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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, September 13, 2006 7:59 AM

G'day Gents!

A bit more gloom here in mid-continent USA, however - the front has passed thru - temps are more fall-like - and petrol up at "Collusion Corner" is still at $2.25 (rounded).

Aside from some rather obvious absences - our "Theme for the Day - KCS" was successful.  Nice "rounding" from Lars with those book covers - along with the input from Mike (and URLs). A "Robless" day - a "Peteless" day - and a "Dougless (not Douglas <grin>) day! Hope these "regulars" take the time to check out what's been Posted - some good stuff indeed!

When was the last time we saw Nick make 3 Posts in one session Question [?] Can't recall, eh Question [?] Neither can I! Good to see ya becoming more active - BUT - is THIS what Brits do on their Wedding Anniversaries Question [?] Question [?] Hmmmmm - no wonder the birth rate is dropping over there . . . Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] On the serious side - Congrats to you and "Missinick" for 17 years of wedded bliss! Wow!! [wow] Yeah!! [yeah] <right> Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Really enjoyed the Post from Dave- and we'll have to look into that "compound" idea for the critters - don't know why this was addressed to Rob - he's been AWOL for quite awhile 'round here - last Posted on page 389 on Sep 6th - anyway, yes the mascots should have a place to "call their own" - other than Juneau - he's hardly a critter. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] There's room out back for something that won't detract from the aesthetics of our fine looking establishment.

Also, CM3 made the observation regarding Boris being face down in the Penguin chow! Good Gawd Gertie - WHAT are you smoking out there on the Left Coast Question [?] <swg]

Doug - that "transcript" you provided is always good for a laugh - have seen it in several iterations over many years. Seriously doubt that it is real - but then, SOME PEOPLE north of the border would "take it to the bank!" <grin> Having "battled" one or two lighthouses in my days on the bridge - I've found they ALWAYS get the right-of-way! Yeah!! [yeah]

Lars - always good to have you onboard and certainly hope that things settle down for you and the Mrs. on the homefront. We'll miss ya 'round here - although my guess is you'll pop in whenever the opportunity presents itself - for there's no one who has been more dedicated to the resurgence of activitiy 'round here than you. [tup ]Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

BK - what's to say other than Wow!! [wow] - that's quite a rundown on those who "used to be." I too have checked from time to time on some of those names - just to see if they are frequenting the Forums, but not our Thread. When I saw they were - it really ticked me off - not so much that they were doing so - but that they didn't have the common courtesy to at least ship me an E-mail to say 'good bye' or . . . Many of those B'day Bashes took a lot of time and effort to make THEM a bit happier and I look upon those who dropped out without so much as a fair-thee-well as very insulting. But - such is life - "We takes what we gets!"

And finally - as we have done so many, many times on these pages: a comment for a newcomer:

NStrackman -  I suggest that you review the first few pages on this Thread in order to find out what we're all about and how we "do things" in this cyber bar 'n grill for adults. Then check out the last few pages to see what the most current dialogue is all about and who the "customers" are. Should you come back, you'll get your "official welcome" along with a free drink and we'll then be more than willing to engage you in discussing any "classic RR" you wish to bring up. Thumbs Up [tup]

Okay guys, that's it for me  - remember RUTH has the bar at 9 AM 'til 5 PM when Leon the Nightman comes in 'til closing.

Boris - ring the bell and serve 'em up all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Tom Captain [4:-)] Mischief [:-,]

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:55 AM

Good morning Tom and friends. I'll have a light breakfast please, make my excuses and then head-off for job1. Seems I'm popular over at job2, and I've been working it since Saturday. I'll be there again tonight. It pays so lousy that I take all (well most) of the hours they make available. SOrry I'm missing the action at the bar, but I know you all understand. Have a great day!

Clown [:o)]

This is supposedly the transcript of an actual radio conversation of a US naval ship with Canadian authorities off the coast of Newfoundland in October, 1995.

Radio conversation released by the Chief of Naval Operations on November 10, 1995.

Americans: Please divert your course 15 degrees to the North to avoid a collision.

Canadians: Recommend you divert YOUR course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision.

Americans: This is the Captain of a US Navy ship. I say again, divert YOUR course.

Canadians: No. I say again, you divert YOUR course.

Americans: THIS IS THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER USS LINCOLN, THE SECOND LARGEST SHIP IN THE UNITED STATES' ATLANTIC FLEET. WE ARE ACCOMPANIED BY THREE DESTROYERS, THREE CRUISERS, AND NUMEROUS SUPPORT VESSELS. I DEMAND THAT YOU CHANGE YOUR COURSE 15 DEGREES NORTH, THAT'S ONE FIVE DEGREES NORTH, OR COUNTER-MEASURES WILL BE UNDERTAKEN TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THIS SHIP.

Canadians: This is a lighthouse. Your call. Clown [:o)]

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Posted by nickinwestwales on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 9:51 PM

o.k-a good start-care to expand on this at all.??.............by the way the bar is over here-grab a drink,they`re on me tonight,there should also be some steak rolls left

This place is more about discussion than large print statement-talk us through your train of choice,we are genuinely interested-whats the J-611 all about,whats the consist,whats the route (I`m a Brit-I don`t know these things -please share)-others are equally interested,all the best ,

TTFN,nickChef [C=:-)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 9:09 PM

Is this like the Coffee Pot on the CTT forum?

Talk about a Classic Train, N&W Powhatan Arrow.

A Classic Locomotive N&W Class J-611.

 

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Posted by nickinwestwales on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 8:13 PM

Hey-looks like Lars & Mike both crept in through the door behind me-LARS-- fine posters,love that artwork Thumbs Up [tup],MIKE -going to open those URL`s now-the drinks are on the bar,likewise some munchies-Lars -appreciate the drink offer but tonight Im in the chair Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Chef [C=:-)]

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Posted by nickinwestwales on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 8:06 PM

Well good evening gentlemen all,I trust I find you all well ?

Since we have the 17 month anniversary upon us and by a curious example of synchronicity, today is also Missisnick & I`s 17th anniversary (really..), let the drink flow freely-not only the special reserve rum but also the extra extra special cognac & single malt (obtained by H&H on a recent Zeppelin flight back to the old country)-all drinks tonight are with me-sorry folks, your money is no good tonight Confused [%-)]

In order to line the stomachs for an unexpected mid-week carousing I have taken the liberty of preparing some oven-fresh baguettes brim full of pan fried Welsh black fillet steak ,button mushrooms & sweet onions,with just a breath of garlic & cayenne pepper-they are over there by the pickle jar,get `em while they`re fresh--enjoy Chef [C=:-)].

So-to the business of the day-K.C.S-thanks to CM3 & Captain [4:-)]Pirate [oX)]TOM for some top-flight stuff-I can`t decide whether I prefer the exceedingly elegant black livery or the `sunshine` version on the preserved unit featured with PETE in foreground recently...........again the `information superhighway` proves it`s worth Big Smile [:D]

Since I know only what I have learned here about the K.C.S ,I am prepared to risk a "tweeting" by wandering Sign - Off Topic!! [#offtopic]-received today,as an anniversary gift from herself,a 12 disc D.V.D set of great railway journeys.

Only had a brief dip so far ,but the Canadian disc includes a trip from Montreal to Toronto with 2 F40ph`s on the point and a full set of Budd cars with the `Revelstoke Park` on the tail-Ring any bells Captain [4:-)]Pirate [oX)]TOM?

Some interesting motive power elsewhere-The Brazilian segment includes what appears to be a Budd R.D.C 1 converted to 3` 6" gauge with the disc brakes sitting well out from the trucks ,also a pair of what look like double-ended F7`s sitting on 4 trucks and powered by overhead electric-not unlike the Tri-Ang transcontinental model that PETE may remember from the early `60`s.

The Cuban segment is even more weird & wonderfull-what look like vintage Brill trolleys,a centre cab Bo-Bo hauling converted ambulance/troop cars (both overhead electric ) and what looked like an Alco RS2 or 3 but running on either Co-Co or A1A-A1A trucks (possibly ex-C.N units designed for branch line service-this rings a distant bell....advice welcomed)

Mexico featured the Copper Canyon route-a very clean looking geep-(either 38 or 40 ) with modern stock plus some passing shots of more old troop cars now serving as static dormitories.

Right I guess that`s me played out for now-gonna go and fill Herr Wurlitzers constantly empty throat,get the room moving-first up `Brown Sugar` & `Mustang Sally` for no better reason than that we threw them into the set tonight in advance of Saturdays show with my `New Rose`band and using the same logic,`Copperhead Road` by Steve Earle,`Love is the drug` by Roxy Music & `Badge` by Cream from last weeks `Riptide` workout

Take care folks,speak soon

TTFN,nickChef [C=:-)]    

 

 

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Posted by LoveDomes on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 7:25 PM

G'day Captain Tom and fellow travelers at the bar!

Set 'em up Leon - better late than never! Been quite a day - don't wanna talk about it!!

So, it's "Theme for the Day!" and I see we've had Captain Tom - CM3 I'm Not Shane! - BK 'n Mike join in on the festivities.

A fantastic pix journey from Captain Tom in that splendid post - always look forward to those compilations. Never think that they aren't appreciated - they are!

Mike, most interesting write up and more URLs than I could ever handle in one evening - especially one like this.

CM3 I'm Not Shane! So what are the answers Question [?] Good Gawd Gertie (as Tom likes to say, and Rob likes to parrot) what's the delay Question [?] Ain't no way I know the answers. . .

BK - Hey "bookend" you must be in some frame of mind to have spent time researching that kinda stuff! So, they are gone-zo, and we're not! What really makes me wonder with a few of 'em - is why they ever were here in the first place. I mean, surely appears as if the snookered those of us who really do give a "Rat's Patoot"! No matter - an interesting research project which tells us a bit more about YOU and what you THINK about! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

And now - a little something from me:

KCS books!

 

 

 

 

As always, an interesting post from Left Coast Dave - must've been quite a honeymoon! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] That's a real "neat" animation and everytime I see it, I laff out loud (LOL) !! Regarding the repainting rumor - why not  Question [?] Don't know why some guys get their knickers in a knot over what UP has done - I like seeing the old liveries come back. If not - they are surely relegated to join Tom's Legion of the Lost!

Good to see the return of Mike! Thought we lost ya . . . . and I don't know - the Penguin animation cudda just as easily been you and me! <grin>

The night time visit from Nick in West Wales always adds to the flavor of this place - used to be something we all looked forward to. Do you suppose the man is really back with us Question [?] Have an ale on me, mate! Thumbs Up [tup]

Unlike SOME PEOPLE 'round here - I'll give you a heads up, Tom - I may not  be around for a few days - but surely wanted to provide my KCS info B4 getting involved in the never ending excitement of Lars on the Island! <groan>

 

Until the next time! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

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Posted by wanswheel on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 6:55 PM

Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the house

Frostbite, the teething penguin. Video clip of "mom & pop" looks like Tom and me on a good day.

Thanks for all the posts and pictures for Patriot Day, always current in memory

http://memory.loc.gov/award/mhsdalad/020000//020074r.jpg

Kansas City Southern Railway (www.kcsi.com)

Founded in 1887 by Arthur E. Stilwell, The Kansas City Southern Railway Company (KCSR) was built on a north-south axis while the other railroads were being built east and west. Stilwell visualized a railroad from the heart of the U.S. to the Gulf of Mexico to move agricultural products for export to an ocean port via the shortest possible land route. The railroad was completed in the late 1800s from Kansas City to Port Arthur, Texas, which is named after Arthur Stilwell.

Stilwell also visualized building a railroad from Kansas City to Mexico to reach the Port of Topolabampo, the shortest land route to the Pacific Ocean to make Midwest grain competitive in the Asian market. While the vision was not realized in his lifetime, KCS never stopped pursuit of the vision to reach Mexico.

In the mid-1990s, major rail mergers were underway in the western part of the U.S., allowing two major rail carriers to control approximately 90 percent of rail traffic west of the Mississippi River. At the time, KCSR was a smaller, regional railroad whose very existence was threatened by these consolidations. The holding company, Kansas City Southern Industries, Inc. (now Kansas City Southern) either had to ready itself for sale or grow to survive. It chose to pursue a strategy to invest in Mexico, almost a century after Stilwell's vision.

Today, KCSR has been brought under common control with The Texas Mexican Railway Company and Kansas City Southern de Mexico, S.A. de C.V. to form a rail network with primary lanes stretching from Kansas City, Missouri to Lazaro Cardenas to Veracruz, Mexico and from Dallas, Texas to Meridian, Mississippi.

Arthur Stillwell

http://www.museumofthegulfcoast.org/Content/Personalities/Notable_People/Arthur_Stilwell

The Bill Doremuses (Doremus Yard at Shreveport) Time Magazine, May 30, 1949 (www.time.com)

Unlike most boys, Bill Deramus had a head start on his ambition to be a railroad engineer. His father was a division superintendent of the Kansas City Southern Railway Co., and frequently took Bill on rides. Bill never became an engineer, but last week he did even better. At 33, he became president of the Chicago Great Western Railway Co.-the youngest president of any Class I road in the U.S.

The new job climaxed ten short years of railroading for William N. Deramus III, who is as big and brawny as a coal passer. Fresh out of Harvard Law in 1939, he started as a transportation department apprentice with the Wabash Railroad in St. Louis, two years later became assistant terminal master. During the war, as an Army major in India, he ran a ramshackle railroad which carried supplies to the Ledo Road. Said he: "After I got through with that line I was about ready to become a truck driver."

At war's end, he went to work for his father, now president of the Kansas City Southern, as assistant to the general manager. From there on, the tracks were cleared. Deramus Sr. worked with a stockholders' group that was dissatisfied with the management of Chicago Great Western, succeeded in making Coalman Grant Stauffer president last fall. Stauffer made young Bill Deramus his assistant in the Great Western, whose 1,500 miles of track tap six Midwestern states. Young Bill trimmed costs so well that when Stauffer died last March, he was the logical man for the presidency. Now with freight carload-ings off 5.4% from 1948 (v. nearly a 10% average drop for all roads), Bill Deramus hopes to cut costs more by dieselizing the entire line by fall.

Ruth fired! Time Magazine, November 10, 1961 (www.time.com)

William N. Deramus III, 45, former president of the Missouri-Kansas-Texas Railroad, takes over from his 73-year-old father as president of Kansas City Southern Railway. In his four years at the debt-racked Katy, hard-bitten "Young Bill" alienated local affection by reducing employment, skimping on maintenance. At K.C.S. he will find that Father Deramus has the line in such good shape that it earned $3,400,000 for 1961's first eight months. As a replacement for Young Bill, Katy turned to Charles T. Williams, 51, the line's executive vice president, who is expected to continue young Deramus' ruthless cost cutting.

Grand Central Station in Kansas City, built 1890. KCS moved to the new Union Station in 1914.

http://www.kclibrary.org/lhimgs/kcpl/regular/10005991_reg.jpg

http://www.kclibrary.org/lhimgs/kcpl/regular/10005990_reg.jpg

Electro-Motive Corporation

Impressed with the demonstration tour of what became the first standard passenger diesel with the new 567-series prime movers - the E3A demonstrator No. 822, the KCS bought that very unit and also ordered a second unit. Both were delivered on July 31, 1939 and placed in service on the heavyweight Flying Crow, the premier train of the KCS. However, they were intended for use on the new, streamlined Southern Belle due to be delivered in mid-1940. A third E3 unit was delivered in June of 1940. (www.railway classics.com)

http://www.railwayclassics.com/images/kcs01/EMD%20E3A%20on%20KCS.jpg

http://www.railwayclassics.com/images/kcs01/1%20-%201939.jpg

http://www.railwayclassics.com/images/kcs01/3%20-%2040L.jpg

Otto Perry photos

2-10-4 Pittsburg, Kansas 1937

http://photoswest.org/cgi-bin/imager?00012402+OP-12402

2-8-8-0 Pittsburg 1937

http://photoswest.org/cgi-bin/imager?00012399+OP-12399

4-6-2 The Flying Crow, near Kansas City 1934

http://photoswest.org/cgi-bin/imager?00012401+OP-12401

EMD F3 Eve, Missouri 1951

http://photoswest.org/cgi-bin/imager?00012404+OP-12404

Kansas City Southern photos

Southern Belle

http://cvrma.org/pictures/MISC/dfrr5_085_kcs_southern_belle_new_orleans_la_1969.jpg

Observation car

http://cvrma.org/pictures/MISC/dfrr5_086_kcs_lounge_observation_car_kc_mo_1967%20.jpg

EMD F7

http://cvrma.org/pictures/MISC/dfrr5_081_kcs_emd_f7_passenger_livery_colors.jpg

Texarkana

http://cvrma.org/pictures/MISC/dfrr5_077_kcs_texarkana_tx_depot_1968.jpg

KCS Route Map

http://cvrma.org/pictures/MISC/dfrr5_078_kcs_route_map.jpg

1940 Timetable cover

http://cvrma.org/pictures/MISC/dfrr5_079_kcs_passenger_timetable_1940.jpg

Steam freight train

http://cvrma.org/pictures/MISC/dfrr5_080_kcs_62_car_freight_page_okla_1946.jpg

Fairbanks Morse

http://cvrma.org/pictures/MISC/dfrr5_082_kcs_fairbanks_morse_sheffield_jct_kc_mo.jpg

EMD SD40

http://cvrma.org/pictures/MISC/dfrr5_083_kcs_4_emd_sd40s_gregory_blvd_kc_mo.jpg

EMD SD50

http://cvrma.org/pictures/MISC/dfrr5_084_kcs_3_emd_sd50s_red_river_ashdown_ak.jpg

NERAIL photos

KCS 1

http://naphotos.nerail.org/showpic/?photo=2003072920272710991.jpg&byrail%3A3%3AKansas_City_Southern

EMD SD40

http://naphotos.nerail.org/showpic/?photo=2003061719581729771.jpg&byrail%3A4%3AKansas_City_Southern

Switcher

http://naphotos.nerail.org/showpic/?photo=2005051922250225664.jpg&byrail%3A2%3AKansas_City_Southern

New locomotive

http://naphotos.nerail.org/showpic/?photo=2006081020280527947.jpg&byrail%3A1%3AKansas_City_Southern

Photogenic locos in Ireland, Pete. Don't know any more about it, but there was a Flying Dutchess in Chattanooga in 1979

http://www.30937.co.uk/pix/1979OCT09RWBR015cs.jpg

http://www.30937.co.uk/pix/1979OCT09RWBR017cs.jpg

http://www.30937.co.uk/pix/1979OCT09RWBR024cs.jpg

Mike

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Posted by West Coast S on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 6:41 PM
Good Tuesday to one and all...First, left me offer my sincere appreciation upon selection of my nomination in the "name the penguin" contest. <blush><smiley face>

Due to this auspicious occasion, and in honor of our newest critter, rounds are on me until 2400 hrs. EST...It would only be proper to extend the first offer to our barkeep....<yeh>

Tom and BK:

Thank's for the memories, I was born way too late to experience the first Freedom Train, but have many memories of the tour in 1975/76 with 4449, I rode from LA to Oakland in a dome car and the tool car from Oakland to Sacramento on the return trip at the conclusion of the tour...


Tom:

Enjoyed the streaming penguin video, kinda reminds me of my honeymoon!!!!!

Pwolf:

Appreciate the journey on the Great Central, I never cease to be amazed at the positive approach to rail preservation our friends in England display and practice..

Lovedomes:

Great photo Sunday, for my KCS contribution, I offer this tid bit , i've heard rumors that KCS is considering applying the Black/Yellow/Red scheme to a future locomotive order, seems the UP Heritage Fleet concept is gaining ground among other carriers..Time will tell if it is to be be or just a rumor...

Rob:

Boris face down in the penguin chow, why am I not surprised?? With the current critter influx, a drive to solicate donations for a new wing and provide care and feeding my well be in order...I pledge the first thousand dollars towards this goal..If sucessfull and agreeable, we could have a name the critter compound contest!!!

Ok, since we like historical PE facts, check this one out, truly quirky, but orginal...

Baldwin 60 ton steeple cabs, numbers
1598-1599 were assigned to Butte Street yard, one the busiest on the system..In a effort to provide the engineer maxium visibility during switching moves, the bucket seat model was born...Modified in the Torrance Shops, the engineers seat and controls was relocated to outside the cab by four feet, a waist high fairing provided frontal protection after a new suspended floor was grafted to the existing cab substructure. Orginally,no overhead protection was provided due to the mild climate, later canvas sun shades were added... To their credit, PE did a great job in blending the added blister into the existing cab side, though seen from the front, this wing gave an odd, unbalanced appearance to the classic Baldwin lines, but proved 100% effective when in use.

Well, must complete the task at hand, enjoy the rounds..

Dave
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Posted by BudKarr on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 12:55 PM

Good Morning Captain Tom and all assembled!

 

Ruth, please set up the bar with whatever the patrons would like and I will savor just a hot mug of coffee with just a “splash’ to make it interesting. Thumbs Up [tup] On this the 17th month Anniversary of “Our” Place – enjoy a drink on me! Thumbs Up [tup]

Do want to make mention of the recent postings from Pete - Nick - Tom and CM3 - good work, Gentlemen. Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] We await the daily from Lars! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Must say that Captain Tom's submission for the KCS contains some rather good looking livery - had never seen them in operating days - but that color scheme is very eye appealing! Thumbs Up [tup]  Also, do I note the appearance of a characature for Tex the Armadillo Question [?] We are going to have to build an annex just to accommodate the "critters"! <grin>

As a departure from the "theme" for this day (my "assistant" has flown the coop - so to speak - and I am without a "researcher"!!) <grin> Therefore, something a bitt different from my curious side. I have given some thought to the people who have frequented this thread – some before and others during the time I have been a customer. I wonder what the reasons were for their departures. Did they simply lose interest – did other factors override their ability to remain – we shall probably never know in all instances.

 

I took it upon myself to “master” the techniques of using the Kalmbach “search” capability and was able to track down just a few of the guys who at one time or another were referred to as “regulars” at “Our” Place:

 

 

CFournier Chris – remember him? He was “Our” Place’s first customer – first member of the “Order of the Stools - Permanent” – and a most attentive contributor for many months. A recipient of a Birthday Bash and much concern during an illness. Where is he now? Hard to say, however – he was last seen at “Our” Place on Sep 20th, 2005 after a series of lengthy absences.  He has posted 22 times since, on other threads – last on June 15th, 2006.

 

Trainnut484 Russell – remember him? He was a stalwart provider of photos for Sunday along with much information regarding the Santa Fe – a recipient of a Birthday Bash and so forth. A member of the “Order of the Stools” too. Where is he now? Hard to say, however – he was last seen at “Our” Place on April 14th, 2006 after a lengthy absence. He has posted 18 times since, on other threads – last on July 18th, 2006.

 

Gunns Kevin – remember him? He was most times a late night contributor of “hands on” information regarding the refurbishing aspects of real railroading. Also a member of the “Order of the Stools” and a Birthday Bash recipient. Where is he now? Hard to say, however – he was last seen at “Our” Place on April  12th, 2006 (one year Anniversary) after a lengthy absence and has posted 7 times since, on other threads – last on July 29th, 2006.

 

Earlydiesels Dan – remember him? He was a long time customer, member of the “Order of the Stools” and a strong supporter of the bar.  Received a Birthday Bash. He experienced an illness – many of us expressed concern – and where is he now? He was last seen at “Our” Place on April 12th, 2006 (one year Anniversary”) after a lengthy absence and hasn’t been seen since on the forums.

 

Wrwatkins Dick – remember him? He was a long time customer, member of the “Order of the Stools – Permanent” and a frequent contributor, albeit “one way” most of the time. Received a Birthday Bash. Also, Tom visited with him in Dallas for a memorable RDC experience on a grand tour of the rail transportation systems. So, where is he now? He was last seen at “Our” Place on December 24th, 2005 after a lengthy absence and has posted 18 times since, on other threads – last on March 27th, 2006.

 

Passengerfan Al – remember him? He was one of the 1st customers at “Our” Place when it opened, a Permanent member of the “Order of the Stools,” a recipient of a most “unusual” Birthday Bash and perhaps the most prolific contributors this thread or any other has ever seen. It has been several months since he was a “regular” contributor – due to health and computer problems along with other issues. He was last seen for a brief visit at “Our” Place on August 19th and on Tom’s “other thread” the same day and has not been seen since.

 

Theodorebear Ted, remember him? Permanent member of the “Order of the Stools” – staunch supporter of Tom and contributor to“Our” Place.  A Birthday Bash recipient and participant at the 1st Annual “Our” Place Rendezvous in Toronto. So, where is he now? He was last seen at “Our” Place on July 8th, 2006 and has posted once since on another thread on July 15th, 2006.

 

There are many other “names,” but my focus has been on those who were at one time considered as “regulars” and “supporters” of “Our” Place rather than simply occasional visitors.

 

Now, there is absolutely nothing to “make” of all this data, but it is indeed interesting to look at and wonder – why? What happened? Where are these guys who at a point in their cyber lives were very active and very supportive. Now – just memories to a dwindling number who remember “when.”

 

I wish all of the aforementioned best wishes in whatever it is they are doing with their leisure time and in no way am “begging” for their return. That is a personal choice and one that must be respected – no matter how puzzling.

 

 

BK in Alberta, Canada’s beautiful high mountain country!

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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:05 AM

G’day Gents!

 

Happy 17th Month Anniversary to all who give a “Rat’s Patoot” about this bar ‘n grill! Been a long haul to this point – but still more good times than not . . .

 

Set ‘em up, Ruth – drinks on Da Boss – “spiked’ OJ, or whatever flicks their switches! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

 

Having a Dickens of a time with my laptop dropping out of synch with the router. Been on the phone so much lately with “tech support” that we’re on first name basis. Only thing is – I have no clue what his name is – can only understand every third word! Perhaps THAT’s why we can’t get this resolved – wudjathink Question [?] <grin> Dontchajustloveit Question [?]

 

Been a rather looooooooong morning for Moi as my “theme” submission took me over 2 hours just to get it to Post. Had to retype the entire thing – twice – due to some mysterious formatting glitch that kept “previewing” something that looked far different from what I had in my WP. Finally gave up and began again – and again. Oh, for the “good old days” of the former Kalmbach Forums! <groan>

 

Noted the absence of Doug 'n Mike – the former must be working himself into a frazzle and the latter we hope is in good health. Miss both contributors ‘round the Tavern by the Tracks! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Noted some suggestions regarding tweetable offenses (offences) for one – trolleyboy Rob. Well, I’ve submitted them to the “committee” and we’ll see what they come up with. Someone, far wiser than I, mentioned at a staff meeting I was a part of that “a committee can lay claim to fame for studying a horse – only to come with findings that it was indeed a camel.” Humor in there somewhere, eh Question [?] Anyway, Rob – you may be in serious “doo doo” with the guys here at the bar for your “alleged” transgressions . . . . Ain’t the first time – and surely won’t the be last, I presume! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

 

Want to make special mention of our friend pwolfe Pete and his unwavering support of our bar ‘n grill. Not only willing to spring for the drinks, but have you ever noticed him turning down any “freebies” Question [?] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Anyway, Pete’s contributions are most appreciated and what is especially rewarding is that he reads what is Posted and responds in kind! Now that’s the way we all should do it. There aren’t that many Posts to cull through these days – so c’mon – interactive is the word! Along with several others that come to mind! <grin>

 

A lengthy visit from Nick along with all kinds of prophetic outpourings. Always good to see our former Chief Chef  Chef [C=:-)] back on his stool and of course, in the kitchen. Once he gives us the word – we’ll restore him to his “lofty” status amongst the crew and staff in the Saloon by the Siding.

 

Many thanx to Lars for keeping things moving yesterday along with BK 'n CM3. Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Really kinda strange without our friend Doug providing the early morning wake up calls.

 

Appreciate seeing CM3 kick off the “theme for the day” – as I was mired down in my ‘puter saga.  Always good stuff from our WVA connection. Must make mention that there must be a “bunch” of his who have “ties” to the old NY Giants football teams. Oh do I remember the games at the old Polo Grounds. Used to sit in the end zone for $2 a seat if I recall – perhaps even less. That was in the early 50s – saw many NFL great players – Otto Graham of the Browns was my favorite. Don’t have a clue why I liked them – but they had some great players as well – remember Lou “the toe” Groza Question [?] How is this “classic trains” related Question [?] Hmmmmmmmm – used to take the subway up from South Station – that has to count for something! Far in those days I believe was 7 cents for a subway token – 5 cents for the Staten Island Ferry and another 7 cents for the bus to get my friend and I to the ferry. One could easily see how just a few bucks could sustain for the day . . .

 

Gotta head out – petrol is now $2.25 (rounded) and have to fill up the gas cans for my never ending lawn care chores. I’m one of a very few who still takes care of their own property. Oh the laziness of this society never ceases to make me want to head for the lee side! <groan>

 

Boris, ring the bell - round #2! Thumbs Up [tup] And who let those critters loose Question [?]

 

 

 

 

 

Later!

 

 

Tom

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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 9:08 AM

Now arriving on track #1

RR Theme for the Day - Number Four

 

 

Used with permission from: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Formatting differences made necessary due to Forums requirements. Some heralds and images from other sources.

 

Kansas City Southern (KCS)

 

 

Southern Belle Passenger Train

 

KCS ad (from: KCS Historical Society)

 

Powered by an EMD E3 locomotive, Kansas City Southern Railway tain No. 1, the Southern Belle, passes through Kansas City, Missouri on August 17, 1940.

 

 

“Drumhad” logos such as these often adorned the ends of observation cars on the Southern Belle.

 

The Southern Belle was a named passenger train service offered by Kansas City Southern Railway (KCS) form the 1940s through the 1960s, running between Kansas City, Missouri and New Orleans, Louisiana.

 

The service was inaugurated on September 2, 1940. To promote the new train, KCS held a beauty contest to find “Miss Southern Belle,” a young woman whose image would be used in advertising materials systemwide. Local competitions were held before the train’s launch in all of the cities that the KCS served. The ultimate winner of the competition, Margaret Landry Moore, was the winner of the local competition in Baton Route, Louisiana. She was selected as “Miss Southern Belle” at the final competition in New Oleans, Louisiana, on August 24, 1940.

 

The last run of the Southern Belle was on November 2, 1969.

 

 

Equipment used

 

Just before inauguration, Pullman-Standard delivered three new lighteight passenger car sets to the KCS for use on the Southern Belle. Each set consisted of a combination baggage-RPO-dormitory (car numbers 64, 65 and 66), a 74-seat coach chair car (cars 234, Pittsburg, 235, Joplin, and 236, Texarkana), and a dining-observation car (car numbers 54, Kansas City, 55, Shreveport, and 56, New Orleans).

 

The KCS rebuilt five heavyweight Pullman sleepers for use on the Southern Belle, making them look like their lightweight counterparts and increasing the number of double bedrooms in each., Cars Siloam Springs (formerly McBurny) and Sulphur Springs (formerly McLarty) were rebuilt in time for the train’s inauguration. Initially, Pullman service was only offered between New Orleans and Shreveport, Louisiana. In 1941, car Barksdale (formerly McAllisterville) was added to the train’s operation when Pullman service was extended from Shreveport to Kansas City. The first two rebuilt cars were joined a few months later by rebuilt cars State Capital (formerly McElheran) and Mena (formerly McKullo) on the southern leg of the train’s schedule.

 

After World War II, the train was re-equipped with some new cars built in 1948 by American Car and Foundry (ACF), and by rebuilding some of the original Pullman-Standard cars. Two of the diner-observation cars were rebuilt into tavern-obsesrvation cars, car 54, Kansas City (renamed to Good Cheer), and 55, Shreveport (renamed Hospitality), remained in Southern Belle service. The new cars built by ACF equipped two new consists. Each of the new consists included:                     

 

. . . . . one combination baggage-RPO-dormintory (car #67 and 68)

. . . . . one 62-seat coach chair car (car #239, Kansas City, and #240, Texarkana)

. . . . . two 60-seat coach chair cars (car #241, Shreveport, #242, Alexandria, #243,

. . . . . Baton Rouge, and #244, New Orleans)

. . . . . one 36-seat diner (car #57, Old Plantation, and #58, Mountain Home)

. . . . . four 14 roomette, 4-double bedroom sleepers (cars Arthur Stilwell, Colonel

. . . . . Fordyce, Harvey Couch, Job Edson, Leonor Loree, Stuart Knott, William

. . . . . Buchanan and William Edenborn) 

 

 

The previously-mentioned tavern-observatoin cars rounded out the ends of the two consists. Between 1962 and 1964, these cars were renumbered and the car names were dropped. The train’s consists remained relatively unchanged between 1948 and the train’s discontinuance in 1969.

 

KCS EMD FP9A #2 eastbound near Jackson, MS (foto credit: Kip Brewer)

 

 

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Posted by coalminer3 on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 8:48 AM

Good Morning Barkeep and All Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.

Nick - Thanks for the information re the Vulcan.  I had (still have) a fiar amount of Dinky Toy military vehicles such as trucks, etc. 

Today is devoted to Kansas City Southern.  So we'll get things started.

Bar Service in Missouri and Louisiana – Kansas City Southern’s Passenger Service in 1962.

 

“Here at Kansas City Southern we fell that we have an obligation to [provide good and ample passenger service to the people of our area. Yet we have reduced the number of our passenger trains since the peak war years – but only after convincing (and costly) proof that you, our patrons, no longer considered the service necessary.

 

We have no intention of going out of the passenger business.  Rather, we hope to improve our service so that you and others may have the benefit of the safest, most enjoyable, most economical way to travel.”

 

W.N. Deramus, III, President, Kansas City Southern Lines.

 

The Kansas City Southern had several passenger trains operating in December, 1962.   The schedules were arranged to provide overnight and daylight service between various points on the KCS.

 

Trains 1 and 2 the “Southern Belle,” ran between Kansas City and New Orleans.

 

Train 1 departed Kansas City at 9:25 a.m. with a 6:05 a.m. next morning arrival in New Orleans.

 

Train 2 departed New Orleans at 10:00 p.m. and arrived in Kansas City at 7:45 p.m. the next evening. 

 

The “Southern Belle” carried chair cars between Kansas City and New Orleans; a diner lounge between Kansas City and New Orleans (bar service in Missouri and Louisiana) and 14 rtte/4db sleepers between Kansas City and New Orleans.  The sleepers could be occupied until 7:00 a.m. in New Orleans.

 

Trains 15-9 and 10-16 offered service between Kansas City and New Orleans; the trains split at Shreveport.  Trains 9 and 10 operated between Shreveport and New Orleans and trains 15 and 16 ran between Shreveport and Port Arthur.

 

15-9 left Kansas City at 10:15 p.m. and arrived in Shreveport at 12:20 p.m. the following afternoon.  Train 9 departed Shreveport at 12:50 p.m. with a 7:55 p.m. New Orleans arrival.  Train 15 departed Shreveport at 12:55 p.m. and arrived in Port Arthur at 6:35 p.m.

 

Train 10 departed New Orleans at 9:45 a.m., and arrived in Shreveport at 4:30 p.m.  Train 16, meanwhile, left Port Arthur at 11:00 a.m., arriving in Shreveport at 4:40 p.m.  The two trains were combined and departed Shreveport at 5:20 p.m., arriving in Kansas City at 7:00 the next morning.

 

Trains 15-9 and 10-16 handled chair cars between Kansas City and New Orleans, and 14 rette/4 db sleepers between Kansas City and Shreveport.  A Kansas City-New Orleans snack-lounge-observation car (bar service in Missouri and Louisiana) filled out the consist.  Trains 9 and 10 carried chair cars between Shreveport and Port Arthur and a snack-lounge-observation car (bar service in Missouri and Louisiana) between Shreveport and Port Arthur.

 

KCS heavily advertised their passenger service.  Here are some ads from 1962.

 

You’ll like the privacy of a roomette.

 

A roomette is a self-contained unit, providing space to lounge by day and sleep at night in complete privacy.  The roomy bed pulls down from the wall when you are ready to retire.  Other features include a wash basin, concealed toilet, mirrors, space for your clothes and luggage, even mechanically cooled drinking water – all for your exclusive use.  Air-conditioning and temperature can be adjusted to your taste.

 

Dine While You Ride

 

There is something unforgettable about dining on a railroad train...while town after town and mile after mile of scenery flash by the window.  Many travelers say ‘it’s the highlight of the trip,’ and look forward to it with keen anticipation.

 

It will be a pleasure to have you dine with us when you travel on the KCS.  And you’ll find that the thoughtful and courteous attention of our waiters, and the skill of our chefs combine to make your meal a memorable one.

 

Dining while you ride...while the South goes by the window...is a pleasant, never-to-be –forgotten experience.

 

Our prices are moderate – as example, try our ‘Chef’s Special’ at $1.35.

 

Now for answers to yesterday’s quiz.

 

The following trunk lines served Kansas City

Santa Fe

Burlington

Chicago and Northwestern

Milwaukee Road

Rock Island

Frisco

GM&O

KCS

M-K-T

N&W (Wabash)

MP

UP

 

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Posted by nickinwestwales on Monday, September 11, 2006 9:17 PM

Well good evening gentlemen all,the usual round for the house and I think perhaps we should break out the special reserve rum for a toast to those of the New York emergency services who,when every right thinking person was getting as far away as possible,rolled up their sleeves and walked right into the holocaust to try and make things better & save some lives-Gentlemen-your actions on that day defined courage &self sacrifice for future generations,we salute you..........

Right,I`ve been away for a few days so will indulge in a little cherry-picking here in order not to waffle on endlessly:-

CM3-Indeed,Dinky`s are still very collectable over here-especially with original boxes.

I believe the most sought-after is the limited edition of Her Majestys Coronation coach and horses from 1953.   Your mention of the Vulcan bomber reminds me,one has just been secured financially for restoration to full flying trim-the forerunner of the Concord,that most graceful of airplanes and a magnificent machine in it`s own right

Captain [4:-)]Pirate [oX)]TOM-A fine selection of pix,the Forth bridge is without doubt my favourite water crossing-to be sitting on the left side of the first Dundee-Edinburgh train of the day,as the sun comes up from out of the sea whilst crossing from Fife into Lothian is a truly magical experience.

Now-the Lethbridge viaduct, that looks like one very `spindly` structure by comparison...I`m sure it`s not so but even so..

Some extra detail on the first `Eurostar` pic-the camera is facing south (note the boards in the foreground marked DN-down I.E away from London,note also in the background a 3rd rail multiple unit,apparently wearing `Network South East` colours-the predecessor to the Connex franchise(although they have since been bounced out for failure to meet targets)-most of my earliest rail journeys started & ended on these units.

Also ,fine pix of the `Big Steam`-my earliest memories of American trains are of pix of C.N `Zebra` F units,Camelbacks and those bullet-nose Hudsons with their improbably huge coupling rods & bosses-all from one of those `world of trains `books gifted by an elderly aunt-a marvellous reminder,thank you Thumbs Up [tup]

PETE-I envy you that Scots steam railtour -mark me in for the west coast tour if it happensBig Smile [:D]-love those Irish shots-the first one demands a caption:-

Paddy (somewhat anxiously) "Jaysus,are ye after breaking it altogether ?"

Eamonn(somewhat muffled by machinery) "Ah sure and she`ll be grand,it`s just a wee tap she`s needing"

The Forest of Dean Loco has the look of a J94 `Austerity` about it......

The Bo`ness Std tank looks like the one Wrenn marketed in Caley colours back in the early `70`s.

The `45 reeks of brute power,the Duchess looks sublime---nice one mateThumbs Up [tup]Big Smile [:D]Thumbs Up [tup] 

BK-nice pix of the Super Continental for ROB`S birthday-now can anyone fill in a detail for me-which came first ?-the zebra stripe with the red nose angled back and the stripes facing backwards on both sides (as in the pics) or the version with the red nose finishing vertically and the stripes leaning left on both sides....?

Also nice R.D.C &Turbo pixThumbs Up [tup]

DOUG-Interesting stuff on the Airline that never was,loved the engineer gags( I Have a similar collection of musician ones,courtesy of Sir Theodore)-as a barman myself I was delighted with the `etiquette for stewards`segment.    If I tried that in the bars I work in the consequences would most likely make the national news.

The house is looking good by the way,interesting to see timber used as a principal building material-you would never get insurance on it over here-diff`rent strokes I guess

LARS-nice pix of those FP9`s complete with `winterisation` hatches-dinner party a success despite the guests(you know how it is )all china safely returned to cupboards,nice one also with the R.D.C & `big steam`shots-lovely stuff,although the mental image of Boris in waiters outfit is sufficient to take the shine off the day,any dayConfused [%-)]

By the way-liked the `cracked bell` image-very appropriate to the day.....

MIKE-an excellent selection of URL`s,not only for the trains and planes(some beauties there) but also the people and places-a vanished way of life caught on camera-thanks for that,nice one mateThumbs Up [tup]

DAVE-Apologies for the noises from the freezer,it will take me a while to re-establish some degree of order `back of house`-Hope your time`on base` was at least useful-thanx also for the P.E stuff-appealed to my fondness for the off-beat & obscureMischief [:-,]

O.K. guys,I think thats everyone caught up with-My sincerest apologies to anybody I may have overlooked.

A last thought for the day (and I think this calls for another round of the special reserve rum)--whilst the events of 5 years ago were without doubt tragic, a similar number of children,around the world ,die every month due to entirely preventable causes such as disease & starvation......................................................................

take care folks,speak soon,

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Posted by pwolfe on Monday, September 11, 2006 4:37 PM

Hi Tom and all

TOM A fine tribute on this poignant day. For our generation one will never forget where one was and what was doing when the tragic news came through. Many thanks for the link to The Freedom Train site,a wonderful site which is very well worth studying, I was not expecting the song  by Bing and The Andrews Sisters as I had left the speakers on.Many thanks as well BK for the 1976 Freedom Train hauled by that great SP loco.

I was forgetting my manners so a Bathams for me and a round please to wet the new mascot FROSTBITES naming, a good selection.Thumbs Up [tup].

LARS Glad you liked the pics, Alan has supplied me with the details, I have now got the details of the German ones so I will be able to show them. I noticed in the picture of the tank loco #80105,which enlarged larger on the forum than in my album,that a selection of diesel locos are in the background.

CM3 YES the Duchess is one fine loco. TheDuchesses or SEMIs as we call them hauled the top expresses through my home town before being displaced by diesels and electrics in the sixties finally bowing out in 1964. There are 3 preserved. One, City Of Birmingham  was preserved  direct to a museum in its namesake town and is in the same condition it left Crewe Works after being re-painted and has never steamed.The other two, #46229 Duchess of Hamilton and #6233 were bought by Butlins who exhibited them at Holiday Camps they ran. 46229 visited the United States in 1939 in its streamlined form, acting as the first member of the class # 46220 Coronation.

For more info on this loco I thought this is a great web site.

http://www.vintagetrains.co.uk/tlw_46229.htm.

# 46229 is being fitted with a Streamlined casing again although it wont be able to steam. 6233 is a regular performer on the main line today putting up some very fine performances. I recall a trip in the 80s with ' Hamilton' with a standing start at High Wycombe to the top of  Sapperton Bank producing a horsepower equalling a record for steam traction in the UK, the sound was fantastic.

Can I Have a go at your quizQuestion [?]. 12 lines serving Kansas City.

Atchison Topeka & Santa Fe.

Chicago Burlington & Quincy.

Chicago Rock Island& Pacific

Chicago Great Western

Frisco

Illinois Central

Kansas City Southern

Missouri & Northern Arkansas

Missouri-Kansas-Texas

Missouri Pacific.

Union Pacific

Wabash

Wow!! [wow] I need another pint after that, Look forward to the answers.

`LARS just caught your latest post and I will have a drink with you, if I may. I do hope too that others will read the fine tributes by BK and TOM.

Pete.

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Posted by LoveDomes on Monday, September 11, 2006 4:22 PM

G'day Captain Tom and fellow travelers at the bar!

Ruth, I'll take a mug of Schaefer and some snacks . . .

Wow!! [wow] What a wonderful tribute put forth by Tom 'n BK on this 911 - outstanding, Gents! A five-Thumbs Up [tup] to the both of you! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Only "downside" is that it appears only CM3 I'm not Shane! viewed them - until I came along, that is! <groan. A far cry from the "old days", huh Question [?]

Have been away from the homestead for most of the day - doctors office - hospital room - it never ends. Aging is not a process that is kind to and for many. Let's just leave it at that . . .

I have managed to scout around and come up with something appropriate for our "theme" day - and aside from posting URLs - there are not too many KCS pix out there without copyrights and other caveats against further use. Makes me really laugh - why in the world put this stuff on the web - in cyber space no less - and then "expect" one and all to "honor" the proprietory nature of them. I suppose this is what makes the law profession so "necessary" in our society!

Pardon me if I seem to have run out of things to say - but it really has to do more with what this day represents than anything else. So, let me simply wish you all a good evening - and hope to see some activity here tomorrow - our 17th month anniversary of the bar!

Ruth, drinks on me - if you please! Thumbs Up [tup] Boris - do your thing! No - not THAT - ring the bell! <geesh>

Until the next time! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

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Posted by coalminer3 on Monday, September 11, 2006 11:59 AM

Good afternoon Barkeep and All Present; round for the house.

Well done, one and all.

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Posted by BudKarr on Monday, September 11, 2006 11:50 AM

Good Morning Captain Tom and all assembled!

Ruth, a round for the Gentlemen and I will have a #3 from the menu board, a hot mug of coffee with just a "splash" to make it interesting, and one or two pastries from the Mentor Village Bakery case. Thank you!

Most interesting photos yesterday, well summarized by those before me. With Tom - Doug - Lars and Pete keeping things active, it certainly appears that the Sunday Photo Posting Day! idea is alive and well - good show! Thumbs Up [tup] I still am quite uncomfortable with not being able to fully participate in the spirit of it all - for I have no photo archives of my own to draw from. Personally, I grow weary pouring through the Urls, especially when they are so numerous - I much prefer a half dozen or so of photos per submission. Makes it much more tolerable for "we cheerleaders." Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

What a laugh we engaged in over that Penguin "splash" photo! Very good, very funny and very appropriately done, Tom! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Wholeheartedly concur with the selection made for the name of the Penguin mascot - Frostbite certainly topped them all. Congratulations to the California Coaster - Dave! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Lydia asked me if I could name the mascots of "Our" Place - I thought I could, but failed miserably! Where WERE you, Lars, when I needed you the most Question [?] You did not provide your Encore of the essentials of the bar on Saturday! Get this - she named them all - Juneau (Tom's Husky) - Awk the Parrot - Tex the Armadillo and Frostbite the Penguin! Wow!! [wow]

A fine photo spread from our leader on this day of remembrance for many in the free world. Nicely done and most appropriate. As a person with dual citizenship, there is absolutely no question with regard to where my allegiance lies when it comes to the defense of EITHER country against the hordes amassing at the gates of freedom. Sorry if that sounds somewhat melodramatic - however, these are serious times, indeed, and when lives are being lost, or otherwise shattered - how can any of us not think of what is going on in this sorry world Question [?]

Thank you also for the Freedom Train photos and URL. That provided me with some motivation to emulate what you have done. Correctly stated - I ":turned my assistant" loose and she came up with some fine photos as well! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Caveat: These photos are from http://www.trainweb.org/screamingeagle/gallery/aft.html with proper credit given to the respective photographers.

USA/SP #4449 in Oregon, 2002 - (photo: Gordon Hall)


 

USA/SP #4449 in Bend, Oregon (photo: Rick Weil - 2002)

 

 

USA/SP #4449 in Oregon, 2002 - (photo: Gordon Hall)

 

 

USA/SP #4449 in Oregon, 2002 - (photo: Gordon Hall)

 

 

USA/SP #4449 in Oregon, 2002 - (photo: Gordon Hall)

 

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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, September 11, 2006 10:39 AM

G'day Gents!

Ruth, set 'em up with whatever they'd like - Boris ring the bell, and let's settle in for some introspective thinking on this September 11th . . . .

1947--Freedom Train--1949
126 Historic Freedom Documents
American Heritage Foundation

The Freedom Train was on Tour for 413 days,
visited 322 Comunities in all 48 States and traveled
over 37,000 miles during its historic Journey.

Over 3.5 Million Visitors toured
the Freedom Train with one in every 500,000
receiving a special gift. Each visitor signed the
"Freedom Scroll," which was presented to
 President Harry S. Truman.

 

(Click to enlarge)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Note: All images and relevant information obtained from http://www.lincoln-highway-museum.org/FT/FT-Index.html. There is no intent to misuse, profit or otherwise denegrate the use of these materials.

 

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

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Posted by coalminer3 on Monday, September 11, 2006 8:30 AM

Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.  Why is Boris face-down in a 100 lb. bag of penguin chow?  A nice addition to the collection and I'm sure he'll enjoy "Hockey Night in Mentor" broadcasts during the NHL season.

 

Let's begin today with a toast to absent friends.

 

My Giants beat themselves – gonna be a long season, guys.  See where Lars had something to say about this as well.  I remember the Giants-Colts game you mentioned.  Long b4 there was a team in New England.  Black and white TV, too.  !@#$ Alan Ameche!

 

Many interesting posts. 

 

Tom provided steam [picture, movie material (Hitchcock, a western, and stooges) – something for everybody.  Then we went for a ride on the Eurostar.  And today something to help us remember - many thanks.

 

Pete – The Duchess of Sutherland – hot damn!  And other steam shots as well.

 

Lars – An eclectic selection of pictures to enlarge and study.

 

Barndad – Most of my humble example of coal camp architecture looked that way this summer; only it was on the inside including a bathtub in the kitchen.  The K9 Korps thought it was wonderful as they could beg for lunch from a variety of folks who were doing different things.  Then we had trains and planes as well. I have lot of Pullman manuals, etc. in the stack of stuff and always liked, “Present the bottle to the passenger.”  Did you know that Pullman beer service required two kinds of glasses?  No, Boris, not for juggling! 

 

Dave – I learned something new from the PE item you sent – thank you!  PE (in general)  is one operation I wish I could have seen.

 

BK – Social commentary and jet-powered Budds.

 

Since we will be doing Kansas City Southern, here’s a brain buster to get you warmed up. 

 

In the late 1960s, twelve (12) trunk line railroads served Kansas City, Mo. Name them – answers tomorrow.

 

Here’s a little advertising copy for L&N Tote service.  Note the former passenger train name

 

Day or Night

 

Departures With L&N’s two all-piggyback Dixie Flyers Between Midwest and South.

 

Ship With a Piggyback Leader Between Chicago, St. Louis, Cincinnati and Atlanta, Tampa, Jacksonville and Miami.

 

Paved, fenced, and lighted facilities are provided at Atlanta, Birmingham, Louisville, Memphis, Nashville, and New Orleans.

 

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Posted by LoveDomes on Monday, September 11, 2006 8:14 AM

G’day Captain Tom and fellow travelers at the bar!


Looks like our Proprietor beat me to the punch – and here I thought I’d get an early start! <grin>


Monday it is and how appropriate those lyrics are from that great Mamas and Papas song. Seems like only yesterday when that song was on the “charts.” Thumbs Up [tup]


Giants lost their opener over at the Meadowlands. The Colts are still remembered by many of us for that great NFL Championship game up at Yankee Stadium in December, 1958 - so many years back – before the AFL – before Super Bowls – a “classic” by any other name. Colts won 23-17. So, now they are the Indianapolis Colts and still have a “thing” going when playing my Giants. Thumbs Down [tdn]


Pete, that was quite a spate of pix you provided for us and the explanations always make them so much more meaningful. Thanks for the extra-effort, mate! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]


Tom, you have done it again with that great penguin “funny”!! Really got a chuckle out of the Mrs. too – something she’d do – to ME! <grin> Anyway, glad to see that Left Coast Dave’s submission wound up as the winnAH – a most appropriate name – Frostbite! Thumbs Up [tup]


As many of you can well imagine, it is a somber day in many places, but my guess is that for those of us in New York City, the Pentagon, and that farmer’s field in Pennsylvania – the memories run very long and deep. Nice graphic from you, Tom – pretty much sums it all up! Thumbs Up [tup]




Boris – I’ll have one more of those OJs that Tom is known for – then I’ll head off to tackle the chores of the day!


Until the next time! Thumbs Up [tup]
 

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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, September 11, 2006 7:40 AM

G'day Gents!

Monday, Monday, can't trust that day
Monday, Monday, it just turns out that way
Oh Monday, Monday, won't go away
Monday, Monday, it's here to stay
The Mamas and the Papas

The weekend is a memory, but there's always another to look forward to, eh Question [?]

In spite of our Sunday Photo Posting Days being far less participated in than in past months, there were some interesting Pix provided for one and all - so check 'em out and let's get some dialogue generated 'round here! Thumbs Up [tup] Thanx to Doug, Lars 'n Pete for the contributions! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

A very dark and stormy morning here in mid-continent USA as the thunder storms are rolling through the area. We can certainly use the rain and along with it, some lower temperatures - which probably means I will be "retiring" the summer clothes before too long. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Weekly Calendar: 

Tuesday: RR Theme for the Day! - Kansas City Southern (KCS)

Wednesday: Toy ‘n Model Trains Day! - Optional

Thursday: Fish ‘n Chips Nite!

Friday: Pizza Nite! & Steak Nite!

Saturday: Steak ‘n Trimmin’s Nite! – and –

ENCORE! Saturday

 

Boris, ring the bell and serve 'em up all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!

 

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

 

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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, September 11, 2006 7:12 AM

Okay Gents, the time has come for the selection we have been waiting for in the "Name the Penguin Contest!"

 

 

The submissions:

 

Pengie (from Lars)

Chester (from Nick)

Willie (from Rob)

Phil (from BK 'n Lydia)

Pudgie (from Doug)

Percy or Chilly (from Pete)

Frostbite (from Dave)

 

and the winner is:

 

Dave from the Left Coast with his offering of Frostbite! Thumbs Up [tup] Wow!! [wow] Yeah!! [yeah]

 

and this just in from Antarctica . . . "Mom 'n Pop" are sooooooo pleased! That's "Pop" being pushed into the drink . . . Shock [:O]

 

Thanx to all who participated - getting 7 out of the small number of customers we have 'round here is outstanding! Thumbs Up [tup] Much appreciated . . .

 

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

 

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Posted by pwolfe on Sunday, September 10, 2006 6:48 PM

Hi Tom and all.

Part two of Alan's pics

These first two are at the Great Central Railway at Loughbourgh, Leicestershire.


Standard 2-6-4 tank # 80105, this loco was rescued from Barry Scrapyard and is based at the Bo'neess railway in Scotland.

 

Class 45 1CO-CO1 diesel-electric #D123 it carries the name Leicester and Derbyshire Yeomanry, although another loco carried this name in British Railway days.

Two pics of a railtrip I was on of June 17th hauled by the pride of the LMS  Princess Coronation Pacific # 46229 Duchess Of Sutherland. This was part of a batch of 5 locos that were not streamlined.

At Crewe station at the start of the trip.


 At Carlisle. The Royal Scot headboard is the one of this design that was used on the train in Scotland. The one used in England had a red background.

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Posted by pwolfe on Sunday, September 10, 2006 5:22 PM

Hi Tom and all. It seems as though I have missed brunch so I will pop this in the mail slot.

DOUG Good part two of the Air-Line and loved the engineer itemThumbs Up [tup] .

MIKE  I am sure ROB will enjoy the Canadian links with the trolleys old steam scenes and the great photos of the RCAF aircraft and crews.

Enjoyed the Encores yesterday with DOUG's from the other thread, TOM's Eurostar, not long now untill the new Channel Tunnel Rail Link is opened in the UK. LARS and BK swapping swapping original posts for their encores. The RDC post is well worth reading again.

Then DAVE was in with the two early gas-electrics 5010 & 5011 converted for use on the PE. Frostbite is a good name for the new mascot.

DOUG Good to see the house coming alongThumbs Up [tup], and great pics of Woodstock depot. Is it in use as a cafe now,  and are there many trains that run through thereQuestion [?].

TOM Good pics again this week at the EmporiumThumbs Up [tup]  The '39 version of the 39 Steps is a great movie altough for the Forth Bridge scenes I think the '59 is better, (more loco shots). OK Corrall is a classic Western, great theme music, and the Stooges as wellApprove [^].Certainly Streamlining suited some classes of loco better than others, although it is great to see photos of them. The Pennsy Q1 is a fascinating loco, with what must be one of the largest tenders ever builtWow!! [wow].Then LARS good set of photos of the conventional locos, and the streamlined magnificent N&W class J.

For my pics this week I have some from Ireland and England.

Two pics of the J15 0-6-0  for those who enjoyed this great loco. This time at THURLES Ireland

These next two are at the Forest Of Dean Railway in Gloucestershire to the North East of Bristol. Taken on the May 20th this year, a day after the extension of the line to Parkend, where the photos were taken, was officially re-opened. The line used to serve numerous small colleries in the Forest of Dean. The loco is an industrial 0-6-0 Saddle Tank JESSIE. This loco is based at the Llangollen railway in Wales.



I will post a couple more pics a bit later.

Pete.

     

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Posted by LoveDomes on Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:01 AM

G'day again!

As promised - Captain Tom - here's my humble submission for this Sunday pix posting day!

 

[Of course - "click" to enlarge]

PRR dual K4s (1946) (from: www.yesteryeardepot.com) (photo: Fred C. Stoes)

 

 

B&O EM1 2-8-8-4 (courtesy: Cincinnati Railroad Club collection)

 

 

IC 2-8-2 #1784 (from: www.yesteryeardepot.com)

(Photo: Paul Stringham)

 

 

MP #5308 4-8-2 (from: www.yesteryeardepot.com)

(photo: Paul Eilenberger)

 

 

Southern #1401 at the Smithsonian

 

N&W #611 4-8-4 Class J (credit unidentified)

 

Until the next time! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

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Posted by LoveDomes on Sunday, September 10, 2006 10:53 AM

G'day Captain Tom and fellow travelers waiting for the bar to open!

Well, geesh - at least enjoy the buffet tables - so the bar is closed - what's wrong with some great chow, bakery goods from the Mentor Village Bakery, freshly ground 'n brewed coffee - all served by Boris - in our most congenial atmosphere Question [?] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Thanks for this week's movie slate over the Emporium Theatre, Captain Tom! You put a lot into ensuring that these ads get posted each Sunday. I appreciate them! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Something that adds postively to the "flavor" of this fine establishment - and something that I hope isn't being taken for granted or worse yet - totally ignored. I see you "honored" the request of CM3 I'm Not Shane! for the flick he asked for - "The 39 Steps" - it's a goodie, typically Hitchcock and worth seeing (again). Should be some good shots of the Forth Bridge . . . As for the "Gunfight at the OK Corral" - well what's to say about that one Question [?] A classic if there ever was one - great selections! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom - Liked those shrouded steam loco's for this morning's "classic trains" offering. Really nice and great to see that you're "back" for Sunday's pix posting day!

Equally happy to see Doug up 'n about the decks, but concerned that all work and no play may adversely impact our friend from Chicagoland. Surely hope there is a light at the end of the tunnel for you. Looks like your house is coming along nicely - even though it's not a "classic trains" house! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Enjoyed the spread! Thumbs Up [tup] including the "funny"!

Tonight is the "big football game" over at the Meadowlands as the "brother quarterbacks" square off. Way too much hype about that in my not-so-humble-opinion. I'm really "read for some football" and am looking forward to my Sunday's in front of the "boob tube" for the next 17 weeks plus playoffs and Super Bowl! <yikes> <double yikes>

I'm going to scrounge about to see what I can come up with for some pix for whoever is taking all of this in. Then - I'm gone for the day.

Enjoy the buffet and doesn't Boris look splendid in his waiter's attire Question [?] <ooooooooooh>

Be back in a bit . . .

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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, September 10, 2006 10:16 AM

Even though the bar at ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s  - We do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!

 

 

Also - don't forget to join us for Sunday breakfast - brunch - lunch! (ends at 2 PM)

 

And now for something a little different - either love 'em or hate 'em . . . but they are "classics" all!

 

N&W Class J 4-8-4 #611 (public domain)

 

NYC Hudson 4-6-4 (public domain)

 

PRR Q1 #6130 4-6-4-4 (1948) (fair use)

 

PRR S1 6-4-4-6 (1939) (public domain)

 

MS&P Atlantic Class A #2 4-4-2 (1935) (fair use)

 

CPR 4-6-4 #2860 Royal Hudson (foto credit: Greg Chadwick)

 

GTW 4-8-4 U-4-B (foto credit: Richard Leonard)

 

Enjoy! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:43 AM

Good morning guys! Forgive me for eating already, but I had to run out and take some pictures so I would have something to post for ya’ll. Nice Eurostar encore yesterday Tom. Really slick looking train. I see Lars continues to bribe the boss with RDC material … to get more free drinks? Great to see BK pop in, and can I get that jet-powered RDC in a model? Friend Dave also managed to make an appearance, and give us material on Gasoline Gus. Love that PE line. I also want to compliment Dave on his choice of name for our penguin. I vote for “Frostbite.”

And now, here are some pix, starting with the home I’m building in Woodstock.

They started to put windows in, but wouldn’t you know, some were the wrong size, and not all windows were even there.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c330/Barndad/stuff/Picture753-1.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c330/Barndad/stuff/Picture754-1.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c330/Barndad/stuff/Picture789.jpg

Can you see that this window is actually upside-down? They fixed it.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c330/Barndad/stuff/Picture791.jpg

Here’s the house as it looks this morning … getting rained on again

Let’s move away from the construction site. Here an old gas station

Now look what’s to the left of the station

This is now the UP tunnel, built in 1887

Woodstock station

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c330/Barndad/stuff/Picture801.jpg

Inside the station …interesting stuff

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c330/Barndad/stuff/Picture811.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c330/Barndad/stuff/Picture760.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c330/Barndad/stuff/Picture759.jpg

And that’s it for now. I worked 7 hours at part-time job yesterday, and am scheduled to work another 5 today, so this may be my one and only post. We shall see!

 

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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:13 AM

Even though the bar at ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s

We do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!

 

NOW PLAYING at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!

 

. . . Sunday, September 10th thru 16th: Thirty Nine Steps (1935) Starrring: Robert Donat, Madeleine Carroll & Lucie Mannheim – and – Gunfight at the O.K. Corral (1957) Starring: Burt Lancaster, Kirk Douglas & Rhonda Fleming. SHORT: The Three Stooges -  Dumb Clucks (1937)

 

 

The 39 Steps (1935)

 

PLOT SUMMARY: This classic British thriller was one of Alfred Hitchcock's first major international successes, and it introduced a number of the stylistic and thematic elements that became hallmarks of his later work. Richard Hannay (Robert Donat), a Canadian rancher on vacation in England, attends a music hall performance by "Mr. Memory" (Wylie Watson); in the midst of the show, shots ring out and Richard flees the theater. Moments later, a terrified woman (Lucie Mannheim) begs Richard to help her; back at his room, she tells him that she's a British spy whose life has been threatened by international agents waiting outside. Richard is certain that she's mad until she reappears at his door in the morning, near death with a knife in her back, a map in her hand, and muttering something about "39 Steps." Discovering that a group of thugs are indeed waiting outside, Richard slips away and takes the first train to the Scottish town on the dead woman's map. Richard learns that he's now wanted by the police for murder, and he must find a way to clear his name. He begins trying to do so with the help of a woman he meets en route, Pamela (Madeleine Carroll), who serves as his unwitting assistant, even after she tries to turn him in. The 39 Steps was later remade in 1959 and 1978 -- both without Hitchcock's participation.

 

from: NY Times movie review

 

 

 

Gunfight at the O.K. Corral (1957)

 

PLOT SUMMARY: After the long career of lawman that made him a legend, Wyatt Earp deciedes to quit and join his brothers in Tombstone, Arizona. There he would see them in feud with Clantons, local clan of thugs and cattle thieves. When the showdown becomes inevitable, the help will come from Doc Holliday, terminally-ill gambler who happens to be another Wild West legend.

 

from: www.imdb.com

 

 

SHORT: Dumb Clucks (1937)

 

PLOT SUMMARY: Featuring Moe, Larry and Curly

The Stooges are in jail when they learn that their father, Popsie-Wopsie (also played by Curly), is about to marry a gold-digger named Daisy. The Stooges break out to stop the wedding, and Daisy mistakes Curly for Popsie after he shaves his sideburns. Daisy and two other crooks named Butch and Chopper are going to kill Popsie after the wedding, but luckily the Stooges escape, and return Popsie to the waiting arms of Momma.

 

from: www.threestooges.net

 

Enjoy!Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

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