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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 5:23 AM

from: www.viarail.ca

We open at 6 AM. (All time zones - Don’t ask how we do that!)[swg]


WEDNESDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of POSTS


Mid-week and time to begin the day with some pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery, perhaps an order from our Menu Board for a <light> or <traditional> breakfast, and of course a least one mug of our freshly brewed coffee![tup]


Daily Wisdom

Folks that always ride in a high lope miss the fun along the trail.


Info for the Day:

Railroads from Yesteryear – Western Pacific (WP) arrives next Tuesday!


* Weekly Calendar:

TODAY: Pike Perspective’s Day!
Thursday: Fish ‘n Chips Nite!
Friday: Pizza Nite & Steak Nite!
Saturday: Steak ‘n Trimmin’s Nite! – and –
ENCORE! Saturday


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Comedy Corner

Yarns from the Barn
(from barndad Doug’s Posts)


[:I] An 80-year old man goes to the doctor for a check-up. The doctor is amazed at what good shape the guy is in and asks, "How do you stay in such great physical condition?"
I'm a golfer," says the old guy, "and that's why I'm in such good shape. I'm up well before daylight and out golfing up and down the fairways."
"Well," says the doctor, "I'm sure that helps, but there's got to be more to it. How old was your dad when he died?"
"Who said my dad's dead?"
The doctor is amazed. "You mean you're 80 years old and your dad's still alive. How old is he?"
"He's 100 years old," says the old golfer. "In fact he golfed with me this morning, and that's why he's still alive . . . he's a golfer too."
"Well," the doctor says, "that's great, but I'm sure there's more to it than that. How about your dad's dad? How old was he when he died?"
"Who said my grandpa's dead?"
Stunned,he doctor asks, "You mean you're 80 years old and your grandfather's still living! Incredible, how old is he?"
"He's 118 years old," says the old golfer. .
The doctor is getting frustrated at this point, "So, I guess he went golfing with you this morning too?"
"No. Grandpa couldn't go this morning because he's getting married today."
At this point the doctor is close to losing it "Getting married!! Why would a 118 year-old guy want to get married?"
"Who said he wanted to?" [:I]


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The Mentor Village Emporium Theatre

NOW SHOWING:

Double Features and Three Stooges Short Subject!

. . . Sunday, April 16th thru 22nd: The Molly Macquires (1970) starring: Sean Connery, Richard Harris & Samantha Eggers – and – It Happened to Jane (1959) starring: Doris Day, Jack Lemmon & Ernie Kovacs. SHORT: Punch Drunks (1934).



SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) barndad Doug Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 05:21:58 (307) Theme: B&M – RR History in Photos & Joke

(2) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 05:23:08 (307) Tuesday’s Info & Summary

(3) passengerfan Al Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 07:27:36 (307) Canadian Pacific Streamlined Obs

(4) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 07:35:32 (307) RR from Yesteryear Ad

(5) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 07:48:09 (307) Theme: B&M – Encore: Fallen Flag

(6) coalminer3 CM3 Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 08:05:00 (307) Theme: Encore: B&M The Way It was, etc.

(7) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 08:08:37 (307) RR BOOK RELAY! Status

(8) BudKarr BK Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 08:43:43 (307) BK Report; Theme: B&M 3 Pix!

(9) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 09:00:00 (307) RR from Yesteryear – Boston & Maine

(10) wanswheel Mike Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 09:40:36 (307) Theme: B&M URLs, etc.

(11) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 11:19:04 (307) Acknowledgments, etc.

(12) coalminer3 CM3 Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 12:37:12 (307) B’day!

(13) BudKarr BK Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 12:57:07 (307) huh[?]

(14) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 13:15:39 (307) Encore: Top 10 Contributors, etc.

(15) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 13:24:39 (307) Prelude to a party!

(16) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 13:30:52 (308) B’day

(17) LoveDomes Lars Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 14:01:25 (308) B’day

(18) BudKarr BK Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 14:05:48 (308) B’day

(19) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 14:11:31 (308) B’day

(20) LoveDomes Lars Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 14:19:06 (308) B’day

(21) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 14:25:21 (308) Juneau’s B’day!

(22) BudKarr BK Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 14:31:46 (308) B’day

(23) LoveDomes Lars Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 15:02:13 (308) B’day

(24) passengerfan Al Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 15:53:43 (308) FINALLY!

(25) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 16:00:41 (308) B’day

(26) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 16:08:18 (308) B’day Watch List!

(27) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 16:15:31 (308) B’day

(28) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 16:16:35 (308) B’day

(29) pwolfe Pete Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 16:34:28 (308) B’day

(30) West Coast S Dave Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 17:27:30 (308) B’day

(31) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 17:58:24 (308) B’day

(32) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 18:11:51 (308) End of Bash!

(33) West Coast S Dave Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 18:20:54 (308) B’day

(34) BudKarr BK Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 19:03:45 (308) Post Party comments

(35) barndad Doug Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 20:42:12 (309) B’day

(36) pwolfe Pete Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 21:14:35 (309) Post Party comments

(37) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 19 Apr 2006, 00:05:06 (309) He’s baaaaaaaack! Inclusive Post, etc.




That’s it! [tup][;)]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

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Posted by trolleyboy on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:05 AM
Hello Hello Hello, This is a test of is the forum working or not system. Sorry just being a bit sarcastic there, for three days I've been bumped out and off by internal server errors. At least it has been nice enough to tell me to contact the webmaster before I'm booted to oblivion [:(!]


First off happy birthday to the international man of many fingers & streamliners [bday]

Allow me to purchase you several CR's upon your return ( least I can do since I missed
the party )

On a general state of the bar side of things,at least i have been able to read and see what's been going on the last three days or so [sigh]

Wonderfull B&M info today Tom and CM3 don't call me Shane great contributions from yourself as well. I have to say that i've always loved the classic read(maroon) and yellow minuteman paint jobs on the RS3's and 's and early F units and geeps. In my opinion next to the CPR Grey and Maroon the early B&M paint job was the nicest and most photogenic.

Lars I;m thinking that your time off for Tom idea is a good one,drop me a line and let me know what you have in mind.

Pete Your friends photo's are wonderfull, great action steamshots[tup]Nice to see that your photobucket account is going great guns.

Tom Your montage of RDC's on Sunday were worth the wait [tup][tup]Give a [bday] treat to Juneau for us will you [tup]

Doug Yes you've done and busticated the groanameter again. I tell you it's comming ouit of your next paycheque [swg] Neat story on the bells.Those old articles are quite good.


Well it's late, I'mgoing to try a find where in the either all of my posts have disappeared from the last three days ( gone I suspect ) Look for the reposting ( hopefully ) come here Boris I need to knock on wood so your head should do the trick.[;)][swg]next calssic steam up will be the Ottawa Arnprior and Parry Sound ( hopefully ) originally I attempted to post it on Monday.

See everyone tomorrow (fingers and toes crossed )

Rob

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Posted by pwolfe on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 9:14 PM
Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams please LEON.

The trip to the garden center took longer than expected. It is good to see DAVE and TED at the party[tup]. A lot of good things today many thanks TOM and DOUG for the jokes.
I tried the Geezers quiz Tom and got 14 right it would probably have been one more but I do not know what cooties are [%-)] ( I tried the dictionary but it said some thing about electronics even more[%-)]).
Anyway TOM I hope Juneau had a good day too and thanks for the hard work it certainly gave me some[:D]s despite my puter being a pig for most of the day. PETE.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 8:42 PM
Good evening Tom and friends? Too late to party with Al alias "the birthday boy"? I'll have a bottomless draught, a round for the house, and an extra round for Al

Hey Al did you know .....

In America, they say it's 10:00 do you know where your children are?

In England, they say it's 10:00 do you know where your husband is?

In Paris, they say it's 10:00 do you know where your wife is?

And in California, they say it's 10:00 do you know what time it is?

And Al have you heard this oldster joke?

An 83-year old woman decided that she'd seen and done everything, and the time had come to depart from this world.
After considering various methods of doing away with herself, she came to the conclusion that the quickest and surest method would be to shoot herself through the heart. The trouble was, she wasn't certain about exactly where her heart was, so she phoned her doctor and asked him. He told her that her heart was located two inches below her left nipple.

So she shot herself in the left kneecap.

and then did ya'll know about this story from Al past?

Al was working with an electric saw when he accidentally sawed off all twenty fingers. He quicky rushed to the emergency room. The doctor there told him, “Give me the fingers and I'll see what I can do'.”
“But I don't have the fingers!”
“What! You don't have the fingers!?” said the doctor, “You should have brought them to me. We have all kinds of operations we could have done like microsugery and stuff. We could have put them back as good as new.”

“But Doc, I couldn't pick them up.”

Ho boy ... someone call the groan-o-meter repairman, and set-up another round on me.

[bday] Al!

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Posted by BudKarr on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 7:03 PM
Hello Captain Tom and all assembled!

Here I finally made it to a Birthday Bash! and guess what? The "man of the hour" is as scarce as "hen's teeth!"[swg]

No matter - I have been to parties where no paricular reason was needed to join in the revelry!

I have finally caught up with the pages I missed during this most recent absence. If I failed to mention, there have been some wonderful postings made during the past 10 days or so. Absolutely wonderful. Those URL references from Mr. Wanswheel are not only well thought out, but so very much on point. Extremely talented guy, in my opinion.

Then, of course, there have been the submissions by Mr. Barndad and the jokes! Could not forget those![swg] Following in no particular order or priority is Mr. Coalminer with his ever mindful insights and humor.

Captain Tom you MAY be wondering "what happened to this day," but my suggestion is to go with the flow and stick with those who have demonstrated a willingness to keep this thread moving forward.[tup]

Cannot forget my "bookend" friend, Mr. LoveDomes - you are far more insightful and outspoken than I. Perhaps that is why we are indeed, "bookends!"[swg] You make my opinions of past and present, quite "mild" in comparison!<grin> But, I always appreciate honesty and expect that you are indeed a personification of the "truth teller."

Finally, I wonder aloud what has happened to Mr. Trolleyboy - Mr. Nickinwestwales and so many others who just days ago frequented this site with an abundance of humor, informative postings and support. Ah, the night IS still "young," but the 'window' has indeed closed on this party.

Thank you for the invitation and let us all look forward to brighter days and times!

BK in beautiful Alberta Canada's high mountain country!
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Posted by West Coast S on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 6:20 PM
Ok Tom, here goes.. (1) B (7) C
(2) C (8) C (Butch wax conjurs up all sorts of seedy images)
(3) C (9) A
(4) A (10) C (13) C (16) C (19) A
(5) B (11) C (14) C (17) B (20) A
(6) C (12) B (15) A (18) C

Ok, how bad did I foul up??? Talk about a trip back in time, i've not thought of some of these in deacdes!!!! Trust Tom to be imagitive!!!


CA bylaws should have this: For sale, home, three bedroom, 2/12 bath with parking for fifteen residents, at least that's how my new neighbors do it....Also, it is considered arson to burn a wooden bridge or barn in the county of Los Angeles, not that i've seen too many of either lately or this gem, horse drawn drays must not pass to the right of streetcars, such violations will result in fines and confiscation of drey ad wagon for a period of thirty days.

My wife tells the story of a girl crazy distant relative that in the gentile early 1900's would frequent Arcadia Station in LA to catch a fleeting glance of a covered ankle as ladies were assisted on and off trains.
Ah, yes the good old days.
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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 6:11 PM
G'day!

The B'day Bash has "officially" ended. The 'window' was Noon to 4 PM (Pacific) as chosen by the honoree.

Nice to see two more show up within the "prescirbed time!" Dave 'n Ted your efforts are appreciated by Moi![tup]

See y'all!

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 5:58 PM
Gadfrey Daniel, it is hard to believe that passengerfan Al is only 63 years old with his boundless energy and latin clerity of expression. Tom, may I have a bottle of Naragansett and raise a toast to the quality as well as the quantity of Al's posts to date. [bday] Al, your unfailing contributions of accuracy and pains taking detail are certainly a corner stone that makes "Our" Place such a resounding success, ***** and 5 diamonds thrown in for good measure.[^] This is surely cause for a double celebration with the event of our beloved Mascot Juneau's [bday] being shared concurrently. I am confident that I might convey the gratitude of all Members, guests and friends with a hearty "well done" for your past year's contributions, hear, hear. I know we are all looking forward to another year of continued unselfish and helpful data on this most unique of sites. Boris, you and Tex "did good." Tom here is a U.S. Grant to be split between Cashinator and Tilla (the Hun). It's so great to see evryone again "on the heels" of the First Anniversary.[tup] Hopefully, I won't be interrupted from another "howdy" later today. Happy rails to all.

P.S. Uh oh! I maxed the "old fogie" test. Now, if I could only remember my score.[V]

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Posted by West Coast S on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 5:27 PM
[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D] Happy "B" day, Al, it's West Coast S with a rare Tuesday posting, hope your day is all you expected.. How goes the book project? I've completed the research phase for a SP C60-4 Harriman coach, now to build an S scale master and produce some kits [:)] I'm still unsure how to replicate the rivet and seam detail located on the compound curved ends, otherwise I have a overall Plan!!! My C72 will be much easier, there is a commercially available generic ten window coach that should do fine as a starting point.

I must confess the C60-4 designation is a misnomer, they totaled 59'4 coupler to coupler and fourteen high from rail level and had open vestibules, eight were so constructed , the first steel passenger cars on the system, soon they were improved upon by including vestibule doors, thus was created the C60-5 the order was split between America Car and Foundry and Pullman, soon SP forces would choose to build in house on future orders, desginating a specific erection shop within the vast Sacramento Shops complex to form sides from plate steel, punch widows and doors, rivet and sheet rolling to assemble kits that were then mated to underframes from American Car And Foundry.

Howdy Tom, I think a round is in order seeing how it's Al's special day and all, Tom, the DODGERS got kicked again!!! Hope the Angels do ok this season, there the only hope we have! Our hockey is pathetic also, LA has no concept of professional sports!

Enjoy the day Al, hi-ho,hi-ho it's back to work I go...Until later

Dave

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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 5:03 PM
Hello Pete Glad to see you made it in - "Juneau" appreciates the best wishes![swg]

Sorry, Lars 'n BK for the turn of events, I know you guys tried to be here, as requested by me, for the "opening ceremony!" Some days are like that . . . . what's that they say about the best of plans[?]

I'll Post the "answers" to the Quiz over on "my other thread" and hope you guys get to check 'em out . . . [tup]

Leon the Night Man will take the bar at 9 PM (Central)!

Later! (maybe - depends entirely on participation!)

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by pwolfe on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 4:34 PM


[bday][bday][bday] to Al Hope you like the car it is on the Essex RR in CONN

It will have to be Bathams XXX or Holdens Special to celebrate AL's day[tup] And let me contribute to the Scuttle.

Hopefully this post will get through as the [censored] puter seized up solid a while ago and I have had to start again[sigh].

A great RR of Yesteryear TOM on the B&M with a discription of a trip on the line from North station as only CM3 can. I was able to watch a part of the evening commute from North station when we were in Boston in October. Great post from MIKE and RDC photos from BK. [tup][tup][tup].

Wonderful California info TOM[:D] some strange By-laws for sure.

Well hopefully LARS and BK and the regulars will be in again soon to Celebrate now AL has arrived again and I hope I shall be able to pop in later as they said we could be in for a bit of a rough nite weather wise [V].

Great photo of JUNEAU on his 3rd[bday][tup][tup][tup] say Hi to him from the bride and I.

As Yogi might say if this dosen't get there let me know[:)]PETE.
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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 4:16 PM
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These 20 questions are sure fire determinants of whether one qualifies to be a “Geezer!” We KNOW that AL will “ace” this test, but will you[?][swg] Give it a go . . .


1. Where did headlight dimmer switches used to be located?
a. On the floor shift knob
b. On the floor, left of the clutch
c. Next to the horn

2. The bottle top of a Royal Crown Cola bottle has holes in it. For what was it used?
a. Capture lightning bugs.
b. To sprinkle clothes before ironing
c. Large salt shaker

3. Why was having milk delivered a problem in northern winters?
a. Cows got cold and wouldn't produce
b. Ice on highways forced delivery by dog sled
c. Milkmen left deliveries outside doors and milk would freeze, expanding and pushing up the cardboard bottle top.

4. What was the popular chewing gum named for a game of chance?
a. Blackjack
b. Gin
c. Craps

5. What method did women adapt to look as if they were wearing stockings when none was available due to rationing during W.W.II?
a. Suntan
b. Leg painting
c. Wearing slacks

6. What postwar car turned automotive design on its ear when you couldn't tell whether it was coming or going?
a. Studebaker
b. Nash Metro
c. Tucker

7. Which was a popular candy when you were a kid?
a. Strips of dried peanut butter
b. Chocolate-licorice bars
c. Wax coke-shaped bottles with colored sugar water inside

8. How was Butch wax used?
a. To stiffen hair cut into a flattop so it stood up
b. To make floors shiny and prevent scuffing
c. On the wheels of roller skates to prevent rust

9. Before inline skates, how did you keep your roller skates attached to your shoes?
a. With clamps, tightened by a skate key
b. Woven straps that crossed the foot
c. Long pieces of string or twine

10. As a kid, what was considered the best way to reach a decision?
a. Consider all the facts
b. Ask Mom
c. Eeny-meeny-miney-mo

11. What was the worst thing you could catch from the opposite sex?
a. A cold
b. VD
c. Cooties

12. "I'll be down to get you in a ________, Honey?"
a. SUV
b. Taxi
c. Streetcar

13. What was the name of Caroline Kennedy's pet pony?
a. Old Blue
b. Paint
c. Macaroni

14. What was a Duck-and-Cover Drill?
a. Part of the game of hide and seek
b. What you did when your mom called you in to do chores
c. Hiding under your desk, covering your head with your arms in an A bomb drill

15. What was the name of the Indian Princess on the Howdy Doody show?
a. Princess Summerfallwinterspring
b. Princess Sacajewea
c. Princess Moonshado

16. What did all really savvy students do when mimeographed tests were handed out in school?
a. Immediately sniffed the purple ink, as this was believed to get you "high"
b. Made paper airplanes to see who could sail theirs out the window
c. Wrote another pupils name on the top, to avoid failure

17. Why did your mom shop in stores that gave Green Stamps with purchases?
a. To keep you out of mischief licking the backs, which tasted like bubble gum
b. They could be put in special books and redeemed for various household items
c. They were given to the kids to be used as stick on tattoos

18. "Praise the Lord, and pass the _________?"
a. Meatballs
b. Dames
c. Ammunition

19. What was the name of the group who made the song "The Gypsy" a hit?
a. The Ink Spots
b. The Supremes
c. The Esquires

20. Who left his heart in San Francisco?
a. Tony Bennett
b. Zavier Cugat
c. George Gershwin

[credit: questions from www.suddenlysenior.com]


Answers: on “my other Thread!”[swg]



Boris Ring the bell a few times – Let the good times rolll![swg]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 4:15 PM
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[bday]AL[bday]AL[bday]AL[bday]AL[bday]AL


TOP TEN One Liners for 63 Year Olds!

(10) I'm not old, I'm youthfully challenged.

(9) Charter member, "Old farts hall of fame."

(8) Once over the hill, you pick up speed.

(7) My own mortality will be the death of me yet.

(6) In dog years I'm dead.

(5) I'm in no shape to exercise.

(4) Don't interrupt me while I'm talking to myself.

(3) Darn right, I'm good in bed. I can sleep for days!

(2) I get everything I set my mind to. Now where'd I set my mind?

And the number ONE is: <drum roll> Naps & farts, that's all I'm really good for these days.



Boris Ring the bell a few times – Let the good times rolll![swg]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 4:08 PM
[bday] 2006 BIRTHDAY WATCH LIST [bday]
(rev. Apr 18th):


March 5th (Nick – 46)
March 13th (Doug – 50)
March 31st (Lars – 66)
April 18th (Al - 63) Up NOW! Bash: Noon to 4 PM (Pacific)
May 18th (Tom - 68)
May 27th (Dave - 47)
June 3rd (John) – 47)
June 24th (Dan) – 44)
July 30th (Russell – 35)
August 11th (Pete – 55
August 16th (Ted – 68)
September 8th (Rob - 35)
September 11th – Per – 61)
October 18th (BK – 66)
December 29th (CM3 – 60)


Not on the list [?] Send me an Email with your birth date (month-day-year). Corrections too!


Tom (Siberianmo) [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!




NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES!
Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 4:00 PM
[bday]Al!

Well, the "man" has made it! Awrrrrrrrrright![tup]

Hey Al Obviously YOU know how old YOU are - but do YOU know how many times the Bd'ay Watch List has been Posted since YOU joined it[?] Each time it requests CORRECTIONS!<groan> Guess this is my day for being a loser . . . [sigh]

Recommend you play catch up, while I go about getting everythng straightened out . . . .

Tom[4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by passengerfan on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 3:53 PM
Soory for my absence just had to try and catch up on some sleep that I have missed since the beginning of tax season. As i mentioned earlier i recived my last confirmation of an extension accepted at 23:45 hours last night then came home and went to bed.
Sorry for keeping everyone waiting guess I'll buy a round and try to become halfway decent company.
By the way Tom don't make me any older than I really am it's catching up with me fast enough really I'm only 63 i repeat 63 today. You made me look at my hatchery certificate and it says 4-18-1943.

I want to thank everyone for the B'day greetings they are really appreciated. Two more drinks and I will be passed out for sure.

Tune in later as I have a house full of guests this afternoon to look after as well.

TTFN AL
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Posted by LoveDomes on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 3:02 PM
Well, Gents! I've been logged on for over an hour and still no guest of honor.

Don't get it . . . .

I'll try to get back a bit later on . . . seems kind of pointless just sitting here.

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Posted by BudKarr on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 2:31 PM
Hello Captain Tom

Nice work with the picture of Juneau - I see it was taken just a bit over a year ago. Looks like a fine friend and great selection for Mascot![tup]

Impressive submission of yours to open up the festivities. My hope is that all will get to read it! Put me down as another to endorse the use of the "RELOAD" feature. It DOES work.

I am a bit confused by the turn of events - no show Al or so it seems. I will be logging off for a bit - cannot justify just sitting and waiting. I will attempt to return a bit later on.

Ring the bell, would you[?] I see that Boris is still away, trying to locate our elusive celebrant. Let us not hear of his tax return preparation on this day![swg]

Until later on!

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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 2:25 PM
[bday] JUNEAU [bday] JUNEAU [bday] JUNEAU [bday]

Juneau - male Siberian Husky - born: April 18th, 2003


Yes, the "official Mascot of "Our" Place is three years old today![tup][tup][tup]
(long time customers will recall the "annointment of Juneau" as our Mascot!)

And, he's beckoning for me to get off my duff to get him outside!![swg] (what's new[?])

Be right back . . . .

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by LoveDomes on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 2:19 PM
Hey Tom

Just read through that "epistle" of yours for Al - another "well done" for you, Sir! Seems like you have prepared for this day quite well - PLUS it's a "theme" day also. Really think we've got to come through for you and offer up some relief from time to time.
Hope the guys pick up on my post on page 307 . . .

By the way, Tom IS sooooooooooooo correct about using that REFRESH feature. Just because you happen to be logged on doesn't mean you are getting the most active stuff from the guys. Try it from time to time - but as we've been forewarned - do it B4 you put anything in the "send" box . . .

Hey Al are you coming to YOUR party[?]

Fill 'er up, barkeep - I'm thirsty! And my oh my those cold cuts and salads look scrumptous. Nice spread . . .

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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 2:11 PM
Looks like it is my turn (again!) . . . .

Al YOU set the time, so WHERE ARE YOU[?][?][?] It's one thing to be late for your own funeral, but this is YOUR Natal Day![swg]

You've gotta come out sometime and drop this "California layed back" thing - let's hear from YOU![tup][tup][tup]

Boris go fetch . . . . careful where you latch on . . . but go find Al[:O]

Drinks are on the house for the Bash! Of course, those offering to buy will have their money immediately 'deposited' into Tilla or The Cashinator![swg]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by BudKarr on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 2:05 PM
A toast to our msot prolific of the submitters - passengerfan Al! Hip, Hip, Hooray! Hip, Hip, Hooray - For he IS a jolly good fellow![tup][bow][yeah][wow] [bday]

This is akin to one of those greeting cards where the narrative says, "I was GOING to buy you . . . ." and so forth. Well, I was GOING to post something along the lines of streamliner passenger cars but found that you have covered every inch of roadbed![swg]

You have been with the bar from the onset and have treated one and all to so many informative and well compiled pieces that it is hard to chronicle them all. So, I will not![swg]

Cheers, mate![bday]

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Posted by LoveDomes on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 2:01 PM
[bday] TO AL [bday] TO AL [bday] HAPPY 63rd [bday] TO AL [bday] HAPPY TO AL

Set 'em up barkeep! Let's give 'em what they desire and a toast to "The Man of the Hour!" Cheers to you, passengerfan Al!!

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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 1:30 PM



[bday]HAPPY BIRTHDAY to AL (63)![bday]


UNDER THE AUTHORITY VESTED IN ME AS PROPRIETOR of this CYBER BAR ‘n GRILL, I HEREBY DELCARE THIS DAY, passengerfan AL Day! [C=:-)] LET THE GOOD TIMES ROLL as we celebrate the Birthday of our FRIEND, passengerfan AL (63)! [C=:-)]


AND NOW ………SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT for our FRIEND AL





California Jokes
credit: Aha! Jokes, http://www.AhaJokes.com/


California: By 30, Our Women Will Have More Plastic Than Your Honda

Dumb California Laws

• Sunshine is guaranteed to the masses.
• Animals are banned from mating publicly within 1,500 feet of a tavern, school, or place of worship.
• Bathhouses are against the law.
• It is a misdemeanor to shoot at any kind of game from a moving vehicle, unless the target is a whale.
• Women may not drive in a house coat.
• No vehicle without a driver may exceed 60 miles per hour.
• Many animals are illegal to own as pets, including snails, sloths, and elephants.
• In an animal shelter, lizards and snakes are treated under the same guidelines as cats and dogs.

Arcadia
• Peacocks have the right of way to cross any street, including driveways.

Alhambra
• You cannot leave your car on the street overnight without the proper permit.

Baldwin Park
• Nobody is allowed to ride a bicycle in a swimming pool.

Belvedere
• City Council order reads: "No dog shall be in a public place without its master on a leash."

Blythe
• You are not permitted to wear cowboy boots unless you already own at least two cows.

Burlingame
• It is illegal to spit, except on baseball diamonds.

Carmel
• Ice cream may not be eaten while standing on the sidewalk. (Repealed when Clint Eastwood was mayor)
• Women may not wear high heels while in the city limits.

Chico
• Detonating a nuclear device within the city limits results in a $500 fine.

Downey
• It is illegal to wash your car in the street. (Passed 1995).

Hollywood
• It is illegal to drive more than two thousand sheep down Hollywood Boulevard at one time.

Lafayette
• You are forbidden to spit on the ground within 5 feet of another person.

Lodi
• It is illegal to own or sell "Silly String".

Lompoc
• It is illegal to posses, own or raise roosters. This is considered disturbing the peace.

Long Beach
• Cars are the only item allowed in a garage.
• It is illegal to curse on a mini-golf course.

Los Angeles
• It is illegal for a man to beat his wife with a strap wider than 2 inches without her consent.
• You cannot bathe two babies in the same tub at the same time.
• You may not hunt moths under a street light.
• It is illegal to cry on the witness stand.
• Toads may not be licked.
• It is a crime for dogs to mate within 500 yards of a church. Breaking this law is punishable by a fine of $500 and/or six months in prison.
• Zoot suits are prohibited.

Ontario
• Roosters may not crow in the city limits.

Pacific Grove
• Molesting butterflies can result in a $500 fine.

Palm Springs
• It is illegal to walk a camel down Palm Canyon Drive between the hours of four and six PM.

Pasadena
• It is illegal for a secretary to be alone in a room with her boss.

Prunedale
• Two bathtubs may not be installed in the same house.

Redlands
• Motor vehicles may not drive on city streets unless a man with a lantern is wallking ahead of it.

Riverside
• One may not carry a lunch down the street between 11 and 1 o'clock.

San Diego
• It is illegal to shoot jackrabbits from the back of a streetcar.
• The owners of houses with Christmas lights on them past February second may be fined up to $250.

San Francisco
• Prohibits elephants from strolling down Market Street unless they are on a leash.
• It is illegal to wipe one's car with used underwear.
• Persons classified as "ugly" may not walk down any street.
• It is illegal to pile horse manure more than six feet high on a street corner.

San Jose
• It is illegal to have more than two cats or dogs. -Ord. 7.08.595

Santa Monica
• You may not play percussion instruments on the beach.

Temecula
• Ducks have the right of way to cross Rancho California St. at all times.


A short story...

Police in Oakland, California spent two hours attempting to subdue a gunman who had barricaded himself inside his home. After firing ten teargas canisters, officers discovered that the man was standing beside them, shouting out to give himself up.

Police in Los Angeles had good luck with a robbery suspect who just couldn't control himself during a line-up. When detectives asked each man in the line-up to repeat the words, "Give me all your money or I'll shoot", the man shouted, "That's not what I said!"

In Modesto, CA, Steven Richard King was arrested for trying to hold up a bank of America branch without a weapon. King used a thumb and a finger to simulate a gun but unfortunately he failed to keep his hand in his pocket.


Greater Los Angeles Area Driver's License Application

Name: _______________ Stage name: ________________

Agent: ______________ Attorney: __________________

Sex: ___male ___female ___formerly male
___formerly female ___both

If female, indicate *** implant size: ____

Will the size of your implants hinder your ability to safely
operate a motor vehicle in any way? Yes___ No ___


Please list brand of cell phone: __________________
(If you don't own a cell phone, please explain.)


Please check hair color:
Females: [ ] Blonde [ ] Platinum Blonde
Teenagers: [ ] Purple [ ] Blue [ ] Skinhead


Please indicate activities you perform while driving:
Check all that apply)
[ ] Eating
[ ] Applying make-up
[ ] Talking on the phone
[ ] Slapping kids in the back seat
[ ] Applying cellulite treatment to thighs
[ ] Tanning
[X] Snorting cocaine (already checked for ease of application)
[ ] Watching TV
[ ] Reading Variety magazine
[ ] Surfing the net via laptop


Please indicate how many times
a) You expect to shoot at other drivers: _____
b) How many times you expect to be shot at while driving: _____


Please indicate your number of therapy sessions per week: ____


Are you presently taking any of the following medications?
a) Prozac
b) Zovirax
c) Lithium
d) Zanax
e) Valium
If none, please explain: _______________________________


What is the length of your daily commute?
a) 1 hour
b) 2 hours
c) 3 hours
d) 4 hours or more


TEST (Please indicate the correct answer):

If you are the victim of a car jacking, you should immediately:
a) Call the police to report the crime
b) Call Channel 4 News to report the crime, then watch your
car on TV in a high-speed chase
c) Call your attorney and discuss a lawsuit against the cellular
phone company for your 911 call not going through
d) Call your therapist
e) None of the above (South Central residents only)


In the event of an earthquake, you should:
a) Stop your car
b) Keep driving and hope for the best
c) Immediately use your cell phone to call all loved ones
d) Pull out your video camera and obtain footage for Channel 4

In the event of rain, you should:
a) Never drive over 5 MPH
b) Drive twice as fast as usual
c) You're not sure what "rain" is

When stopped by police, you should:
a) Pull over and have your driver's license and insurance form ready
b) Try to outrun them by driving the wrong way on the 405
c) Have your video camera ready and provoke them to attack,
ensuring yourself of a hefty lawsuit

Please turn your test in to the lady behind the bulletproof
virtual window on your left.


Californians

A Texan, a Californian, and a Nevadan were out riding their horses.

The Texan pulled out an expensive bottle of whiskey, took a long draught, then another, and then suddenly threw it into the air, pulled out his gun and shot the bottle in midair.

The Californian looked at the Texan and said, "What are you doing? That was a perfectly good bottle of whiskey!! The Texan replied, "In Texas, there's plenty of whiskey and bottles are cheap.

A while later, not wanted to be outdone, the Californian pulled out a bottle of champagne, took a few sips, threw the half full champagne bottle into the air, pulled out his gun, and shot it in midair.

The Nevadan couldn't believe this and said "What the heck did you that for? That was an expensive bottle of champagne!! The Californian replied, "In California there is plenty of champagne and bottles are cheap."

A while later, the Nevadan pulled out a bottle of Sierra Nevada Pale Ale. He opened it, took a sip, took another sip, then chugged the rest. He then put the bottle back in his saddlebag, pulled out his gun, turned, and shot the Californian.

The shocked Texan said "Why in the hell did you do that?"

The Nevadan replied, "Well, in Nevada we have plenty of Californians and bottles are worth a nickel."


credit: Aha! Jokes, http://www.AhaJokes.com/



Boris! Ring the bell a few times – it’s party time![swg]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[bday]HAPPY BIRTHDAY to AL![bday]

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Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 1:24 PM
G'day!

I will be kicking off the Birthday Bash for passengerfan Al shortly after this Post . . .

Just wanted one and all to remember to use the RELOAD/REPOST/REFRESH feature after logging onto this Thread. It is a good idea to repeat the process every so often in order to get the MOST CURRENT Posts!

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 1:15 PM
G'day!

Not to worry, BK early or late - just as long as "one" drops off the "intentions" is all that counts! And yes - the B'day Bash begins at Noon (Pacific) and has been advertised as such every day - several times I think - for a week. Whatever it is that CM3 is drinking, let's have a double![swg]



Here's an ENCORE! by request from Lars

[bow][tup][bow][tup][bow][tup][bow][tup][bow][tup][bow][tup][bow][tup][bow][tup][bow][tup][bow][tup]


The Top 10 Active Contributors to ”Our” Place through Page 300:
(figures in brackets denote number at Page 250; “plus number” represents number of Posts since Page 250.)

1st trolleyboy Rob 593 was [463] +130

2nd Theodorebear Ted 416 was [404] +12 (includes previous cyber names used at ”Our” Place)

3rd passengerfan Al 393 was [347] +46

4th nickinwestwales Nick 339 was [301] +38

5th barndad Doug 265 was [152] +113

6th pwolfe Pete 192 was [138] +54 – resides in

7th West Coast S Dave 171 was [147] +24

8th Trainnut484 Russell 144 was [139] +5

9th coalminer3 CM3 135 was [103] +32 173 [135] +38

10th LoveDomes: 117 was [48] +69


Proprietor: 2413 was [2032] +381


Note: These numbers have no connection to the numbers appearing with your cyber name.
Those figures represent total Posts on all of the Forums since membership date.


Thanx to all for making this the place to be for Classic Trains information, conversation and good times! [tup][tup][tup]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]


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Posted by BudKarr on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 12:57 PM
Hello Captain Tom!

Have I misread something[?] Thought the B'day Bash! began at NOON (Pacific) - which is 1 PM for me - 2 PM for you, etc. I think Sir Coalminer just wants to party![swg]

No matter, "test runs" make sense in all walks of life, including banter at the bar!

bday Al [bday]

I will return . . . .

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Posted by coalminer3 on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 12:37 PM
Good Afternoon Barkeep and All Present: coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.

Lots of B&M material flowing in. I enjoyed the RDC shots taken at North Station. Only one missing was a 6900 series (RDC9) the B&M had them. Our 'steamed proprietor's post on B&M history gives an idea of how tangled a group of roads it was that went into the B&M. The New Haven of course, was quite similar. Also appreciated the comments on the CV/B&M passenger service. Don't get me started - or I'll be sent to the Rat Room!

I see where (in our time zone, I think,) it's time to get the B'day party begun.

Again, we have found transcripts of an interview with the guest of honor. It was apparently a wide-ranging session, but the archivist could only resurrect a few quotes from the sheets that Awk tore up and put in the bottom of his cage.

Anyway, here goes;

Al (the early years) "I got my start in show business. I drove chariot races in a flea circus." He encountered some adversity early on, and said , "I was like an old tin can in an alley. Anyone who walked by couldn't resist kicking it." But he soon learned to cope with the rough times. His philosophy was simple. "When trouble comes, wise men take to their work; I take to the woods." The rest of the page was torn/shredded/chewed beyond all hope of salvage.

We did find a larger piece of paper which contained some revealing observations about human relations. When asked about conduct, ever self-effacing(?) Al said, "Good breeding consist in concealing how much we think of ourselves and how little we think of the other person." He further elaborated by remarking, "There are always two sides to every argument - mine and the wrong side."

The next layer disclosed some insight into his interest in passenger trains, cars, and consists. Al has a well-deserved reputation for being the Pavarotti of Pullmans, the Maven of mail cars, the Ruler of RPOs, the Caesar of coaches, the Diva of Diners, the Doge of Domes, and the Oligarch of observations. All of this keeps him very busy. when asked how busy he was, Al replied, "I'm busier than a flute player's upper lips during the William Tell overture." He further added, "There's never been one like me before, and there will never be one like me again."

As Edith Ann said, "And that's the truth!"

Happy birthday

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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 11:19 AM
G'day!

Fine morning of Posts at the "Feast or Famine Bar 'n Grill"!! Glad to see so many chipping in to help out with our B&M "theme" as well as other topics![tup][tup][tup]

Rather than repeat what has already been said by others, let me simply ACKNOWLEDGE the Posts from: pwolfe Pete - wanswheel MIke 'n barndad Doug - and to coalminer3 CM3 - BudKarr BK - LoveDomes Lars 'n wanswheel Mike (this morning). Cheers to all who bought a round and helped with "feeding"our Coal Scuttle!![swg]

That's a particularly nice gesture, BK that you've made and I'm appreciative for not only your thoughtfulness, but also in trying to keep this Thread moving forward![tup] We'll see . . . .

BK Thanx very much for those RDC shots![wow] I may very well have traveled aboard those cars while living in the Boston area - but wouldn't have a way to find out, since I never kept track of the car numbers back then. We resided within walking distance of the B&M station and could see the crossing gates from our front porch. Great sights and sounds from back in the mid-late 60s![yeah]

Sounds to me as if you are going to be a busy, busy, busy newly wed![swg] I can "relate" to the terminology nuances - "honeymoon" for people "older than dirt" sounds, so - so - "cutesy!"<grin> Term it what you will - it is the true beginning of a chapter in your respective lives that I hope will be a long and healthy one![tup][tup][tup]

Can't help you with the question, Lars, haven't the foggiest what's happened to trolleyboy Rob! My guess is he's up to his Count Robulla ears in work - OR - found a way to get a few days off with his bride. Hope it's the latter![tup]

Mike Interesting, personalized "bit" on the B&M. We all "celebrate" the road in different ways, eh[?]

Lars I'll Post that Top 10 Contributors List one more time as requested . . . you are correct about Saturdays - new material just seems to go to waste then.[tup]

CM3 Your B&M offering is just as good the 2nd time around as the 1st![tup]

Al I enjoyed your CP Post and saw you over on "my other thread" this AM! Thanx![tup] We're all waiting for the "appointed time" to arrive . . . then strap yourself in, Mate - it's YOUR B'day Bash!


Hope y'all have taken the time to read through the RR from Yesteryear Post . . . .


Later!

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by wanswheel on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 9:40 AM
Hi Tom, a Crown Royal for the birthday boy [bday] Alan
I'm way overdue to thank you for posting:

PASSSENGERFAN AL'S STREAMLINER CORNER # 61 SUPER CHIEF

(Because it informed me as to:

PINE BEACH 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

which is now the crew dormitory car 2501 Beatrice MacDonald, named for my mother God rest her.)

CM3, there's a gorgeous caboose in that train shed at Bedford: http://www.bedforddepot.org/BBLexington.JPG (neat old cars too), thanks for the links, and for the essay.
What I know about the B&M is that it petitioned to be relieved of passenger service just a little too soon. Without a connection from White River Junction to Springfield, the Montrealer-Washingtonian was sunk. This meant that my grandparents up in St. Albans were cut off from us. No longer could they use their free lifetime railroad passes to visit, nor could my father ride up on the train to check up on them in their old age.
A situation that couldn't last long, and didn't. And he, my grandfather, drove that *** train that the B&M effectively killed. Although the CV did still have tracks to New London, so in theory the Montrealer could have been spared by taking the long way to New York (as Amtrak does now with the Vermonter).

http://bm-railfan.smugmug.com/photos/9457285-L.jpg A Bell for Barndad
http://www.xmission.com/~ghb4884/htm/east/full/B&M%20R1d.jpg A painting of a Bell
http://memory.loc.gov/pnp/det/4a00000/4a07000/4a07000/4a07098r.jpg North Station 1890s
http://bostonandmainerr.com/parker/Inside%20North%20Station.jpg North Station 1947
http://www.nic.funet.fi/index/railways/United_States/Boston-Maine/B&M-007.jpg Triple Lift Bridge
http://www.bostonandmainerr.com/parker/B%26M%203701%20at%20Boston.jpg Steam
http://www.bostonandmainerr.com/parker/B%26M%203712%20at%20Boston.jpg Smoke http://www.bostonandmainerr.com/parker/B%26M%201408%20at%20Salem.jpg Salem
http://bostonandmainerr.com/official/B%26M%201%20at%20Tyngsboro.jpg Deisel
http://railroad.union.rpi.edu/images/troy/Troy-6th-by-Union-Ballard.jpg Local
http://www.flyingyankee.com/21.html Flying Yankee
Mike

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