"OUR" PLACE - SEE NEW THREAD!

[trolleyboy]

Good evening Tom and the gang. I'll leave a donation for the breakfast delicasies tomorrow[;)] Tom I think I'm going to go for sept 8 for no apparent reason as the big 100 day.I think that the worst is still yet to be found out about NO still. Much larger death estimates than one would have thought possible.I would say that monetary donations would be everyone's best bet. I know that the Canadian red cross has said money's the best option at the moment as cloths and food have no really good way of getting into the city at the moment.Looks as though our fed govt is likley going to match the RCross monies same as they did with the Tsumani last dec. Nick Yes Bob did us proud, after he retired from Go he tended to consult in other places. TTC subway, he even wen t down and gave his thought to NO transit when they were rehabilitating their river front line ( will likley need rebuildin g again) Chris good to see you back in the old online fold. Amazing pictures from Delson as well! A railfans nirvanna to be sure,one could quite easily get lost in that massive collection. Well it's a late evenong so I'm calling it quits for now, will be back again tomorrow. Oh BTW Tom and Ted you have mail. Rob

[siberianmo]

Good early Morning!

Insomnia and dial up are turning this early morning into frustration! Seems my wireless connection isn't ....... took 1/2 hour just to get to this point using dial-up. Argggggh. [tdn]

Pete Glad you liked the pix - I'm sure Chris will appreciate your comments. Can't offer much with regard to the steam loco's - but there are those who will! [swg]

Rob Okay - September 8th it is! Your pick wouldn't have anything to do with your Natal Day now would it [?] [swg]

When will we reach 100 Pages [?]

Rob says September 8th
Dave says September 5th
Pete says Sepember 12th
Dan says September 1st, 2nd or 3rd***
Ted says September 15th, 16th or 17th***

***Sorry, but to be eligible for the PRIZE, only one date may be selected! [swg]

What do YOU say [?] CONTEST CLOSES TODAY!

I'd like to be optimistic regarding the situation in New Orleans, but it is looking worse as time goes on ....... It would seem to me that people on the ground are needed now more than ever in order to gain the upper hand on all of it - flooding - looting - care for the survivors, etc. I've read nary a word of offers for help from anywhere other than Washington, DC. Don't doubt for a second that the so-called international community will come 'round - but the media these days likes to accent only the negative. Sad.

Glad you liked the pix ....... [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

THURSDAY’s NEWS & SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS

G’day All! A new month and only three weeks until the fall season! [yeah]

Kick off the 9th month of the year with some freshly brewed Joe – a pastry or two from The Mentor Village Bakery and perhaps a light breakfast ……. [tup]

News of the Day:

(1) Repeat Consider helping those who are suffering from the effects of Hurricane Katrina.

(2) The Selection Committee for The Order of the Stools will meet this month and release their results by mid-September. It is the objective of the Selection Committee to recognize the customers of ”Our” Place through either a Reserved or Permanent Stool award. As always, participation in the form of meaningful Posts on a regular basis is the cornerstone for an award.

(3) Thursday ‘round here is Fish ‘n Chips Nite along with whatever our Chief Chef, [C=:-)] Nick may have for us on the Nick’s Picks menu board. Dinner [dinner]is served from 5 PM ‘til closing …….

(4) Contest: What date will we reach 100 Pages [?] Prize: Open bar for winner on any Mon, Tues or Wed evening. [yeah] For those who picked a range of dates – sorry, if you want the prize, you have to pick one date! [swg]

(5) It’s downright embarrassing! If the shoe fits, this is for YOU: I’ve seen a few Posts that clearly reflect inattention to what’s been going on ‘round here. Cause [?] Not reading what has transpired since your last Post and not checking out the SUMMARIES. It’s easy to avoid being embarrassed!

SUMMARY

Name - Date/Time - (Page#) – Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 00:32:42 (91) Wednesday’s News & Summary

(2) wrwatkins *** Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 05:24:07 (91)

(3) passengerfan Al Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 06:54:10 (91)

(4) passengerfan Al Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 07:07:43 (91)

(5) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 07:24:42 (91) reply to wrwatkins & passengerfan

(6) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 09:02:36 (91)

(7) earlydiesels Dan Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 09:18:56 (91)

(8) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 10:30:02 (91) reply to Theodorebear & earlydiesels

(9) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 12:32:50 (91) Cast of Characters and Food Service at ”Our” Place

(10) West Coast S Dave Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 14:04:01 (91)

(11) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 14:33:18 (91)

(12) coalminer3 Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 15:23:37 (91)

(13) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 15:52:56 (92) reply to West Coast S – Theodorebear – coalminer3

(14) pwolfe Pete Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 17:59:06 (92)

(15) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 19:34:26 (92) reply to pwolfe

(16) West Coast S Dave Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 19:49:48 (92)

(17) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 20:03:03 (92) Pix from Delson

(18) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 20:12:54 (92) reply to West Coast S

(19) passengerfan Al Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 21:08:17 (92)

(20) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 21:23:13 (92) reply to passengerfan

(21) pwolfe Pete Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 00:16:38 (92)

(22) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 00:55:13 (92)

(23) siberianmo Tom Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 02:16:49 (92) reply to pwolfe & trolleyboy

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That’s it! [tup][;)]
Tom (Siberianmo) [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[Anonymous]

Good morning Tom and the rest of the earlybirds. Happy September! I'll have a coffee and a cinnamon roll from the Mentor Village Bakery please.

I say this thread will reach 100 pages by 6pm on September 5th. I just can't imagine it taking any longer with a 3-day weekend coming up!

Loved the Scotsman pic Gunns.

Have a great day everyone ... time for this old man to get to work!

[siberianmo]

G'Mornin' barndad Doug

Appreciate your stopping by ...... [yeah] Nice shot of that Scotsman and others .... [tup] By by the by - I posted it and it was from Chris .....

Okay - you're in for September 5th ..... , by 6 PM at that!! [swg]

When will we reach 100 Pages [?]

Doug says September 5th (by 6 PM!)
Rob says September 8th
Dave says September 5th
Pete says Sepember 12th
Dan says September 1st, 2nd or 3rd***
Ted says September 15th, 16th or 17th***

***Sorry, but to be eligible for the PRIZE, only one date may be selected!

What do YOU say [?] CONTEST CLOSES TODAY!


Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[passengerfan]

Good Morning Tom Guess I'll have a cuppa coffee and a diet pastry from the Mentor Bakery if you Please.
Might as well get into the date pick I think we will reach 100 pages by Sept 5, by noon.

[siberianmo]

Mornin' Al

That Post of yours has to be one of the most brief from you - ever! However, it is early (earlier for YOU), so enjoy the coffee and diet [?] pastries! [swg]

Looks like we're really spliting hairs 'round here with the Contest - right down to the hour - good grief!

When will we reach 100 Pages [?]

Al says September 5th (by Noon!)
Doug says September 5th (by 6 PM!)
Rob says September 8th
Dave says September 5th
Pete says Sepember 12th
Dan says September 1st, 2nd or 3rd***
Ted says September 15th, 16th or 17th***

***Sorry, but to be eligible for the PRIZE, only one date may be selected!

What do YOU say [?] CONTEST CLOSES TODAY!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[Anonymous]

Mornin' all, I can't stay for more than a quick hello and a cuppa Joe, 'cause the V.A. needs my carcass this a.m., probably more testing. Oh well, the price is right. Tom, I really need to withdraw from the contest. Not because of my choice of Sep. 16th (re: my Post 09:02, Aug 31, see p. 91) but rather I'm "Staff" and these contests prohibit "in house" participation. SOOoo, good luck to all who enter. BTW, I'm not sure where "Sep. 15, 16 and 17" came from but its of no importance.[8D]

Really enjoy the Pandits of U.K. steam lore (Pete, Chris and Nick). The speed recordings mentioned has prompted me to delve back a bit to the pre W.W. II era. Somewhere, I seem to recall impressive steam speeds being racked up in Germany during the '30's. The R.D.C's attainable speeds literally "floored" me. I didn't know 36" wheel dia. with the available diesel-traction motors-transmission could achieve such speeds. Of course, this is commonplace on the electrified lines of today, i.e. Japan, Germany, France, et al.

Hope to see ya's for fish and chips this p.m. The "count down" for Rob's B'Day Bash began midnight last night. Please "book mark" the date for Sep. 10th, 10:00 p.m. eastern. Will that be 36 + 2 days Rob? Take care all.

[nickinwestwales]

Well good morning [4:-)]TOM and fellow travellers,just popped in en route to the market for tonights fish menu,thought I`d pick up on a couple of things -Given the vast numbers of displaced persons down in the gulf just now, might not the govt accommodate them in empty military bases-surely with the volume of personnel over in the other gulf there must be considerable vacant bed space available with all ameneties laid on...but what do I know !. O.K, onwards and upwards,R.E. the R.D.C speed tests,I seem to recall an article in M.R in the last couple of years-a number of B/W trackside shots and supporting text-ring any bells BORIS---NOOOO not that one.. WOLFMAN-awright mate! like yourself I am an Englishman abroad-no question of divided loyalties on match days-a `9` of Felinfoel Double Dragon is on the weekly Zeppelin and should be settled and ready for consumption by kick-off time. The tank engine you mentioned sounds like a Stroudley "terrier"-built for the London,Brighton & South Coast railway (later Southern Railway)-should be a yellow-ochre livery ( improved engine green-also used on the Highland Railway during Stroudley`s tenure there) with red side rods. a number are preserved-any of you familiar with Thomas et al will recognise Stepney the Bluebell engine. They were also used on the Hayling Island branch-many photos of them crossing Branksome(?) bridge against the sunset have been published. also a couple on the Weston, Cleveland & Portishead Lt Rly ( a real classic of its kind,and worth a submission in it`s own right [^] ) All named after areas served by the L.B.S.C--Waddon is an area of marshland between Croyden and Mitcham in South London-a stones throw from my own childhood home-who`se only claim to fame is as the route of the Surrey Iron Railway,one of U.K`s earliest passenger carrying routes ( along with the Oystermouth and Mumbles Tramway in Swansea) . Well got me another new toy-GoogleWorld- satellite mapping to a fairly good resolution( I took the basic i.e. free version,others are probably better) used it to Zoom in on Steeles ave/Rutherford area of Toronto,where my maps had suggested a yard might be WOW!!!!!!! it`s there,it`s huge,and you can pick out individual autos,box cars,bald heads reflecting sunlight !!!--any of you planning a layout or ,like me ,Carto-junkies ( map freaks) get it-you wont be disappointed !-ROB,may be out to pick your brains later . O.K. ,best get about it,--P.S-Can-Am County park rangers report finding badly mauled remains of a Balderda***he rare flightless bird found only in this region. Initial post-mortem results suggest 2 distinct dental patterns,one a large dog,possibly a husky,the other `not-quite-human`-whe pressed further,the vetinarian burst into tears and refused further comment-guess I`d better check the shed on my way out. pps-I`ll go for Sept 11th for the centenary page,if only to put something positive on a day with such negative memories( the future starts today and all that) have as good a day as you can,given the circs. regards to all,see you tonight nick[C=:-)]

[siberianmo]

Mornin' Ted

First and foremost - you cannot withdraw! Sorry ... I set the rules 'round here and there is no mention of any prohibition regarding Staff participation. However, you will remain ineligible for the PRIZE unless you change your mind regarding a single date! [;)]

A factor with regard to the apparent inability of the U.S. to come up with a reliable hi-speed rail network is the number of grade crossings. They've grown quantum-fold over the decades since we had those PFE's and the like criss-crossing the nation. In Missouri for example, we have the 2nd most number of crossings in the country; Illinois is #1. And before anyone jumps my case about the hi-speed right-of-way extending south from Chicago to St. Louis - I'm aware of it. Also how about the extraordinary methods to ensure that stupid and careless motor vehicle operators get the Full Monty regarding protection at those crossings [?] Devices to catch auto's, etc. No way, no how can we afford this on a nationwide basis. I love that phrase, You can't fix stupid! Now back to hi-speed, et al: as the price of fuel zooms off the charts, sit back 'n wait for the hue 'n cry over things like, "How come we don't have passenger trains [?]" Almost makes me want to laugh ..... Grrrrrrrrrr.[banghead][censored]

Hope all goes well for you at the VA. [tup][tup]

Appreciate the Post ........ See ya this evenin' !

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[nickinwestwales]

[4:-)]TOM- great photo`s that F-unit (F-3 ?) has got me salivating-my G.T.W F-3 may well have a new playmate soon !!! [C=:-)]

[siberianmo]

Well, I'll be, a daytime Post from Nick! [Awwwwwwright ... [tup][tup]

Nice to see ya 'round here this early (or mid-day for you!).

An interesting thought that you posit regarding space aboard military bases. At first glance, that would seem to be feasible. Then again, perhaps not. The facts these days with what we used to refer to as barracks on many of our bases is that more 'n more members of our Armed Forces live off base - and are paid to do it in the form of an allowance. Mainly, these are the married people and careerists - not all, but the majority. This pattern isn't anything new and goes back to the 70's ........ Then there's a real concern for security aboard the bases with a cross-section of society living among and amidst environments that civilians just aren't cleared to be around. Base security have their hands full these days wtih the "911" belt tightening much less having to provide something additional ....... On to medical care and feeding. Military hospitals and clinics simply aren't geared to handle a sustained demand for their services. I'm retired military and cannot - repeat - cannot be seen at one of the largest USAF Bases in our country. Feeding [?] Ha - as with the notion of barracks - mess halls also aren't what our images conjur up. Pay as you go is the way it's done with the cafeterias staffed by civilians, these days on many bases. Again, an allowance is provided to permit one to eat on base or off. So ...... it ain't quite as easy as one might think to do what really appears to be a quick fix.

I recall being involved with some natural disaster responses wherein many survivors were relocated to FEMA trailers and tents. There's a huge stockpile of trailers pre-positioned all over our country and my thinking is that they will soon be deployed to handle the enormous numbers of people requiring shelter. Folks in Florida are still living in 'em from Hurricanes of past seasons ........

I'll have to check through the indexes of MR to find that article you made mention of regarding the RDC's ........ My library goes back to the mid-60s - AND, don't ask why! [swg] If someday Kalmbach decides to put these issues on disks (the way National Geographic has done), then storage will no longer be an issue.

Curious - tell us more about what is required with that satellite mapping toy of yours. Sounds interesting ...... perhaps even something else to become addicted to! Arggggggggh.

Whoa! Hold it! Juneau and Boris do NOT, repeat NOT, romp the forests together. Ain't no way I want Boris biting my dog! [swg] Given that Siberian Husky's are rather close to the Wolf in appearance, I think those forensic fakers (note, that's fakers. .... ) need to try again. [swg]

Okay you're in for the Contest:

When will we reach 100 Pages [?]

Nick says September 11th
Al says September 5th (by Noon!)
Doug says September 5th (by 6 PM!)
Rob says September 8th
Dave says September 5th
Pete says Sepember 12th
Dan says September 1st, 2nd or 3rd***
Ted says September 15th, 16th or 17th***

***Sorry, but to be eligible for the PRIZE, only one date may be selected!

What do YOU say [?] CONTEST CLOSES TODAY!

See ya tonite! Looking forward to your menu .......[C=:-)]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[coalminer3]

Good Morning All: Quarters for the jukebox and a round of whatever eye-openers folks want. Foggy here this a.m., but weather is supposed to improve. Gas (regular) is at $3.09 - glad I have a small vehicle.

Interesting how the RDC thread pops up now and again. Shoreliner was the name used by the New Haven. Beeliner was used by the NYC, but as I mentioned before, that name was first used on the Boston and Albany.

The Roger Willimas was one of three lightweight "experimental" trains purchased by the New Haven. The other two, the John Quincy Adams and the Dan'l Webster had less than stellar careers. The Roger, however, survived into Amtrak. I think I told the story abt. a cab ride on it way back in these pages. Anyway, the Roger is still around and iirc, being restored. Again, I am relying on memory here, but I think part of it is already completed. If you have not checked out the Friends of Bedford Depot website you should as there is all sorts of B&M RDC stuff on their site. They are in the midst of cosmetically restoring a B&M RDC.

Re the Penn Central: I have no case for or against them, but it sure made for some interesting power visits into New England including big PRR Alcos along with a lot of other exotic stuff which sometimes drifted over onto Consol unit trains which operated between WV and Bow, NH. I recall seeing a B&M GP7/GP9/PC F7B/ and PC RS32 on one of these trains. Talk abt a rolling museum. Yes, I did get pictures so I haven't been into Boris's "private stock," you know, the Mason jar that's on the floor beside the shotgun under the bar (I do apprecaite your efforts to make us feel like we're at home).

B4 I forget, the new issue of Railroad History (BTW I appreciate their new format) has some excellent color pictures of lithographs of British RRs back in the 19th century.

They also have a story of B&O electrification in Baltimore and a story about the Shedd Aquarium's fish cars. The fish car I remember used to appear every so often on L&N passenger trains. It was a lw car fitted up with tanks for the beasties, crew accommodations, etc. I recall seeing it mostly on days when the "South Wind" operated with the Pan as the car seemed to be on a pretty regular circuit between Chicago and Florida.

One last fish operation I remember hearing about was the fi***rains that ran on the Boston and Albany from Boston west. According to the old timers I knew, these were a little slice of heaven when they rolled by, especially in the summer. Just abt. as much fun as the pig trains that ran east to the Squires packing plant in Boston.

Well, fill up the thermos and on my way...is there a special on the menu for Labor Day weekend?

work safe

[Trainnut484]

Good morning Tom and all [:)]. I'll have a cup of hot java and a big danish from the Mentor Bakery please. Can't believe it's already September.

I'm tossing in my vote for Sept 9th as when we'll reach 100 pages. Great pics from Chris. Sad to see the boarded up windows on the F unit [V]. The CP's early paint scheme on the ALCO switcher looks great [tup].

Gotta go for now.

Russell

[siberianmo]

G’day coalminer3

More quarters [?] That’ll keep us in tunes for the long weekend! [tup] Boris Ring the bell, our West Virginia connection is buying …. [yeah]

I haven’t been out since yesterday afternoon – and gas prices then were still at $2.79 for regular – today they’ve topped $3.00 according to the local news. Lots of unhappy people and who knows where or when this ends [?]

RDC’s are classics and occupy a significant place in U.S. passenger railroading. Don’t recall if you mentioned those RDC’s operating down in Dallas by Trinity Rail Express, but there are some photo’s to check out of my trip back to pages 79 & 80. Riding in the cab of one for about 40 miles was the highlight, no doubt! [tup]
Thanx for clarifying what I had recalled you telling us – two Beeliners – B&A and NYC.

I have some great photo’s of those experimentals you mentioned – especially the famed Roger Willaims. Didn’t know it was being restored. By the by, for anyone interested in a great site – check out:
http://www.bedforddepot.org/Gallery.html - Friends of Bedford Depot.

Being a dyed in the wool PRR fan with some fantastic memories beginning in the 1940’s – it’s very difficult to accept the mere existence of something called Penn Central. The NYC was chief rival of the Pennsy and to somehow fold in those two names – ugh. [yeah] I know how it all came about and the ill fated business venture didn’t last all that long. That funky green color didn’t do much for me either! [tdn] How do I really feel, you ask [?] [swg]

Funny thing about that shotgun, Boris took it away from an irate customer one night and it’s been back behind the bar ever since. We get some strange ones in here from time to time …… Mason jar [?] Oh [yeah] THAT jar – well, it’s a concoction used to wipe down the brass rails. Only thing is, Boris thinks it’s his tonic.

Can’t comment on Railroad History or the fish cars – perhaps others will.

Special for the Labor Day weekend [?] Just the family picnic on Monday, which will be announced tomorrow.

Appreciate your Post and hope to see ya back soon.

Trainnut484 Russell

Almost missed your Post – good to see you this AM. [yeah] Time flies ‘round here when you’re having fun! [swg] August seemed to be the longest month – ever. Just didn’t want to end. Twenty one days until the Fall! Now that’s worth looking forward to ……. [tup]

Glad you enjoyed the pix from Delson via Chris. I felt pretty much the same as you when I looked at those RDC’s … especially in light of my recent experience with the refurbished ones down in Dallas. Mixed emotions – glad they are still around, sad to see ‘em in that condition.

You’re in for September 9th.

When will we reach 100 Pages [?]

Russell says September 9th
Nick says September 11th
Al says September 5th (by Noon!)
Doug says September 5th (by 6 PM!)
Rob says September 8th
Dave says September 5th
Pete says Sepember 12th
Dan says September 1st, 2nd or 3rd***
Ted says September 15th, 16th or 17th***

***Sorry, but to be eligible for the PRIZE, only one date may be selected!

What do YOU say [?] CONTEST CLOSES TODAY!

Catch y’all later!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[CFournier]

Hi guys, A Samuel Adams please TOM.
Glad to see you guys liked the Delson pictures I sent to TOM. I just can't post them myself ![:o)] Here are some facts about the locos in the said pics:
1. CNR 6153 4-8-4 MLW 1929 ( with my son Thomas in front)
CN 6153 is one of 203 "Northern" type locomotives on Canadian National Railways that formed the mainstay of CN's steam power in the 1940's for both passenger and freight service. CN 6153 took part in the "End of an Era" ceremony at Turcot Yards on September 4, 1960. It is essentially unmodified and is in moderately good condition.

22. BR 60010 4-6-2 Doncaster 1937 ( as mentionned in preceding pages...)
British Rail's 60010, "The Dominion of Canada", represents British railways and serves as an interesting contrast to CN 5702. The "A-4" class of locomotives holds the world speed record for steam at 126 1/2 miles per hour. The Dominion of Canada was in the speed trials. It is a streamlined locomotive, equipped with a speedometer and a corridor tender with a water scoop. These features permitted it to cover the 393 miles from London to Edinburgh without service stops, whereas most Canadian locomotives in the same service would stop every 125-150 miles for water.
3. CP 7077 S-2 MLW 1948 (with my son again)
Canadian Pacific diesel switcher 7077 was exhibited at the Canadian International Trade Fair in Toronto, Ontario, and at Windsor Station in 1948 as MLW's first production diesel. It is part of MLW's first diesel production run in Canada. Its 539 turbocharged engine is representative of 1940's technology; the body is standard switcher configuration. All major Canadian railroads used them in the early diesel era.

16. LB&SC 54 0-6-0T Brighton 1875 ( the Waddon as mentionned by Nick and Rob)
London, Brighton and South Coast Railway #54 is the oldest locomotive in the collection and represents a 19th century British locomotive. This piece, with its inside cylinders, provides an interesting comparison with CP 144. The "Waddon" was modified in 1910 and 1937, and hence is known as a class A1x Terrier. It is equipped with the 1875 Westinghouse air brake.( I'll try to post a pic of this little tank engine).
NICK, now the CN's F unit is a F-7, if i am not mistaking by the looks of the grills and portholes, wich the museum acquired recently, and it is not in their on-line roster yet. Maybe someone with an old Diesel spotting guide could help us here...
[;)]CHRIS

[CFournier]

PS
BTW big # 100 on the 5th...
Chris

[siberianmo]

G'day Chris

Appreciate the elaborations regarding your pix ..... What - no RDC mention!! Geesh!. I received your Emails with additional pix .... may take a bit longer to post them as it is a time consuming transfer, but it'll happen. [swg]

Okay - you're in for September 5th ....

When will we reach 100 Pages [?]

Chris says September 5th
Russell says September 9th
Nick says September 11th
Al says September 5th (by Noon!)
Doug says September 5th (by 6 PM!)
Rob says September 8th
Dave says September 5th
Pete says Sepember 12th
Dan says September 1st, 2nd or 3rd***
Ted says September 15th, 16th or 17th***

***Sorry, but to be eligible for the PRIZE, only one date may be selected!

What do YOU say [?] CONTEST CLOSES TODAY!

Enjoy Mr. Adams' finest ....... See ya later! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[Anonymous]

Evening Tom and all. I'll just have alite beer. Do you roll dice around here?[;)] Loved your link. I need to look at it again when I can take more time.

Apologies to Chris, who took the Scotsman pic. My bad.

The wife is feeling a little under the weather, so I need to get back to her (and probably catch whatever she has) [:(!] Ya'll take care !

[siberianmo]

G'day barndad Doug

Second visit! Have a Bud Lite on me ...... [tup]

Dice [?] [yeah] We've got some bar dice 'round here .... Last I saw 'em, Boris was trying to make soup with 'em ....... [swg]

I'll have a few more pix to Post from Chris in a day or two .... from Delson.

Take care of your bride and we'll catch ya later! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[Anonymous]

Good evening, everyone. I'll take a tequila, neat, please. Tom, I will quit straddling the fence and pick Sept 3th for our 100th post.
Chris and Tom, thanks for the pix. I have a special place in the heart for museums and anything preserved is a link from the past showing where we've been for the people of the future. I also am very fond of Alcos so really liked the CP S2. That older paint scheme is snazzy!
Borrowed some more old mags from the museum. A 1973 Trains has a article about the beginnings of the gas electric "doodlebugs". Great old pix but it's a 2 parter so now gotta find the 2nd part. Frisco had several numbered in the 2100s. A mention was made of a wreck that occurred at Tipton Ford, Mo. that I have heard of but found very little info about. Seems a doodlebug belonging to the original M&NA met a KCS train headon in August 1914, killing 47. Today, there is diddly squat at Tipton Ford other than the KCS and I've no idea where the M&NA track was. I've always been interested in wrecks on railroads. Sometimes the official report is on the NTSB website. I found info on a PC wreck back in 73 or so where a train went thru a open drawbridge, taking everything above the frame off cleaner than a whistle. The remains of the 1st unit continued into the river.
Well, I write a book review column for the Midland newsletter and a review is due this weekend so I better get crackin!

[siberianmo]

Evenin' earlydiesels Dan

Adjustment made - you're in for the 3rd!

Always learn something from the guys at the bar - never knew about the 1914 Doodlebug wreck. I'll have to recheck a couple of my books to see if I can find a reference. Speaking of wrecks, I participated in rescue ops for a commuter train that went into the drink in New Jersey. That was back in the early 1960's ..... really grim. I think the Engineer failed to recognize a stop signal and ran right off the opened bridge into the Raritan Bay. Many dead - water was red in places. Grim memories from long ago.

Enjoy your T ....... [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all.
A pint of Bathams or Brains whichevers on and Fish and Chips please. [^]

TED I have found an old Steam railway mag. left over from an earlier visit with an article on high speed steam and yes in1936 a German 05 class 4-6-4 loco achieved 124.5 M.P.H. in 1936 it also says that in 1936 a Milwaukee F7 4-6-4 was tested with a 550 ton train and averaged 120 M.P.H. over 4.5 miles with a top speed of 125 M.P.H. if you would like to have the magazine drop an e-mail you be most welcome to it.

NICK Thanks for the shipment of FELINFOEL beer I wonder if TOM will have the match on 9.00am Saturday.I will have a pint every time England score or if the worst happens one at half-time and one at full-time. Thanks for the info on WADDON and town of the same name. In the picture it looks a slight reddish colour which as you say is different to STEPNEY on the Bluebell Railway .I was able to have a ride behind her she seems a strong engine despite the small size, but the exhaust sounded odd with a coughing like sound.

CHRIS Thanks for the info on the fine photos and ring the bell BORIS a round for all please[tup]

Well TOM one for the road and compliments to the[C=:-)][yeah][wow] PETE>

[nickinwestwales]

Well good evening [4:-)] TOM,fellow travellers,casual browsers,bar tending lovelies & of course,Boris-you horrid little creature,what did you do to that poor birdie-no treats for you tonight,away to the naughty corner with you and dont come back `til you here from me !!! awright,to beer, a quick Staropramen for me,you no doubt will be happy to shake the hand of Mr Alexander,Chris,if memory serves,prefers a good single malt (health permitting),Ted,as manager can obviously make his own choice. Should any other "stools" drift through then please place their first drink on my tab-I see barndad in the corner,take a drink my friend & make yourself comfortable,O.K,to post before we get the menu sorted-[4:-)]TOM-thanx for clarification-as intimated,no real data but seemed like a possible option-dont want to be contentious here but it seems bizarre to me that the #1 global superpower can be caught so flat-footed--surely,when your city is built below sea-level and is surrounded by water there is,somewhere in city hall,a plan for situations like this----------The mapping program is GOOGLE EARTH takes a few minutes to load,but well worth the effort. -Agree with your comments re Penn Central-the worst of all possible worlds,doomed from the outset,onwards and upwards !!!--COALMINER3-welcome my friend,you wanna labour day special-you got it. call `em out and I`ll cook `em if I can -if I`ve not cooked it before,tell us how you like it and we`ll see what we can do...!!!!! CHRIS-Bonjour mon ami,Quesque ce toi ?,nice bunch of pix-reason I suggested F-unit as F3 was arrangement of visible plates and framing behind grills-only evidence I have to work from is low-end ( Model Power & Bachman ) H0 models-engine # fits F7 according to C N Lines files,as does # printed on my Bachman F9 (9162).....go figure as they say....have some data to hand re speed trials All engines A4`s xcept papyrus (A3) August 1937, between Bytham & Werrington ( 12.7 miles,including Stoke Bank-The Racecourse ) 1:- Papyrus load,217 tons,max speed 108 mph,av speed96.0 2:-Silver Fox load,270 tons,max speed 113 mph,av speed 98.4 mph 3:-DOMINION OF CANADA ,load 320 tons,max speed 109.5 mph,av speed 92.4 mph 4:-Commonwealth of Australia,load 325 tons,max speed106 mph,av speed,103.5 mph right,more beer landlord-I`ve fi***o cook-tonight we have, seafood crepes-cockles,mussels,scallops & baby prawns in a provencal sauce,wrapped in thin pancakes,topped with grated cheddar and grilled, whole red mullet,grilled or pan-fried, lobster with chef`s shallot and red coral sauce (serves two).. For non-fishies we also have traditional liver and bacon-floured & pan-fried lambs liver with streaky bacon,topped with onion gravy and black pudding slices or for the real purists brocolli & cauliflower 3-cheese bake. all the above served with whatever veg are ready to go in the garden and a choice of French fried,Jacket or Pommes Mentor-(prepare as dauphinoise but substitute red onions for white,replace one third of pots. with thin sliced parsnip and top with breadcrumbs and bake without cover)----O.K,that looks like a menu,I`ll be in the kitchen if anyone needs me,bon appetite,nick[C=:-)]

[nickinwestwales]

Wolfman -awright mate-yeah, the Stroudley Terriers,yes they do have a pulling power quite beyond what one might expect-I suspect yer man hit on the right formula for wheel size,cylinder volume,engine weight and length of crank axle,whether by accident or design and yes,they do have something of a "bark" about them when opened up-ferocious little beasts,love em...[^]...saw Stepney working up Freshfield bank with 4 on back in the day...glorious stuff------------------[C=:-)]prediction England 3 Wales 1-(Giggs bound to tap one in...),enjoy your weekend,nick

[siberianmo]

Evenin' All ........ Nice crowd in here for a change on Thursday nite. Fish 'n Chips movin' well along with Nick's Picks - that's some selection that our Chief Chef [C=:-)] has put together, eh [?] The man is truly amazin' ....... [tup]

Pete We have 3 large screen TV's in here, all hooked up to satellite - video equipped as well. The game will be on - count on it. [tup]

Received your Email reply - and yes, some pix would be appreciated. Advance thanx to your bride! [swg]

Nick Appreciate your taking the time to help with our Thursday bill of fare ... fantastic effort as always. Enjoyed the Post as well. [tup][tup] Very interesting time trial data ...... Thanx for the info on Google Earth.

Can't take credit or blame for a city constructed below sea level. New Orleans was begun way before Louisiana became a state. Now, I fully concur with your thoughts regarding what appears to be very poor planning on the part of those who administer to the needs of the city - translated: politicians in City Hall. Insofar as the response to the overwhelming conditions down there - I'm not about to be critical of those trying their level best to help. When one is dealing with the forces of nature - that's one thing. When dealing with those bent on making sure that the finger of blame gets pointed - that's quite another. Just upsets me beyond belief to listen to the wrist wringers finding fault when this is a time that my fellow citizens should be pullilng together for the betterment of those in distress.

I think I'll sign off on that note ....... Leon the Night Man has arrived ......

Nite! [zzz]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[trolleyboy]

Good evening everyone.I'll partake of the mullet and chips please washed down with a fine carling black label or two[dinner] Tom No I would never pick that day cause it was my natal day ( he say's while whistling to himseif ) I'm thinking that if the gas prices stay where they are a high speed rail ( electric or other network ) may not need to worry about the grade crossings you may see less and less cars and trucks et all ( I know dreaming again ) I unfortunatly wasn't dreaming the $1.25.6 a litre I paid this morning that's hovering near the $5 a gallon mark not good at all. Ted You seem more excited bout my birthday than me by the by it will be 34 and two days [swg] Oh package is in the mail [tup] Nick Fell free to pick my brain whenever just don't pick too hard i don;'t want to end up like Boris [alien][:O] I didn't catch the number on that CNR F7, they did have the F3's as well just not very many #9000 to 9005 all A units no 3B's on the CN. They did roam system wide and would certainly have mixed with their GTW F3 breathren. Info comes from Rail Canada Volume 1from LPD publishing the Rail Canada series vol 1 to 5 are a good reference for all CDN railway paint diagrams unit numbers and photo's colour and BLK/WHT. Vol 1 is CN Vol 2 TH&B, BCR/PGE/ONR and sveral PQ roads. Vol 3 CPR vol 4 VIA cars and engines and volume 5 Go and all the various sundry shortlines. Oh Nick saw the new Lifelike Canada ONR RS-10 models today sound equiped $250 CDN non sound $160 early yellow and blue lightening bolt paint job loco 1400 and 1401. Nice lookers thought you would want to know.I reme,mber reading the articles and seeing a PBS clip on the NYC jet RDC test. I'm actually suprised that that thing didn't suck in a whole lot of ballast and spontainiously combust, quite a chance they took. One wonders how much if any this test effected the development and eventual building and use of the Turbo trains on CN / Via / and Amtrak. Well gents I'm off and running, one day of work then away up northwards for some cruising and relaxing. I'll pop back in when I can. Rob

[siberianmo]

Hi Rob

There once a commercial that kinda went like this, "Hey, Mabel - Black Label." Haven't heard it in decades 'n decades; reminds me of my youth. Carling was a big brewer here in the States - Baltimore, I believe was where they once were located.

Hope the get-away is relaxing and fun for you and your bride!

Enjoy and we'll be here for ya upon your return! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

FRIDAY’s NEWS & SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS

[yeah] Friday has arrived with a long weekend awaiting! Awwwwwwwright! Let’s get to the happenings ‘round here ……. [tup]

News of the Day:

(1) Repeat Consider helping those who are suffering from the effects of Hurricane Katrina.

(2) repeatThe Selection Committee for The Order of the Stools will meet this month and release their results by mid-September. It is the objective of the Selection Committee to recognize the customers of ”Our” Place through either a Reserved or Permanent Stool award. As always, participation in the form of meaningful Posts on a regular basis is the cornerstone for an award.

(3) Friday ‘round here is Pizza nite along with steak ‘n fries on the menu. [dinner] Begins at 5 PM ……

(4) Labor Day picnic! Bring your family and friends to the First Annual ”Our” Place Labor Day Picnic. Festivities begin at noon Monday and will wind up with a fireworks display at 9 PM (all time zones – don’t ask how we do that! [swg]) Water slide and trampoline for the kids – horseshoe pits and good ole summertime fun for the adults. [tup]

SUMMARY

Name - Date/Time - (Page#) – Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 02:24:55 (92) Thursday’s News & Summary

(2) barndad Doug Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 05:53:16 (92)

(3) siberianmo Tom Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 05:59:03 (92) reply to barndad

(4) passengerfan Al Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 07:07:36 (92)

(5) siberianmo Tom Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 07:18:49 (92) reply to passengerfan

(6) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 07:37:36 (92)

(7) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 07:47:36 (92)

(8) siberianmo Tom Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 07:49:47 (92) reply to Theodorebear

(9) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 07:52:59 (92)

(10) siberianmo Tom Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 08:15:04 (93) reply to nickinwestwales

(11) coalminer3 Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 08:54:30 (93)

(12) Trainnut484 Russell Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 09:34:27 (93)

(13) siberianmo Tom Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 10:48:26 (93) reply to coalminer3 & Trainnut484

(14) CFournier Chris Posted: : 01 Sep 2005, 13:41:08 (93)

(15) CFournier Chris Posted: : 01 Sep 2005, 14:15:26 (93)

(16) siberianmo Tom Posted: : 01 Sep 2005, 14:57:45 (93) reply to CFournier

(17) barndad Doug Posted: : 01 Sep 2005, 19:08:27 (93)

(18) siberianmo Tom Posted: : 01 Sep 2005, 19:26:41 (93) reply to barndad

(19) earlydiesels Dan Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 19:39:09 (93)

(20) siberianmo Tom Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 19:47:43 (93) reply to: earlydiesels

(21) pwolfe Pete Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 20:07:45 (93)

(22) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 20:21:54 (93)

(23) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 20:46:14 (93)

(24) siberianmo Tom Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 21:28:20 (93) reply to pwolfe & nickinwestwales

(25) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 22:55:14 (93)

(26) siberianmo Tom Posted: 02 Sep 2005, 05:46:20 (93)

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That’s it! [tup][;)]
Tom (Siberianmo) [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[Anonymous]

Good morning Tom and gents! I'll have some Joe and 3 lite breakfasts. (I love the slimming effect of lite breakfasts!)
I managed to fish (pun intended) 3 of the bar dice from my soup last night. I tossed them into the bathtub upstairs (figuring that Boris doesn't bathe[alien])
I don't know if we will ever have fewer cars around here, but the city of Crystal Lake is opening a 2nd train station this Sunday, and I plan to be on the first train that leaves from it ... just because.
For now, it's time to get my carcass to work, so off I go. Have a great day!