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Posted by BudKarr on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 10:45 AM

Good Morning Captain Tom and all assembled!

Ruth, a round for the house and two #3s for us . . . hot coffee with just a "splash" to make it interesting for me and a pot of tea for Lydia if you please! Thumbs Up [tup]

My offering for this Railways of Great Britain "theme" day! With full credit given to Lydia for putting this together! Thumbs Up [tup]

InterCity (British Rail)

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A High Speed Train power car in InterCity Executive livery
 
 

  

InterCity 225 in Swallow livery at Peterborough
 

InterCity (or, in the earliest days, the hyphenated Inter-City) was introduced by British Rail in 1966 as a brand-name for its long-haul express passenger services (see British Rail brand names for a full history).

In 1986 the British Railways Board divided its operations into a number of sectors ("sectorisation"). The sector responsible for long-distance express trains assumed the brand-name InterCity, although many services that were designated as such were assigned to other sectors (eg, London to King's Lynn services were transferred to the commuter sector Network SouthEast).

InterCity was divided into the following divisions:

 

  • Cross-Country: Services between city pairs that use a combination of the various main lines, but in general do not call at any London terminus; many of these served the Cross-Country Route.

The InterCity sector was also responsible for Motorail and overnight sleeper services to and from London.

It operated High Speed Trains (under the brand-name "Inter-City 125", reflecting its top speed in miles per hour - roughly 200 km/h), InterCity 225s (although this refers to the top speed in kilometers per hour - roughly 140mph), and various other loco-hauled trains.

The original InterCity livery consisted of standard British Rail corporate blue and grey with the brand "InterCity" added in white lettering on each coach. The power cars at each end of Inter-City 125 trains had extensive yellow panels, hence the nickname "flying bananas". A separate InterCity livery was introduced in 1986 after sectorisation, which consisted of dark grey on white with a red stripe. There were several variations:

 

  • Executive - introduced in 1984, based on the APT-P livery. It consisted of a dark grey upper body, an off-white lower body, and horizontal red and white below-window bodyside stripes. On HSTs, half-yellow front ends wrapped around the lower cab ends. InterCity branding was on the upper grey body, with white numbers carried on the upper grey cabside.
  • ScotRail - as Executive livery, but with red stripe replaced by a light blue stripe, and ScotRail branding.
  • Mainline - introduced in 1988. As Executive livery, but minus the branding and with full-yellow front ends.
  • Swallow - final version, introduced in 1989. As Mainline livery, but with white lower body, half-yellow front end, InterCity branding and Swallow logo on upper grey bodyside, and black lower cabside numbers.

The success of the HST trains and the investment in electrification schemes, resulting in shorter and more reliable journey times, coupled to innovative marketing led to InterCity becoming one of the great successes for British Rail in the 1980s. Patronage increased markedly, and it soon became the most profitable part of the state-owned rail operator, and cross-subsidisation from InterCity's profits was used to safeguard the future of unprofitable (but necessary) rural routes which had been under threat from closure since the Beeching Axe of the 1960s.

After the privatisation of British Rail, InterC

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Posted by pwolfe on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 10:39 AM

Hi Tom and all.

A cup or two of the coffee and a bacon roll please RUTH.

DOUG Thanks for answer to the track machine. Great photo of that car. Many years ago while with a mate we had to pull into a garage to change a flat tire. while we were doing this a guy was washing his car with a long brush which had the water coming out of the brush head. I happened to look up as he drove off and he had got the brush stuck in the back fender with the brush sticking up like a trolley pole. there was a hell of a bang as the hose stretched out and came away from the wall. His fender must have been attached real well.Laugh [(-D].

TOM That advert makes me long for a time machine. At least today the Brit-Pass is still good value when compared to the rover tickets availiable in the UK.

Great pics with a LMS flavor which I think CM3 said was his favorite British railway

Duke Of Gloucester #71000 was the last express passenger loco built for BR in 1954. She is having her third stint of main line running since preservation.

Class5 #45110 took part hauling the last BR steam train on AUG 11th 1968. This class of 842 locos was widely regarded as the best mixed traffic locos on BR.

Royal Scot is fitted with the Headlight etc ready for its visit to North America. This loco class was rebuilt by the LMS by Stanier in the 40s and 50s with a taper boiler( virtually new locos) Royal Scot herself is being renovated to running condition at the present.

For BR day I have written some thing on the Great Central. I will post it in 2 parts.

  

A British Fallen Flag. The Great Central (The London Extension).Part 1

 

As a boy there were two stations serving my hometown of Rugby. They were both island stations although the LMS station Rugby Midland was much larger with two very long platforms with bays at both ends, with the through lines and the goods lines passing on both sides. The Rugby Central was much smaller with the main line passing the platform faces and a goods loop on the up (towards London) and just a siding on the down. The line passed through Rugby in a 1 ¾ mile cutting that was 48 feet at its deepest. The approach to the station from the north was on a curve but from the south the line was straight and the steam of the locos could be seen approaching for many miles.

 

The present Midland station is the 3rd one opening in 1885; the line first arrived in Rugby in 1838. This is planned to be completely remodeled soon as part of the West Coast Modernization.

 

The Great Central was born from the Manchester, Sheffield & Lincolnshire Railway serving the area in its title. It had a branch that served the Nottinghamshire coalfield in the Colwick area near to Nottingham. It was from this that the chairman of the MS&LR Sir Edward Watkin planned his new railway south. Watkin was also chairman of the Metropolitan Railway, serving the northern suburbs of London. and of the South Eastern Railway, serving as the name suggested, the south east of England. It was Sir Edwards dream to connect these lines and run them to a tunnel under the English Channel to France. He was about 100 years ahead of his time!

 

The Act of Parliament to build the London Extension was obtained in 1893. The line was built as a double track main line, with deep cuttings and ruling grade of 0.8%, built to the Berne Gauge which was larger than most of the other UK lines. It was an expensive line to build with the railway going through the large cities of Nottingham and Leicester on brick viaducts.

 

On the approach to London the GC shared tracks with the Metropolitan The line open in 1899.The GC established a large locomotive shed in a small village called Woodford Halse about 20 miles south of Rugby south of Woodford a branch line was built to connect the GC with The Great Western Railway at Banbury on the GWR main line from London to Birmingham. This connection gave the GC a great deal of traffic opening up a route to the South coast and South Wales. The GC enjoyed a good relationship with the GWR, unlike the fierce rivalry with the London & North Western and the Midland Railways. The GWR and the GC built a joint line from London which bypassed the Metropolitan lines which had become overcrowded with the growth of the London suburbs, which the Great Western used as a cut off to their Birmingham line which previously had to go via Oxford, and allowed the GWR to compete with the L&NWR for the London to Birmingham traffic timewise.

 

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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:54 AM

THEME for the Day! - THEME for the Day!

Railways of Great Britain

 

BR 71000 Class 8 Pacific Duke of Gloucester (Foto: K. Langston)

 

Great Britain: LMS Stanier Class 5 4-6-0 45110 at Bewdley

(foto: unknown - GNU Free Documentation)

 

Great Britain: LMS Royal Scot Class 6100 Royal Scot

(foto: unknown - Public Domain)

 


Great Britain: LMS Stainer Class 5 4-6-0 45110 at Bridgnorth

(foto: unknown - Wikimedia Commons)

 

Enjoy! Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:39 AM

THEME for the Day! - THEME for the DAY!

Railways of Great Britain

 

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #40

(first Posted on page 185)

Here’s something to enjoy regarding the BRITISH RAILWAYS in a 1948 advertisement from my private collection:

. . . . . 25% Reduction IN TOUR FARES . . . . .

. . . . . For Americans Visiting The BRITISH ISLES
. . . . .

When planning your British Isles holiday, make a list of all the places you want to see in England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales. Your Travel Agent will be glad to help you prepare your complete individual itinerary. That way you’ll effect substantial savings on planned tour tickets offered by British Railways.

. . . . . . . . . . See More in Britain! . . . . . . . . . .

Naturally, you’ll visit our great cities, our world-famous historic and scenic shrines (all within a day’s train trip from London) . . . but with more time you can enjoy so many equally memorable travel experiences in our less publicized byways. So plan to stay longer – discover for yourself the charm of our villages, countryside and rugged coastline.

. . . . . . . . . . Travel means BRITISH RAILWAYS

TRAINS . . . Swift, comfortable transportation to every corner of the British Isles.

HOTELS . . . 45 hotels associated with British Railways, strategically situated for your tour or business trips.

CROSS-CHANNEL FACILITIES . . . Railway-operated steamer services over a wide variety of routes to Ireland and the Continent. Depend on the all-inclusive travel services of British Railways for every phase of your tour of the British Isles. We suggest you secure your rail transportation, as well as Pullman, cross-channel steamer and hotel reservations before your leave.

British Railways – official agents for air tickets on British European Air Corporation routes in the British Isles.

Write for British Railways – new and amusing booklet, ”WHAT, NO ICE?” – written especially for Americans planning to visit us; as well as the full-color map folder, ”THE BRITISH ISLES” both free upon request to Dept. 25 at any of the offices shown below.

For tickets, reservations and authoritative travel information on the British Isles

CONSULT YOUR LOCAL TRAVEL AGENT or any British Railways office:

. . . . . NEW YORK 20, N. Y., 9 ROCKEFELLER Pl.
. . . . . CHICAGO 3, ILL, 39 So. Lasalle St.
. . . . . LOS ANGELES 14, CAL., 510 W. 6th St.
. . . . . TORONTO, ONT., 69 Younge Street

. . . . . . . . . . BRITISH RAILWAYS . . . . . . . . . .


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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:17 AM

G'day Gents!

Tuesday once again and time for some delights from the Mentor Village Bakery! Coffee is freshly ground 'n brewed - what are you waiting for Question [?] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Loves that Pix of the vehicle with the gasoline pump apparatus trailing along - you do live dangerously, Doug! <grin> Hey! I KNEW it was a RR weed wacker  - just wanted to see if YOU did! <yeah, right!>

Good seeing Pete yesterday and appreciate the straight scoop on the location of that German roundhouse. Thumbs Up [tup] I did a wee bit of checking into the "railways" vs "railroads" terminology and wound up with a "cyclops eye" - if you know what I mean. Really couldn't find anything definitive that would explain where the use began - changed, and so forth. Seems to be a rather amorphous use - with railway pretty much the term used as a counterpart to highway. From what I've been able to ascertain, railway is the accepted form throughout most of the world - but in the US - it's been railroad for the most part - not exclusively, but seemingly with the majority of companies. <phew>

Rob was active yesterday, which is good to see - most likely he's "zonked" right now after a night at work. He's got a point with the vacation banter - some of us do have 365 days worth! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Enjoyed the "Peanut Line" and further elaboration on the use of those Superliners on the International. It surely would have made sense to use 'em for that route - but when it comes to Amtrak - that would surely be a surprise!

I too hope the info provided by CM3 regarding the Beach Grove facility in Indiana having repaired many of those Superliners is true. Again, my info came from these Forums and who knows what is fact from anecdotal to just plain BS Question [?] The railways from Georgia, albeit rather obscure - set the mind wonderin' just how many active roads did we have in the U.S. and Canada at one time Question [?] No answer expected - but there must have been at least a "skosh" of 'em! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Lars, that Post of yours really brought back some bittersweet recollections of 1957-58. When the Dodgers scrammed out of Brooklyn at the close of the season, one of my most favorite ballplayers - ever - Roy Campanella (perhaps the best NL catcher in decades) became wheel chair bound due to a most tragic auto accident iin January 1958. The sadness permeated throughout our family - we were ALL rabid - and I mean rabid - Dodger fans. A double whammy - the loss of the team and the loss of a great player and human being. He inspired so many after his accident that to this day I admire the manner in which he resumed what was left of his life.

Just caught this AMs contribution from CM3 - thanx for reminding me - I too neglected to mention how much I enjoyed that "red lead" story of the car painting episode from Left Coast Dave! Thumbs Up [tup]

Also, who wuddathunkit about the Steelers being blanked by anyone Question [?] Boring game - was switching back 'n forth between the Cards boring game with the Brewers and wound up Zzz [zzz] way before it was "time".

The Celtics of old - now you're really flicking my Bic! Used to travel up to the Gahden from GCT in NYC to catch the doubleheaders that the NBA used to schedule - anyone out there recall those Question [?] Yup - once upon a time that's what they did on Sundays. Anyway, the Celts were ALWAYS "my team" - what a bunch. Guess my role model was Cousy - given that he and I share one of life's similar "hands" - a great ball handler and gave us "vertically challenged" guys some hope. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Later on, when stationed in Bahston - one couldn't get any tickets to the games, unless they were obstucted view. "We takes what we gets" - really enjoyed the Bill Russell era - ah, what a team. Thumbs Up [tup]

The "Theme for the Day!" -  Railways of Great Britain . . . so let's see what we can come up with!

Boris - serve 'em up all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle. Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by coalminer3 on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:07 AM

Good Morning Barkeep and All Present; coffee, please, round for the house and $ for the jukebox.  Let's see, I think we'll play A-34, "If I Throw a Stick Will You Leave." 

I forgot to mention Dave's red lead story in my last post.  Thanks for sharing - reminds me of the old ad, "We'll paint any car." 

Rob gave us some classic steam, we had Barndad's beasties, and Lars with the sports report.  I am going to check out that link you provided.  When I said car builders, I meant something like Budd, ACF and P-S back in the day.  To ad to the list there are presently approx. 41 Amfleet I cars stored as well as at least one Viewliner.  It's enough to make you weep.

I see we are doing British railroads today, so I will assume my "watch and learn" posture at the bar.  Looking forward to today's posts.

Lars - Was it me or did the Steelers sleepwalk through that game last night?  I know it could have had something to do with the Jags defense.  Knicks RIP, how about the Celtics, the body's not even twitching!

NHL score (I know its preseason) but... Buffalo 4  Toronto 0

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 5:51 AM

Good morning Tom and all. I'll have a light breakfast please. Really enjoyed the VIA pix over the weekend from Tom and Rob, as well as the Northern Pacific ad from Tom and the Peanut Line from Rob. Peter posted some terrific steam pix from East Germany (please thank your friend Alan for me), and Mike had some real interesting CW-related URLs. Enjoyed comments from regulars CM3 and Lars too. Well done guys!

The "thingamajig", as you might have guessed, was from maintenance of way equipment, and is used for cutting brush

Nifty  ... eh? I'd love to see it in operation!

Ya'll have a great Tuesday. Just working one job today .... maybe.

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Posted by pwolfe on Monday, September 18, 2006 3:44 PM

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams please RUTH and a round please.

The puter as decided to work real slow so I will have to leave it till later to look at the linksSad [:(]

ROB Good to see the return of the Classic SteamsThumbs Up [tup]. Am I right in thinking PQ is QuebecQuestion [?]. The Peanut line lasted until fairly lately. It would good to see a pic of where the line met with the Street Railway.

LARS I was able to get a look at the link to the Colorado railcar site and they look some classy cars, lets hope they are able to interest Amtrak in them.

CM3 Thanks for the info on the Stored Superliners and the two short lines.

Thanks ALL for the comments on Alan's German photos. I have had to speak to him earlier today and I have some more info on the roundhouse at Chemnitz,it is indeed in the former East Germany its former name was Karl Marx Stadt. it is not far from the Checzslovakian border The two nearest big cities are Leipzig and Dresden.There are two half-roundhouses there one was containing old diesels, but were covered by a steam loco 89. 6009. the fireless loco in the background steamed the next day  and as Alan says "looked amazing".Alan said the  atmosphere at the roundhouse was like going back to British steam sheds in the 50s


TOM Thanks for the Northern Pacific Blast from the Past.Thumbs Up [tup] Do you know why some lines were known as Railways and others RailroadsQuestion [?].

The first trip I had on Amtrak was from Kansas City to St Louis at the end of 2000 and was in a Superliner and being used to the small cars in the UK was a marvellous experienceApprove [^], especially as  the countryside was covered in  heavy snow.

Looking forward to the Great Britain day tomorrow, I will put something on a GB Fallen Flag on the word and try not to delete it this timeClown [:o)].

Another pint please Ruth then.

Pete.   

 

 

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Posted by trolleyboy on Monday, September 18, 2006 12:46 PM

All right folks, time to get back into the swing of things as it were.It's been a while since I reagailed you with a classic tale of any discription or type.So without further adieu.

 

CLASSIC STEAM # 34 THE PEANUT LINE CPR's CORNWALL ROUTE

 

 Over the boom years of the railroad building boom in ontario, the province and country witnessed the chartering,surveying and in most cases the building of humndreds of small railway lines.In the early yeasr most of them actually operated as independant companies till various downturns in economies forced them to amalgamate or die.Even with this there were still dozens of other railway companies on paper, that were in fact just subsidiaries of the larger companies.The Peanut line is one of these.

  In 1910 the CPR had been limited to the number of railway charters that it could own.They still remained however anxious to keep adding to their network of branchlines in order to feed their mainlines throughout the country.One method they used to get around these restrictions was for private individuales ( paid by the CPR under the table  ) to establish a railway company on paper, obtain a provincial or federal charter and hopefully raise the start up funding and capitol. They would then lease this company to the CPR to operate it for 999 years.This was how the Peanut Line as it came to be known was started up.It ran from Cornwall Ontario to St Polycarpe PQ.

  From the start of the railway building boom the Grand Trunk had obtained a virtual monopoly along the north shore of Lake Ontario and the St Lawrence River. Through the various mergers and almalgamations of the small feeder lines through out this area.When the CPR decided to follow the lake shore they had to locate farther inland, and missed the key port cities of Kingston,Ganaoque,and Cornwall.To obtain lake access the CPR in the case of Kingston took over the Kingston and Pembrooke RY which was already an established resource railway.

  In the cas of the City of Cornwall, it was forced to create a dummy company.This Dummy corp was known as the Glengary and Stormont.The cahrter for the G&S laid out a 40 km ( 29 mile ) route from St Polycarpe Jct in Quebec which was on the CPR's Montreal mainline, to Cornwall where it would establish junction points with the GT and the New York Centrals Ottawa branchline.The line was finished in 1915 and was leased immediatly to the CPR.seven stations were built along the line.With main ones at St Polycarpe and Cornwall and small depots at Bridge End,North Lancaster,Glen Gordon,Williamstown, and Glenbrooke.Passenegr service was included in the CPR's daily mixed train from Montreal to Cornwall.

  It was a small resorce and farm product carrying line ( peanuts at the time being a major revenue sorce hence it's nickname )As small manufacturing plants came on line some finished products were carried as well. In Cornwall itself the line never actually reached the harbour it stopped at a station several miles away at pitt street, where it conected and exchanged passengers with the local street rialway the Cornwall Street Railway (CSR)A samll engine house and turntable as well as a freight shed wre built at this terminal point with the CSR.This yard also connected locally with the NYC and the GT.Passeneger servcie ended in 1952 and the CPR finally lifted the line entirly in 1990. The last ten or so years saw one or two local switching trains a day.

 

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Posted by trolleyboy on Monday, September 18, 2006 12:11 PM

Good aftrenoon Ruth nice to see your smiling face again.I think a number 4 and a Keith's will suffuce for me today.What ? Oh yes Boris it's nice to see the good side of your face as well <sheesh> Nick never should have given him those spa visits to H & H's house of ill rupute, I mean bakery / deli / spa on the main drag of the village.

Tom-Nice NP add.I think that tomorrows theme should work well too. I was originally going to suggust a pick your favourite and encore it week with so little prep time but I think that the roads of Great Britain ought to dredge up some good stuff Thumbs Up [tup]

  I'm not an Amtrak mover or shaker so I'm not sure why those superliners were on that train. I was told at the time by the local railfans that it was a fairly common occurance, since this was the To-Chicago train and it had  alot business type travellers on board,so they got the better equipment, again hard to say as I rarly got down that way to take pictures.

Lars-Morning or afternoon, I get confused when I'm offWink [;)]Whistling [:-^] It may seem like alot of vacation time but with our stress level it's a godsend.Mind you you and Tom are tow to talk don't you both have 365 days off now Question [?]Big Smile [:D]. I had to say that looking at Doug's shots of Woodstock that I can remember bits of Toronto having those fancy brick roads at one point ( long gone now maintenance nightmare )Even with as big as the city has become.You still see the various  neighbourhoods still go all out with decorations come Christmas time.BTW I got your email, you should have a responce even as I'm typing.

CM3-Interesting tech talk on how you've been able to skirt around the forum formatting issues. I'm not at all proficient with Word but I shall attempt that as well, thanks for the tip.Interesting info on those Southern feeder routes as well Thumbs Up [tup] I think we need to revisit the Southern in the upcomming weeks for one of our tuesday railroad themes.

Doug-You are going to have to bail us out buddy, I have no idea what that thingamagig is in that picture,are you sure that you photographed it right side upLaugh [(-D]I'm thinking that it's a piece of track maintenance equipment, but that's as close of a guess as I'm giving.

 

Back in a bit. Ruth another round fore da boyz if you don't mind, thanks.

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Posted by LoveDomes on Monday, September 18, 2006 10:23 AM
G'day Captain Tom and fellow travelers at the bar!

Set 'em up Ruth, a round on the Larsman! I'll take a #4, some hot "Joe" and a "splash" of whatever it is you give BK to help kick off my day!

Good to see so many fine posts this weekend and continuing into the start of the work week! Five weeks of vacation - my, my, my . . . . whatever happened to the 50 weeks per year "work ethic" Question [?] Only kidding, Rob . . .

I counted twelve wonderful pix from our Captain yesterday - twelve that are from his personal collection and free for those who browse, frequent this place, or just plain zip in 'n out. Great work, Tom! Thumbs Up [tup]

What's not to like about this joint, huh Question [?] Those street scenes provided by Doug really brought back some fine thoughts about "small town" USA. Many of you may not know this, but "the island" I inhabit was once nothing more than a series of small towns comprising the 5th Borough of the City of New York - then called the Borough of Richmond (aka: Staten Island). The main streets all had a similar look and when the Christmas holidays rolled around, the street lights all had wreaths or some other appropriate to the holiday decoration, with colored lights strung across the streets at all the poles. Small Town USA in the largest city in the US - now that's an oxymoron to some, but in fact existed in my lifetime. Thumbs Up [tup]

Don't know about the rest of you guys, but I'm sure pleased with the return of football to the Sunday landscape. The NFL has really spread out the games, so that one could begin around noon and keep at it 'til past bedtime! <grin>

Funny thing is I can enjoy most football games regardless of who is playing, whereas I can't do the same with other sports. For baseball it has to be "my" team - unless it's the playoffs - same for hockey and basketball, and I'm not really into "round ball" as much as I used to be. The Knicks of old - RIP.

Anyway, this talk of franchises moving and the almight buck - surely hits home. When the Brooklyn Dodgers and NY Giants skedaddled for the left coast at the end of the 1957 season it was all about the money. The Dodgers were not having turnstile problems, they wanted MORE than old Ebbetts Field could handle. The Giants had their ups 'n downs with the Polo Grounds turnouts, but were surely fixtures and doing well. The promise of "gold" in California sent 'em packing. So, what's new Question [?]

About passports: In my opinion, there should be a procedure available to allow for crossing the Canadian/US border for things like one-day visits without having to provide a passport. However, we live in far different times today than yesterday - there is a real threat to both countries and it isn't coming  from North America. Those bent on our demise are exploiting each and every weakness - the borders just being one example. So, I'm afraid that no matter what we'd prefer - and no matter what the cost - things will continue to change, not for convenience, but for necessity of the times we live in. That's my not-so-humble-opinion.

Nice idea for the "Theme Day" Captain Tom - RRs from Great Britain should bring something forth from Pete, maybe even Nick. Looking forward to the submissions . . .

CM3, I hope you are correct about the restoration of many of those Superliners at Beach Grove, Indiana, for those cars are Amtrak's final hope for continued long distance travel.

Insofar as no car manufacturers in the USA - how about the outfit in Colorado who makes DMUs and the "Ultra Domes" - single and double level carsQuestion [?] Alaska RR uses 'em as do the Cruise Ship lines for their "add on cars."

Check out: http://coloradorailcar.com/

(click "Tourism Coaches)

Enough of my ramblings this AM - got a rude awakening and hope to see things settle down as the day progresses.

As our Captain likes to say - see ya when the wind shifts (and don't use too much red lead on those eggs!)

Until the next time! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

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Posted by coalminer3 on Monday, September 18, 2006 9:16 AM

Good Morning Barkeep and All Present; coffee, please, round for the house and $ for the jukebox. 

 

Lots of comment today and then we’ll add some “new” material.

 

Tom provided us with lotsa cool pictures, an index, and new movies.  “Slippery Silks” is surreal in some spots – not that many of the Three Stooges offerings weren’t.  Re your comments on the NHL; $ my boy, $....Let’s play “Money Changes Everything” on the juke box.

 

The Buffalo Daily Whiz Bang has been running a series re plans to require passports for folks going to and from Canada.  My, won’t that put a twist in the Bills and Sabres.  It would cost us $400 to get passports, so I guess our Canadian trips will be a thing of the past.  One hopes that cooler heads will prevail.  I hope that I won’t have to shell out for a matching bag to go with my Bruins hat this year.  BTW, what ever happened to the Black Hawks? 

 

One last comment re passenger equipment; I think a lot of the backlog at Beech Grove has been put back into service.   The big problem is that there is no long-term funding so you can’t purchase cars to replace older equipment (all of which was purchased at the same time).  Also, since we have systematically dismantled the industrial structure of the Nation, nobody makes passenger cars here anymore.  O.K. Boris, you can put the leg irons away; that’s all I’m going to say.

 

Mike:  Interesting set of URLs.  The shot of Nashville is a good one as it shows what was in the “gulch” before it all got rebuilt.  The Tennessee capital bldg. is the large structure on the hill in the distance.  In a previous life I had plans to do a book on Tennessee RRs in the CW and Reconstruction, but life intervenes when you plan. 

 

Lars is with us!  Giants were on TV here yesterday, but the weather was too nice (plus mom had a long list of chores – she was going to stake me out in the yard if I didn’t deal with some housing issues for the K9 Korps; so I only got to see Washington and Dallas last night.  Anyway, we can raise a glass together.  It may have been ugly, but they all count.

 

Pete.  Thanks for sharing the German steam pictures.  I see where another post answered the AGEIR question you had. 

 

Rob sent more pictures and some comments re retirement.  I could go now, but I still feel as if I have a lot to contribute.  This is one job where experience has some value, thank the Lord.

 

Barndad sent us some interesting pictures as well.  I went to a CW reenactment in Phillipi earlier this year; and got to see a battery from Ohio fire one of those beasties.  Noise was tremendous echoing off of the hills.  There was all sorts of artillery there (both Federal and Confederate).

 

Technical talk, technical talk – you can skip to the next part of the post if you’re not interested.

 

Unlike the late lamented Word Perfect, Word (gotta love it) does not work all that well with columns.  So I put my data in tables.  The tables feature in word is tremendously powerful, so take a look at it and explore it a little.

 

I copy, cut and paste into a Word file, and then do a cut and paste into the post itself.   One other thing to do is to go to a REAL small font size in the document b4 you paste it in.  I don’t know why, but this seems to work with the forums. 

 

Herewith a couple of items from the shortline file.  Today, we go to Georgia.

 

Georgia Northern Ry Co.

Operated 68.0 miles between Boston and Albany(!), and 22 miles between Moultrie and Sparks.

Connections with SCL, G&F, A&N and GAS&C.

 

Georgia Ashburn, Sylvester and Camilla Ry (GAS Line)

Operated 51.0 miles between Ashburn and West Camilla

Connections with GS&F, SCL, and Georgia Northern

 

Albany and Northern (A&N) part of SOU operated 36.0 miles between Cordele and Albany

 

All for now

 

Work safe

 

P.S.  Thnaks for NP material, Tom. 

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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, September 18, 2006 9:06 AM
Tom's Blast from the Past - from page 145

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #12

Here’s something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with
Classic Trains. Check out this ad (from The Official Guide of the Railways – 1956)



Look what they’re saying about the Vista-Dome North Coast Limited!

”FOUR VISTA-DOMES . . .
the view really is terrific on the Northern Pacific!”

“Pride of the Northwest . . . a train second to none!”

“One of the top trains in the country”

“A LOVELY STEWARDESS-NURSE . . . so kind to me and my children”

“Most friendly and courteous employees”

“Comfortable trip – delicious meals. Our compliments to the chef”

“THE TRAVELLER’S REST buffet-lounge . . . most unique car we’ve ever seen . . . captures the flavor and romance of the West”

”WON’T YOU BE MY GUEST?”
Now a friendly Stewardess-Nurse welcomes you aboard the Vista-Dome North Coast Limited. You’ll enjoy extra traveling pleasure at no extra cost – in fact, even low Family Fares apply! Heading East or West through the scenic Northwest, you’ll see for yourself why passengers call it . . .

. . . . . One of the world’s Extra Fine trains . . . . .

. . . . . For complete information, write
. . . . . G. W. RODINE, Passenger Traffic Manager . . . . .
. . . . . Northern Pacific Railway, St. Paul 1, Minn. . . . . .

CHICAGO – TWIN CITIES – SPOKANE – PORTLAND – TACOMA – SEATTLE



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Posted by wanswheel on Monday, September 18, 2006 7:41 AM

Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the house.

Mets are stalled at one to clinch. They rather do it at Shea, that's fine.

Rob, halfway to 70, give me a break, you're younger than Amtrak. But be optimistic, you're one fifth of the way to 175. Just think like a B&O locomotive.

Al, do a data dump for old times sake.

Pete, does Alan ride through the Channel Tunnel to get to the Continent?

Dave, Pacific Electric pictures are fun because I get to see vintage automobiles.

Doug, that cannon in town is so cute it's almost easy to forget it was deadly.

CM3, thanks for the title, I'll look for it next library visit.

Railroads in the Civil War, article short enough to read quickly.

http://www.gatewaynmra.org/articles/civil-war1.htm

City Point, Va

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/cwpb/01800/01855v.jpg

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/cwpb/01800/01858v.jpg

J. H. Devereaux locomotive

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/ppmsca/07200/07295v.jpg

Edwin M. Stanton locomotive

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/ppmsca/07200/07291v.jpg

General Haupt locomotive

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/ppmsca/07200/07297v.jpg

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/ppmsca/07200/07293v.jpg

Orange & Alexandria RR near Union Mills, Va

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/cph/3g00000/3g04000/3g04500/3g04589v.jpg

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/cph/3g00000/3g07000/3g07900/3g07973v.jpg

Hanover Junction, PA, where Lincoln changed trains enroute to Gettysburg

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/cwpb/01500/01534v.jpg

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/cph/3a50000/3a50000/3a50400/3a50436r.jpg

Richmond

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/cwpb/02700/02706v.jpg

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/cwpb/02700/02709v.jpg

Manassas

http://aok.lib.umbc.edu/speccoll/imcatimages/77-12-009.jpg

http://aok.lib.umbc.edu/speccoll/imcatimages/77-12-010.jpg

Lookout Mountain, Chattanooga

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/cwpb/02100/02118v.jpg

Nashville

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/cwpb/02100/02110v.jpg

Harper's Ferry

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/cwpb/03800/03870v.jpg

http://aok.lib.umbc.edu/speccoll/imcatimages/77-12-026.jpg

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THEME for the Day! - THEME for the Day!


Tuesday's Railroad "theme" will be:
The Railways of Great Britain!



THEME for the Day! - THEME for the Day!


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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, September 18, 2006 7:24 AM
G'day Gents!

A fne Sunday Photo Poting Day! here at the watering hole! Glad you guys enjoyed my VIA Rail shots - there'll be more of 'em in weeks to come. Thumbs Up [tup] Good to see Pete 'n Lars round out the day with Rob adding his late nite remarks to close out the day! Thumbs Up [tup]

Really enjoyed those roundhouse Pix from Germany's steam locos. Pete, I think your friend has done a great job providing you (and us) with visuals from his rail ventures. Appears as if there's a bit of curiousity working regarding the location of that roundhouse - what major German city is it closest to Question [?] Good stuff! Thumbs Up [tup]

Superliners on the International Question [?] Wow!! [wow] That's a surprise to me - not that I'm an expert, but every time I researched that train the info that came back listed much older, single level equipment. Anyway, those cars are a treat to travel aboard, especially the Sightseer Lounge and Diner (which I seriously doubt was in the consist for the International). My guess is that they had to replace the older Horizon equipment on a temporary basis with the Superliners. That happens every now 'n then down this way - in winter especially, when freezing problems crop up with the older cars. I've traveled to KCity and back aboard the Superliners and man oh man what a surprise and what a significant change to the experience.

Sad to say - and this is dated information - but over 100 of those cars are layed up in Amtrak's Indiana facility because of assorted levels of damage and needed repair. No funds - so they sit and deterioriate or get cannibalized. Awful situation. Last I heard is that one more major passenger rail accident and a long-distance train will have to be curtailed - that's how critical the Superliner inventory has been and remains.

Five weeks of vacation time with "only" 18 years on the job Question [?] Pretty generous benefit package, I'd say! Most of my leave was taken in conjuction with transfers to this place or that. Hardly ever used my leave for anything involving fun. Had to take it over weekends and holidays as well - which I always thought was grossly unfair. But - such is life in the military. They say "30 days" a year - but when you back out weekends - well - do the arithmetic. No complaints mind you - but it hardly wasn't what it was billed to be.

Another one of my guesses regarding those who made the decision to purchase the "Renaissance" equipment is that the "Ottawa crowd" will never admit they made a huge mistake. The "Chunnel Chuggers" have not and will not measure up to the Budd equipment and the traveling public has said so. Further, if only those in charge were more PRO passenger rail than not, maybe - just maybe - other options could have been entered into.

Okay boyz - have a good day and Boris - serve 'em up all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!

Reminder: All drinks are on Rob today thru Wednesday! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]


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Posted by trolleyboy on Sunday, September 17, 2006 11:26 PM

A quick good evening to all. Seems lie a few more have slipped in on this I would say fairly active Sunday Thumbs Up [tup] for that one guys.

Tom-Yes that is the train that Scott said was ours.Must have been sun shinning jusyt over his head that dayWink [;)]Confused [%-)]. I'm not sure what the train number was on that superlinner train. I shot that picture at Komoka Ontario which is just outside of London ( windsor side ) It's the International from Chicago. VIA would pick up the cars from Amtrak and bring it accross the boarder and run the set through to Toronto.Now I shot that one in it had to be 96 or 97. We were at te Komoka train show which was in the old freight shed and station at Komoka which is now a small ( was then too ) rail museum.Komoka is not used as a stop by VIA so all the trains just run through from points farther south Sarnia or Windsor. I've not really thought of superlinners as replacements for the Budd equipment. It would seem to me to be a logical choice, although gov. bodies never make the logical choice do they,hence the "chunnel chuggers".

Lars-Soooo more penance for me yet to come eh Question [?] oh well could be worse. Oh and yes I do get 5 weeks of vacation, mind you I've done my job for 18 years now and counting. It has the good with the bad same as anthingy else.Sigh [sigh]Only 30 more till I retire ! Shock [:O]  I have a bit of the library left so no fear I'll have some pretty pictures that no one can complain about.

Pete- Wonderfull spread of German steam from your friend.Nice to see that many in operable condition.I'd hazzard a guess that these were taken and running in what was formerly East GermanyQuestion [?] Still that much steam no matter what the guage and or vintage is always nice to seeApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]

Catch everyone later , remember rounds on me the next two or three days !

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Posted by LoveDomes on Sunday, September 17, 2006 7:10 PM
G'day Captain Tom and fellow travelers waiting for the bar to open!

Thought I'd slip this throught the mail slot on the front door just to let one and all know that the Larsman is alive 'n well! Thumbs Up [tup] My Giants won! My Giants won and against Philadelphia at that and in overtime!! You gotta love it. Caught the KC Chief's loss in OT to Denver. Rotten shame how that rule is - I think both teams ought to be guaranteed at least one possession in OT - otherwise, well it smacks of too little, too late . . . Also saw that the Rams dropped one to the 49ers - take heart, it's early, early, early. But still great to view! Thumbs Up [tup]

Sign - Welcome [#welcome] Back to trolleyboy Rob. You have more vacation time amassed in your young working life than I had in my entire career - or so it seems. What did I do wrong Question [?] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] I see where "the committee" let you "skate" on the alleged infractions. Well - fine - HOWEVER, I'm the Manager of this place and we've got some unfinished business, Herr Bar Chandler! <oooooooooooooh>

Great stuff, as always from our leader and I gotta admit to really enjoy seeing those Via Rail locos and car interiors. Also appreciate your "digs" to those who are so &#^% sensitive and selfish with the cyber renditions of their pix. I'm still rather amiss regarding whether I'll resume my activity. Not really gun shy, but wonder whether it's worth the consternation that may follow . . .

Good to see Doug's submission and I also liked that cartoon caption! Haven't a clue what that machine is - but my vote goes to Captain Tom's explanation! Thumbs Up [tup]

Nice stuff from you too, Rob - keep it coming. We can use all the pix you guys with libraries can muster up! Thumbs Up [tup]

Finally, Pete's entry from Germany was and is fantastic! Steam locos in a roundhouse. Now who wuddathunk that you could actually find something like that in an operating condition these days Question [?] I enjoyed them all and hope you'll relay my Five Thumbs Up [tup] salute! Thumbs Up [tup]  Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] to your mate!

Until Monday! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

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Posted by pwolfe on Sunday, September 17, 2006 5:10 PM

Hi Tom and all.

Good Encore day yesterdayThumbs Up [tup].

Thanks Doug for the Woodstock cafe info and Tom for the encores and the link to the AGEIR site, it is a wealth of info into the early days of diesel-electrics with some great pics as well. Love those 20 ton Box-CabsYeah!! [yeah].

Great news with Rob back and Al coming back soon.

Another good week at the Emporium and a good photo Sunday. Woodstock looks a great town Doug and some great Canadian pics from Tom and RobThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup].

This weeks photos from Alan are from his recent trip to Germany. Alan as supplied some notes as I have to confess I know very little about the railways thereAshamed [*^_^*].

These two are at SCHONHEIDE There is a standard guage freight line near here and an abandoned part of the narrow guage crossed over it.


The next three are at the roundhouse at CHEMNITZ, there was a cavalcade of locos on the following dayWow!! [wow].




It is hard to believe that scenes such as these can be photographed in 2006. it must have been great to have been there. Hopefully they will enlarge.

Tom are you watching the ChiefsQuestion [?]

Pete.



 

 

 

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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, September 17, 2006 4:55 PM
Even though the bar is CLOSED on SUNDAY's -
We do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!

Rob - some really fine Pix - love that F40PH in the CBC livery; never saw it B4! Thumbs Up [tup] Also, that VIA Rail at Branford with the "May" date - isn't that the one your hobby shot friend said was "our" train Question [?] Ain't so - it WAS overcast and drizzling when we arrived. Anyway - it IS a nice shot! Thumbs Up [tup] Noted that VIA was pulling AMTRAK Superliners. Do you know where that shot was taken and what the train was Question [?] I've always thought that Superliner equipment would be a great replacement for the Budd streamliners - when and if the time rolls around - after all, Bombardier made 'em. Curious minds need to know! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Good to have you back amongst the "regulars"!!

Now - just a few more of my "favorite things" . . . . then it's back to NFL football Sunday! Thumbs Up [tup]

VIA Rail's Evangaline Park car in Montreal's Central Station



VIA Rail's Evangaline Park car "Mural Lounge"



VIA Rail's Evangaline Park car "Mural Lounge" service bar



VIA Rail's Evangaline Park car passageway - bedrooms to the right afer "Mural Lounge"


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Posted by trolleyboy on Sunday, September 17, 2006 4:24 PM

Tom-Oh just a thought. I aggree with you about the future of the NHL. I can think of at least 7 teams that have no business being in the league. As too Hamilton one would think it would be a slam dunk no brainer, same as Winnipeg for that matter. But what do we know we are after all the great ignorant unwashed that pay their prices. Thumbs Down [tdn]Sigh [sigh]

Two or three more shots then I'm off to cook a couple of steaks nice 80 degree day here today Thumbs Up [tup]

Home Hardware painted F40 at Bayview June 1994 

Go transit Hamilton bound at Bayview jct June 1994

Go's Milton line trainsets at Guelph jct July 1995

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Posted by trolleyboy on Sunday, September 17, 2006 4:13 PM

Okay a few passenger train shots I've snapped over the last ten years or so. In keeping with Tom's offerings of today.

The old VIA international limited at Komoka just outside of London Ontario c1997

Two shots of the VIA rail F40 painted in the CBC scheme. Brantford Ontario just this past April

VIA train 79 arriving Brantford May 2006

enjoy Rob

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Posted by trolleyboy on Sunday, September 17, 2006 4:06 PM

Good aftrenoon gentleman's and Boris.Just thought I would make an appearance at a  more civil hour.Smile [:)]nice crop of shots from Tom and Doug today,and all none contendable ones too Thumbs Up [tup] Good thing just in case the forum police are watchingShy [8)]Blush [:I].

Tom-Loved the "reshows" of your classic VIA and passenger shots from vacations past Thumbs Up [tup] also any of the city slickers movies are a okay with meApprove [^]Wow!! [wow]. The trick to the formatting ( you are not going to like it ) I type everything new right into the reply window and use the format tools on the forums toolbar. I've not been able to cut and paste stuff successfully and use their toolbar with anything yet.

I was looking forward to using that chickenwire too.maybe and addition to H&H's little dress shop of horoors on the main street of the villiageEvil [}:)]Shock [:O]Mischief [:-,]

Doug-Loved your shots today too,espeacially the two humour pictures, that picture of the poor conductor checking out the ah caboose is espeacially good Thumbs Up [tup] I'm gald to hear that you are looking forward to your unhindered return to the forums regularly. That's only good news for the rest of us. Thumbs Up [tup]

 

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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, September 17, 2006 3:09 PM
Even though the bar is CLOSED on SUNDAY's -
We do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!


Doug - of course we know what that contraption is . . . . it's a thingy that undoes the watchamacallit unless it is doing it! <grin>

Love the caption on the cartoon - very, very appropriate and oh so true of all professional sports! Yeah!! [yeah]

A few more of my favorite things . . . . (all MY photos - so NO ONE can be offended!) Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

VIA Rail's Ocean at Halifax, NS



VIA Rail's Ocean F40PHs at Halifax, NS



VIA Rail's LRC at Ottawa, ON



VIA Rail's P42DC and Train #33 at Ottawa, ON



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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 17, 2006 10:05 AM

Great pix Tom. Here are some more pix of the town of Woodstock. We actually have a distinctive square. You might even remember seeing some of these buildings in the Movie "Groundhog Day".

Approaching the square. Notice the brick streets

Entering the square

One gazebo and the civil war memorial

The other gazebo in the square. Classic music plays throughout the square

This replica 1841 mountain Howitzer was the type of cannon used by McHenry County infantry troops during the civil war 1861-1865. It's short range and manueverability made it ideal for the rugged terrain and close combat situations.

I had better sneak a train-related picture in here. Any idea what this is?

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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, September 17, 2006 9:38 AM

Even though the bar at "Our" Place is CLOSED on SUNDAYS -

We do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!

 

Although these most probably have been viewed on earlier Pages, they remain some of "my favorite things" and worthy of taking another look  . . . . (Plus they are MINE with no fear of hurt feelings, etc. over their display!)

 

Pacific Central Station in Vancouver, BC

 

 

GO Transit in Toronto, ON

 

 

Mt. Robson in the Canadian Rockies

 

VIA Rail's Glacier Park car at Sioux Lookout, ON

 


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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, September 17, 2006 8:42 AM

Even though the bar at "Our" Place is CLOSED on SUNDAYS -

We do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!

 

 

NOW PLAYING at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!

 

 

. . . Sunday, September 17th thru 23rd: City Slickers II (1994) Starring: Billy Crystal, Jack Palance & John Lovitz – and - Crocodile Dundee II (1988) Starring: Paul Hogan & Linda Kozlowski. SHORT: Slippery Silks (1936)

 

 

City Slickers II – The Legend of Curly’s Gold (1994)

PLOT SUMMARY: The second part of City Slickers begins after the death of Curly. It is the 40th birthday of Mitch Robbins and the day begins quite good until he returns home (after a hard day at the radio station) and finds his brother Glen, the black sheep of the family, in his sofa. Nevertheless he is about to have a wonderful birthday-night with his wife when he discovers a treasure map of Curly by chance. Together with Phil (from the first part) and unfortunately with Glen he tries to find the hidden gold of Curly's father in the desert of Arizona instead of attending a meeting in Las Vegas. The adventurous journey reveals many surprises until everything seems to be over when the map gets lost...

 

from: www.imdb.com

 

Crocodile Dundee II (1988)

PLOT SUMMARY: Mick and Sue continue where they left off in "'Crocodile Dundee". New York gangsters are pursuing Sue, so for her safety, Mick takes her back to Oz. When the gangsters follow them, Mick demonstrates his outback skills once more.

 

from: www.imdb.com

 

SHORT: Slippery Silks (1936)

 

PLOT SUMMARY: Featuring Moe, Larry and Curly

Mr. Morgan borrows a valuable antique Chinese cabinet worth $50,000 from the museum, wanting an exact duplicate made, only to have three bungling carpenters (the Stooges) destroy it. After the Stooges flee, they find that they've inherited their Uncle Pete's dress shop, the "Madame de France." Mrs. Morgan has the new owners put on a fashion show for her friends, where Mr. Morgan finds the vandals who ruined the cabinet and exacts his revenge!

 

from: www.threestooges.net
 

 

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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, September 17, 2006 8:34 AM

G'day Gents!

It's Sunday breakfast - brunch 'n lunch 'til 2 PM! So, c'mon in and enjoy the banter! Thumbs Up [tup]

What to my aging eyes should appear Question [?] Several Posts from trolleyboy Rob! He's baaaaaaack and forgiven! Yes - "the Committee" has suspended its investigation in light of Rob's willingness to accept the responsibility for leaving many of us in the lurch - so to speak. That - plus buying the drinks on Monday - Tuesday 'n Wednesday clearly puts him back in good graces! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Welcome back, Bar Chandler - and of course you do NOT qualify for remuneration from the "tub" for days missed at work! <grin> Sign - Welcome [#welcome] Back! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Now - we are NOT going to erect a chicken wire contraption for the "critters" With a thousand smackers in the bank - we will go 1st Class! The Bar Manager and Proprietor have overrulled in this matter! Sorry 'bout that! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Good seeing Left Coast Dave pop in on Saturday with a most inclusive Post! Thumbs Up [tup] Got a kick out of your commentary and enjoyed your "educational" info as well. Pacific Electric LIVES! Thumbs Up [tup]

Doug from the barnyard - as always, good to have you onboard and providing some fine input for our Sunday Photo Posting Day! Love that "funny" - I recall once upon a time when checking out the stern section of a lovely thing while walking in opposite directions - crashing into a parking meter. Felt like  a &#^$ fool, not to mention turning beet red when several people saw me do it! Happens. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Rob - it appears that you and coalminer3 CM3 have come up with a way to circumvent the formatting problems on the Forums. That Index of yours looks great - so what's the secret Question [?] Ship me an Email - I'd love to know . . . .

A word on the NHL - screw Buffalo and Toronto with any "concerns" they have over putting a team in Hamilton. These guys simply don't get it - what's the point in maintaining franchises that run in the red - season after season Question [?] I think the REAL ANSWER is not to move these "weak sisters" but to close 'em up. That's the way to do it - trim ship - the league has far too many teams in far too many places that once the luster wore off just can't keep up the required financial pace.

Now, having said all of that - I'd love to see Hamilton with a franchise. It's a hockey city in a hockey Province in a hockey country. A no brainer, fer sure, fer sure! Thumbs Up [tup]

Given that this IS Sunday and the bar is CLOSED - I'll go my way and hope y'all have a good day!

Boris - keep the food coming, coffee fresh 'n hot and Mentor Village Bakery case stocked . . .

Watch for the featured flicks at the Emporium Theatre! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

 

Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 17, 2006 7:00 AM

Good morning one and all, and especially Rob! Man .. when you return, you really return! I too am looking forward to a retuen of my own. Worked jobs 1 & 2 for a while yesterday, and will work jog 2 today. It's cloudy as heck out here, but I'll slip out to the contruction site and see if anything was accomplished yesterday. Before leaving, here's a little something that would have been shared on theme day

Business car No. 120 of the Kansas City, Fort Smith & SOuthern was named "Bird in Hand." The railroad was founded in 1887 by Matthias Splitlog, a wealthy Indian chief, and in 1893 it bacame part of the Kansas City, Pittsburg & Gulf, which in turn became the Kansas City Southern in 1900. Car No. 120 was built by Jackson & Sharp at their Wilminton, Del. plant in 1889; this photo is from the builder's glass plate negative.

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Posted by trolleyboy on Sunday, September 17, 2006 1:21 AM

ENCORE ! ENCORE ! ENCORE ! ENCORE ! ENCORE ! ENCORE ! ENCORE !

A classic index update to get everything back into it's proper place,This is a new format as reformatting the old one was beyond my comprehension, wiht the new and improved forum software.

 

CLASSIC ADS

  • #1 National Geographic CNR Article c1929 pg# 209
  • #2 CN Hotels Ad pg# 209
  • #3 TH&B Doodlebug Ad pg# 153
  • #4 NYC Empire State Ad pg# 249
  • #5 Super Continental Ad pg# 270
  • #6 CNR / GTR 1941 Passenger train Ad pg# 270
  • #7 CNR Spans the World Ad pg # 311

 

CLASSIC DIESELS

  • #1 Southern Pacific pg # 254
  • #2 Nort American diesel builders pt 1 pg #254
  • #3 N A Diesel Builders pt 2 pg # 256
  • #4 N A Diesel Builders pt 3 pg # 259
  • #5 The NP c1960 pg # 260
  • #6 BC Rail Tumbler Ridge pg # 262
  • #7 BC Rail 1993 roster pg # 262
  • #8 The CF7 rebuilds pg # 263
  • #9 Seaboard RY Friegth synopsis pg # 268
  • #10 HBRY Churchill Man pg # 278
  • #11 D&RGW roster pg # 282
  • #12 ICG GP rebuilds pg # 283
  • #13 C&NW GP rebuilds pg # 283
  • #14 Locomotive rebuilders pt 1 pg # 284
  • #15 Locomotive rebuilders pt 2 pg # 284
  • #16 Locomotive rebuilders pt 3 pg # 286
  • #17 Locomotive rebuilders pt 4 pg # 288
  • #18 More Locomotive rebuilders pt 1 pg # 311
  • #19 More Locomotive rebuilders pt 2 pg # 313
  • #20 CB&Q E 5's pg # 321
  • #21 The RS2 Rebuilds pg # 323
  • #22 Burlington Zephers pg # 326 
  • #23 Robot Cars pg # 331
  • #24 D&H Passenger Service pg # 332
  • #25 B&O Passenger E's pg # 339
  • #26 The Lagan Sub pg # 349
  • #27 MEC Mailtrains pg # 353
  • #28 Oposed Pistons on the NYC pg # 381
  • #29 C&NW Recycled Baldwin's pg # 385  
  • #30 New Haven Passenger Ops pg # 389   

   

CLASSIC JUICE

  • #1 The L&PS pg # 116
  • #2 The NS&T pg # 123
  • #3 The MS&C pg # 131
  • #4 The B&H pg # 134
  • #5 The B&WSR pg # 142
  • #6 The Nearside Car pg # 146
  • #7 Peter Witt Car pg # 148
  • #8 The PCC Car pg # 157
  • #9 The Nippissing Central pg # 140
  • #10 The Saftey Car pg # 162
  • #11 CNR Electric Lines pg # 163
  • #12 The Toronto Civic RY pg # 180
  • #13 The Toronto Civic RY's Cars pg # 180
  • #14 The Toronto Suburban RY pg # 211
  • #15 CDN Streetcar Builders pg # 212
  • #16 US Streetcar Builders pg # 217
  • #17 CPR Electric pt 1 The GRR pg # 223
  • #18 CPR Electric pt 2 The LE&N pg # 224
  • #19 The BCER pg # 225
  • #20 The Hamilton Incline RY's pg # 242
  • #21  Pre History of The TTC pt 1 pg # 248
  • #22 Pre History of The TTC pt 2  pg # 249
  • #23  Pre Hictory of The TTC pt 3 pg # 249
  • #24 Catartact Lines pt 1 pg # 294
  • #25 Cataract Lines pt 2 pg #  294
  • #26 Great Gorge Route pg # 295
  • #27 WP Electric Lines pg # 314
  • #28 Brantford Street railway pg # 346
  • #29 The Hamilton street railway pg # 359
  • #30 The CSR pg # 360
  • #31 The Lost Electrics of SW Ontario pt 1 pg # 382
  • #32 The Lost Elelctrics of SW Ontario pt 2 pg # 383
  • #33 The Lost Electrics of SW Ontario pt 3 pg # 384
  • #34 The Chicago New York Airline RR pg # 388    

 

CLASSIC STEAM

  • #1 Huntsville sub pg # 159
  • #2 Alliston Sub pg # 163
  • #3 Strathroy sub pg # 165
  • #4 N Falls Passenger Trains pg # 170
  • #5 Passenger trains on Brampton and Thorndale subs pg # 170
  • #6 The Roustabout pg # 176
  • #7 Passenger trains at Palmersyton pg # 183
  • #8 SO Railmap pg # 183
  • #9 Speacial frieghts pt 1 pg # 191
  • #10 Speacial freights pt 2 pg # 191
  • #11 Passenger train profiles pt 1 pg # 198
  • #12 Passenger train profiles pt 2 pg 198
  • #13 Formation of the CNR pg # 218
  • #14 Canada Southern St Clair branch pg # 226
  • #15 History of CN passenger service pg # 228
  • #16 Southern preserved steam pg # 276
  • #17 The Stratford & Huron pg # 279
  • #18 The Toronto Grey and Bruce RY pg # 281
  • #19 Booze Line pg # 289
  • #20 The BBG RY pg # 290
  • #21 The Huntsville and Lake of Bays RY pg # 295
  • #22  The Ottawa Arnprior & Parry Sound RY pg # 309
  • #23 The AER pg # 310
  • #24 The Central Ontario Ry pg # 326
  • #25 TH&B's Berkshires pg # 358
  • #26 NKP Passenger Service pg # 358
  • #27 The Thousand isl RY pg # 360
  • #28 The Drowned RY pg # 360
  • #29 BOQ RY pg # 364
  • #30 Bruce Mines & Algoma RY pg # 365
  • #31 TH&B's waterford sub pg # 371
  • #32 The Prot Dover & Stratford RY pg # 378
  • #33 The LS&J pg # 378 

 

Wierd Tales from The Trolley Barn

  • #1 The Trolley and Teddy Roosevelt pg # 354
  • #2 Wierd trolleys pt 1 pg # 354
  • #3 ASRA Rules pt 1 pg # 355
  • #4 MTC Events pt 1 pg # 358
  • #5 Odd trolley Srories pt 1 pg # 377
  • #6 Odd trolley Stories pt 2 pg # 377 
  • #7 Trolley Parks & Songs pg # 386

There we have it the "new" research guide according to Rob

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