Dave-just caught your post. Interesting update on your investigations into the Moneta yard. Neat little sanpshot of what was and what is.Always intersting to note how important many former traction continued to be of use and indeed were exopanded to serve the needs of their easrtwhile vanquishers. I can think of two or three spots along the old NS&T that are still being used and upgraded similarly today.We may indeed be long losts, you never know. I had two great uncles that wre part of the Canadian Pacific fleet during WW2, who knows. Another job for the good inspector perhaps.
Rob
PSST PSST Leon, over here by the bar. Here's a bag of money to pay for many and several rounds of whatever the gang would like. yes indeed I have returned, appologies galore my friends our two day trip stretche dto almost 7 ! happens, we went north to visit some family after the wedding and well , long story short we have just got back in.Tom,BK, Lars,I did get your email and responded thanks for the concern,thanks everyone else as well. I do hate not bieng here regularly !
So forst off , I'm shocked and happy to see all the out pouring towards my birthday last saturday. thank you one and all for the kind words and urls and photo's and the like.had I known I would have tried to make it in, but it was the old rehearsal party/ dinner for the asaturday wedding ( nuff said ) I imagine that it was similar to the dinner party that Nick had By the way Nick happy aniversaur and a happy 17th bealtedly to the bar as well. 5x for everyone staying the coarse and keepimng things cooking along.
Tom-frostbite it is eh good choice, imagine a californian came up with that I concider myself well and truly tweeted for last tuesday, mind you teh KCS day seemed to go without too many difficulties,amazing the power of this plcae and it's denizens / customers.Oh I've ordered some approppriate,chicken wire,tile and heating and refridgeration units to allow Leon and Boris amd Mr Copperkettle to assemble a suitable containment area for the "critters" we are going to dub it area 52 and include a westcoast juice bar in honour of it's suggester ! Great next pieces to your bridge series they were good reads to be sure. I espeacially liked the Firth of forth bridge. In my minds eye I can see Beattie's battle cruiser squadron heading out to see before the dodger bank and Jutland engagements during WW1. Nice rememberance of 911 form you and lars and everyone else as well, hats off to all of you
Doug-wow thanks for taking the time out and expanding upon my meger articles on the AirLine, great stuff sir. I do hope that there is light at the end of your having to work two jobs tunnel.Hopefully noyt an express train either
Nick-To answer your week old question, the angled red stripe was the first of the F unit barricade stripe paint jobs, and IMHO the nicest of the CN F unit "modern" paintjobs. FA's and C Liners were also painted this way.Mind you I still vote hands down for the calssic green and ellow frieght and Grenn yellow and Black passenger schemes , as the truly proper and Classic paint schemes.
Lars / BK `I want to thank you two for the wonderfull brithady wishes as well,the pictures and the sentiments truly have warmed the chocles of my heart.I have to say that 35 was a challange for me ( half way to 70 ) alot to take in when one thinks of it. Mind you I haven't lost my sence of humour. My sister who is 45 got to bugging me about it and i calmly stated that yes,I was indeed half way to 70 but she was half way to 90 !. Once I came back to, she found it humourous as well !
Mike- Thanks for the birthday wishes and urls as well.You kinda covered all my likes in one fell swoop. Much appreciated sir Again thanks to everyone for all their well wishes and support it really has ment allot.
Tom/BK/CM3/Lars-I was dismayed to hear about the photo hub-bub. I guess we all shall ahve to place closer attention to what we pull upSo much for giving credit where credit is do. For what it's worth, I fully understand the frustration and where you folks are all comming from on this subject.A retooling of sunday needs to be concidered. Our own or each others photo's only unless we do get the green light. We don't want Bergie killing our vibe here after all.On a lighter note the penguins in Hamilton eh The city did build a twenty thousand seat areana downtown 15 yeasr ago which to this point only has housed jr B and two different AHL teams, Montreals farm club the Bulldogs currently occupy it, and they and the Toronto Marlboroughs the maple leaf farm team are already hated enemies. My brief hearing of this story has the teams name being canged to the Steal Hawks if te Penguins move ( this was the name of Hamilton's long gone OHL team of many decades past )At least the scenery won't be much different, one steal city to another. Mind you a propsed move of the Colorado Rockies to Hamilton before there settling in New Jersey was strongly opposed by the Buffalo Sabres as they feared a major loss of their fan baase should hamliton get a team. Coarse that was then this is now.
Well folks not an entirly adequate catching up but suffice to say thanks one and all for keeping the thread moving ever upward, and with it's constant and consistant excellant content.Leon let it be known that I will be paying for te rounds Monday tuesday and Wednesday to atone for my absence.
PS Oh Al-Nice to hear that you will soon be back amonst the living round here, I have alraedy updated my reading glasses. LOL
PPS -Lars No need to take a collection for computer equipment. I've made a few ipgrades and should be good for another 6 to 12 months. ( he knocks on his head for luck and throws salt over his shoulder )
Good afternoon Tom and the rst of the gang. time for a CR and a round for the house.
Move completed still will take some organizing but have more than double the space.
Donated several boxes of raw data to Railroad museum after placing it on CDs so much more compact and easier to stare.
Should be back on line next week from home soon as the tech comes out.
Have beeen reading the forum nice to see the return of several.
As to todays topic just mention those three ACF built recreation cars after their PRR service went to the Ice Follies where they were converted to tunnel cars for further service and I believe they are still in that service today.
TTFN Al
Good morning Tom and all! I'll have a light breakfast please before hitting the door for another Saturday of work. Only been able to to some rudimentary cathing-up on the doings here, but I'll get through it all soon enough. To answer Pete's almost week-old question, yes, the Woostock station is primarily used as a cafe, and a place to excape inclimate weather. No tickets are sold there. There are only a dozen or so Metra trains that stop in Woodstock each day, and there is only one other station further northwest (Harvard) on the Metra northwest line. The UP runs along the same rails. I have no idea how frequently. Very appropriate posts on 911 day (loved the 1949 Freedom train), and some very excellent efforts on the KCS theme gentelmen. I'll get the little bit I have on that line posted later today. I was particlulry impressed with Mike's post, who obviously spent a loooong time putting together his submission. . Everyone here has been very supportive of my absence these days, and I thank-you all for that. Here is an ENCORE from my humbled self, and I will be back!
Setouts and pickups by W.F. Knapke – Aug 1935 Railroad Stories
Among the many things vastly improved by the railroads since they were first used are torpedoes – “guns” or “caps” to the boys on the road. The first one I ever saw was crudely made of paper and sealing wax, with no means of fastening it to the rail. You laid it on the rail, slapped a little mud on it to make it stick, if there happened to be any handy, and if there wasn’t, you trusted to luck.
Then the railroads invented a new kind of tar-dipped torpedo. Through a hole in it a wooden peg had to be pushed into the opening of a rail joint. But since only one space in ten would match up with the peg, the idea wasn’t so hot.
After that came the round, tin-box kind, with lead straps to clamp to the rail. Next the “turtle back,” much the same, but larger and rounder. Some of them had steel springs instead of lead straps. When one of these “wheel busters” exploded, hunks of tin and gravel were scattered for yards. After a number of men visited the company sawbones to have debris removed from their anatomies the present fiber case was developed, and the gravel omitted from its contents. The new ones are just as loud, and they’re a lot safer.
During the time of the steel spring variety, some unsung genius invented what was known as the torpedo fork. The device was much like a four-pronged pitch fork, with the space between prongs Nos. 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 a little wider than the head of one rail. To use it, you put a torpedo between 3 and 4. Then you reached over the rear caboose railing and let down the prongs so they straddled the rail. When the torpedo hit the rail head, the springs were loosened by the impact and caught on the rail.
* One of the few things in common used by the railroads which does not have a nation-wide slang name is the fusee. Once in a while it is referred to as a “torch” or “candle,” but they are rare. Moreover, fusees have undergone a few changes. There used to be certain types, such as the ”fifteen-minute,” which burned red five, green five, and white five minutes (back in the days when green was caution and white meant clear). But, of course, they are no more. There used to be the five-minute red fusee, for use on the freight trains only (don’t ask me why). Somewhat different was the type with a cap in its head, and which you banged down on the rail to light it. This was fine unless the rail was wet, when you lit it with a match if you could. But outside of these freaks, fusees are about the same today as they always were.
* Once a crew overlooked their orders, two engines smacked each other on the nose, and the “big hook” came to pick up the pieces. Among the pieces was the tank of one engine, too damaged to proceed on its own trucks, with its flare board ripped along the seam joining it to water compartment. It was loaded on a flat car, but darkness had fallen by the time the wrecker was ready to return to the terminal, where, upon its arrival, the entire train was shoved on a track close to the back shop.
Later the same night a passenger train sped over the same track. The postal clerk was alert to catch the mail sack from its crane, and he swung out his catcher. Nothing on the crane.
“Doggone sleepy-headed postmaster,” muttered the clerk, “wonder he wouldn’t wake up and get on the job.”
But when the second, third and succeeding cranes were passed and there were no mail sacks on any of them, the clerk got busy on the telegraph wire, and a little later operators were awakening track walkers and sending them out along the right-of-way, searching for the missing mail.
In spite of a diligent and continued search, the pouches were not found, and the mystery of the missing mail sacks bade fair to go down to posterity. But a couple of days later an employee passing between the wall of the back shop and wrecking train looked up, and there were the missing mail sacks, all nicely wedged between flare board and body of the damage engine tank. The flare board had evidently bent out from vibration, or was not noticed when it was loaded, and stuck out enough to gather in the mail very neatly.
A young lady came home from a date, rather sad. She told her mother, "Anthony proposed to me an hour ago." "Then why are you so sad?" her mother asked. "Because he also told me he is an atheist. Mom, he doesn't even believe there's a Hell." Her mother
Hi Tom and all.
A pint of Bathams please RUTH after the great feast NICK prepared last night.
NICK Liked the "Light Pacific" comment.. The regulars at Our Place would surely enjoy the 5 inch models in Pickering.Mike has posted a great link to a British web-site with preservation scenes, any idea where Jinty 47383 is in the photo on the site. I think I know the other locations.
will the Zepplin ever be the same with BORIS and his new friend aboard,lets hope than can locate ROB.
MIKE Great old photos in the links. Many thanks to the British link.It was great to see Mallard running, she done very few trips when she was put back in steam as a 40th anniversary of her record run in 1938. A great photo of the three A4s at York. The one in the middle which was acting as long scrapped sister SILVER LINK the first of the class, is actually #60019 BITTERN which is due to return to steam soon.
Good pics of the Tanfield Railway with the great industrial locos. it really is like stepping back in time when you visit there, with the 150 year old engine shed. I have found a link to the railway.
http://www.tanfield-railway.co.uk/PostNuke/index.php
CM3 It looked like the Reading Company was an early user of diesel traction. who was AGEIR.
Its amazing how the expressions vary in different parts of the country refering to workshop terms and different pieces of equipment. Just 40 miles from where I lived in England, in the Black Country it was like going to another country.
TOM.I remember the red lead, the red primer paint we used was called 'Bradford Red'. it was a great paint but I think it has been banned now.
Very interesting link to the Amtrak Cascades, they look stylish trains. I guess the structure on the first car behind the loco on the cars roof is to help cut down wind resistance.
Well as the weekend is nearly here I'll have another and a round please RUTH.
Good Morning Barkeep and All Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. We’ll play some CCR first, “Green River,” followed by “She Got the Ring and I Got the Finger,” and last (for Boris) “19th Nervous Breakdown.”
Tom: Enjoyed the GN material. When I lived in Nashville, I “railroaded” now and then with a fellow who had family in North Dakota and rode the “Builder” at least once a year to see them. He was my introduction to Rocky’s Road. It lived up to advance billing when I got to ride the “Builder” a few years later. My son puts ketchup on everything (except breakfast cereal and he’s trying to figure out a way to do that) – I told him if he did, he’d be eating out on the back porch with the K9 Korps.
The read lead story was a good one as well; at least you didn’t say pass the !@#$ butter.
BTW, I remember telling somebody underground one time to make something “fast” to another piece of equipment; we stopped everything for simultaneous translation. Did you ever tell someone to “tunk” an object, or how about use just a “dight” of grease on a fitting? All fine NE expressions. Remember, a “gam” is not just a leg, and “skin to skin” is not what it sound like, either.
Mike: Wonderful URLs; they always set me going and recalling stuff when I look at them.
I especially enjoyed the items showing the P&R locomotive as well as the UMRR equipment. An excellent book on Civil War railroads is titled Victory Rode the Rails. You might enjoy it.
I recall mentioning Burnside’s horse in a piece I posted awhile back re Providence and the NYNH&H. The south end of his horse is the first thing one saw upon exiting the old station in Providence. I was looking at the picture and speculating on how that piece was aimed. He was a pretty decent corps commander but an abject failure as an army commander. Some of my ancestors fought under his command during the “recent unpleasantness.” He had a strong connection to Rhode Island although he was originally from Indiana. Those of you who are interested in weaponry may recall that Burnside had a design for a repeating rifle which he went bust trying to manufacture.
The FTs in the Montana shot are the demonstrator units. Dark green with dark yellow livery.
NYC 25 and 26 generally met near Buffalo, not necessarily in the station. Anyway a classic picture in the best sense of the word.
Pete: Thanks for the wide-ranging comments.
Nick: Last but not least. I assume we save the Birney trolley for the weekends?
Herewith some Reading material. I like to sort locomotives by date as it gives us a better picture of what was going on
Reading Company
Diesel Locomotive Summary – By Date
r/n
Bldr.
Model
Date
Notes
98
AGEIR
1926
Orig. RDG 50; scr. 1949
99
1928
Orig. RDG 51; scr. 1954
10-15
EMC
SW
1937
r/b to SW900m’s
40-41
ALCO
HH900
Scr. 1962
16-18
SW1
1939
RDG 17 scr.
97
St. L-FM
Orig. RDG 35; scr. 1953
60-70
BLW
VO660
1939-1942
1
19-22
EMD
1940
RDG 20-21 scr. 1975
71-89
VO1000
1940-1944
2
50-52
ALCO-GE
S1
Scr. 1964
90
NW2
53-54
1941
3
23-24
91-92
RDG 91 scr; 92 ret. In 1975
55-59
1944
4
250 a,b -259 a,b
FTA
FTB
1945
Tr. To EMD for GP30s
42-47
S2
1946-1947
5
26-39
DS4-4-1000
6
101-104
1947
7
260-265a,
260-265b
F3A
F3B
1948
Tr. To EMD for GP35s
300-305a,
300-305b
FA2
FB2
Tr. To ALCO for C424s
304-305b sold to ALCO for L&HR
700-729
1948-1949
8
266-283a
266-271b
F7A
F7B
1950
900-905
FP7A
530-554
560-563
576-589
AS16
1951-1953
9; all scr. By 1969
1. RDG 60 blt. In 1939; RDG 61-63 blt. in 1940; RDG 64-67 blt. in 1941, RDG 68-70 blt. in 1942. RDG 60 scr. 1961; RDG 61-70 r/b to SW900m’s in 1961, r# RDG 1501, 1505, 1506, 1504, 1502, 1507, 1508, 1503, 1509 and 1510.
2. RDG 80-81 blt. in 1940; RDG 82 blt. in 1942; RDG 71-75, 83-85 blt. in 1943; RDG 76-79, 86-89 blt. in 1944. RDG 72, 76, 77, 79, 82-87 scr. RDG 71, 73-75, 78, 80-81 r/b to SW1200 m’s, r# RDG 1712, 1704, 1703, 1705, 1707, 1702, 1701, 1713 and 1714.
3. RDG 53 sold to W.A. Smith.
4. r/b to SW1200m’s in 1959; r# RDG 2706, 2708, 2711, 2710, 2708
5. RDG 42-45 blt. in 1946, RDG 45-47 blt. in 1947. RDG 42 and 43 sold in 1964 to Republic Steel; r# 337, 338; RDG 46 and 47 sold to Republic Steel; RDG 44-45 scr.
6. RDG 34-39 blt. in 1946; RDG 26-33 blt. in 1947. RDG 26-27, 30-39 tr. To EMD in 1966 for SW 1500’s; RDG 28-29 sold to P&BR r# P&BR 360-361.
7. RDG 101-102 sold to PNC in 1974; RDG 103, 104 sold to A. Merrilees.
8. RDG 700-714 blt. in 1948; RDG 715-729 blt. in 1949. RDG 700-715, 717-729 scr. 1969-1970; RDG 716 scr. in 1975.
9. RDG 530-550, 560-563 blt. in 1951; RDG 576-579 blt. in 1952; RDG 551-554 blt. in 1953.
Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the house.
Thanks for the menu Nick. I put ketchup on everything.
Ketchup on my Reading
http://aok.lib.umbc.edu/speccoll/imcatimages/73-02-051.jpg
Fred Leach locomotive
http://aok.lib.umbc.edu/speccoll/imcatimages/76-05-053.jpg
General Burnside's horse
http://aok.lib.umbc.edu/speccoll/imcatimages/76-05-051.jpg
Union Pacific in Wyoming
http://content.lib.washington.edu/transportation/image/191.jpg
Northern Pacific in Montana
http://muse.museum.montana.edu/rvndb/rvn-jpgs/RVN10223.jpg
2 Mikados and a Northern
http://muse.museum.montana.edu/rvndb/rvn-jpgs/RVN10224.jpg
Grade crossing
http://muse.museum.montana.edu/rvndb/rvn-jpgs/RVN10027.jpg
Diesel test train and NP train #1 at Missoula 1940
http://muse.museum.montana.edu/rvndb/rvn-jpgs/RVN10253.jpg
Time to shuffle off to ....
http://central.terminal.railfan.net/pics/1950-1970/termair.jpg
Two 20th Century Limiteds
http://central.terminal.railfan.net/pics/1950-1970/nittrain.jpg
England
http://www.railcentre.co.uk/steam/gallery5/steam_gallery5.htm
Mike
Good evening Gentlemen all ( although `we merry few` might be more accurate of late)
Best start with some beer (or whatever) for the house and a cold one for me please Leon,looks like a quiet one for the galley this night so lets see if I can whip up something a touch exotic
So,who has been about:-
CM3-interesting choice with the `Liberty` and nicely laid out for easy consumption
TOM-don`t mind me mate-I`ll fess up to anything,awful mix of guilty conscience & compulsive behaviour
`Blast` tied in neatly with todays ration of d.v.d set-Pacific Northwest-along the Puget Sound shoreline,Tacoma rings a bell but forgotten the other towns. Consist unfamiliar to me,AMTRAK P-40 genesis (or whatever they are) top and tailing an articulated TALGO type set with some strange streamlined transitional height units at each end (sorry but I can think of no better way to describe them) to match cars to locos-all done out in a very elegant dark green,wine red & white scheme.
Side trip along Mt Rainier scenic line-nice looking small wheeled mike or consolidation in good trim and working well
MIKE-another fine assortment of (non litigious ) images-bet the guy leaning on the crank arm of that turntable would dispute the term `light pacific`...............
BK-thank you for those kind words-like yourself,I prefer to bring a little sunshine with me--theres enough moaning & groaning out in the real world without bringing it with us ()
PETE-Fine detective work my man -having looked at the url you posted I can see the livery is the same but totally faded out on the `Duchess`-still think the combination of side tanks and square spectacles gives her a Fox-Walker look-For some reason I associate R.S.H products with a square section saddle tank...........
Like the modified itinery-once we get to Pickering we must stop for afternoon tea with an aged aunt & uncle of mine -their next door neighbour is one of the top men in 5" gauge fabrication apparently
Well looks like it`s just me in the galley tonight-seems H&H have taken the `Draig Goch` Zeppelin on a daring cross-border raid in search of Bar-Chandler ROB. Rather more worryingly,they have taken Boris & Copperkettle( the new Central-American work placement lad who arrived this morning ) as a landing party-keep the scanner tuned to police frequencies please.........
Right-looks like we will be just the one table for supper then,so how about:-
Crepes stuffed with scallops,mussels & cockles en provencale
or
Smoked mackerel pate,laced with capers with wholemeal toast
Whole trout stuffed with button mushroom pate & baked in almond butter
Lemon sole fillet pan fried in herbed flour
Grilled red snapper basted with lime & chilli oil
North Atlantic cod steaks with cranberry & wild herb vinaigrette
Crispy Duck with pancakes,hoi sin sauce & spring onions
coffee,liquers & dessert trolley (Brill,naturally...)
Oh-Cheeseburgers & fries for the track gangs & poolroom crew,as usual
right,thats me away to the galley-have got some interesting new wines I would value your opinions on-apparently they are more fun if you drink them as you would beer..................
Take care chaps-bon appetite
TTFN-nick
A pint of Bathams and some of Nick's Fish 'N' Chips for later please.
Good to see you in LARS, last evening, I will try to get here in the afternoons. I dont know very much about copyright law but I must agree with BK if people dont want it to be copied why put it on the web .
CM3 Interesting on the morning depatures on the PRR from Chicago. They were great train names and a great way to go between Chicago and the east..
MIKE. Thanks for another great set of links. Some great snow scenes, even the PE in the snow. Love those old color pics especially the Connecticut scene and in New London. The engineer is having to work hard to turn loco#1009 on the turntable, a good pic
With an investegation Inspector Clueless would be proud of I have found out about The Flying Duchess,( I think the name is a great mix of two of Britains favorite steam locos, Flying Scotsman and the Duchess Class). With the clues NICK gave, I noticed the number 7745 on the bufferbeam from this I was able to find out the loco was built by Robert Stephenson & Hawthorn in 1952> It worked at Meaford Power Station in Staffordshire not far from Stoke-On-Trent in the Midlands of England. I am not sure when it was shipped to the U.S.A. but I believe the first line the loco when to was the Boyne City Railroad in Grand Falls Michigan where it was named Flying Duchess along with 3 ex British Railways MK1 passenger cars. Also the loco was at Chattanooga at one time. As far as I can find out the much travelled loco is in Louisville Kentucky under restoration at the present time. I enjoyed looking into this loco thanks Mike.
I have a link which shows a sister loco to the Flying Duchess, #7684 of 1951 at the Foxfield Railway, a great line to see steam and diesel Industrial locomotives.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/foxfield/meaford_no2.htm.
TOM Great to See the Great Northern " Blast from the Past"( great title) We are making the final plans to go over to the old land as I doubt if we will find out a date to go until the last minute. Alan says the Keighly & Worth Valley Railway are having a steam gala in mid-October whether we can get there we will have to see.
Thinking about going over and reading BK's post about the reunion in Britain I have added a bit more to the intinerary. I wonder if we could get a grant for Our Place regulars to study British Railways.
Having spent the night in Edinburgh .
Edinburgh to Newcastle-On-Tyne by GNER electric.
Newcastle to Carlisle, about 60 miles in which parts of Hadrian's Wall can be seen from the train. After a leisurely lunch
Then the Settle& Carlisle line A very scenic line that was preposed for closure in the 80s which is 72 miles long and travels over the Northern Fells of England. and goes over the Ribblehead Viaduct. This is a link to the line.
http://www.settle-carlisle.co.uk/
The train from Carlisle terminates at the city of Leeds from where is is a short trip to York where I would suggest a stay of two nights to recharge the batteries(great beer there) and include a visit to the National Railway Museum in the city and a 30 mile trip out to the North Yorkshire Moors Railway at Pickering, an 18 mile steam line with a 4 mile streach at at 2% grade which makes for hard working steam locos.
Thanks TOM and BK for the kind words.
Well RUTH I have another pint and let me get a round in.
Pete.
Good Morning Barkeep and All Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.
Copyright rules - gotta love it! It's like anything else developed by a committee. I'd better stop there b4 Boris drags me to the rat room and the penguin throws me in the "cooler."
Interesting pictures of Connecticut. The shot of Meriden in the Blizzard of '88 was a good one as were the pictures of New London, which has not changed all that much. The tracks are still close to the harbor.
Awhile back I posted some material on the "Liberty Limited." Here's some material realating to 1942 ers PRR departures from Chicago to the east. I have put together a set of material which I plan to post every so often. Enjoy the train names and the services available.
Chicago – East Service – Morning Departures (Summary)
No.
Train
Depart
Arrive
52
“New Yorker”
9:30 a.m.
6:35 a.m.
Chicago-New York sleeping cars: 12 section/drawing room (more than one); diner lounge (Chicago-Pittsburgh)
22
“Manhattan Limited”
11:30 a.m.
7:20 a.m.
Chicago-New York sleeping cars: Compartment/ drawing room buffet; 12 section/ drawing room; 10 section/3 double bedroom
Chicago-Washington sleeping car: 12 section/ drawing room ( to train 50 at Pittsburgh)
Pittsburgh-Scranton sleeping car: 12 section/ drawing room – to DL&W at Sunbury
Diner: Chicago-Pittsburgh;
Coach: Chicago-New York
22-50
“Manhattan Limited/ Statesman”
7:40 a.m. (Washington)
Pittsburgh-Washington sleeping cars: 6 double bedroom/ buffet lounge; 8 section/5 double bedrooms; 12 section/ drawing room
Coaches: Pittsburgh- Washington
Trains 22 and 50 ran together until reaching Pittsburgh at 9:30 p.m. Train 50 departed Pittsburgh at 10:55 p.m. arriving in Washington at 7:40 the next morning.
22-36
“Manhattan Limited/ Philadelphia Express
7:10 a.m. (Phila.)
Pittsburgh-Philadelphia sleeping cars: 10 section/buffet;
12 duplex rooms/5 double bedrooms; 10 roomette/ 5 double bedrooms
Pittsburgh-Atlantic City sleeping car: 10 sections/2 compartments/drawing room
Coaches: Pittsburgh- Philadelphia
Trains 22 and 36 ran together until arriving at Pittsburgh at 9:30 p.m. Train 22 departed Pittsburgh for New York at 10:00 p.m. and train 36 departed Pittsburgh for Philadelphia at 11:35 p.m.
work safe
So Nick confesses to implicate the blameless.
Where is Inspector Clueless?
Flying Dutchess was a British built 0-6-0T Tank engine is all I know.
For Dave, the Butte St. Yard
http://www.uncanny.net/~wetzel/buttestyardfromsouthend52.JPG
6th & Main Station (and many pics at this website, including Steeple)
http://206.103.49.193/pe/htm/pe473.htm
Blue Line operates in the red
http://206.103.49.193/pe/htm/pe413.htm
Southern California snowstorm !
http://206.103.49.193/pe/htm/pe398.htm
Meridian, Conn. station, Blizzard of '88
http://cho.uconn.edu/cgi-bin/Pscandoc.cgi?app=22&folder=3666&doc=1
Bolton Notch, Conn. steam
http://cho.uconn.edu/cgi-bin/Pscandoc.cgi?app=21&folder=1103&doc=1
Footbridge over CV tracks
http://cho.uconn.edu/cgi-bin/Pscandoc.cgi?app=21&folder=1362&doc=1
CV steam at Yantic Falls
http://cho.uconn.edu/cgi-bin/Pscandoc.cgi?app=21&folder=1363&doc=1
Turntable
http://cho.uconn.edu/cgi-bin/Pscandoc.cgi?app=18&folder=86&doc=1
Putnam, Conn.
http://cho.uconn.edu/cgi-bin/Pscandoc.cgi?app=21&folder=1275&doc=1
Automobiles
http://cho.uconn.edu/cgi-bin/Pscandoc.cgi?app=22&folder=840&doc=1
New London
http://cho.uconn.edu/cgi-bin/Pscandoc.cgi?app=21&folder=1369&doc=1
http://cho.uconn.edu/cgi-bin/Pscandoc.cgi?app=21&folder=1370&doc=1
Evening all-beers all round for them as wants `em ,juice or coffee for the rest......
Thanks to all for the good wishes....TOM-we did manage to "celibrate" our union and will be having a meal later in the week
I fear I may be to blame for the photo incident-if it`s Bob Boudreau`s pic of the O.N.R TEE train I lifted it from the O.N.R site and forwarded it to you in the seemingly erroneous belief that posting on the `net constitutes public domain-if so ,please accept my sincere apologies for any embarressment caused and forward any further communications to me
PETE & MIKE-Have studied those `Irish` pics carefully and my initial conclusions are :- it has the look of a Fox-Walker product about it-not sure if any of those were exported, the track looks to be standard rather than 5`3" gauge and lacking the white limestone ballast I associate with Irish track, the bloody great `lion on a unicycle` British Railways logo on the side tank is a bit out of place,the carriage doesn`t have the slightly wider look of Irish stock....in short,I think its a Brit of some sort-also there appears to be an American clerestory roof `heavyweight` behind the first coach..........any thoughts ?
Thanks for the heads up on Jessie-she looks to be in prime condition
Thought for the day:-definition of a wife-a woman who will sleep with you when only half drunk
On which happy note,another round for those with the strength to take it,it`s the moonlight mile for me-sleep well one and all
nick
G'day Gents!
Leon, a round for the house - and
Boris, ring the bell!
Nice Post from Pete and sorry to learn that you were a bit under the weather. Hope you're on the upswing now and making plans for your trip to Merry Olde.
Penguins ARE most interesting creatures and that animated Post is a rib tickler, fer sure! <grin>
And yes - Awk now has a representative characature so there will be no mistkaing him for here on out! Yes, that groundhog "affair" is still good for a laugh - depending on which side of it one happened to be on! <smile>
Lars - received your Email and I wouldn't spend a whole lot of time and effort over it. Happens - but as long as we take the time to use caution - things should work out. I do see some significant changes for our Sunday Photo Posting Day! insofar as the continued use of Pix from sites such as trainweb.com and trainweb.org. It wasn't them making the complaint - however, all of those Pix "belong" to someone. My impression - obviously false - was that they could be used unless specifically prohibited by the photographer. So much for that . . .
Hope things get back to an even keel for you and your family. Watching someone "go" is never something any of us revel in thinking about or experiencing . . .
Not much more to make comment on as we've had a really S-L-O-W day - so, I'll take my leave and see y'all in the 'morrow.
Tom
Until the next time!
Lars
I wasn't too well yesterday, but feeling better today, sorry to have missed the17th anniversary of Our Place and Nick,s wedding anniversary, with Nick buying the beer all night.
As I am still a tad delicate I had better have a coffee and I'll try a Ham roll please RUTH and a round for the great KCS day yesterday.
As I say a great theme day on a line I seen some of their locos but knew very little about. Very well started by CM3 with the Passenger trains and the KCS adverts.
TOM Great Southern Belle info and pics I have found the Southern Belle song on the KCS Historical Soc site
http://www.kcshs.org/song.htm.
The KCS FP9s look good in that paint scheme I thought. I read recently that the KCS was doing a trip for the Missouri Orchestra For what I gathered from the article they were going to use the cars they got from St Louis earlier in the year, after some refurbishment.I dont know if they got the diesels that used to be at Union Station St Louis as part of the deal, if they did it would interesting to know if they are going to paint them in a KCS livery.Hopefully they may publish a photo.
MIKE Many thanks for the KCS history and the link to Arthur Stilwell is well worth looking at. As usual great links with the steam and diesel , liked the FM locos and the one of a KCS diesel barely a month old. Interesting pics of the old KC Grand Central Station .
As to the loco in Ireland I have to admit it as got me beat. Perhaps Nick may be able to help,if not I will ask Alan to have a look when he gets back..
LARS Sorry to hear you are having a bad time at the moment I really hope things are on an even keel real soon. Many thanks for those great book covers.
DAVE Any photos of those Steeple Cabs. The Great Central preserved line is unique in the UK at the present, as they have relayed the second track on about 5 miles of their line and it is now possible to have trains passing at speed, although this is at a slow speed set down by the light railway order. If the main line steam does finish in theUK as it was a former main line, it should be possible to raise the speed limit on the Great Central. I had something on the Great Central on the word proccessor but I managed to delete it somehow. .
DOUG Always good to see you although I realise how busy you are. I read the same piece about the aircraft carrier and the lighthose in a British newspaper quite a while back.
BK. Well researched piece on the old members who used to frequent Our Place, surely, like us when the bar was closed, they must miss it from time to time.
NICK Happy Anniversary for yesterday. I have looked into a bit of the history of the 0-6-0 saddle tank JESSIE. She was built by Hunslet of Leeds in 1937 so was a forerunner of the Austerities. She spent her working life at Eastmoors steelworks in Cardiff. Withdrawn in 1965 she was put on display at Splott park in Cardiff. After suffering from vandelism, moved to the Dean Forest Railway in 1980 before going to Llangollen in 1998 and steaming there at the end of 2003.
Thats a great set of DVDs, unfortunatly it is a different system over here for playing them although the computer will play UK dvds It says I am limited to how many apparently. I have some old videos in the UK I will have to see if there is any way of getting some equipment that will play them.
TOM That penguin video is great, what is it about Penguins that I could watch their antics for ages. And was that the first pic of TEX, it is good to see there is no lasting marks from the run in with the groundhog.
I have taken note of the post on the photos.
Anyway I will see how well Iam by trying a Bathams RUTH and another round please.
PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ THIS!
I have been notified that a photo on "my other Thread" has apparently been used without the permission of the photographer.
I have no other information with regard to which photo and so forth.
In my own case, I use Trainweb.org and Trainweb.com for many photos and will review the caveats and so forth on those sites to ensure that no violations were made by me. If they were, they weren't deliberate. Mea culpa (maybe).
Before providing photos, ensure that no copyright or other infringements may come into play when Posting photos. Apparently "crediting" Trainweb isn't sufficient.
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the hous and $ for the jukebox.
Rainy today - gas prices are at $2.43 here in the coalfields; filled the beast on the way to work this a.m.
Enjoyed reading abt the KCS. The KCS Fairbanks Morse picture that Mike provided was a good one! IIRC, KCS had a fair number (10, I believe) of A and B Erie builts.
Nick - Zeppelin-delivered drinks? Wow! How about a toast to Frank Luke, wherever he may be - that name will probably make a few folks scratch their heads. Also congrats on 17...
Lars' comments were interesting as usual. If I am voting for UP heritage units, my first choice is the one they did for SP, and my second is the one for D&RGW. The SP unit is beautiful, IMHO.
B4 I forget, quiz answers were posted yesterday at 8:40 a.m.
I'll try and drop by later today.
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