'm gonna be for awhile.
Thanks to those of you who sent me email - finally got around to checking it! <grin> Not to worry, I won't abandon this place in the mannAH of so many othAHs - not my style. Been keeping Cap'n Tom clued in on what's happenin' in my life, so I expect he'll pass on whatever he feels our "nucleus" needs to know.
Not one to put forth the personal "stuff" at the bar - meaning the really personal. Ain't a good thing to do, plus it simply allows "the world in" on what should be private. So that's the way I do it. Too many other sites get into this overly done "I'm not feeling good," - or - "My great-aunt Matilda passed away," and so forth. Glad we don't do that here. <yuck> ‘nuf said . . .
B4 anyone jumps my case, I'm NOT addressing any of you - we all come down with this or that <routine> - but of course when something serious crops up, yeah - we'd like to know. So I'm not quite as heartless as it may sound. <grin>
Very sorry to learn of Sven's decision to check out, BUT do admire his "upfrontness" in letting us know. Hardly what we've witnessed with more than a few, huh Hope you're able to stop by from time to time - enjoyed "knowing you," even if for only a short time.
In checking out the B'day Watch List I picked up on the additions of SVEN - and - CHRIS! <sweet> Some drop off while others are added. Such is life in the fast lane, huh Speaking of CHRIS - nicely done contributions, mate!
Hey Cap'n Tom! Really like that new addition of yours for the book covAHs - a special touch <as only YOU seem to come up with> to add some descriptions! 5- Salute to Da Bossman who not only is the little engine that thinks he can, but he DOES!
Hey Rob! What's going on Dontcha know you can't "make it up," nor can you "wear it out!" I'll leave the latter to your imagination! Anyway, great to see that you've been able to keep things stoked while things have been slow. But really, I think we're actually doing bettAH than we were at this time last holiday season ‘n start of the new year. A tribute to those who give a rat's patoot - which you are now back at the top of the list of!
Hey Pete! Gone AGAIN - back AGAIN! <geesh> Dontcha EVER stay home Well, we surely NEED our Bar Chandler, so let's not be too willing to jump off-line in the near futAH, or else . . . <uh oh>
By the way - many thanx for that email . . .
Hey Eric! Cold in the desert I read! <ha ha ha ha ha> Ooooooooops. Sorry ‘bout that!
Keep up the appearances, ok Da Bossman really needs guys like you at the bar. Don't quite know what we'd be like withoutcha!
Hey Shane! Good to see you're still working for Da Man . . . aren't you getting to a "point" where retirement factors in
Good day Tom and all at the bar. Since Jan is still buying, I'll have a Glen Levitt straight up with a splash. Maybe it will help with the back pain. Thanks all for your concern and best wishes. Greetings to Chris, your latest addition to "Our place". I used to think I was indestructible, but this back thing will take the best of them down. All my other health problems are mostly non-existent now (hypertension, high cholesterol), but this back thing is degenerative and not likely to improve. It is keeping me from doing things like working on my engine, cooking and general shop work. I can't stand long, sit long or lie down for long. The painkillers are keeping me going for now. I wish I could visit more frequently, but I'm sure you will understand why I'm not.
On the brighter side, my son and daughter gave me a 22 inch monitor for Christmas. What a difference from the 16 inch one I had. I can finally see better pictures on my Autocad© program.
The weather down here is miserable. One day, you have to turn on the A/C, the next, it's down to freezing. At the moment, it's 25° (10AM) warming up to 47° in the afternoon, then back down to 33° tonight. The cold certainly isn't good for my back, so I'm staying warm in the house.
My son hasn't been able to work due to heavy rain all last week. The ground is too soft to support his 18 wheeler dump trailer. It is frustrating for him. There is so much work available, but the rain has halted all operations.
I know this is a train oriented place, but I can't seem to get too involved right now. Maybe a few of my older pics will help.
The following courtesy of Aerozep 3207
Now Arriving on Track Number Two!
Hard Cover Classic Train Books for the Can-Am Library!
Number One
AMTRAK - Color History Series <A 2007 Christmas present!>
Book DescriptionThis pictorial history is only the second of its kind to trace the 30-plus-year history of Amtrak, beginning with a look at the rise and fall of privately run passenger train service followed by a look at Amtrak's infant stage from 1971 through 1976. Also examined is the period from 1976 to 1991, when Amtrak finally established an image, buying new equipment and refurbished old and grew its ridership despite a severely limited budget. Modern and period color photos illustrate such aspects of Amtrak as its motive power, including the high-speed Acela Express; its diverse array of rolling stock and equipment, famous long-distance trains past and present; short-haul corridors.Against all odds, the passenger train survives in the United States. The formation of Amtrak in 1971 heralded the end of privately operated passenger train service and ushered in an era of intercity train travel financed on a budget that has vacillated between the virtually non-existent and the barely adequate.- The only extant pictorial history of America's only passenger rail network- Amtrak ridership in 2001 topped 24 million, the highest in its history- Passenger rail travel may be a concept whose time has come in this country, considering the woeful state of the airline industry and the efforts of prominent belt way politicians like Tom Harkin to make Amtrak a viable national passenger railwayAbout the AuthorBrian Solomon has authored several books about railroads and motive power, including MBI's recent Modern Locomotives and GE Locomotives. His writing and photography have been featured in the world's most prominent railfan publications, including TRAINS and RailNews. He splits his time between Monson, Massachusetts, and Dublin, Ireland.
VIA Rail - Color History Series <A 2007 Christmas present!>
Book DescriptionGo VIA Rail and see Canada: Here is Canada's national railway, covering 14,000 kilometers of track from the Atlantic to the Pacific, and from the Great Lakes to Hudson Bay. This illustrated history tells the story of how, starting in the early 1970s, VIA Rail became a separate Crown corporation, once and for all relieving the old Canadian National and Canadian Pacific railways of their beleaguered passenger operations. It is a story rich in history-and marked with failures and misfortunes right up to our day, when a need for convenient, fuel-efficient mass transportation holds out hope for a renaissance. Archival and modern photography, route maps, and print ads help detail the history of VIA Rail's motive power and passenger cars from the likes of General Motors, Bombardier, Montreal Locomotive Works, and Budd Company, as well such passenger trains as The Canadian, The Atlantic, The Ocean, and The Super Continental. Chris Greenlaw also explains all of the political machinations that have inevitably shaped the railroad, and delves into its connection with Amtrak via The Maple Leaf. <from: amazon.com>
Book DescriptionGo VIA Rail and see Canada: Here is Canada's national railway, covering 14,000 kilometers of track from the Atlantic to the Pacific, and from the Great Lakes to Hudson Bay. This illustrated history tells the story of how, starting in the early 1970s, VIA Rail became a separate Crown corporation, once and for all relieving the old Canadian National and Canadian Pacific railways of their beleaguered passenger operations. It is a story rich in history-and marked with failures and misfortunes right up to our day, when a need for convenient, fuel-efficient mass transportation holds out hope for a renaissance. Archival and modern photography, route maps, and print ads help detail the history of VIA Rail's motive power and passenger cars from the likes of General Motors, Bombardier, Montreal Locomotive Works, and Budd Company, as well such passenger trains as The Canadian, The Atlantic, The Ocean, and The Super Continental. Chris Greenlaw also explains all of the political machinations that have inevitably shaped the railroad, and delves into its connection with Amtrak via The Maple Leaf.
RDC - The Budd Rail Diesel Car <A "fixture" in my library!>
Definitive history of Budd's self-propelled passenger rail cars
Passing Trains <Another "fixture" in my library!>
Book DescriptionPassing Trains examines the changing face of Canadian railroading over the past 50 years and features the work of more than two dozen of North America's finest railroad photographers. With over 200 color photographs, as well as gallery-quality black-and-whites, this book takes us back in time for an intimate view of old-order railroading and how it has evolved. <from: amazon.com>
Book DescriptionPassing Trains examines the changing face of Canadian railroading over the past 50 years and features the work of more than two dozen of North America's finest railroad photographers. With over 200 color photographs, as well as gallery-quality black-and-whites, this book takes us back in time for an intimate view of old-order railroading and how it has evolved.
Canadian Pacific: Stand Fast Craigellachie! <Another "fixture" in my library!>
Paul Brown, Branchline [Bytown Railway Society], February 2004This is a truly spectacular volume. ReviewGlobe and Mail : An oversized volume of fabulous train photos.Bill Robertson Saskatoon Star Phoenix : A gorgeous book, with photos of old and new trains and some wonderful Canadian landscape.Don Denton Victoria Times-Colonist : Jammed full of technical and historical Happy Railroading! Siberianmo coalminer3 Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: WV 1,251 posts Posted by coalminer3 on Thursday, January 3, 2008 8:47 AM Good Morning Barkeep and all present; coffee, please (with a splash); round for the house and $ for the jukebox. It's a baked potato in the pocket morning today; five degrees, snow, and just enough wind to make it interesting. Had to drag the K9 Korps in this a.m. b4 heading to work as he likes this stuff! Gas holding at $3.19 but we're waiting until the next butterfly burps in Nigeria. My, didn't West Virginia put an old time back alley mugging on OU last night.Rob was here with comments and archival material. I assume you watched the hockey game from Buffalo. Many of the hockey players (unlike baseball players) have a sense for the history of their game. We all played on ponds when I was a pup - wouldn't know what to do if we ever go smooth ice. BTW, did anyone catch the insane bit of stick handling in the first period by Crosby? Jeesh! BTW, alma mater was well represented by Ty Conklin. Eric - Good to hear from you and hope you are able to sit up and take nourishment. Incidentally the bit about the Pullman sections is an ancient vaudeville routine which probably was an ancestor to the classic Who's on First. Allan visited - hope you are doing well.Pete was in as well with wide ranging observations.MoPac- I know it's a Buffalo, but as OSP noted the picture won't enlarge enough to get a good look at the logo. Incidentally, I have been accused of being an SPF as well.OSP is here with a nice collection of vintage ads. Lovely stuff and well chosen.I'll try and stop by later if time permits, but now (sigh) to a month's backlog of paper work or what I used to call, "Feeding the system," back when I was bossing.Work safe siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, January 3, 2008 8:25 AM <personal foto>G'day Gents!And suddenly it's Thursday of the 1st abbreviated work week <for many> of the New Year! One thing that has remained steady though is that great smell of our freshly ground ‘n brewed special blend coffee! <ummmmmmm> Also, time to order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board -n also take a tour of The Mentor Village Bakery case . . . Comments from the Proprietor: Name the DoNut Machine CONTEST underway!<closes on Fri, 04 Jan 2008 at NOON (CST)>Lars . . . . GreeseMeister (27 Dec)Sven . . . . The Halo Creator (27 Dec)Pete . . . Holey-Moley (27 Dec)Rob . . . . Track Greeser (27 Dec)Mike . . . . Greasel Doughcomotive, built by EMD (eat more donuts) (29 Dec)<Contest Participants may "vote" for any of the above by sending me an "offline" Email - NOT via the Forums pu-leeze!> REMINDER: Drinks are "on Jan for the remainder of the week! Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative): Sven (Sven Olov) at 11:41 AM: My "special comments" from yesterday apply . . . Rob (trolleyboy) at 1:39 PM ‘n 3:09 PM ‘n 3:13PM ‘n 5:27 PM: First off it was a pleasure speaking with you yesterday - another hour or more "logged" in some fast pace ‘n interesting chat! Many thanx for the "visit"! Covered lots of ground in those four Posts, so let me just touch upon a few thoughts:. . . Copperkettle! Yeah, I recall. By all means feel free to "enlighten" the new crew . . . There are SOME things that government does well. However, if what you infer regarding that VIA Rail website is true - then shame on ‘em. I've always had far better luck with my reservations by calling their 800 number in Moncton . . . "works" for me. Just like to scope out what's available FIRST on the web site - helps to have a baseline to work from before getting into the nitty-gritty. At least that's the way I've done it.. . . As we discussed, graffiti has become a recognized art form. HOWEVER, when placed upon OTHER PEOPLE's PROPERTIY without their PERMISSION, it becomes VANDALISM. Most doubtful the culprits will get caught, but it sure would be nice if . . . . . . I couldn't enlarge that "mystery foto" <from Chris> large enough to make out the herald. Waiting for the "answer" too . . .. . . TTC, Part I appreciated . . . lotsagudstuff! Perhaps best now to run the remainder on our Saturday Encores now that the holidays are over . . . . . . Some "good stuff" about Boris! A POWERED tooth pick dispenser Good Gawd Gertie - they've been flying outta here at Mach I . . . <geesh>You Sir, are sick - sick - sick, but a most enjoyable ‘n appreciated asset of this place called "Ours"! A Five Salute to our trolleyMAN! MoPac Chris (MoPacBarrettTunnel) at 5:04 PM: Really a fine offering from our Resident MoPac Connection! Methinks you are being oh-so humble about your talents . . . but that's fine. My thoughts are it ain't braggin' if you can do "it," and YOU DID! No personal comparisons, Mate - not my style. Appreciate the thought . . . . Happy Railroading! Siberianmo EricX2000 Member sinceDecember 2002 From: Phoenix, AZ 683 posts Posted by EricX2000 on Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:24 AM Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!Leon, my friend! A double cheese burger and curly fries. And a super sized Root Beer, please!Back after missing a couple of days (bad gall stone days)! I don't have time enough tonight to catch up on everything but started on it. The rest is coming next time. Happy New Year to all of You!!! Rob – Since I am retired I must be kind of old, but my eyesight is okay and I still know what a human being (your wife) looks like. At least in most cases and absolutely in this case! My best to your wife! You better be careful, the trainshed X2000 is sitting under is St. Louis Union Station! I promise not to tell Tom. Nice museum shots! How many operational streetcars do you have at the muesum? Would be interesting to have a look at those timetables from 1941!Tom – Wow, quite a few movies! Do you know how many different ones?You managed to catch Stealthy Pete in front of the dome car! Good shot!Thanks for the info on VIA’s use of streamliners on the “Ocean” route. I got the same impression of New Orleans as you did. Went to World’s Fair there on an extended vacation trip 1984. I did not know that #8444 was supposed to be there. It was just a nice surprise. Our (my 1st wife and I) vacation trip lasted a little bit more than four months. We bought a car and drove around. I agree, Willie Nelson’s version of City of New Oorleans is the best. It was very popular 1984! Gilbert American Flyer Instruction book looks interesting! Thanks for the Canadian History during the month of December! Always interesting to read. CM3 – I checked BCT’s website a year ago and read about the work they are doing. I understand if Boris is kind of confused when you try to explain the price for lower and upper berth. I had to read it several times and now I know it is lower because something is higher. Or whatever.Chris – Welcome to the “Nocturnal Steward Team”. Lets keep everybody else awake as well! Amtrak’s F69PHAC pulled the ICE-train on its National Tour. The X2000 was pulled/pushed by 2 F40’s. I have a website about the X2000 in the USA, check this link.http://web.mac.com/ericx2000/iWeb/X2%20in%20USA/Welcome.htmlInteresting site you have! I’ve to come back later, need to get some sleep tonight. Saw your look alike, Benny Anderson! St. Louis. 1993.JanOlov – Thanks for all drinks!Allan – Fax-machine instead of a PC? Hmm, maybe that would work!? Fergie – Flat bed of Keith’s? Where, when? Eric trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Wednesday, January 2, 2008 9:34 PM Good evening again Leon , I think another Keith's as I wind down the day.I see that Pete adn Allan have been in as well so all in all it's been an almost everybody in day heer at teh saloon we all love so dearly.Pete-Nice to see you caught up and on the same page as all of us again I'm glad you liked the pictrues from the 29th.I'm guessing that the car you were interested in is L&PS #8 (London & Port Stanley Railway ) she's the only operable car from the L&PS still existing. delson owns #10 and 14 but neither have been restored and are essentially just frames. We have locomotive L2 by our front gates as well. It is a beautifull carif you think teh outside is snappy you should see the inside it is the true belle of our fleet.Allan-I'm glad you found the TTC article interesting. I'll re-run the other two parts over the comming days and weeks.There is alot of Street railway history in the city of Toronto, and of coarse teh street railways and subways still make up a viable people moving system ,moving more than a million persons a day.Rob Gunneral Member sinceSeptember 2002 From: NZ 242 posts Posted by Gunneral on Wednesday, January 2, 2008 7:55 PM Hi Tom and all, The usual round of Tui`s for all the crew please Leon!Tom. Thanks for all the very interesting posts and pics, am still catching up at the moment, but what a super selection of varied info and pics which are too numerous to note here, some great pics of yours and Pete`s visit to the Train Wreck Saloon and Pete`s `Puter den, you both looked real cool at Kirkwood station! My B-i-L has a room full of music from Glen Miller 78`s to the real high brow stuff, in ALL the recording formats, my wife`s sister reackons the room should be totally SOUNDPROOFED! It`s great to be back on the thread and with you all again. Many thanks for all the really nice festive season greetings. Eric. Hope you are keeping OK and having a great "half" retirement, nice pic of your retirement party, the cake looked great! Got a great 5 disc DVD set for Xmas, on trains of course, and there is a shot of the X2000 at Union Station, Chicago, sitting next to the California Zephyr`s two FPH40`s, don`t know what year it was.Lars. Really nice Xmas card you posted to us, hope you are feeling a lot better now and enjoying your time at the Key`s?Rob. Thanks for your kind wishes, had a very quiet New Year all in all, I am enjoying catching up on all your posts and pics at the moment, your new Classic Juice post looks very interesting.Pete. Hope you had a nice trip and it`s good to see you back again mate. That shot of the Flying Scotsman alongside that Deltic at King`s X is a classic one, thanks for that link to the Transport Museum, and that pic of Tom in the engineers seat is great!CM3. Nice to see that things are back to normal for you again. Thanks for that link to steam loco #21 Ron. Sorry to hear you have that back problem, my wife did a disc whilst shopping up in Auckland, just getting out of the car, and now has sciatica as well, take care mate. Hope to see you back to normal soon!Mike. Real nice Xmas greeting mate.Chris. Great selection of loco pics, especially liked the Amos `n` Andy one, you will find that even as an ex-pat Brit like Pete, after the LNER my next favourite line is the ATSFRR, my favourite steam loco is the LNER A4 Pacific and then the SF Northern! My B-i-l gets a friend of his to download music off the net for his MP3 player, I am not going to mention that he comes from Glasgow, Scotland!Fergie. Hope things are well with you.Dan. Nice to see you popped in.Jan. Take it easy mate. Nice selection of cab forward pics from you, thanks!Sven. See we share the same birth date, sorry to hear that time is "tight" for you, sometimes I can`t manage to get on the thread as much as i`d like to but I find that everyone is very accepting about it. I`ve found that this is a very easy going place to be a part of.See ya, Allan pwolfe Member sinceFebruary 2005 From: mid mo 1,054 posts Posted by pwolfe on Wednesday, January 2, 2008 5:45 PM Hi Tom and all.It is good to be back and it will have to be a Winter Warmer on the chilly mid Missouri day please RUTH.LARS Hope you had a great trip down to the Keys and are having a great time there. Sorry I missed your free drinks but many thanks for the great list of your thoughts.CHRIS Many thanks for the info on those old track beds on the line from here to Washington MO.It would be great to hear more about your trips across the pond and see the photos and if you have any questions about British railways I will be pleased to try to answer them. Glad you liked the photo of the ‘Duchess' one my favorite class of locomotives, the ‘Semis' as we knew them, were the top express locomotives that used to pass through my home town on the West Coast main line, which was the LMS before nationalization in 1948. There are three of the Duchess's preserved, No. 6233 running on main line specials (4) 6229 Duchess of Hamilton which has run on the main line in preservation days but is now needing an overhaul before running again, this loco is having a streamline casing fitted, which many of the Duchesses had when first built. The third preserved Duchess is 46235 City Of Birmingham, this loco was given to the city after her days on BR and as always been a static museum exhibit buts looks great in the BR Brunswick Green. I have been fortunate to have traveled quite a few times behind the Preserved Duchess on main line specials.Really enjoying your photos. That was a good two hours at Kirkwood in 1985, I suppose it is the same in North America as it is in the UK, with a great deal less variation in locomotive classes in the twenty or so years since 1985, in even the short time I have been here I have noticed that the Rio Grande and Cotton Belt livered locomotives I saw when I was first here seem to have disappeared and even the Southern Pacific ones are getting rarer.ROB Thanks for the kind words on the photos. I would like to see a photo of the new paint job on the F40s it has got to be better than the ‘Spiderman livery'Loved the museum photos, that looks an interesting car in the blur livery in the 3rd photo of your 11: 29 post on the 29th.ERIC If I may answer your question to Chris, I have not seen a slug unit here in Jeff City since I have been here, they use two of the smaller locomotives usually top and tailing the freight to the local factories along Industrial Drive, the track, I was told, was part of the line to the Osage River at Bagnall which traffic was mainly timber, the line as been closed for many years now. The local freight train usually works in the late evening and from the new park near Pat's Place it is possible to see the local freight being made up with the switching of the cars for the local.Thanks for the photos, did they have any more locomotives at the World Fair in New Orleans in 1984.CM3 Hope you had a great birthday.Thanks for the info on the sleeping car heating at stations. I read recently that the last normal duty for a steam locomotive on BR was when a loco heated a sleeping car at Preston station, leaving only the last day special, as a farewell to BR steam.Hopefully will shall be able to see a Duchess should be very soon in the pre war streamlining in crimson with gold-stripped LMS livery.JAN Great to see you in the bar, hope you had a great Scottish New Year and thanks for the good wishes.ALLAN Great to see you back in the bar as well, trust you had a great Christmas and thanks for the good wishes.FERGIE Many thanks for the good wishes.TOM Great to see Narrow Margin on at the Emporium a great film to start the new year, I don't think I have seen Hour Of the Gun before but as it says it is the most accurate of the OK gunfight films it will be well worth watching, and the explosive ostrich egg of the Stooges as well.We have seen a lot of really great movies since the re-opening of the Emporium. It is hard to believe it is two years ago now. A though sudde trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Wednesday, January 2, 2008 5:27 PM Leon you look a little blurry eyed this afternoon , oh I see you've been picking up quills all afternoon,what's that oh Boris has discovered a self powered tooth-pick dispenser and he's named it "spike" No your right he never has been that creative in the naming of his pets has he, oh well. Just a small tankard of Keith's for the time being.Chris-Hmmm so I'm close am I , well if its a Pennsylvania produced "critter" then it must be an old Baldwin locomotive that's been rebuilt , perhaps an RS12 or AS616,Close a guess as I've got at the moment buddy. It is good hockey weather,I'll have to see if my skates still fit. I don't think there is anything wrong with that paint jobI'm sure that they will blame it on the shop intern.Rob MopacBarrettTunnel Member sinceAugust 2006 62 posts Posted by MopacBarrettTunnel on Wednesday, January 2, 2008 5:04 PM Afternoon, Everybody!Michelob draught please, Ruth - you have a good Holiday, I hope? When Boris wakes up from his nap, I've got a porcupine for him to play with.............Nice to see this place picking up some steam , now that the holidays are finished. General comment about that vandalism bit - those clowns ought to be wired to the "G .5's" pantograph, and then have the throttle be slammed into the Company notch!!Now down to "bidness:"Cap'n Tom - Thanks for the kudos and compliments I try to keep myself humble about my life, accomplishments, etc., but I still like to be appreciated, as do we all. Designing the MySpace thing was really just a matter of choosing a template, and filling in the blanks - I used to know some HTML-code, so in the old days I could have done a page from scratch, but I didn't keep up with it. No big thing, though - I still manage to get by with the skills I DO have. Sorry to hear your son is no longer with us; I can tell by the tone in your writing how much you love and miss him, and I can also see that I possibly remind you of him {at least with my computer skills}. It's all Good, Mate. BTW - which foto are we talking about; something here, or something on my blog? I dig the PRR too - my maternal Grandfather worked for them in the 1920's - so I'll be injecting the odd "Keystone-fix" here fairly frequently..........Sven - even though we haven't met yet, sometimes things get crazy enough that you just need to step back a bit, and re-group. This has happened to me more than a few times, so I can sympathize with your situation. From what I've seen of your work here in the archives, you're one of the "good eggs," and I'd hate to lose your presence entirely, but again, I can understand your position. hopefully things will ease up enough to allow you to return to some kind of "active-duty" here, even if it's in a limited way.Shane/cm3 - Hee, hee, hee!!! Threw a bit of a curve with the Frisco stuff, eh? Absotively, my good man! Gotta keep everyone on their toes, and all that. Like I told the Cap'n, the PRR is pretty high on my list of faves, and I'll take all the additional info on it {like your thoughts above} I can gets! As for the Buffalo pic, I'm still waiting to see if Rob can "name that Beast," but the facts will be known shortly...........Rob/trolleyboy - Oh, you are this >|< close to getting it; keep them gears spinning, Mate!!! Another hint - the original builder was just down the main line from Brill in Pennsylvania........ {C'mon, Rob I know you can get this - you and I are the "pups" here, and we don't want to look silly to our elders now, do we?} BTW - it's frigid here in Gateway, too; currently it's a balmy 19 degrees! Good HOCKEY weather.........Today's first bit from me bounces quite nicely off of Rob's humor-observation; as such, here's what happens if someone spikes the coffee of the paint-shop crews:More shortly! Eagle Expidited Merchandise Service - 'cos DHL, FedEx, and UPS are ignorant of their history.......... trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Wednesday, January 2, 2008 3:13 PM Hi again Ruth I think another Keith's could go well right about now I see that the good Tom has come back in. Just in from another brisk walk with Junneau eh Some great rail ads there sir thanks for sharing don't fall asleep in your lazy boy till you read the latest tome Nice cold -14C here today, wanna come up and make some snowmen in my front yard Rob trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Wednesday, January 2, 2008 3:09 PM Hey look Pete's back thats grrreet Ruth get that man an intravenous drip for the bantham's Glad to see you've made it back and just in time too the beer fridges are empty,were almost resorting to Boris's liquid lusters from his vats in teh shed basementwe know how well his last microbrews did ( they still are opicking bits of shrappnel out of some of teh downtown buildings ) thank goodness that therush shippment of Keith's Fergie sent along made it here we almost had to drink Boris's Bohemian lager So Ruth my good freind I think i'll join Peet in a pint or two or three Here's some reading material from the archieves of threads past CLASSIC JUICE #21 THE PRE-HISTORY OF THE TTC PART # 1The Toronto Street Railway Company 1861-1869 1869-1891 This company was incorporated on March 26th 1861, with Alexander Easton becomming president.The company was given a thirty year franchise from the city to provide horsecars servcie on Yonge Street ,Queen and King Streets. Cars were not to exceed a speed of six miles per hour,and would work sixteen hours a day in summer and fourteen hours a day in winter. Headways were to be no longer than half an hour, and fares were to be five cents. The company proceeded with it's operations until 1869, when it's assets were taken over by appointed Trustee William Cayley. In 1868, the company ahd suffered finacial setbacks and was unable to meet the intrest payments on it's bonds.On march 29th of 1873 William and George W Kiely took over the assets of the old company and were granted a new Act of Incorporation to it's franchise, to continue the companies former obligations.The company remained under Kiely control until May 1891 , when the franchise expired and the city took over operations. Toronto Railway Company 1891-1921 The city of Toronto continued to operate the street railways until september 1st of 1891 when a group under William MaKenzie ( Of the KcKenzie & Mann Canadian Northern Fame ) bought the operations from the city and began new services on a thirty year franchise.This new company became known as The Toronto Railway Company, and would be the largest operator of street railways in the city until the franchise expired in 1921. During the days of the TRC , electrification of the Toronto system was brought about and all horsecar lines were withdrawn ( 1893 ).Extentions to the system were made, and the introduction of open cars in the summer and closed one's for winter operation began.Stoves were also installed in the new electric cars.Double truck cars were introduced in service and in 1905 the company installed air brakes on most of the double truck cars. In 1915, open cars were banned by the Railway and Municiple Board, and all cars henceforth were of the closed type, with doors provided both front and rear. Improved lifeguards were added to the car fronts providing new saftey features.There had been many complaints that pedestrians would suffer permanent and fatal injuries if they accidently fell from moving cars. Another improvement which the TRC completed during it's franchise was the use of heavier rails.Horsecar rails were too light in weight, and the bigger TRC cars ran better over the heavier ones.Sunday service also became part of the TRC improvements, the first cars appearing May 23 1897 after a vote in their favour on May 15th.Even the old horsecars had a part to play as they were put to use on the heavy traffic lines as trailers for the electric cars. As a money saver the TRC built most of their own casr in their Connaught and Roncessvalles carbarns buying only the control and brake equipmnet and trucks and motors from the "big" streetcar manufacturers of the day.Over 600 ars and variuou pieces of work equiopment were built for the TRC from 1904-1914 ! Progress came to a halt in 1910,when the TRC refused to extend it's system beyond the franchise bounderies of 1891.This decision was upheld by the courts and as a result aperiod of stymied developement took place in the new areas annexed by the city.The TRC would uphold it's position until the end of it's franchise on Aug 31,1921.The TRC as a company would continue in existance until sept. 2 1930.Now as luck would have it our museum has preserved several pieces of home built TRC equipment, some still used daily at our museum the rest awaitng full restoration.The only one left of 400 built between 1905-1914 Double trucker 1326 built in 1910Flat motor W4 built in 1904Open car 327 (1896) used daily !enjoyRob siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, January 2, 2008 2:42 PM G'day Gents!Good to see our Bar Chandler Pete has returned 'n prior to his "note," a visit from our Resident Ontario Connection, Rob the trolleyMAN! Thanx to both for keeping us AWAKE! <grin>Something to enjoy on this wonderfully crisp winter's day here in mid-continent USA! <grin> Now Arriving on Track #1Six Pack Special Number EightRR advertisements from the Classic Era FEC ad - \"Henry M. Flagler\" Streamliner on the Florida East Coast (from: www.getcruising.com) Pennsylvania RR - Washington Santa Fe - Dude Ranches Erie Railroad Southern Railway New York Central System* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Enjoy! Tom Missed any #1 . . . Page 107#2 . . . Page 109#3 . . . Page 115#4 . . . Page 118#5 . . . Page 128#6 . . . Page 136#7 . . . Page 149 Happy Railroading! Siberianmo pwolfe Member sinceFebruary 2005 From: mid mo 1,054 posts Posted by pwolfe on Wednesday, January 2, 2008 1:54 PM Hi Tom and all.Hope everyone a great New Year, back from K.C. so a round for all please RUTH..Looks like some great posts while I have been away, so I will sit in the corner and catch up..So keep the Bathams coming Ruth.Pete. trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Wednesday, January 2, 2008 1:39 PM Good afternoon Ruth, you look a little lost with out your daily Lars mean chat's with our beloved manager, not to worry he's been sending care packages VIA the Mentor Zepplin Company. H&H and the redoubt Copperkettle ( remember him Tom )Have been flying daily circuts from the south,the fresh oranges and kumqauts have been wonderfull as well as the freshly jarred PPF for Boris alls well. So Ruth I think a nice BK splashed coffee and a nice handfull of fresh greesballs ( need to greese the loops at the museum ) would be wonderfull.Tom-Yes it twas a bit slow yesterday but at least a couple of us managed to stagger in, mytab for the day was fairly large , know anything about that Chris at least fergies flatbed of Keith's has arrived we had almost run out, no thanks to myself I'm sure I have one word for the VIA website govt. run piece of well you get my meaning. You have connections though,you must be able to get a speacial travel pack for you and your beloved seriously with the shots you've shown from Alaska I don't think you can really go wrong. As to the would be "artists" I hope they froze their fingers off. Unfortunatly if they get caught ( which is hard to beleave it would happen ) that sort of thing always gets a pat on the head and chalked upto teenage angst < barf and double barf > I never did stuff like that or even contemplated it.Hopefully the local police find them and not our shop guys,or they might find out what opther things can be dome with overhead wires and switch irons Seriuosly thought the most that will happen to them is a fine and community service <barf>Maybe if mommy and daddy have to pay for the paint job things would change but I doubt it somehow. I only caught teh third period the overtime and the shootout, but yes these outdoor games seem to be just what the doctor ordered for the NHL,something indeed that they have done right Sven-Sorry to hear that you aer leaving us. As Tom says I hope you can reconcider, but thank-you for the fair warning.Keep well and I hope we do hear from you from time to time. Sombody has to eat all these donuts,and just cause I'm a cops kid don't expect me do eat more than my share.Shane-Good afternoon sir,yes Boris on the people catcher, a poster boy of sorts. For what I'm not sure,I would think it would cut down on grade crossing accidents ! MopacBarrettTunnel wrote: Today's item for group consideration pays tribute to my fondness for all things "offbeat," a trait of mine that will be explored in-depth as we go along. For now, please enjoy the following: Well I'm still thinking I'm stumped,I'm usually pretty good at picking out oddball locomotives but this one's certainly odd. Looks to be either a Fairbanks Morse truck or an old Alco tri-mount,I'm leaning towards an FM something off maybe a baby trainmaster. Looks as though it's had a complete remotoring and rebuild,so in my oppinion it's a Katy or a C&NW franken-rebuild from the 70's and 80'sLates just say you don't want to even hear me sing in the shower,growing up and singing in the Churc choirs etc ( yup hard to believe but I did that )lets just say that everyone was glad when I sang Solo as in so low noboday can hear him All I can say is look out bar theer's to odd sence's of humour stocking the joint <uh oh >Rob siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, January 2, 2008 11:54 AM G'day Gents!SPECIAL: for SvenHope you reconsider . . . but respect your wishes.As I've tried to emphasize here 'n by Email, participating at "Our" Place is supposed to be for FUN - that's it!It is time-consuming to remain on top of each 'n every Post . . . so we've pretty much divided ourselves into those who can 'n those who cannot. It's those who will not who are the problem . . . and that's certainly NOT you.Being a part-time customer only requires you to check back to see if anyone has responded to whatever it is you've said to one or all of us . . . an option open to you.Hope all goes well for you 'n remember, there's a stool at "Our" Place for you anytime you can drop in . . . Best in 2008 to you 'n yours! Tom Happy Railroading! Siberianmo Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 2, 2008 11:41 AM Good Afternoon, Ruth. I'll have my usual Gevalia, and a few donuts from the greasy machine in the Galley. I am sitting down with a heavy heart on one of your bar stools to let you, and all the regulars, know what I finally have to admit to myself: "I can not keep up with it!" To read, stay on top of, and actively take part in all that's going on here takes more time than what I am able to set aside. I wish I could take the same step as Eric just did, and many of you have done before, the step into retirementhood, or at least semi retirement. But unfortunately, that is not an option. It is not easy to say this, but it is more fair than just to fade away and disappear. I have had some very nice and rewarding weeks at your adult bar, and might pop in from time to time, at least to listen. It's been good to know you all. Thank you for your fellowship, and now understanding. I wish you all, and the establishement, a very happy and prosperious 2008. Sven Edit siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, January 2, 2008 8:39 AM <personal foto> Wednesday's WitticismIf you must be a fool, be a rich fool ‘n people will treat you like a king.G'day Gents!Didn't expect much yesterday ‘n we didn't get much! However, for the hearty few that did stop by - many THANX! It's mid-week in mid-continent USA ‘n the smell of that freshly ground ‘n brewed special blend coffee <unleaded> ‘n <regular> is driving me WILD! Well, maybe not that wild . . . <grin> Order yourself a <light> or <traditional> breakfast for our Menu Board ‘n check out the pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery case <courtesy of Mama ‘n Papa Grundledink!> Comments from the Proprietor: Wish to make special mention to Rob (trolleyMAN), CM3 Shane (coalminer3) ‘n Lars (LoveDomes) for supporting "my other Thread" over the past several weeks ‘n months - especially Lars who pretty much kept at it during all or most of 2007! Five Salutes to y'all! Name the DoNut Machine CONTEST underway!<closes on Fri, 04 Jan 2008 at NOON (CST)>Lars . . . . GreeseMeister (27 Dec)Sven . . . . The Halo Creator (27 Dec)Pete . . . Holey-Moley (27 Dec)Rob . . . . Track Greeser (27 Dec)Mike . . . . Greasel Doughcomotive, built by EMD (eat more donuts) (29 Dec)<Contest Participants may "vote" for any of the above by sending me an "offline" Email - NOT via the Forums pu-leeze!> Drinks are on Jan for the remainder of the week! Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative): Tuesday, Jan 1st:MoPac Chris (MoPacBarrettTunnel) at 3:49 PM: An appreciated visit ‘n Post from our Resident MoPac Connection! Fine inclusive offering from our sage, but still YOUNG, customer down there on the 3rd stool from the far end of the bar . . . No problems though, most of us have passed thru where you are in life ‘n perhaps have forgotten so much over time . . . nice to come across someone with an appreciation for the "good stuff"! I KNOW that designing ‘n maintaining a web site of such high quality takes lots of WORK. Yours is really a 4.0 accomplishment - I'd love to know "how" to get into that aspect of the net . . . maybe one day. <grin>My late son was a NATURAL when it came to ‘puters ‘n the like. He NEVER had any meaningful formal training - was a commercial artist by trade - AND a musician by night <uh oh>. Anyway, he wound up being hired by one of this area's "premier" companies to run their computer graphics operation. If that talent came from me - I'd never know it! <grin>Liked the foto - tell us about it! Ron (DD1) at 5:45 PM: Aches ‘n pains from our part-time Resident Southern Gentleman down in Mississippi <aka: Transplanted New Yorker!> I know that at times it hurts to even laugh - but you gotta stay on TOP! This character Arthur Itis is an emissary from the Devil himself - don't let him getcha DOWN! Have another "belt& Happy Railroading! Siberianmo coalminer3 Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: WV 1,251 posts Posted by coalminer3 on Wednesday, January 2, 2008 8:36 AM Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please (New England Four Seasons Blend will be fine), round for the house, and $ for the jukebox. Nice and cool here this a.m. (about 10 degrees with a stiff wind. The K9 Korps did not spend too much time outside this a.m. There's enough snow on the roads to make it interesting. Gas is at $3.19/gal. Happy New Year to all!Let's see what's in the stack of stuff today. Jan Olov stopped by. Glad to see you are stirring around!DD1 visited briefly - get better, son! No fun dealing with that stuff. Allan was in as well as was Fergie!Rob - Boris on the people catcher? Is that sort of like Paddy on the Railway? Anyway, seeing him in front gives new meaning to the phrase, "Watch Out for the Cars." MoPAc visited with SLSF material. Zoiks! A builder shot of SLSF 4501 lettered for the "Meteor!" The G.5 was a misbegotten project form the get go. Take a perfectly good road engine and turn it into a switcher; almost as bizarre as a GP9B. In the east, P Company had some of those and eventually they began to appear in and around Providence when the worms took over the New Haven. It was an interesting sight to see them moving around in the yard with the engineer's sticking his head out of the porthole in the side of the engine. The ATSF with shrouds is a keeper as well. Last, liked the "Buffalo" picture that you sent along as well. OSP has been by with general comments, snappy repartee, and another Canadian history installment. Thanks for that one, sir!Work safe MopacBarrettTunnel Member sinceAugust 2006 62 posts Posted by MopacBarrettTunnel on Wednesday, January 2, 2008 2:27 AM You got it spot-on, Leon - EXCELLENT porch-climber!!! Almost forgot my useful contribution for the day, so please enjoy the following random images:Anyone here besides me ever see a pic of the elusive PRR "G .5?"No matter how you "fancy it up" there's just no escaping the fact that a Genesis unit is really an unholy cross-breed between a Baldwin Shark booster unit, and Santa Fe's "Amos-n-Andy" bocab twins of 1935:{credit for the two above goes to S. Berliner III - both images are from his wonderful boxcab/Pennsy-appreciation site}Speaking of Amos-n-Andy, here's a rare shot of them wearing their as-built {and immediately removed upon delivery} truck shrouds:And finally, here's a link to a presentation you all might enjoy:http://165.91.110.43/Trains/Misc/Bicentennial.htmSYS, All!!! Eagle Expidited Merchandise Service - 'cos DHL, FedEx, and UPS are ignorant of their history.......... MopacBarrettTunnel Member sinceAugust 2006 62 posts Posted by MopacBarrettTunnel on Wednesday, January 2, 2008 12:29 AM {Staggers in, looking a bit dishevelled}Evening, Leon! How 'bout them TYE-GAHS then, eh? No, no, Boris - I didn't bring a kitty with me for you to play with; maybe next time, OK? Promise! Leon, you might have to look this one up, but I'd like a porch-climber, if you please - a pitcher of 'em would be great.Sorry to hear about DD1's troubles with arthritis - my wife and Mom both have it in their backs and legs, and I'm always having problems with my knees, so sending some sympathy his way seems quite logical. Perhaps he could find a TEMS unit, at a medical supply-house; it's a portable device that is basically a cross between a massager and an electro-therapy machine. A friend of mine in Glasgow swears by hers; she's had terrible arthritis for years.Rob/trolleyboy - Oh, man are WE going to have fun!! A "twisted" comrade-in-humor is always a good thing to have in places like this one, and since you fell right in with the punchline without missing a beat, I forsee wonderful times ahead. Don't worry about singing off-key; after 25 years gigging, I still do to this day!! No worries though - it's more about the emotion you put into it, anyway........... So, you like the pic of that Green Machine, eh? Well, let's make it interesting. I'll give you a couple hints - the trucks are a dead giveaway as to who the original manufacturer was, and the nickname for this particular class of rebuilds was "Buffalo." No fair Googling, now.................. Eagle Expidited Merchandise Service - 'cos DHL, FedEx, and UPS are ignorant of their history.......... trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Tuesday, January 1, 2008 9:46 PM Good after/morning/evening Leon or is it Cindy ( staggers towards what might be his stool )Just a small Keith's Leon,bit of a quiet one today but that's not too big a deal,ncie to see the place survived the staff party, though I noticed the police tape on the Rats Patoot room's door.<uh oh> Anybody know what happenedLast thing I remember was H&H in their wagner girl outfitsand the Mentor Jug band belting out a spirited version of the Ride of the Valkeries.I haven't seen the inspector or is side kick around either , mind you the moosehead that was on the wall is leaning against the bar and someone's put a Boston Bruins touque on it. Any thoughts Shane Tom-So the travel bugs bit again has it Well can't keep an experianced traveller down,we still have to do the Tour of the line on the ACR and the Churchhill run,no preasure though I haven't snapped a picture yet it hasn't made it this far south into Ontario yet,give it time though.One of the guys at the station hobbyshop got a picture off the web somewhere, so some shots are out there in the either. Like Chris that FPA is my kind of porn too, gotta love anything that Alco or MLW put out,except the LRT's they never floated my boat. We'll just have to give you a much more in depth tour at the second visit to the HCRY,though on a I'm PO'd side of things. I got an email from one of our freinds from the museum, they were working over the weekend at the museum and after they went to bed on the 30th some JO kids decided to tag the entire side of the Gloster subway cars , first time anything like that happened in 50 years,I wouldn't want to be them if and when they get caught,if our members don't tar and feather them the local population likely will as we are very well liked in town.Chris-Ding- ding- ding went the bell sang that a bit off key but what the heck,I never was much of a song and dance guy anyway, two left feet and about as much rythum as a potted plant. I too have a bit of a twisted some would say sick sence of humour, so we should get on famously That's a unique thing that you put the picture up of a re-engined what looks like a cross between an RS3 and a GP9.Ron-Glad to see you again sorry to hear about the ole back,go see H&H the girls will straighten you outSeriously hang in there and thanks for the round,one less I have to buy today my Scottish side thanks youRob siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, January 1, 2008 5:42 PM G'day Gents!SPECIAL FOR Ron (DD1) . . .Appreciate your taking the time to stop in . . . wondered about you, but then you told us you'd be an infrequent visitor. Sorry to learn of your situation . . . take heart, Mate! I've had an arthritic spine for YEARS and it hurts like hell at times . . . keeps me in a reclining chair for more time than I wish to think about. Just gotta go with the hand you're dealt. But you KNOW that, eh Anyway, go ahead - order yourself a stiff belt of whatever pleases you! Remember: this is a cyber bar 'n grill - DON'T start the year off on the wrong foot by mixing reality with what goes on 'round here! CHEERS to ya! Tom Happy Railroading! Siberianmo « First«23242526272829»Last » SUBSCRIBER & MEMBER LOGIN Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more! Login Register FREE NEWSLETTER SIGNUP Get the Classic Trains twice-monthly newsletter Submit More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
Good Morning Barkeep and all present; coffee, please (with a splash); round for the house and $ for the jukebox. It's a baked potato in the pocket morning today; five degrees, snow, and just enough wind to make it interesting. Had to drag the K9 Korps in this a.m. b4 heading to work as he likes this stuff! Gas holding at $3.19 but we're waiting until the next butterfly burps in Nigeria. My, didn't West Virginia put an old time back alley mugging on OU last night.
Rob was here with comments and archival material. I assume you watched the hockey game from Buffalo. Many of the hockey players (unlike baseball players) have a sense for the history of their game. We all played on ponds when I was a pup - wouldn't know what to do if we ever go smooth ice. BTW, did anyone catch the insane bit of stick handling in the first period by Crosby? Jeesh! BTW, alma mater was well represented by Ty Conklin.
Eric - Good to hear from you and hope you are able to sit up and take nourishment. Incidentally the bit about the Pullman sections is an ancient vaudeville routine which probably was an ancestor to the classic Who's on First.
Allan visited - hope you are doing well.
Pete was in as well with wide ranging observations.
MoPac- I know it's a Buffalo, but as OSP noted the picture won't enlarge enough to get a good look at the logo. Incidentally, I have been accused of being an SPF as well.
OSP is here with a nice collection of vintage ads. Lovely stuff and well chosen.
I'll try and stop by later if time permits, but now (sigh) to a month's backlog of paper work or what I used to call, "Feeding the system," back when I was bossing.
Work safe
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Name the DoNut Machine CONTEST underway!
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Lars . . . . GreeseMeister (27 Dec)
Sven . . . . The Halo Creator (27 Dec)
Pete . . . Holey-Moley (27 Dec)
Rob . . . . Track Greeser (27 Dec)
Mike . . . . Greasel Doughcomotive, built by EMD (eat more donuts) (29 Dec)
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Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):
Rob (trolleyboy) at 1:39 PM ‘n 3:09 PM ‘n 3:13PM ‘n 5:27 PM: First off it was a pleasure speaking with you yesterday - another hour or more "logged" in some fast pace ‘n interesting chat! Many thanx for the "visit"!
Covered lots of ground in those four Posts, so let me just touch upon a few thoughts:
. . . Copperkettle! Yeah, I recall. By all means feel free to "enlighten" the new crew
. . . There are SOME things that government does well. However, if what you infer regarding that VIA Rail website is true - then shame on ‘em. I've always had far better luck with my reservations by calling their 800 number in Moncton . . . "works" for me. Just like to scope out what's available FIRST on the web site - helps to have a baseline to work from before getting into the nitty-gritty. At least that's the way I've done it.
. . . As we discussed, graffiti has become a recognized art form. HOWEVER, when placed upon OTHER PEOPLE's PROPERTIY without their PERMISSION, it becomes VANDALISM. Most doubtful the culprits will get caught, but it sure would be nice if . . .
. . . I couldn't enlarge that "mystery foto" <from Chris> large enough to make out the herald. Waiting for the "answer" too . . .
. . . TTC, Part I appreciated . . . lotsagudstuff! Perhaps best now to run the remainder on our Saturday Encores now that the holidays are over . . .
. . . Some "good stuff" about Boris! A POWERED tooth pick dispenser Good Gawd Gertie - they've been flying outta here at Mach I . . . <geesh>
You Sir, are sick - sick - sick, but a most enjoyable ‘n appreciated asset of this place called "Ours"! A Five Salute to our trolleyMAN!
MoPac Chris (MoPacBarrettTunnel) at 5:04 PM: Really a fine offering from our Resident MoPac Connection!
Methinks you are being oh-so humble about your talents . . . but that's fine. My thoughts are it ain't braggin' if you can do "it," and YOU DID!
No personal comparisons, Mate - not my style. Appreciate the thought . . . .
Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, my friend! A double cheese burger and curly fries. And a super sized Root Beer, please!
Back after missing a couple of days (bad gall stone days)! I don't have time enough tonight to catch up on everything but started on it. The rest is coming next time. Happy New Year to all of You!!!
Rob – Since I am retired I must be kind of old, but my eyesight is okay and I still know what a human being (your wife) looks like. At least in most cases and absolutely in this case! My best to your wife! You better be careful, the trainshed X2000 is sitting under is St. Louis Union Station! I promise not to tell Tom. Nice museum shots! How many operational streetcars do you have at the muesum? Would be interesting to have a look at those timetables from 1941!Tom – Wow, quite a few movies! Do you know how many different ones?You managed to catch Stealthy Pete in front of the dome car! Good shot!Thanks for the info on VIA’s use of streamliners on the “Ocean” route. I got the same impression of New Orleans as you did. Went to World’s Fair there on an extended vacation trip 1984. I did not know that #8444 was supposed to be there. It was just a nice surprise. Our (my 1st wife and I) vacation trip lasted a little bit more than four months. We bought a car and drove around. I agree, Willie Nelson’s version of City of New Oorleans is the best. It was very popular 1984! Gilbert American Flyer Instruction book looks interesting! Thanks for the Canadian History during the month of December! Always interesting to read. CM3 – I checked BCT’s website a year ago and read about the work they are doing. I understand if Boris is kind of confused when you try to explain the price for lower and upper berth. I had to read it several times and now I know it is lower because something is higher. Or whatever.Chris – Welcome to the “Nocturnal Steward Team”. Lets keep everybody else awake as well! Amtrak’s F69PHAC pulled the ICE-train on its National Tour. The X2000 was pulled/pushed by 2 F40’s. I have a website about the X2000 in the USA, check this link.http://web.mac.com/ericx2000/iWeb/X2%20in%20USA/Welcome.htmlInteresting site you have! I’ve to come back later, need to get some sleep tonight. Saw your look alike, Benny Anderson!
St. Louis. 1993.
JanOlov – Thanks for all drinks!Allan – Fax-machine instead of a PC? Hmm, maybe that would work!? Fergie – Flat bed of Keith’s? Where, when? Eric
Good evening again Leon , I think another Keith's as I wind down the day.I see that Pete adn Allan have been in as well so all in all it's been an almost everybody in day heer at teh saloon we all love so dearly.
Pete-Nice to see you caught up and on the same page as all of us again I'm glad you liked the pictrues from the 29th.I'm guessing that the car you were interested in is L&PS #8 (London & Port Stanley Railway ) she's the only operable car from the L&PS still existing. delson owns #10 and 14 but neither have been restored and are essentially just frames. We have locomotive L2 by our front gates as well. It is a beautifull carif you think teh outside is snappy you should see the inside it is the true belle of our fleet.
Allan-I'm glad you found the TTC article interesting. I'll re-run the other two parts over the comming days and weeks.There is alot of Street railway history in the city of Toronto, and of coarse teh street railways and subways still make up a viable people moving system ,moving more than a million persons a day.
Hi Tom and all,
The usual round of Tui`s for all the crew please Leon!
Tom. Thanks for all the very interesting posts and pics, am still catching up at the moment, but what a super selection of varied info and pics which are too numerous to note here, some great pics of yours and Pete`s visit to the Train Wreck Saloon and Pete`s `Puter den, you both looked real cool at Kirkwood station! My B-i-L has a room full of music from Glen Miller 78`s to the real high brow stuff, in ALL the recording formats, my wife`s sister reackons the room should be totally SOUNDPROOFED! It`s great to be back on the thread and with you all again. Many thanks for all the really nice festive season greetings.
Eric. Hope you are keeping OK and having a great "half" retirement, nice pic of your retirement party, the cake looked great! Got a great 5 disc DVD set for Xmas, on trains of course, and there is a shot of the X2000 at Union Station, Chicago, sitting next to the California Zephyr`s two FPH40`s, don`t know what year it was.
Lars. Really nice Xmas card you posted to us, hope you are feeling a lot better now and enjoying your time at the Key`s?
Rob. Thanks for your kind wishes, had a very quiet New Year all in all, I am enjoying catching up on all your posts and pics at the moment, your new Classic Juice post looks very interesting.
Pete. Hope you had a nice trip and it`s good to see you back again mate. That shot of the Flying Scotsman alongside that Deltic at King`s X is a classic one, thanks for that link to the Transport Museum, and that pic of Tom in the engineers seat is great!
CM3. Nice to see that things are back to normal for you again. Thanks for that link to steam loco #21
Ron. Sorry to hear you have that back problem, my wife did a disc whilst shopping up in Auckland, just getting out of the car, and now has sciatica as well, take care mate. Hope to see you back to normal soon!
Mike. Real nice Xmas greeting mate.
Chris. Great selection of loco pics, especially liked the Amos `n` Andy one, you will find that even as an ex-pat Brit like Pete, after the LNER my next favourite line is the ATSFRR, my favourite steam loco is the LNER A4 Pacific and then the SF Northern! My B-i-l gets a friend of his to download music off the net for his MP3 player, I am not going to mention that he comes from Glasgow, Scotland!
Fergie. Hope things are well with you.
Dan. Nice to see you popped in.
Jan. Take it easy mate. Nice selection of cab forward pics from you, thanks!
Sven. See we share the same birth date, sorry to hear that time is "tight" for you, sometimes I can`t manage to get on the thread as much as i`d like to but I find that everyone is very accepting about it. I`ve found that this is a very easy going place to be a part of.
See ya, Allan
Hi Tom and all.
It is good to be back and it will have to be a Winter Warmer on the chilly mid Missouri day please RUTH.
LARS Hope you had a great trip down to the Keys and are having a great time there. Sorry I missed your free drinks but many thanks for the great list of your thoughts.
CHRIS Many thanks for the info on those old track beds on the line from here to Washington MO.
It would be great to hear more about your trips across the pond and see the photos and if you have any questions about British railways I will be pleased to try to answer them. Glad you liked the photo of the ‘Duchess' one my favorite class of locomotives, the ‘Semis' as we knew them, were the top express locomotives that used to pass through my home town on the West Coast main line, which was the LMS before nationalization in 1948. There are three of the Duchess's preserved, No. 6233 running on main line specials (4) 6229 Duchess of Hamilton which has run on the main line in preservation days but is now needing an overhaul before running again, this loco is having a streamline casing fitted, which many of the Duchesses had when first built. The third preserved Duchess is 46235 City Of Birmingham, this loco was given to the city after her days on BR and as always been a static museum exhibit buts looks great in the BR Brunswick Green. I have been fortunate to have traveled quite a few times behind the Preserved Duchess on main line specials.
Really enjoying your photos. That was a good two hours at Kirkwood in 1985, I suppose it is the same in North America as it is in the UK, with a great deal less variation in locomotive classes in the twenty or so years since 1985, in even the short time I have been here I have noticed that the Rio Grande and Cotton Belt livered locomotives I saw when I was first here seem to have disappeared and even the Southern Pacific ones are getting rarer.
ROB Thanks for the kind words on the photos. I would like to see a photo of the new paint job on the F40s it has got to be better than the ‘Spiderman livery'
Loved the museum photos, that looks an interesting car in the blur livery in the 3rd photo of your 11: 29 post on the 29th.
ERIC If I may answer your question to Chris, I have not seen a slug unit here in Jeff City since I have been here, they use two of the smaller locomotives usually top and tailing the freight to the local factories along Industrial Drive, the track, I was told, was part of the line to the Osage River at Bagnall which traffic was mainly timber, the line as been closed for many years now. The local freight train usually works in the late evening and from the new park near Pat's Place it is possible to see the local freight being made up with the switching of the cars for the local.
Thanks for the photos, did they have any more locomotives at the World Fair in New Orleans in 1984.
CM3 Hope you had a great birthday.
Thanks for the info on the sleeping car heating at stations. I read recently that the last normal duty for a steam locomotive on BR was when a loco heated a sleeping car at Preston station, leaving only the last day special, as a farewell to BR steam.
Hopefully will shall be able to see a Duchess should be very soon in the pre war streamlining in crimson with gold-stripped LMS livery.
JAN Great to see you in the bar, hope you had a great Scottish New Year and thanks for the good wishes.
ALLAN Great to see you back in the bar as well, trust you had a great Christmas and thanks for the good wishes.
FERGIE Many thanks for the good wishes.
TOM Great to see Narrow Margin on at the Emporium a great film to start the new year, I don't think I have seen Hour Of the Gun before but as it says it is the most accurate of the OK gunfight films it will be well worth watching, and the explosive ostrich egg of the Stooges as well.
We have seen a lot of really great movies since the re-opening of the Emporium. It is hard to believe it is two years ago now. A though sudde
Leon you look a little blurry eyed this afternoon , oh I see you've been picking up quills all afternoon,what's that oh Boris has discovered a self powered tooth-pick dispenser and he's named it "spike" No your right he never has been that creative in the naming of his pets has he, oh well. Just a small tankard of Keith's for the time being.
Chris-Hmmm so I'm close am I , well if its a Pennsylvania produced "critter" then it must be an old Baldwin locomotive that's been rebuilt , perhaps an RS12 or AS616,Close a guess as I've got at the moment buddy.
It is good hockey weather,I'll have to see if my skates still fit.
I don't think there is anything wrong with that paint jobI'm sure that they will blame it on the shop intern.
Hi again Ruth I think another Keith's could go well right about now I see that the good Tom has come back in. Just in from another brisk walk with Junneau eh Some great rail ads there sir thanks for sharing don't fall asleep in your lazy boy till you read the latest tome Nice cold -14C here today, wanna come up and make some snowmen in my front yard
Hey look Pete's back thats grrreet Ruth get that man an intravenous drip for the bantham's Glad to see you've made it back and just in time too the beer fridges are empty,were almost resorting to Boris's liquid lusters from his vats in teh shed basementwe know how well his last microbrews did ( they still are opicking bits of shrappnel out of some of teh downtown buildings ) thank goodness that therush shippment of Keith's Fergie sent along made it here we almost had to drink Boris's Bohemian lager
So Ruth my good freind I think i'll join Peet in a pint or two or three
Here's some reading material from the archieves of threads past
CLASSIC JUICE #21 THE PRE-HISTORY OF THE TTC PART # 1
The Toronto Street Railway Company 1861-1869 1869-1891
This company was incorporated on March 26th 1861, with Alexander Easton becomming president.The company was given a thirty year franchise from the city to provide horsecars servcie on Yonge Street ,Queen and King Streets. Cars were not to exceed a speed of six miles per hour,and would work sixteen hours a day in summer and fourteen hours a day in winter. Headways were to be no longer than half an hour, and fares were to be five cents.
The company proceeded with it's operations until 1869, when it's assets were taken over by appointed Trustee William Cayley. In 1868, the company ahd suffered finacial setbacks and was unable to meet the intrest payments on it's bonds.On march 29th of 1873 William and George W Kiely took over the assets of the old company and were granted a new Act of Incorporation to it's franchise, to continue the companies former obligations.The company remained under Kiely control until May 1891 , when the franchise expired and the city took over operations.
Toronto Railway Company 1891-1921
The city of Toronto continued to operate the street railways until september 1st of 1891 when a group under William MaKenzie ( Of the KcKenzie & Mann Canadian Northern Fame ) bought the operations from the city and began new services on a thirty year franchise.This new company became known as The Toronto Railway Company, and would be the largest operator of street railways in the city until the franchise expired in 1921.
During the days of the TRC , electrification of the Toronto system was brought about and all horsecar lines were withdrawn ( 1893 ).Extentions to the system were made, and the introduction of open cars in the summer and closed one's for winter operation began.Stoves were also installed in the new electric cars.Double truck cars were introduced in service and in 1905 the company installed air brakes on most of the double truck cars.
In 1915, open cars were banned by the Railway and Municiple Board, and all cars henceforth were of the closed type, with doors provided both front and rear. Improved lifeguards were added to the car fronts providing new saftey features.There had been many complaints that pedestrians would suffer permanent and fatal injuries if they accidently fell from moving cars.
Another improvement which the TRC completed during it's franchise was the use of heavier rails.Horsecar rails were too light in weight, and the bigger TRC cars ran better over the heavier ones.Sunday service also became part of the TRC improvements, the first cars appearing May 23 1897 after a vote in their favour on May 15th.Even the old horsecars had a part to play as they were put to use on the heavy traffic lines as trailers for the electric cars.
As a money saver the TRC built most of their own casr in their Connaught and Roncessvalles carbarns buying only the control and brake equipmnet and trucks and motors from the "big" streetcar manufacturers of the day.Over 600 ars and variuou pieces of work equiopment were built for the TRC from 1904-1914 !
Progress came to a halt in 1910,when the TRC refused to extend it's system beyond the franchise bounderies of 1891.This decision was upheld by the courts and as a result aperiod of stymied developement took place in the new areas annexed by the city.The TRC would uphold it's position until the end of it's franchise on Aug 31,1921.The TRC as a company would continue in existance until sept. 2 1930.
Now as luck would have it our museum has preserved several pieces of home built TRC equipment, some still used daily at our museum the rest awaitng full restoration.
The only one left of 400 built between 1905-1914 Double trucker 1326 built in 1910
Flat motor W4 built in 1904
Open car 327 (1896) used daily !
enjoy
Good to see our Bar Chandler Pete has returned 'n prior to his "note," a visit from our Resident Ontario Connection, Rob the trolleyMAN! Thanx to both for keeping us AWAKE! <grin>
Something to enjoy on this wonderfully crisp winter's day here in mid-continent USA! <grin>
Now Arriving on Track #1
Six Pack Special Number Eight
RR advertisements from the Classic Era
FEC ad - \"Henry M. Flagler\" Streamliner on the Florida East Coast (from: www.getcruising.com)
Pennsylvania RR - Washington
Santa Fe - Dude Ranches
Erie Railroad
Southern Railway
New York Central System
Missed any
#1 . . . Page 107
#2 . . . Page 109
#3 . . . Page 115
#4 . . . Page 118
#5 . . . Page 128
#6 . . . Page 136
#7 . . . Page 149
Hope everyone a great New Year, back from K.C. so a round for all please RUTH..
Looks like some great posts while I have been away, so I will sit in the corner and catch up..
So keep the Bathams coming Ruth.
Pete.
Good afternoon Ruth, you look a little lost with out your daily Lars mean chat's with our beloved manager, not to worry he's been sending care packages VIA the Mentor Zepplin Company. H&H and the redoubt Copperkettle ( remember him Tom )Have been flying daily circuts from the south,the fresh oranges and kumqauts have been wonderfull as well as the freshly jarred PPF for Boris alls well. So Ruth I think a nice BK splashed coffee and a nice handfull of fresh greesballs ( need to greese the loops at the museum ) would be wonderfull.
Tom-Yes it twas a bit slow yesterday but at least a couple of us managed to stagger in, mytab for the day was fairly large , know anything about that Chris at least fergies flatbed of Keith's has arrived we had almost run out, no thanks to myself I'm sure
I have one word for the VIA website govt. run piece of well you get my meaning. You have connections though,you must be able to get a speacial travel pack for you and your beloved seriously with the shots you've shown from Alaska I don't think you can really go wrong.
As to the would be "artists" I hope they froze their fingers off. Unfortunatly if they get caught ( which is hard to beleave it would happen ) that sort of thing always gets a pat on the head and chalked upto teenage angst < barf and double barf > I never did stuff like that or even contemplated it.Hopefully the local police find them and not our shop guys,or they might find out what opther things can be dome with overhead wires and switch irons Seriuosly thought the most that will happen to them is a fine and community service <barf>Maybe if mommy and daddy have to pay for the paint job things would change but I doubt it somehow.
I only caught teh third period the overtime and the shootout, but yes these outdoor games seem to be just what the doctor ordered for the NHL,something indeed that they have done right
Sven-Sorry to hear that you aer leaving us. As Tom says I hope you can reconcider, but thank-you for the fair warning.Keep well and I hope we do hear from you from time to time. Sombody has to eat all these donuts,and just cause I'm a cops kid don't expect me do eat more than my share.
Shane-Good afternoon sir,yes Boris on the people catcher, a poster boy of sorts. For what I'm not sure,I would think it would cut down on grade crossing accidents !
MopacBarrettTunnel wrote: Today's item for group consideration pays tribute to my fondness for all things "offbeat," a trait of mine that will be explored in-depth as we go along. For now, please enjoy the following:
Today's item for group consideration pays tribute to my fondness for all things "offbeat," a trait of mine that will be explored in-depth as we go along. For now, please enjoy the following:
Well I'm still thinking I'm stumped,I'm usually pretty good at picking out oddball locomotives but this one's certainly odd. Looks to be either a Fairbanks Morse truck or an old Alco tri-mount,I'm leaning towards an FM something off maybe a baby trainmaster. Looks as though it's had a complete remotoring and rebuild,so in my oppinion it's a Katy or a C&NW franken-rebuild from the 70's and 80's
Lates just say you don't want to even hear me sing in the shower,growing up and singing in the Churc choirs etc ( yup hard to believe but I did that )lets just say that everyone was glad when I sang Solo as in so low noboday can hear him All I can say is look out bar theer's to odd sence's of humour stocking the joint <uh oh >
SPECIAL: for Sven
Hope you reconsider . . . but respect your wishes.
As I've tried to emphasize here 'n by Email, participating at "Our" Place is supposed to be for FUN - that's it!
It is time-consuming to remain on top of each 'n every Post . . . so we've pretty much divided ourselves into those who can 'n those who cannot. It's those who will not who are the problem . . . and that's certainly NOT you.
Being a part-time customer only requires you to check back to see if anyone has responded to whatever it is you've said to one or all of us . . . an option open to you.
Hope all goes well for you 'n remember, there's a stool at "Our" Place for you anytime you can drop in . . .
Best in 2008 to you 'n yours!
Good Afternoon, Ruth. I'll have my usual Gevalia, and a few donuts from the greasy machine in the Galley.
I am sitting down with a heavy heart on one of your bar stools to let you, and all the regulars, know what I finally have to admit to myself: "I can not keep up with it!"
To read, stay on top of, and actively take part in all that's going on here takes more time than what I am able to set aside. I wish I could take the same step as Eric just did, and many of you have done before, the step into retirementhood, or at least semi retirement. But unfortunately, that is not an option.
It is not easy to say this, but it is more fair than just to fade away and disappear.
I have had some very nice and rewarding weeks at your adult bar, and might pop in from time to time, at least to listen. It's been good to know you all. Thank you for your fellowship, and now understanding.
I wish you all, and the establishement, a very happy and prosperious 2008.
Sven
Wednesday's Witticism
If you must be a fool, be a rich fool ‘n people will treat you like a king.
Didn't expect much yesterday ‘n we didn't get much! However, for the hearty few that did stop by - many THANX!
Wish to make special mention to Rob (trolleyMAN), CM3 Shane (coalminer3) ‘n Lars (LoveDomes) for supporting "my other Thread" over the past several weeks ‘n months - especially Lars who pretty much kept at it during all or most of 2007! Five Salutes to y'all!
Tuesday, Jan 1st:
MoPac Chris (MoPacBarrettTunnel) at 3:49 PM: An appreciated visit ‘n Post from our Resident MoPac Connection!
Fine inclusive offering from our sage, but still YOUNG, customer down there on the 3rd stool from the far end of the bar . . . No problems though, most of us have passed thru where you are in life ‘n perhaps have forgotten so much over time . . . nice to come across someone with an appreciation for the "good stuff"!
I KNOW that designing ‘n maintaining a web site of such high quality takes lots of WORK. Yours is really a 4.0 accomplishment - I'd love to know "how" to get into that aspect of the net . . . maybe one day. <grin>
My late son was a NATURAL when it came to ‘puters ‘n the like. He NEVER had any meaningful formal training - was a commercial artist by trade - AND a musician by night <uh oh>. Anyway, he wound up being hired by one of this area's "premier" companies to run their computer graphics operation. If that talent came from me - I'd never know it! <grin>
Ron (DD1) at 5:45 PM: Aches ‘n pains from our part-time Resident Southern Gentleman down in Mississippi <aka: Transplanted New Yorker!>
I know that at times it hurts to even laugh - but you gotta stay on TOP! This character Arthur Itis is an emissary from the Devil himself - don't let him getcha DOWN!
Have another "belt&
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please (New England Four Seasons Blend will be fine), round for the house, and $ for the jukebox. Nice and cool here this a.m. (about 10 degrees with a stiff wind. The K9 Korps did not spend too much time outside this a.m. There's enough snow on the roads to make it interesting. Gas is at $3.19/gal. Happy New Year to all!
Let's see what's in the stack of stuff today.
Jan Olov stopped by. Glad to see you are stirring around!
DD1 visited briefly - get better, son! No fun dealing with that stuff.
Allan was in as well as was Fergie!
Rob - Boris on the people catcher? Is that sort of like Paddy on the Railway? Anyway, seeing him in front gives new meaning to the phrase, "Watch Out for the Cars."
MoPAc visited with SLSF material. Zoiks! A builder shot of SLSF 4501 lettered for the "Meteor!"
The G.5 was a misbegotten project form the get go. Take a perfectly good road engine and turn it into a switcher; almost as bizarre as a GP9B. In the east, P Company had some of those and eventually they began to appear in and around Providence when the worms took over the New Haven. It was an interesting sight to see them moving around in the yard with the engineer's sticking his head out of the porthole in the side of the engine. The ATSF with shrouds is a keeper as well.
Last, liked the "Buffalo" picture that you sent along as well.
OSP has been by with general comments, snappy repartee, and another Canadian history installment. Thanks for that one, sir!
You got it spot-on, Leon - EXCELLENT porch-climber!!! Almost forgot my useful contribution for the day, so please enjoy the following random images:
Anyone here besides me ever see a pic of the elusive PRR "G .5?"No matter how you "fancy it up" there's just no escaping the fact that a Genesis unit is really an unholy cross-breed between a Baldwin Shark booster unit, and Santa Fe's "Amos-n-Andy" bocab twins of 1935:{credit for the two above goes to S. Berliner III - both images are from his wonderful boxcab/Pennsy-appreciation site}Speaking of Amos-n-Andy, here's a rare shot of them wearing their as-built {and immediately removed upon delivery} truck shrouds:And finally, here's a link to a presentation you all might enjoy:http://165.91.110.43/Trains/Misc/Bicentennial.htmSYS, All!!!
Good after/morning/evening Leon or is it Cindy ( staggers towards what might be his stool )Just a small Keith's Leon,bit of a quiet one today but that's not too big a deal,ncie to see the place survived the staff party, though I noticed the police tape on the Rats Patoot room's door.<uh oh> Anybody know what happenedLast thing I remember was H&H in their wagner girl outfitsand the Mentor Jug band belting out a spirited version of the Ride of the Valkeries.I haven't seen the inspector or is side kick around either , mind you the moosehead that was on the wall is leaning against the bar and someone's put a Boston Bruins touque on it. Any thoughts Shane
Tom-So the travel bugs bit again has it Well can't keep an experianced traveller down,we still have to do the Tour of the line on the ACR and the Churchhill run,no preasure though
I haven't snapped a picture yet it hasn't made it this far south into Ontario yet,give it time though.One of the guys at the station hobbyshop got a picture off the web somewhere, so some shots are out there in the either.
Like Chris that FPA is my kind of porn too, gotta love anything that Alco or MLW put out,except the LRT's they never floated my boat.
We'll just have to give you a much more in depth tour at the second visit to the HCRY,though on a I'm PO'd side of things. I got an email from one of our freinds from the museum, they were working over the weekend at the museum and after they went to bed on the 30th some JO kids decided to tag the entire side of the Gloster subway cars , first time anything like that happened in 50 years,I wouldn't want to be them if and when they get caught,if our members don't tar and feather them the local population likely will as we are very well liked in town.
Chris-Ding- ding- ding went the bell sang that a bit off key but what the heck,I never was much of a song and dance guy anyway, two left feet and about as much rythum as a potted plant. I too have a bit of a twisted some would say sick sence of humour, so we should get on famously
That's a unique thing that you put the picture up of a re-engined what looks like a cross between an RS3 and a GP9.
Ron-Glad to see you again sorry to hear about the ole back,go see H&H the girls will straighten you outSeriously hang in there and thanks for the round,one less I have to buy today my Scottish side thanks you
SPECIAL FOR Ron (DD1) . . .
Appreciate your taking the time to stop in . . . wondered about you, but then you told us you'd be an infrequent visitor.
Sorry to learn of your situation . . . take heart, Mate! I've had an arthritic spine for YEARS and it hurts like hell at times . . . keeps me in a reclining chair for more time than I wish to think about. Just gotta go with the hand you're dealt. But you KNOW that, eh
Anyway, go ahead - order yourself a stiff belt of whatever pleases you! Remember: this is a cyber bar 'n grill - DON'T start the year off on the wrong foot by mixing reality with what goes on 'round here! CHEERS to ya!
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