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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, January 16, 2006 8:12 AM
Good Morning!

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #42

Here’s something to enjoy regarding the New York Central (NYC) in a 1950 advertisement from my private collection:

X marks my Room

. . . on a Dieseliner, and no hotel was ever finer. For New York Central travel feels just like a great hotel on wheels!

Having a Wonderful Time you see,
Loafing or working in privacy.
But when I feel more like a chat,
The lounge car is just made for that!

. . . . . . . . . . The Meals are Swell, and I am able
. . . . . . . . . . To have them at a real table.
. . . . . . . . . . It’s fun – this dining as I ride,
. . . . . . . . . . With scenery “served on the side!”

My Big, Soft Bed is six-foot-three,
Smooth Diesel power cradles me.
For sleep, no place could better suit,
Than Central’s Water Level Route!

. . . . . . . . . . No Need to Step Outside my door
. . . . . . . . . . To wash and dress next morning, for
. . . . . . . . . . My Central room’s equipped complete,
. . . . . . . . . . And when I leave, I’m fresh and neat.

My Plans are Sure! Come storm or fair,
My Dieseliner gets me there.
On New York Central trains I find Comfort is matched by peace of mind!

Make these great trains your Hotels on Wheels

New York – Chicago
20th CENTURY LIMITED
COMMODORE VANDERBILT


. . . . . Chicago – Boston
. . . . . NEW ENGLAND STATES

St. Louis, Indianapolis – New York, Boston
SOUTHWESTERN LIMITED

. . . . . Cincinnati – New York
. . . . . OHIO STATE LIMITED

New York – Cleveland
CLEVELAND LIMITED

. . . . . New York – Detroit
. . . . . THE DETROITER

And many, many others!


. . . . . NEW YORK CENTRAL RAILROAD . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . The Water Level Route – You Can Sleep . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by cnw4001 on Sunday, January 15, 2006 3:25 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by siberianmo

For: rrandb RR Been awhile, eh[?] Seen your "handle" around the Forums but not on Classic Trains, whatever works .... Your Blue Label scotch awaits at the bar![swg]

For: cnw4001 Wondered where you've been and nice to see you "emerge" on this fine day. I have the book you mentioned and yes, it is indeed a fine passenger train![tup]








When you look the tracks are those on the bridge are the C & O and they still exist. Now they go to both CUT and Queensgate Yard. Amtrak's Cardinal arrives and leaves from/to the east on that bridge. The line running down from the bridge would be going toward the connection with the B & O's line to the old pre-Queensgate facility. I think it may stil be there. The lower tracks at ground level are either PRR or B & O, I can't figure out which. B & O had a freight house just beyond the overhead bridge and the train trailing a caboose may be headed in that direction. It could also be a PRR train.
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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, January 15, 2006 1:43 PM
For: rrandb RR Been awhile, eh[?] Seen your "handle" around the Forums but not on Classic Trains, whatever works .... Your Blue Label scotch awaits at the bar![swg]

For: cnw4001 Wondered where you've been and nice to see you "emerge" on this fine day. I have the book you mentioned and yes, it is indeed a fine passenger train![tup]

Back to the afternoon's NFL game!

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by cnw4001 on Sunday, January 15, 2006 10:46 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by siberianmo

Good Morning!

PASSENGER RR FALLEN FLAG #31

Here’s another Passenger RR Fallen Flag from Classic American Railroads:

Chesapeake & Ohio (C&O)

Headquarters: Richmond, VA

Mileage in 1950:
Passenger trains of note:

George Washington (Washington & Newport News-Cincinnati & Louisville)
F.F.V. (Washington & Newport News-Cincinnati & Louisville)





For a great picture of the FFV arriving in Cincinnati look in The American Passenger Train by Mike Schafer. Page 117.

It is on the elevated line just after crossing the Ohio River bridge and before arriving at Cincinnati Union Terminal.

Never rode the FFV but did use the George Washington roundtrip between Cincinnati and Washington.
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Posted by rrandb on Sunday, January 15, 2006 9:57 AM
dear tom sorry its been awhile. cyclical nature of my trade. quick thank you to all the nice folks . please tell then i will post again at "our" place when I have more time. again an amazing amount of material. [bow] as always ENJOY RMR
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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, January 15, 2006 8:44 AM
For: rgroeling Chris - coborn35 Max - AMTK200 - Thanx for stopping by.[tup]

For: passesngerfan Al Appreciate the willingness to join in and begin a conversation.[tup] Looks like between you, Lars, BK and moi we just may get this thread "kick started" into something more than my Posting Place![swg]

I never adopted the term "rail fan," in that somewhere along the line, it seems to have taken on many different definitions. But by any other "name," I suppose I am and have been. I have deliberately booked the longer journey from point A to Z, just to remain on board the train. Also never really get upset by delays along the way, for the idea of passenger rail travel for me is not so much getting there, but the fun of getting there.[tup]

Don't forget, it's Sunday Photo Posting Day! at the bar. No acknowledgments going on today, no dialogue 'til Monday - just some fun.[tup]

Later!

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

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Posted by passengerfan on Sunday, January 15, 2006 7:37 AM
Ther was a great bargain in rail travel if one had the time back in the 1960's and that I happened on quite by accident.
I missed the WB CITY OF PORTLAND in Omaha by about ten minutes and inquired of the station agent if there was an alternative as I did not feel like an almost 24 hour layover in Omaha. He said yes but I would not get to Seattle any faster then if I layed over. The alternative was to take the CITY OF SAN FRANCISCO to Oakland board the CASCADE and then take the UP pool train from Portland to Seattle. I would arrive at the same time as if I had layed over for 24 hours and caught the next CITY OF PORTLAND from Omaha. There was no difference in fare so being a railfan I would rather spend the time on the train then sitting in a bar in Omaha for nearly 24 hours.

I later found out that one could take the GN, NP or UP from Chicago to San Francisco with no difference in fares. The GN and NP routing was via the EMPIRE BUILDER and NORTH COAST LIMITED to Portland and the SP CASCADE to Oakland. All that was required was a little extra time.

LARS. Loved the GN Great Dome Coach pix. The Great Northern called all of their Domes the short Budd coach domes and the full length dome lounge cars Great Domes. Remember the adverttising on the evening news in Seattle at the time they were introduced "Great Northern's Incomparable Great Domed Empire Builder. Great for freight too." The EMPIRE BUILDER between Spokane and Chicago provided more dome seats than any other train in America prior to the introduction of the Auto-Train.
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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, January 15, 2006 7:35 AM
Good Morning!

PASSENGER RR FALLEN FLAG #31

Here’s another Passenger RR Fallen Flag from Classic American Railroads:

Chesapeake & Ohio (C&O)

Headquarters: Richmond, VA

Mileage in 1950:

5,343 (including ferries)

Locomotives in 1963:

Steam: 3 (fireless “cookers”)
Diesel: 1,053

Rolling stock in 1963:

Freight cars: 92,992
Passenger cars: 324

Principal routes in 1950:

Chicago-Cincinnati, OH-Ashland, KY-Staunton, VA-Newport News, VA
Gordonsville, VA-Washington, DC
Clifton Forge-Richmond VA
Ashland-Louisville, KY
Limeville (Ashland)-Columbus, OH-Toledo, OH
Columbus-Pomeroy, OH
Catlettsburg (Ashland)-Elkhorn City, KY
Ronceverte-Durbin & Bartow, WV
Chicago-Grand Rapids, MI-Detroit, MI-St. Thomas, ON-Buffalo & Niagra Falls, NY
Grand Rapids-Petoskey & Bay View, MI
Erieau, ON-Ludington, MI
Ludington-Milwaukee & Manitowoc & Kewaunee, WI (ferry routes to each from Ludington)
Toledo-Bay City, MI
Port Huron-Bay City-Elmdale, MI
Holland-Muskegon-Hart, MI

Passenger trains of note:

George Washington (Washington & Newport News-Cincinnati & Louisville)
F.F.V. (Washington & Newport News-Cincinnati & Louisville)
Sportsman (Washington & Newport News-Cincinnati & Detroit)
Pere Marquettes (Detroit-Grand Rapids; Chicago-Grand Rapids & Muskegon; Detroit-Saginaw, MI)
Resort Special (Chicago-Petoskey; later, Washington-White Sulphur Springs, WV)


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:31 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by passengerfan
GN did entertain the thought of operating a section of the ORIENTAL LIMITED over the SP&S -GN -WP inland route to San Francisco but it was felt that it would not be cost effective to bring the line from the Columbia River to Bend, Oregon up to passenger train standards. But as for freight this route was and still is profitable to this day. This is the BNSF back door into California from the north and is heavily utilized.

TTFN AL

The Line did have a mixed Train though up unitl Amtrak Started though but it would of been cool to be able to ride the Oriental Limited later the Western Star on it.
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Posted by coborn35 on Saturday, January 14, 2006 10:26 PM
I have the orignal manuscript of Patrick Dorins book, L&N passenger operations. Very interesting.

Mechanical Department  "No no that's fine shove that 20 pound set all around the yard... those shoes aren't hell and a half to change..."

The Missabe Road: Safety First

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 14, 2006 7:05 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by siberianmo

Good Morning!

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #41

Here’s something to enjoy regarding the GREAT NORTHERN RAILWAY in a 1949 advertisement from my private collection:

. . . . . Glacier National Park . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . IN THE MONTANA ROCKIES . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

HIKE on high trails.

RIDE to ancient glaciers.

SEE snowclad mountains.

FISH in great trout waters.

TOUR in open top motor coaches.

EAT and sleep in fine hotels.

ON THE MAIN LINE OF THE GREAT NORTHERN

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)][oX)]


Yes!!! The Empire Builder....thanks siberianmo !!! Keep up the awesome postings!!!
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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, January 14, 2006 6:57 PM
For: LoveDomes Lars

Great pix - Thanx for Posting 'em![tup]

Wonder if these will "work" their "magic" and bring passengerfan Al out from under those tax forms[?][swg]

See ya at the bar!

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Posted by LoveDomes on Saturday, January 14, 2006 1:37 PM
Hello Tom,

Some photos on this quiet Saturday (I'll provide these and more tomorrow over at the bar for your Photo Posting Sunday!)

GN #1320 (from: www.trainweb.org)


GN #1321 (from: www.trainweb.org)


GN #1322 (from: www.trainweb.org)


GN #1323 (from: www.trainweb.org)


Don't you just love those domes?

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, January 14, 2006 8:05 AM
Good Morning!

PASSENGER RR FALLEN FLAG #30

Here’s another Passenger RR Fallen Flag from Classic American Railroads:

Illinois Central (IC)

Headquarters: Chicago, IL

Mileage:

1950: 4,779
1995: 2,732 (including rights)

Locomotives in 1963

Diesels: 629

Rolling stock in 1963:

Freight cars: 49,226
Passenger cars: 857

Principal routes:

Chicago-New Orleans via Mattoon & Carbondale, IL, & Grenada, MS
Memphis-New Orleans via Vicksburg, MS & Baton Rouge, LA
Memphis-Jackson, MS via Greenwood, MS
Fulton, KY-Birmingham, AL
Freeport-Centralia, IL via Clinton & Vandalia
Chicago-Omaha, NE
Tara (Fort Dodge)-Sioux City, IA
Cherokee, IA-Sioux Falls, SD
Manchester-Cedar Rapids, IA
Waterloo, IA-Albert Lea, MN
Centralia, IL-Madison, WI
Gilman, IL-St. Louis
St. Louis-Du Quoin, IL
Edgewood, IL-Fulton, KY
Fulton-Louisville, KY via Paducah
Effingham, IL-Indianapolis, IN
Mattoon-Peoria, IL via Decatur
Jackson-Gulfport, MS
Meridian, MS-Shreveport, LA

Passenger trains of note:

Chickasaw (Memphis-St. Louis & Chicago)
City of Miami (Chicago & St. Louis-Miami & St. Petersburg, FL; joint with CG, ACL and FEC)
City of New Orleans (Chicago & St. Louis & Louisville-New Orleans)
Daylight (Chicago-St. Louis
Delta Express (Memphis-Vicksburg, MS)
Green Diamond (Chicago-St. Louis)
Hawkeye (Chicago-Sioux City
Iowan (Chicago-Sioux City)
Irvin S. Cobb (Louisville-New Orleans)
Kentucky Cardinal (Louisville-Memphis)
Land O’ Corn (Chicago-Waterloo, IA)
Louisiane (Chicago & St. Louis-New Orleans)
Magnolia Star (Chicago-New Orleans)
Mid-American (Chicago-Memphis)
Night Diamond (Chicago-St. Louis)
Panama Limited (Chicago & St. Louis-New Orleans)
Planter (Louisville-Memphis)
Seminole (Chicago-Jacksonville, FLA via Birmingham & Columbus, GA)
Southwestern Limited & Northeastern Limited (Meridian-Shreveport)


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, January 13, 2006 7:14 PM
For: LoveDomes Lars

Great pix - much appreciated! Also thanx for stopping by. [tup]

For: passengerfan Al

Yes, I know how to get you out of your office![swg] After all of these months, your Achilles Heel is ever vulnerable!

There's so much history tied up in our railroads and you touche upon one facet in particular - the development of national Parks. Not all, but many, may trace their success to the railroads.

Good stuff! Thanx for stopping by.[tup][tup]

See you both at the bar!

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Posted by passengerfan on Friday, January 13, 2006 7:00 PM
Good afternoon Tom and Lars.

Tom really knows how to twist my tail when he brings up anything GN or Domes and that Glacier park advertisement did it again.

For those who have never visited the Park I believe it is the most unspoiled of any of the National Parks with the possible exception of Denali National Park.

The GN was the major developer of the Park and built most of the lodges and Chalets that are in use to this day at the park. In the early years of the park the GN was the only way to get their and later U S Highway 2 ran along the Parks southern boundary and over Marias Pass within site of the GN mainline for most of the way. Even today the old U S 2 is not much of a highway and probably the main reason Amtrak chose the EMPIRE BUILDER route over the NORTH COAST LIMITED route.

I understand that many of the Glaciers in the park are melting. So much for Global Warming. Actually it seems to go in cycles the warming of the earth and the cooling off so don't know which to believe. But if anyone is looking for a truly enjoyable summer vacation mecca I can't recommend Glacir National Park enough.

I have seen the majority of the Western National Parks, Yellowstone, Mt. Rainier, Olympic, Yosemite, Grand Canyon, Denali, and Crater Lake and for me I have a special fondness for Glacier over all of the others. Don't ask me what it is about Glacier but one trip their seems to be like a magnet for you and you will have a tendency to return time and time again.

A little off subject maybe but the EMPIRE BUILDER still goes their today.

In the not to distant past the GN WESTERN STAR was the Park train in summer months often operating with five and six offline sleeping cars to the Park from as far away as New York and Los Angeles and sometimes serving as the hotel space while at the park. The GN never permitted the EMPIRE BUILDER to carry off line sleeping cars as only a matching consist would do for the GN's finest. Prior to the inauguration of the WESTERN STAR the ORIENTAL LIMITED was the train to Glacier National Park.

TTFN AL
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Posted by LoveDomes on Friday, January 13, 2006 1:58 PM
Hello Tom,

Check these fine domes out:

from: www.trainweb.org


from: www.trainweb.org


from: www.trainweb.org


from: www.trainweb.org


Lots more where these came from! (All posted under the terrms listed by trainweb.org)

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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, January 13, 2006 8:21 AM
Good Morning!

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #41

Here’s something to enjoy regarding the GREAT NORTHERN RAILWAY in a 1949 advertisement from my private collection:

. . . . . Glacier National Park . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . IN THE MONTANA ROCKIES . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

HIKE on high trails.

RIDE to ancient glaciers.

SEE snowclad mountains.

FISH in great trout waters.

TOUR in open top motor coaches.

EAT and sleep in fine hotels.

ON THE MAIN LINE OF THE GREAT NORTHERN

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, January 12, 2006 7:05 PM
Hello LoveDomes Lars & passengerfan Al

Good to see you both over here for a bit - much appreciated! [tup][tup]

Since the idea of this particular thread is to engage conversation centered about Classic Passenger Trains you both have made fine contributions.

Obvioiusly, we "know each other" from the bar ("Our" Place) so there's no need for me to act is if what you have provided is "news" as such. However, perhaps others may pick up on what's been provided and keep the ball rolling.

As you both know, everything here, as been previously Posted over on "Our" Place so this is a "down 'n dirty" resource for finding something you may have missed the first time around. [swg]

Thanx again and see ya at the bar!

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Posted by passengerfan on Thursday, January 12, 2006 5:16 PM
Good Afternoon Tom
Thought I would drop into this forum fo a brief visit and happened to see the bit about the Great Northern EMPIRE BUILDER. Having completed my first book on this train and now awaiting the publishing I have researched the train thoroughly and remember it was not inaugurated until 1929.
The GN jointly with the NP and their subsidiary SP&S did provide service to San Francisco with two steamships the SS GREAT NORTHERN and SS NORTHERN PACIFIC. At one time they were the fastest ships on the west coast, and competed with the SP trains between Portland and San Francisco. The SP&S operated a boat train from Portland to the mouth of the Columbia river where passengers boarded one of the two ships for the run to San Francisco. For a few years until the SP was able to operate faster trains over their route the SP&S -GN-NP route was the faster of the two competitors.

GN did entertain the thought of operating a section of the ORIENTAL LIMITED over the SP&S -GN -WP inland route to San Francisco but it was felt that it would not be cost effective to bring the line from the Columbia River to Bend, Oregon up to passenger train standards. But as for freight this route was and still is profitable to this day. This is the BNSF back door into California from the north and is heavily utilized.

TTFN AL
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Posted by LoveDomes on Thursday, January 12, 2006 4:13 PM
Hello Siberianmo!

Thought I'd "surface" now that I've been browsing your thread since its inception. Very informative posts and very generous of you to share your time and talents here in the ether. So many simply take and never give a thing back.

Here's a little something that may interest whoever reads these posts:

So, how about the Staten Island Rapid Tranist of old (SIRT)[?] Tom put out some great stuff on that electrified surface “subway” on another thread some time back. (Sorry, I KNOW it wasn’t a subway, but so many people look at those old cars and swear that is what they were.) If any commuter line could be put in a class as a Classic, put me down for nominating the SIRT!

SIRT – The old and the new (1973)


Take note: from internet sources of the public domain. Credit to: Photo by: Doug Grotjahn Collection of: Joe Testagrose

Until the next time, keep the wind at your back, the sun in your eyes, and watch out for the . . . . . pole![censored] [swg]

Lars

P.S. Thank you Tom for use of your photo album for storage.[tup]
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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, January 12, 2006 7:26 AM
Good Morning!

PASSENGER RR FALLEN FLAG #29

Here’s another Passenger RR Fallen Flag from Classic American Railroads:

Louisville & Nashville (L&N)

Headquarters: Louisville, KY

Mileage in 1950: 4,779

Locomotives in 1963:

Diesel: 732

Rolling stock in 1963:

Freight cars: 59,077
Passenger cars: 483

Principal lines in 1950:

Cincinnati-New Orleans via Louisville, Nashville, Lewisborg, TN & Birmingham
Nashville-St. Louis via Evansville, IN
Louisville-Evansville
Memphis Junction, KY (Bowling Green)-Memphis
Cincinnati-Atlanta via Knoxville, TN & Cartersville, GA
Flomaton, AL-Chattahoochie, FL
Anchorage-Hazard, KY via Lexington
Corbin-Baxter, KY
Lebanon Junction-Sinks, KY

Passenger trains of note:

Azalean (New York-New Orleans via Montgomery; joint with PRR, SR and Atlanta & West Point.
Crescent (New York-New Orleans via Montgomery; joint with PRR, SR and A&WP.
Dixie Flagler (Chicago-Miami via Evansville, Nashville & Atlanta)
Dixie Flyer (Chicago-Florida via Evansville, Nashville & Atlanta)
Dixieland (Chicago-Miami via Louisville, Nashville & Montgomery)
Flamingo (Cincinnati-Jacksonville via Corbin, KY)
Georgian (Chicago & St. Louis-Atlanta)
Gulf Wind (New Orleans-Jacksonville; joint with ACL)
Humming Bird (Chicago & St. Louis & Cincinnati-New Orleans & Memphis; joint with Chicago & Eastern Illinois)
Pan-American (Cincinnati-Memphis & New Orleans)
Piedmont Limited (New York-New Orleans via Montgomery; joint with PRR, SR and A&WP)
Southland (Detroit-Florida via Louisville & Corbin)
South Wind (Chicago-Miami via Louisville, Nashville & Montgomery)


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 4:19 PM
G’day!!

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #40

Here’s something to enjoy regarding the BRITISH RAILWAYS in a 1948 advertisement from my private collection:

. . . . . 25% Reduction IN TOUR FARES . . . . .

. . . . . For Americans Visiting The BRITISH ISLES . . . . .

When planning your British Isles holiday, make a list of all the places you want to see in England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales. Your Travel Agent will be glad to help you prepare your complete individual itinerary. That way you’ll effect substantial savings on planned tour tickets offered by British Railways.

. . . . . . . . . . See More in Britain! . . . . . . . . . .

Naturally, you’ll visit our great cities, our world-famous historic and scenic shrines (all within a day’s train trip from London) . . . but with more time you can enjoy so many equally memorable travel experiences in our less publicized byways. So plan to stay longer – discover for yourself the charm of our villages, countryside and rugged coastline.

. . . . . . . . . . Travel means BRITISH RAILWAYS

TRAINS . . . Swift, comfortable transportation to every corner of the British Isles.

HOTELS . . . 45 hotels associated with British Railways, strategically situated for your tour or business trips.

CROSS-CHANNEL FACILITIES . . . Railway-operated steamer services over a wide variety of routes to Ireland and the Continent. Depend on the all-inclusive travel services of British Railways for every phase of your tour of the British Isles. We suggest you secure your rail transportation, as well as Pullman, cross-channel steamer and hotel reservations before your leave.

British Railways – official agents for air tickets on British European Air Corporation routes in the British Isles.

Write for British Railways – new and amusing booklet, ”WHAT, NO ICE?” – written especially for Americans planning to visit us; as well as the full-color map folder, ”THE BRITISH ISLES” both free upon request to Dept. 25 at any of the offices shown below.

For tickets, reservations and authoritative travel information on the British Isles

CONSULT YOUR LOCAL TRAVEL AGENT or any British Railways office:

. . . . . NEW YORK 20, N. Y., 9 ROCKEFELLER Pl.
. . . . . CHICAGO 3, ILL, 39 So. Lasalle St.
. . . . . LOS ANGELES 14, CAL., 510 W. 6th St.
. . . . . TORONTO, ONT., 69 Yonge Street

. . . . . . . . . . BRITISH RAILWAYS . . . . . . . . . .


Enjoy! [tup]

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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 6:42 AM
Good Morning!

PASSENGER RR FALLEN FLAG #28

Here’s another Passenger RR Fallen Flag from Classic American Railroads:

Bangor & Aroostook (BAR)

Headquarters: Bangor, ME

Mileage:

1950: 616
2000: 433

Locomotives in 1963:

Diesels: 46

Rolling stock in 1963:

Freight cars: 4,646 – Passenger cars: 2

Principal lines in 1950 (all in Maine):

Searsport-Derby-Fort Kent
Brownville-Brownville Jct.
Northern Maine Jct.-Bangor
Derby-Greenville
Old Town-South Lagrange
South Lagrange-West Seboois
Oakfield-Phair-Presque Isle-Van Buren
Van Buren-St. Francis
Squa Pan-Stockholm
Mapleton-Presque Isle
Caribou-Limestone
Phair-Fort Fairfield

Passenger Trains of note:

Aroostock Flyer (Bangor-Van Buren via Houlton and Presque Isle, with through cars from Boston via Northern Maine Jct.)
Potatoland Special (Bangor-Van Buren via Houlton and Presque Isle, with through cars from Boston via Northern Maine Jct.)


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 7:47 PM
For: BK

Thanx for the Post! As you know, the New Haven is one of my all time favorite roads. Traveled aboard many a train between Grand Central Terminal and New London, CT back in the mid-50's.

Appreciate your continuing support of this thread. Have a safe journey and we'll keep your place at the bar![tup][tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by BudKarr on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 12:30 PM
Hello Captain Tom,

Here is a contribution from me in support of what you are doing with this thread, something you have seen before over at the bar, but not here:

I cannot imagine that anything coming from me will be either enlightening or informative to those who know the NH. But here are a few tid bits of information regarding that prized railroad:

* Unlike the majority of other railroads, passenger train revenue was largely responsible for the success of the company.

* The railroad was considered to be a compact railroad, connecting virtually all of the towns and cities of Connecticut, Rhode Island and Massachusetts.

* The final order for steam locomotives by the NH was in the 1930's for ten streamlined Baldwin 4-6-4's Hudsons.

* The showcase of the NH direct rail link between Boston and New York was called the Shore Line Route. This route covered 229 miles and was the only direct rail link between the largest of the northeast cities.

* In 1938, a new service appeared on NH freights called trailer-on-flatcar (TOFC) and was introduced between Boston and New York City.

* Patrick McGinnis took over the NH in 1954 and changed the livery to the flashy orange, red and black which won immediate acceptance by the traveling public. Unfortunately, the rest of Mr. McGinnis' efforts were not so well received as the railroad began its downward spiral.

* A toy train company owned by A. C. Gilbert in New Haven, Connecticut, successfully marketed their NH replica trains. The GE EP5 electric locomotive was one. Some years earlier, Gilbert's line of trains, called American Flyer, produced the Pullman-Standard "turtle roofed" toy streamliners that became known throughout the region as "American Flyer cars" in the real railroad world. (Life imitating art?)

* Perhaps one of the NH's most successful ventures involved the purchase of Rail Diesel Cars from the Budd Company of Philadelphia in 1952-53. Forty cars were put in use over nearly 920 route miles of service. These self-contained cars, called Shoreliners, quickly ignitied the commuter rail growth for decades to come.

* The NH vanished from the scene in 1969 when a federal court ordered that it be included in the Penn Central, which had previously absorbed the bankrupt Pennsylvania and New York Central railroads. The PC went bust in 1970.

Note: The aforementioned was obtained through internet resources.

I will be away for some time, as explained over at the bar. Until the next time!


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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 8:19 AM
G’day!

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #39

Here’s something to enjoy regarding the Pennsylvania Railroad (PRR) in a 1949 advertisement from my private collection:

The New BROADWAY LIMITED

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . NEW YORK – CHICAGO . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Now in Service . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

THE NEWLY-EQUIPPED Broadway Limited presents completely new conception of travel . . . with new styling, appointments, riding ease and beauty . . . more comforts and conveniences than ever before, representing the finest that modern design and engineering can offer.

Beautiful new Lounge and Observation Cars . . . attractive new Dining Cars . . . distinctively new, all-room sleeping cars . . . plus the Broadway Limited’s traditional hospitality – all for your personal travel pleasure! WE invite you to make a reservation for your next trip.

NEW MID-TRAIN LOUNGE AND OBSERVATION LOUNGE CARRichly appointed for leisure. Magazines, buffets.

NEW MASTER DINING CARAttractively furnished and decorated. Enjoy delicious food . . . meticulous service. Entire car reserved for dining.

ROOMETTES for one. Full-length bed, wardrobe, complete toilet facilities.

DUPLEX ROOMS for one person. Full length bed becomes comfortable divan during day. Toilet facilities.

COMPARTMENTS for two. Sofa-seat and lounge chair. Lower and upper beds. Wardrobe, enclosed toilet annex.

BEDROOMSfor one or two – in three new styles. Lower and upper beds, wardrobe, enclosed toilet annex.

DRAWING ROOMS for three. Sofa-seat and lounge chairs . . . three beds. Wardrobe, enclosed toilet annex.


. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . PENNSYLVANIA RAILROAD . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 12:58 AM
For: AMTK200

Can't say that I do - however, why not tell us about it[?]

And, it's my pleasure to provide these pieces of Classic Trains info! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 9, 2006 9:40 PM
Tom,
Thanks for sharing. Remember in the 1920's they were talking about extending the Empire Builder to San Francisco?
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Posted by BudKarr on Monday, January 9, 2006 6:01 PM
Hello Captain Tom!

Just a visit to your "other thread" to help keep you up and running. As always, your Posts of the Nostalgia and Fallen Flags are precisely on point when it comes to the Classic Trains theme of this forum.

See you at the bar!

BK in Alberta, Canada

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