"OUR" PLACE - SEE NEW THREAD!

[Anonymous]

Hello everyone. I'll take a tequila, neat, please. Dave, I agree wholeheartledly with Tom about the last post. That was moving and captured the feeling that must have permeated the nation when steam was in its death throes.
Too bad the historical diesel movement wasn't around in 1963. We would have one more PA. Doyle McCormack notwithstanding, 1 PA with a few hulks is not enough of this graceful diesel. I happen to think Alco's earlier passenger diesel, the DL109, was attractive. Saw a b&w photo yesterday of a new ATSF unit and I realized then how under appreciated this model is by students of industrial design.
Ted, how about some memories of Frisco passenger trains. You mentioned the Tulsan and the Oil City Flyer-I believe these were SLSF trains.

[West Coast S]

Tom and the gang.. Glad you enjoyed it. I don't know if it's worthy copyright material, just something I composed in the spirit of the moment.

Earlydiesel, there was a missed oppertunity to perserve a DL109, New Haven retained one in storage until the Penn Central merger, the last DL109 in existence anywhere. It's continued survivial was a well known fact, that PC would have no use for it was also well known. No attempts were made to ensure it avoided the scrap heap. Oppertunity once lost is oppertunity lost forever.


Boris, a round for the house, and no, Cindy is not part of tonight's menu!

Dave [tup]

[siberianmo]

Sir Dave

That originality of yours could keep you in spending money - if only to support your love of trains (real & model). Again, really enjoyed it - summed up my thoughts on the subject, for sure.

Boris The bell, please ........ Good choice regarding Cindy, I do know she's rather sweet on Nick [C=:-)] which is why she volunteers for kitchen duty.

Catch ya later! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

Hello earlydiesels Dan

Didn't see you behind Dave's Post - my apologies!

Well, there's two of us who really appreciated the moving piece Posted by Dave. Sez it all, for sure. [tup][tup][tup]

Diesels have always been my favorite and while i'm hardly an on the subject, they simply captivate my attention. Been that way since I was a kid. The only exception to the rule is the GG-1 of PRR fame - preferred the tuscan with 5 stripes. [yeah]

Now that surely doesn't mean that the 4-8-4's and their cousins weren't something to gawk at - for they surely were. But with advent of diesels came all of those great looking passenger consists, with the Budd's leading the way. [yeah] Diesel on! [swg]

One Jose comin' up .........

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[trolleyboy]

Good evening fellers. Tom I think a semi alchoholic milkshake( kaluha and icecream blended ) is in order this evening, Oh and the deluxe meat lovers pizza too, though not the one Boris has been busy concocting[:0][xx(]Racoon and chipmunk are not proper pizza toppings[:p]. Perhaps the jonts to the forest are not necessarily a good thing for our missing link [alien]. Any how I concur with you Tom, Dave wonderfull bit of prose that. In keeping with the nautical +train theme. The two cross lake steamers run by the NS&T were the SS Northumberland ( which burned to the waterline in 1949 worst lake disaster on the canadian side in numbers of deaths ) and the SS Dalhousie City. Also in Ontario the L&PS met the cross lake ferry SS Asthtabula carrying people and railcars from Cleveland and conneaught to Port Stanley. Out on the right coast CN sent passengers and railcars to the Narrowguage Newfoundland lines as well. Ted I'm glad you take the trolley time in Tampa sounds like a neat run by your accounts and by their website[tup][;)] Touist or not as this type of " new classic " takes hold and becomes viable more should follow suit. I suppose it's not the how and where that's important it's that we try. Eventually the powers at be will see that they have no choice so Tom's [banghead] run in's with transit and gov authorities will eventually take root, and perhaps before we are all sod bound.Well gentlfolks I'd love to stay and caht longer but alas I have saturday duty as dave refers to it as. Bye for now. Rob[:)]

[Anonymous]

Good Morning Tom and friends! I'll have some tea and a sticky Mentor pastry please.
Reading over the posts of the last week has been truely impressive !!

Gunns, I really enjoyed your trip link. It's going to take a while to fully explore it. Activity in the steam shop has been curtailed while Thomas is in town, so nothing new to report there.

Have a great day everyone ..... I'm off to do some biking!

[siberianmo]

Good Morning!

barndad - long time, no see. Glad you've enojyed the Posts ....

trolleyboy Rob So that's why the pizza had a different taste! [swg]

Catch ya later - I'm off to a medical test ........

Cindy has the bar! [}:)][:-,] Be nice, fellas ........

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

SATURDAY’s NEWS & SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS

Good Morning! The weekend is upon us and I hope that all of you have at least one day to do the things you want to do – even if it’s absolutely nothing at all! [yeah]

As always, there’s hot coffee, light breakfasts and a pastry case full of good stuff from The Mentor Village Bakery. Dig in ……. [tup]

News of the Day:

(1) Have you ever wondered what it must have been like for those working the jobs and careers suddenly lost when steam gave way to diesel – or when the passenger roads died [?] Take a look at this original Post from West Coast S Dave – something to appreciate:

QUOTE: I agree with the extinction of the attending aspects associated with diesel and the passenger train. I think the following puts it in perspective.

Dieselization permitted longer faster, heavier trains, run more frequently, thus requiring new means to keep apart. Farewell to the train order station, written orders the telegraph and the manual block control. farewell to the jobs they created and the communities they supported.


Farewell to the coal docks, water towers and roundhouses and turntables and all else associated with steam railroading , your day is done, replaced by the diesel that only requires a few tracks for servicing.

Farewell to the thousands of shop workers, hostlers and millions more behind the scene who gave their all to keep the railroads running in time of peace and war.

Farewell to shops with legendary names such as Altoona, Roanoke, Cheyenne and a thousand more, farewell to the communities that once depended on you.

Farewell to the American passenger train , even the vaunted diesel could not save you from the technology of improved air and highway alternatives and changes in public preferences.

Farewell to the Pullman Porter, your time is done, you have served with honor for over a hundred years by catering to millions of travelers, farewell to the Pullman Company, your daring, innovative approach to rail travel helped bind a restless nation. Now, your time has come as well. You too have served with honor in time of war and peace.

Farewell to way of life, never to return and yet not so distant as to be completely forgotten.

(2) Want to take a ride aboard perhaps one of only a few remaining secrets in U.S. passenger railroading [?] Take a look at this URL provided by Gunns Kevin – click on through it all - it’s well worth it:
http://www.drgw.net/trips/index.html?tr=SWS2

(3) We’ve had an interesting week – many of our familiar faces as of late haven’t been ‘round or if they have, been rather quiet. However, for those who have – we’ve enjoyed some of the absolute best exchanges in the 4 plus months of ”Our” Place. Very illustrative of what I’ve been saying – it’s not the quantity of Posts, it’s the quality! [tup][tup][tup]

SUMMARY

Name - Date/Time - (Page#) – Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 26 Aug 2005, 08:19:23 (87) Friday’s News & Summary

(2) Gunns Kevin Posted: 26 Aug 2005, 08:59:14 (87)

(3) siberianmo Tom Posted: 26 Aug 2005, 10:07:23 (87) reply to Gunns

(4) Gunns Kevin Posted: 26 Aug 2005, 12:23:22 (87)

(5) West Coast S Dave Posted: 26 Aug 2005, 13:15:01 (87)

(6) siberianmo Tom Posted: 26 Aug 2005, 13:45:37 (87) reply to Gunns

(7) siberianmo Tom Posted: 26 Aug 2005, 13:53:33 (87) reply to West Coast S

(8) West Coast S Dave Posted: 26 Aug 2005, 15:20:44 (87)

(9) siberianmo Tom Posted: 26 Aug 2005, 15:52:25 (87) reply to West Coast S

(10) passengerfan Al Posted: 26 Aug 2005, 17:20:52 (87)

(11) West Coast S Dave Posted: 26 Aug 2005, 17:33:03 (87)

(12) siberianmo Tom Posted: 26 Aug 2005, 17:43:41 (87) reply to passengerfan

(13) siberianmo Tom Posted: 26 Aug 2005, 17:48:52 (87) reply to West Coast S

(14) earlydiesels Dan Posted: 26 Aug 2005, 19:12:40 (87)

(15) West Coast S Dave Posted: 26 Aug 2005, 19:13:21 (88)

(16) siberianmo Tom Posted: 26 Aug 2005, 19:24:04 (88) reply to West Coast S

(17)siberianmo Tom Posted: 26 Aug 2005, 19:30:11l (88) reply to earlydiesels

(18) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 27 Aug 2005, 00:29:20 (88)

(19) barndad Doug Posted: 27 Aug 2005, 06:45:52 (88)

(20) siberianmo Tom Posted: 27 Aug 2005, 07:01:11 (88) reply to barndad & trolleyboy

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That’s it! [tup][;)]
Tom (Siberianmo) [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[Anonymous]

OUTSTANDING! "Our" Place just gets better and better. Dave, the "bitter sweet" legacy of the post steam and "golden age" passenger trains captures the essence of all the things we mourn today. What a fitting eulogy to an era we can only wish our survivors could experience today. Tom, after I catch a round for those present, let's think about some appropriate special award recognizing contributions that "rings everyone's bell," e.g. "The Silver Throtle Award" to be passed along as new Replys come our way? Just a thought.[:D]

Earlydiesels, yes the StLSF trains and Santa Fe trains (Tulsa to K.C.) departed at the same time. You could make your choice simply be choosing which side of the platform you wished to board. The Santa Fe ran 2 EMD FP7's (A-B) heading 4 or 5 Budd Stainless, if memory serves. StLSF maintained steam until (mid 1950's?) when EMD E- 7's or 8's did the chores. The Texas Cheif (ATSF) comes to mind as one which served Tulsa among others. StLSF ran east on the Missouri side, ATSF on the Kansas side as I recall. Both trains arrived (K.C.) within 10 to 15 minutes of eachother. The Santa Fe normally a bit faster. I need to look into these names for "old times sake." The only DL 109 that I saw in operation was along old U.S. RT. 66 (south of Chicago) on the Gulf Mobile and Ohio road. It was in such a pitiable state of maintenance as to appear comical, in a sad way (circa '58' or '59').

Gunns, that URL is a "keeper," thanks. Rob, enjoyed the mail. I'm afraid my retruns are delayed for reasons unknown to me. The Notice simply states "delayed, resending message is not necessary." Well Katrina has, so far, chosen a mid-Gulf track. Good for us, not so good for Biloxi. Maybe she will bring some needed rain for parts of the Ohio Valley? Okay, gotta do some domestics stuff, so long for now.

[siberianmo]

Mornin' Ted

It appears that you've been spared the wrath of Katrina, which is a blessing for you and your neighbors. This old world is changing insofar as what we've become accustomed to with the weather patterns - and methinks we haven't seen the end of it. Humankind has only inhabited this planet for a mere speck in the time it's been rotating 'round the sun. Who knows what's in store that may have occurred somewhere else in time [?] I've read sicientific journal reports of a projected start of an Ice Age in Europe before the end of this century. Hope it starts in those places inhabited by our detractors first! [}:)][:-,]

Another great idea eminating from old Ted [swg] - something else for older Tom to keep track of! [censored][banghead] Nevertheless ......

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Let it be known from this day forth that: The First Silver Throttle Award for Excellence in Classic Trains Postings at "Our" Place goes to -----

<drumroll, please!> ------

West Coast S Dave [yeah][wow][tup][tup][tup]

To Dave: Your Post of 26 Aug 2005, 17:33:03 was an outstanding capstone to many informative and well thought out contributions to what "Our" Place strives to maintain. Congratulations from all of your friends at the bar! [yeah][wow]swg][tup][tup][tup]
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Anymore brilliant ideas, Ted[?] [;)]

Thanx for the round, by the by! Boris remove the panty hose from the clapper and ring the bell! I just don't wanna know ...........

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[Trainnut484]

Good day Tom et all. I'll have a cup of coffee please. Just picked up my copy of MR's 1950s special edition at the LHS. A great wealth of informaton indeed [^]. Ted, glad you were spared from hurricance Katrina. Seeing the section of that highway bridge ripped away was eye popping and jaw dropping. One would've thought a tornado did that damage. Kevin, I'll try again to go to your d&rg URL you posted earlier. Before, it was a lttle slow downloading and I was in a bit of a hurry. Dan, The Tulsan and Oil Flyer were Santa Fe trains. Santa Fe's lone DL109/110 was regulated to flat land running since it was too high geared for the western grades. I would've liked to have seen Frisco's passenger trains that ran between KC and Springfield.

See y'all later,

Russell

[Anonymous]

I modelling a CN steam P-5-h in HO and searching for the water and coal store of the tender.Thank you!

[Anonymous]

Hi Russell, just dropped in to say I appreciate the affirmation of the ATSF train names on the Tulsa leg. The Frisco trains in and out of Tulsa were "good lookers" from the standard and smooth side (streamliners) era. Frisco steam was, however, a "standout" in my opinion, especially the sheet metal shrouded light Pacific 4-6-2 that looked like speed incarnate just sitting still. The Katy (M-K-T) also served Tulsa but withdrew passenger service early on. I believe their best train was the "Fire Fly" but could be mistaken. I don't know much about the "Katy" but for some reason, people in the S.W. seem to favor that Road. Any idea why?

Tom, didn't mean to put you out. BTW, has any of the talk about the Gas Electrics hit a "raw nerve" yet? The Doodlebugs" were not really "generic" as many roads had different configurations mush as the later R.D.C.'s. Unlike the later, Doddlebugs ran "mixed" consists and took on a life of their own in some cases. No one could accuse them of being "rail buses!"

Oh Gad, another interruption. I must bid everyone a farewell for the moment. Please Tom hit the Panty Hose and a libation for all, thanks. Cheerio for now.

[siberianmo]

Chrisitian

I recognize that this is your first Post and there is nothing in your profile to help us know you - BUT - here's some advice:

These Forums have many discussion groups (threads) and they are arranged by the titles of the magazines published by Kalmbach. My suggestion to you is to inquire in a Forum designed for your question - Model Railroading.

Also, while we all welcome newcomers and encourage participation, it is considered a bit on the rude side to simply jump in on a discussion (thread) to Post something that has absolutely nothing to do with what's going on ..... The way to find out is easy - just go to the first page - check out what the subject is - then decide if you are in the right place.

See ya!

[siberianmo]

G'day Guys!

Russell I may have to take another look at that MRR eidtion you mentioned - didn't do much for me when I flipped thru the pages at my LHS. Pehaps I was in too much of a hurry .......

Ted You haven't put me out - that's kinda like saying, The check's in the mail! .... It was a good suggestion - but as I've learned over time, when I'm the one who is the do-er, well .......... [swg] Now I've gotta figure out some parameters for follow-up Silver Throttle Awards.

These pages are chock full of some very interesting and well thought out Posts. Praise is long and hard to come by, not only here, but on most of the Forums I've been active with. Just doesn't happen that often. Can mean - not read - or who gives a Rat's Patoot, or .......... take your pick. I know that in my experiences, I've Posted some information that got absolutely zero, zilch, zip in response and it was surprising indeed. Just the way some guys are ...... I'd rather think it was lack of reading than anything else.

Nope, regarding having my switch flicked over those Doodlebugs/Gas Electrics. There's quite a history on the march toward the development of the Rail Diesel Car (RDC) and they all occupy a place in time. Now, if I came across something to slam the RDC, well .......... [tdn]

Catch y'all later - Cindy still has the bar .........

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[West Coast S]

Afternoon Tom and the gang..

Speaking of Doodlebugs, time for a history lesson on the most unremarked of them all:

The most unique in my humble opinion, were manfactured by the Mckeen Motorcar Company of Omaha Nebraska, predates the EMC entry by a decade. Mr. Mckeen was a pioneering advocate of internal combustion engines and a prolific inventor with visions of a economical to operate railcar. In 1909 he appproached Union Pacific offering the first model to them if they could provide him with shop space.

UP was intrigued and agreed to lease a portion of the Omaha backshop. Construction progressed rapidly, despite numerous fits with the unfamiliar and the orginal gasoline engine, drive line that required a redesign, a protoype, wooden bodied 40 footer was ready by years end. All involved were shocked by the unusual appearance, prow like a ship, bob tail end and porthole windows, ugly was how most would describe it. Once in trials UP found that it was capable of replacing steam in branchline passenger service to a point. Lack of a reliable starting system and a poorly designed clutch caused engineers to curse themselfs blue.

UP weighed in on the initial results with the opinion that, overall it was a sound design but all production models should offer increased passenger RPO/baggage capacity as well. Encourage by the sucessful test, It was back to the drawing boards, Ranson Olds assisted with a improved clutch design, Delco/Remy was contracted for a spark plug starting system. A new 50 foot steel body with RPO/baggage was manfactured, with the same unique knife edge front and porthole windows . These were more to UPs liking and proved reliable and economical to operate. As a plus to the ugainly nose design,UP found the knife edge fronts useful in light snow removal.

Once in service and gaining a reputation, SP came calling and offered to host trials on a revised 50 foot model. SP was very pleased with the operating cost and overall reliability and ordered fourteen for itself to be divided among its various holdings.

UP, meanwhile re-motored all earlier cars with a new 325HP V12 gasoline engine with improved carburators and fuel delivery system that eliminated spitting and potential explosions, for the first time a reverse mechanism that bypassed the clutch was offered.

Due to being traction impared, only the front axles being powered, McKeen designed various configurations of lightweight 20-30 foot trailers as a option , these proved popular as well.

Due to unfortunate events, Mckeen would not survive to reap the benefits of it's pioneering efforts. A Federal probe into the companies business practices led UP to withdrawl it's support and evict Mckeen from the Omaha Shops, EMC, Pullman and Winton became involved in the internal combustion rail car business and by 1925, after having manfactured 42 Motor cars and a failed attempt at building industrial locomotives, the Mckeen Motor Car Company filed for bankruptcy.

The Mckeen Motor Cars had a service life far beyond that of it's ill fated manfacturer. The last SP Mckeen was retired in 1939, SP was unique in continually upgrading the power plant to take advantage of the latest technology. SP was the first to stray from Mckeen's design by rebuilding most of the fleet to 73 feet.

UP performed the most radical changes over the years, flat fronts, repowering by EMC and application of streamliner paint and a lone example rebuilt to 86 feet in length were but a few of the modifications undertaken before retirement in 1943. Final assignments were on Nebraska branchlines, where it all began, so many years before, rather apt in retrospect.

The last Mckeen in operation was the lone unit, purchased new, by the Virginia & Truckee, retired in 1951. After retirement, it was shorn of all mechanicals to become a roadside diner. Recently, this only surviving example, once again escaped the torch and has been perserved with a eye towards furture restoration, providing the unique mechanicals can be reproduced.

Dave [tup]

[Anonymous]

Dave, Balderdash!

[passengerfan]

Good Evening Tom, Guess I'll have a CR and a round for the house.
DAVE. Probably the best use of Mckeen cars was the three converted into a semi streamlined train by the CGW at their Oelwein, Iowa shops. They removed the power plants from three Mckeen Cars and converted two to trailers. The lead unit was rebuilt with a Flat front end and an EMC power plant replaced the Mckeen power. The windows were sqaured off with rounded tops and the trains was named the BLUE BIRD painted Dark Navy Blue with gold lettering. The lead unit number 1000 had a besides the engine and control cab a baggage Compartment and Railway Post Office. The second car 1001 featured all coach seating and the third car features three compartments the first contained seating that the airlines would today call business class followed by some Pullman Upper and lower berth sections and in the rounded Observation end was Parlor seating for the first class. The sole reason for a day train having the Pullman sections was the route of the Blue Bird. It was operated between Minneapolis and Rochester where the famed Mayo Clinic was located and patients were accommodated to and from the clinic in the Pullman Sections. Unfortunately the Great Depression was just months away after the trains introduction and it was sidelined never to operate again.

[passengerfan]

Well Tom back again. Time for a double CR and round for the house.
TED The MKT and FRISCO Jointly operated the TEXAS SPECIAL between St. Louis and San Antonio. When the Frisco withdrew their TEXAS SPECIAL consist the MKT still operated theirs but it became a Kansas City - San Antonio train. The MKT was probably so well remembered by the people they came in contact with. The Katy realized early on they were surroiunded by larger RRs and made every effort to please shippers large or small. The effort carried over into their passenger trains and was probably why the railroad is remnebered so affectionatly by those who lived in Katy country. The Frisco operated the FIREFLY a streamlined steam powered three car train between Tulsa and San Francisco. The three car trains were streamlined in the roads own Springfield shops from old heavyweight cars. The METEOR trains received new streamlined equipment from Pullman Standard by June 1948 and were operated between St. Louis and Oklahoma City overnight. The TEXAS SPECIAL cars owned by the Frisco for the most part found assignmnet in the Kansas City Florida Special after they no longer were part of the TEXAS SPECIAL operation. Many of the lightweight streamlined sleeping cars of the Frisco were sold to Canadian National for further service. Many of the former MKT and Frisco Coaches were purchased by the GN and SP&S for further service.

[Trainnut484]

Hello Tom and everyone [:)]. Cindy, I'll have a Miller Lite.

Hello again Ted. As Al pointed out above, the Katy went above the call of duty for their customers/passengers. EMD fans primarily like the MKT because their diesel fleet was almost all EMD. They had some Alco's, Baldwins, and a few GE 70 tonners in the first diesel generation years, but near the end it was all EMD with the exception of three U23Bs. The GEs were prone to mechanical problems and mainly kept near Parsons, KS till their trade-in to EMD in 1984. UP aquired the Katy in August of 1988.

Another Miller Lite please.

Russell

[nickinwestwales]

Well good evening all,[4:-)] TOM,one of your fine Czech beers if you please,try one yourself-they`re suprisingly moreish.....,Well,an unexpected extra shift behind the bar in the village pub has left me wide awake at a time when any sensible person is deep in the arms of morpheus----So,to post-ROB-surely the confederation train cant have looked more gari***han the original GO Train purple,green & white or whatever it was.........TED: ...................................HOW ARE THINGS WITH YOU.......TED,COME IN,IM LOSING YOUR SIGNAL,TED-your Celtic heritage shows through very strongly in your world-view---but mostly in your sense of humour-both of which are valuable assets given the staff under your control..................Now,several of you were kind enough to pass comment on thursdays menu,all the products suggested are Pembrokeshire local produce,unless otherwise noted,and not necessarily available elseware-a small detail I neglected to consider--if anybody requires any specifics about any dish,-just ask.............fading fast,night all nick[C=:-)]

[nickinwestwales]

P.S.--WestCoast--with a few nips and tucks I could make a hell of a blues tune outta that-lets talk copyright...!!!..take care now,nick[C=:-)]

[siberianmo]

Evenin' Guys!

Just stopped by to check out things .... looks like the guys are having some interesting and in depth conversations. Nice response, Ted Balderdash! How introspective .... better give him a double, Cindy [swg]

From Silver Throttle Award to Balderdash all in the same day! [wow] This place is too much ........ [%-)]

Dave On the serious side for a second - I found your Post regarding the McKeon pre-Doodlebug - interesting, with no reason to doubt what was said. Thanx. [tup]

Oh [yeah] Tweeeeeeeet Tweeeeeeet, Rule Violation - Rule Violation - Rule #2, not ordering a drink! [tdn] Boris ring the bell and put it on Dave's tab! [yeah]

Al As always, appreciate the rounds [yeah] and propensity to keep the conversations rollin' along! [tup][tup]

Russell It's a good Saturday nite 'round here and having you join in makes it even moreso. Those railroads are just heralds to me, for in the day so of their hey-day operations, I lived elsewhere. Today, they are well represented on my S-gauge layout! [yeah]

Catch y'all tomorrow ......... Leon the Night Man has the bar. Thanx, Cindy!! [tup][swg]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

Nick

Just caught your Post before logging out ..... once again, you're up rather late (or early, depending on how you look at it!) Nights in your life are far different from mine ever were! [swg] I know that those days (daze) are long gone for me ..........

I see you are getting there with catching up on the Posts - takes time, eh [?] [tup]

Dave's classic Post turned into a blues tune [?] In the words spoken by our esteemed Manager, Ted - Balderdash! [swg]

Catch ya later! [zzz]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[Anonymous]

Here's a pic for West Coast S and the mail slot

This one is on its way to the Nevada State Railway Museum. More pics are on their site at http://www.nsrm-friends.org/nsrm44-1.html
Here's the motorcar you were describing. We don't have any at IRM, but we do have a McKeen design steel box car built in 1906.

[siberianmo]

SUNDAY’s NEWS & SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS

”Our” Place” is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s. We open tomorrow at 6 AM (all time zones – don’t even ask how we do that! [swg] Want to leave a Post [?] Just drop it in the mail slot located in either set of front doors and it will get to us.

Enjoy this day for what it was meant to be – a day of rest. [tup]

News of the Day:

Commentary Been away for awhile [?] Check out the Posts and SUMMARIES for the time you’ve been away. You won’t be disappointed as we’ve had some great stuff to talk about this past week ………. [tup]

Silver Throttle Award First receipient: West Coast S Dave Congratulations! [wow][yeah][swg][tup][tup][tup]

SUMMARY

Name - Date/Time - (Page#) – Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 27 Aug 2005, 07:02:41 (88) Saturday’s News & Summary

(2) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 27 Aug 2005, 08:36:25 (88)

(3) siberianmo Tom Posted: 27 Aug 2005, 09:44:08 (88) reply to Theodorebear & First Silver Throttle Award

(4) Trainnut484 Russell Posted: 27 Aug 2005, 11:20:31 (88)

(5) Christian Huether Posted: 27 Aug 2005, 11:38:29 (88) [?]

(6) siberianmo Tom Posted: 27 Aug 2005, 14:11:17 (88) response to Christian

(7) siberianmo Tom Posted: 27 Aug 2005, 14:27:42 (88) reply to Trainnut484 & Theordorebear

(8) West Coast S Dave Posted: 27 Aug 2005, 18:57:00 (88)

(9) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 27 Aug 2005, 19:31:49 (88)

(10) passengerfan Al Posted: 27 Aug 2005, 19:32:55 (88)

(11) passengerfan Al Posted: 27 Aug 2005, 20:07:11 (88)

(12) Trainnut484 Russell Posted: 27 Aug 2005, 21:13:58 (88)

(13) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 27 Aug 2005, 21:56:35 (88)

(14) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 27 Aug 2005, 22:04:33 (89)

(15) siberianmo Tom Posted: 27 Aug 2005, 22:07:55 (89) reply to West Coast S – Theodorebear – passengerfan & Trainnut484

(16) siberianmo Tom Posted: 27 Aug 2005, 22:14:11 (89) reply to nickinwestwales

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That’s it! [tup][;)]
Tom (Siberianmo) [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[Anonymous]

"The previous announcement (Aug. 27, 19:31 hrs) was a test...only a test! Had this been a real emergency, you would have been advised to tune your radio dial to 640- -940 Conalrad for further instructions." Dave, you are a good sport as well as a prolific scholar. Great research on the Gas Electrics! Thanks Russell and passengerfan Al for the information on the old Katy Line, it is much appreciated.[tup] Today's businessmen could profit from the "service with a smile" agenda, as M.K.T. did in their day.[^]

Know whatcha you mean Tom 'bout going off on a wild tamgent with modeling. At one point I wanted to go logging, repleat with helix at both ends of the layout, Shay locos timbered mtns., saw mill, the whole Enchilada. The only thing standing in the way was tearing out one wall of the garage, relocating water pipes and adding a car port.[8] Say, the proposed Alaska trek sounds ideal for maximum r.r.ing in a given time frame. Prices are high, as you know, but the wilderness experience on two ribbons of steel is second to none. My encounter with the 49th was less romantic in that we flew everywhere on "Boxcars" and Globe Masters that had seen their best days 20 years prior.[:O] Oh yes, there weren't many vehicular bridges in some areas which brought a new deminsion to "maritime" shuttle service.

Nick[C=:-)], the poor reception isn't due to Katrina. No, its my old Stromberg Carlson short wave which has many years on me.[oops] You have your "work cut-out for you with the lyrics to Dave's ballad. However, the "Blues" framework is certainly appopriate.[^] I hope there is ample work (gigs) in the area. Hereabouts, it is either "feast or famine" with more of the latter than the former. I quit taking "club dates" (dances, teas, casuals, etc.) when I noticed some younger "honkers" using their Union cards for patches on their shoe soles.[:O]

Okay, enough of my "small talk," I need to pop a r.r. tape in the VCR for inspiration. This Sunday, I'll opt for sand instead of pebbles in the envelope. Boris complained about the rocks being difficult to wax over.[alien] Happy rails one and all.

[siberianmo]

Mornin' Ted

[yeah] It's that time to clean up 'round here and get everything ready for a new work week beginning in the 'morrow. A bit later on, I'll be taking the Boyz, Boris 'n Leon up to the cabin for their weekly romp through the wildnerness. Heaven help the critters of the forest! [swg]

A test [?] Had me wondering for sure. Well, I've had moments such as those - just said whatever came to mind - then later on reflected, and .......... [%-)][%-)][%-)]

Man oh man, things are looking grim for the folks in the path of Katrina - last report I heard was that the sustained winds are now at 160 mph. Nothing at all to fool with and I'm in hopes that N'rlns will somehow be spared from the wrath of this monster. Nevertheless, when she does come ashore - Katy bar the door. [tdn]

We are going to make that journey to Alaska for our wedding anniversary trip. A bit early for our 15th - but, that's the time of year when my bride will be in between semesters. As you may recall, I was in Alaska during 1959-60 on a tour of duty aboard a buoy tender in Kodiak. Got to see just about all of the coastal ports and then some. The Aleutians - Bering Sea - the passage to Seattle - just a wonderful experience. Traveled up to Fairbanks on leave aboard a train operated by the U.S. Army ........ flew with a guy who owned a seaplane (tree top level) then on to Anchorage and back. Did lots of things in those days and also worked as a part-time bartender in a place no longer in existence, thanx to the earthquake and tsunami of 1963. Memories.

Haven't firmed up the itinerary - but we know that a cruise is out. This will be all about trains - and we'll fly directly to Anchorage to start the holiday. Wanna come up to Missouri and dog-sit Juneau [?] [swg]

Good choice - sand in lieu of what you refer to as pebbles. We can use it 'round here to fill in the divots out back from whatever the creature is leaving those 3-toed prints in the hard clay. Wonder what it could be [?]

Enjoy this fine day ....... and perhaps a bit of prayer is in order for our troops and all of us who support 'em! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

Hey barndad Doug

Just caught your Post hiding right before the SUMMARY .....

That's a rather futuristic looking McKeen for the times, wouldn't you agree [?] Now, with regard to Ted and his Balderdash remark - I can understand it! [swg]

Thanx! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[Gunns]

Trying out new "hover note" tech, No NO not the fi***ank!

Well thanks all for the comment, I found the link while dogpiling for New Mexico Shotr lines...
latest work session is up in the museum thread.
Gunns