G'day Captain Tom and fellow travelers at the bar!
Ruth my deAH, you are a wonder to behold and . . . . lemme have a frosty mug of Keiths, a hero sandwich - ham, Swiss, mustAHd 'n buttAH with two pickles from the barrel and a saucer of brine for Tex the Armadillo!
A bit of activity late yesterday spurred by the reappearance of our "drifter" - trolleyboy Rob, occasional Bar Chandler and Ontario representative!
Also sent an e-mail to James (using the forum's system) . . . .
Nick, it appears you have gotten 'round the bases and are now "in" for Sunday Pix Day! Nice looking stuff from your Ireland venture and we look forward to more . . .
Good to see the "Theme for the Day!" get such a fine kickoff with Tom's contribution of an "oldie" followed up by CM3 I'm Not Shane! with his D&H "connection" then back to Tom and those fine looking heralds. Good job, guys!
Ruth, set 'em up on me while they check out some "videos" appropriate for this "Theme Day!"
VIA Fs in the Rockies video
F-Units Winter in Canada video
I'll be back with more later one . . . .
Lars
THEME for the Day! - THEME for the Day!
Canadian Passenger Railways
Some heralds to appreciate . . .
Canadian National
Canadian Pacific
Grand Trunk (includes freight)
VIA Rail
Dominion Atlantic
Windsor & Handsport
Halifax & South-Western
Newfoundland
Canadian Northern
Northern Alberta
Pacific Great Eastern
British Columbia
Enjoy!
Tom
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. This is just a quick stop as we are off to the great outside again today> I'll try and stop by later on, but here is my submission for today's theme. It deals with Us-Canadian service on the Delware and Hudson as it was "in the day." Have a good one.
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The Delaware and Hudson is remembered as an anthracite railroad and as a carrier of bridge line freight traffic, and a home for rare and exotic locomotives. In 1930, however, the D&H had extensive main line and branch line passenger traffic. This piece concerns passenger operations on the Champlain and Saratoga Divisions of the D&H.
This part of the railroad ran north from Albany to Canada through Mechanicville, Saratoga Springs, Fort Edward, and Whitehall. The next stations were familiar to students of American history; Fort Ticonderoga, Crown Point, Port Henry, and Westport. The scenic highlight of the trip was the run along Lake Champlain, near Willsboro. Next came Port Kent and Plattsburg. Approximately 20 miles north of Plattsburg was Rouses Point and the Canadian border. It took about 90 minutes for trains to run between Rouses Point and Montreal via the tracks of the Napierville Junction Railway.
So much for geography. Where did the trains come from? The New York Central was the originating carrier. They handed trains off to the D&H at Albany and the D&H carried them between Albany and Montreal’s Windsor Station. The Canadian Pacific provided connecting service to Ottawa and Quebec and Montreal.
Trains 35, 9, and 7 handled traffic northward to Canada on the D&H.
Train 35, the “Laurentian,” departed New York’s Grand Central Terminal at 9:45 a.m. and left Troy at 1:00 p.m. The train stopped at Saratoga Springs and hour later and departed Fort Edward at 2:31 p.m. Leaving Whitehall at 3:05 p.m., and Plattsburg at 5:35 p.m. A seven-minute stop, and the “Laurentian” was on its way at 6:18 p.m. for a 7:45 p.m. arrival in Montreal. Train 35 carries a club car and parlor cars from New York to Montreal. Diners ran between New York and Saratoga Springs and Whitehall and Montreal. Through coaches operated from New York to Montreal.
Train 9, the “Montreal Limited,” was an all-Pullman overnight train from New York to Montreal. It left New York at 9:45 p.m. and arrived in Montreal at 7:50 a.m. A New York-Montreal club car served breakfast into Montreal. New York-Montreal sleepers included five 12 section/drawing room cars, and a 10-compartment sleeper. Additional Pullmans included 10 section/2 drawing room/compartment cars from New York to Ottawa and New York to Quebec City.
Train 7 was an all stops overnight local leaving New York at 8:00 p.m.. It picked up a 12 section/drawing room car for Montreal at Albany, and set out a 12 section/drawing room car from New York at Whitehall en route. Train 7 arrived in Montreal at 8:35 a.m.
Southbound, traffic from Canada traveled on D&H trains 34, 8, and 10.
Train 34, the “Laurentian,” departed Montreal at 10:00 a.m. with an 8:05 p.m. arrival in New York. Its consist included a club car, parlor cars and coaches from Montreal to New York. Diners ran from Montreal to Whitehall and Saratoga Springs to New York.
Train 8 left Montreal at 7:30 p.m. with a 7:25 a.m. arrival in New York. This train handled a variety of Pullmans including 12 section/drawing room cars from Montreal to New York, Plattsburg to New York, and Fort Edward to New York.
Train 10, the “Montreal Limited,” left Montreal at 8:00 p.m. and pulled into Grand Central Terminal (New York) at 7:25 a.m. It carried a club car from Montreal to New York, 10 section/ 2 drawing room/compartment cars from Quebec and Ottawa to New York, and five 10 section/2 drawing room sleepers from Montreal to New York.
THEME for the DAY! - THEME for the DAY!
from page 172
PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #30 Here’s something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with Classic Trains. Check out this advertisement regarding the Canadian Pacific from 1950: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Let yourself go! . . . . . . . . . . See big beautiful CANADA in armchair ease Salty vacation? It’s at The Algonquin, St. Andrews-by-the-Sea, New Brunswick . . . . 2 seaside golf courses, swimming, sailing. Or across Bay of Fundy waits The Digby Pines, at Digby, Nova Scotia – heaps of family fun! Either place, you’re in the good carte of Canadian Pacific. Like “another world” city? See friendly Old Québec. Ride in a Calèche. Shop winding streets. Visit Ste. Anne de Beaupré or isle d'Orléans! Relax gaily in luxury at Canadian Pacific’s great Château Frontenac! All the talk’s about Canada – land of vacations unlimited! See it from the Atlantic to the Pacific – by Canadian Pacific train with picture-window views. Enjoy real hospitality at fine Canadian Pacific hotels. See the skyscraper Canadian Rockies – by Canadian Pacific, Diesel train. Stop over at Banff and Lake Louise, the area for breeze-swept Victoria, British Columbia – stay at the famous Empress Hotel. Revel in the roses. Go sightseeing, shopping. Sporty golf courses . . . swim in Crystal Garden, world’s largest enclosed sea pool. Enjoy climate like springtime all year ‘round. Ask your own agent about fast Empress airliners to the Far East, New Zealand and Australia . . . cruise by “Princess” to Alaska . . . sail to Europe in White Empress style. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Canadian Pacific . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Canada is news! See it by Canadian Pacific . . . . . . . . . . Enjoy! Tom
G'day Gents!
Some fine Posts last evening into the wee hours as Pete provided one of his typical inclusive Posts - James (CMSTPP) made a visit (and by the by - you should have received an Email from me via your Forums address) - Manager Lars provided us with an updated "the way things are" - Chief Chef Nick demonstrated his mastery of the Pix Posting technique with 5 fine photos, with narratives, from his Ireland trip - and Bar Chandler Rob made yet another return from the Legion of the Lost.
Some back slapping regarding our reaching the 400th page - a long climb since our humble beginnings. Many have come 'n gone, but we're still here - keeping to the premise that ours is an inclusive Thread where the guys interact by acknowledging one another's contributions while engaging in dialogue about "Classic Trains" - real 'n model.
Today is our "Theme for the Day!" - Canadian Passenger Railways, which should generate some interesting material from those who regularly participate.
Boris - ring the bell and serve 'em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!
Later . . .
Oops. I'd almost forgotten. Leon a round for the happy first 400 of the saloon along the siding. Oh and one more round for the next 400. We may have our slow times and our busy times. But at least all the stuff is relevant and beyonfd excellant. Thanks for the first 400 their Captain Tom and the crew. Boris ring the fog horn .
Rob
Well , good evening Leon, just one frosty one for me tonight please. Well finally the midnights are behind me and I've got myself back into the normal day / night rythm ( at least for me )
Some good stuff the last couple of days ( daze ) that I have missed, which is nice to see
Tom & James and Lars wonderfull synopsis on the once mighty , but still pretty huge EMD, some great info from all three of you gentlemen.i've always been sad that Alco went the way of the Dodo, but at least EMD's still wtih us. I've never really liked GE's stuff either from their early days to today,none of them have those "classic lines"
Tom-I thouroughly enjoyed yourr erunning of the TGV series, oh to think that we on this side of the globe could have had that sort of travel system I'm looking forward to the "morrow's" Canadian Passenger Rail fest, hopefully with Al's brief appearance we may get the odd data dump for old times sake.
Doug-Great Canadian pix, yesterday, and your new home town and home look marvelous to quote Billy Crystal
Nick -Any transgressions on the scenery in my home province are forgiven. Actually that type of scenery is not all that far off from the Bradford Barrie area, as you are starting to get into some sheild type terraine. I'm glad to see that the photo posting tutorials Pete and Tom have provided have gotten us aniother picture posting happy member.
BK-Thanks for posting the history of the Canadian Thanksgiving, it does not quite launch the shopping frenzy that the US Thanksgiving does, but it does get one thinking of turning on the Furnace and getting ready for the impeneding festive season and winter ahead.Contrastingly it ends Canada'a second "season " construction. As everytone knows we only have two season's up here Winter & Construction
Well, I'm away to prepare my material for tomorrow.I will launch it in the evening when I return from work. Gawd it's niece to be back in the daylight at work
Well good evening gentlemen all.
A round for the house please Leon and shots of the special rum to celebrate page 400-yet another milestone.
Apologies for recent absense but we have had a weekend of Wagnerian thunderstorms and concomitant power outages so,as alluded to in my brief dispatch the other night,I have been reluctant to risk frying the `puter with a power surge-also my workshop (the lowest point on the property,in more senses than one)took some heavy flooding so I have been a touch pre-occupied of late ....
On the plus side,I think I may have finally cracked this photobucket thing ( big thanks to both TOM & MIKE the URL king of Canada for pointing me in the right direction...bigto you both.
In fact,I`m so full of it I am going to risk outraging the sensibilities of the house by diving straight into picture posting and leave the interactive bit until later ( its a new toy thing-come on,we`ve all been there) I know it`s not sunday but it`s page 400-lets party.
So-without further ado:-
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Here,in its (hopefully) full sized glory is the Dublin-Tralee service leaving the headshunt at Killarney after setting back out of the bay platform road (to the right of the camera)..The signal is the main platform starter with a `feather` route indicator to show access to the headshunt-when activated ,the main signal will only show a yellow aspect to indicate a terminal road ahead.
Looking in the other direction, here we have:-on the left,the recently arrived Tralee service,in the middle,Missisnick & small demon Hannah,on the right,the departing Dublin service,on the far right-the former goods yard
A poor shot (never shoot into the sun if you can help it )-this is the Rosslare-Waterford local at Waterford with what I assume are suger-beet wagons in the foreground (we were trespassing on railway property at the time so didn`t want to hang around and ask.....)
This is a shot of the platform starter signal at Rosslare Europort-no real merit per se but as they are tearing down the old semaphores rapidly I thought I should record one...
The Cork & Kerry mountains ,looking down onto Bantry Bay-our cottage is one of the wee white blobs in the middle foreground
Right-enough,I need my bed .
will catch up with all the good stuff going on ASAP-take care gents,
nick
Weekly Schedule of EventsSunday - Bar is CLOSED - Food service is available for breakfast, brunch 'n lunch.Pix Posting Day. Monday thru Saturday: Breakfast - brunch - lunch.Tuesday - Classic Trains "theme day" - next up - Canadian Passenger Railways!!Wednesday - Toy 'n Model trains day (optional)Thursday - Fish 'n Chips nite - begins at 5 PMFriday - Pizza 'n Beer nite AND Steak 'n Fries nite - begins at 5 PMSaturday - Steak nite - begins at 5 PMEncore Saturday (optional)"Our" Place StaffBossman, Proprietor and Mentor: Siberianmo TomBar Manager - LoveDomes Lars
Bar Chandler - Trolleyboy RobChief Chef - nickinwestwales Nick
Chief Cyclops - BorisChief Bartender (nites - begins at 5 PM) - LeonChief Bartender (days - begins at 9 AM) - Ruth
Substitute Bartender - Cindy (Tom's Gal!)
Gals of "Our" Place - Ruth (redhead) - Ann (blonde) - Lucy (brunette) - Jemima (raven)Mascots of "Our" Place - Juneau the Siberian Husky - Awk the Parrott - Tex the Armadillo and Frostbite the PenguinSecurity Force - Inspector Cluess of the Local Constabulary and Mr. Doyle, Private Eye Birthday Watch List and special celebrationsMaintained by Tom and continuance to be determined.ProtocolGreet the barkeep upon visiting the bar - each time.Order a drink or food. (Coffee and soft drinks are free with food orders, otherwise 5 bucks per cup)Acknowledge the other guys and be inclusive with comments.Order of the Stools (reserved and permanent)Maintained by Tom and continuance to be determined.Most Valuable Patron - MVPMaintained by Tom and continuance to be determined.Daily Summary and Mentor Village GazetteSuspended and resumption to be determined by Tom.=====================================================
Until the next time!
G-day Tom and those at the bar.
Instead of you guys getting the drinks let me buy the second round. It is the 400th page... even though I have only been here for about 15 of the pages.
Anyway..Life is good and bad at the same time.
I just found out that the Box Cabs at the North Shore Scenic railroad/ Lake Superior Museum of transportation in Duluth will probably be donating them out to a place in Montana. I'm a bit sad about this... but, Life must go on!
Good part is my B-day is this Friday and I am quite estatic! I just got a Milwaukee Road Steeple Cab off ebay, and I am awaiting its arrival. Its a Nickel Plate model. There's a lot of detail on it and by what the guy says, it's the best running Nickel plate model he's had in a while. So hopefully everything goes fine there.
In the Classical train world.... I saw some pictures of that Triple header steam in conjuction with the 261. Thats a wow. Those chinese steam locos are quite a sight to behold. They definately have the most annoying steam whistle ever.
Hi Tom and all.
A pint of Bathams please RUTH and a round for a quite busy Monday..
Thanks for the kind words on the photos.
NICK I hope you got through that bad thunderstorm last night, do you think they are getting more frequent over there. Looking forward to your pics.
CM3 Thanks for the info on the movies.Great words about our four footed friends.
It must have been quite a sight and sound with those 6900s. Am I right in thinking the Sherman Hill is where the Big Boys done a lot of their stirling work? Do they have helper locos on the Hill today do you know.
TOM Good VIA pics to finish Sunday photo day Great Blast from the Past on the UP.. I was in the yard yesterday when their was a particularly loud diesel loco horn from the railway, I was wondering if it could have been a preserved loco as it was nowhwere near the time the Amtrak train was due.
Glad you enjoyed the German Pacific, it is a fine looking loco. I have still got a fair few of als German pics and I think he his planning a railtour to some of the Belgian steam lines.
LARS Great suppliment on Tom,s Blast..Very good words on the Coal miners and the mining industry. It is often forgotten what a dangerous job these guys do so we are provided with electricity etc.
Yes we are off to the old land for just over two weeks( all being well). Hopefully I shall be able to keep in touch with Our Place while away.
BK Thanks for the informative post on Canada's Thanksgiving Day, I am ashamed to say I knew little about it.
As well as having a Bay named after him, Sir Martin Frobisher had two British steam locomotives named after him.
One was a Southern Railway 4-6-0 of the Lord Nelson class #864 Sir Martin Frobisher. In BR days the loco was shedded at Bournemouth in Dorset where it would work express passenger trains to London Waterloo.
The other loco was a LMS Jubilee class 4-6-0 # 5640 Frobisher This loco was at Nottingham at the start of the 50s where it would work trains on the Midland main line going to places like London St Pancreas and Leeds. By the end of the 50s the loco had moved to the northern border city of Carlisle where it work over the Settle and Carlisle line as well as other LMS lines in the area. She is a classmate of the preserved Jubilee #5690.
Well Ruth to celebrate the 400th page let me get a round in.
Seeing as most of your teams didn't do so good this weekend I WONT even mention the Golf.. NO LEON is just English humor OUCH OUCH.
Pete.
TOM Have just caught your post. I very well remember the first time you told us about JESSIE, but I am very glad you have posted that story that makes one feel both happy and sad. Many thanks for sharing it with us again. Pete.
Ruth, take a break - I'll watch things . . .
Good to see CM3 - Lars 'n BK stop by on this first day of the work week.
Understand the frustration with the NFL (and other sports) CM3 - feel pretty much the same - even though our Lambs (Rams) squeeked one out - or better said: fumbled themselves into a win. <groan> Awful display and the only saving Grace is I'm not paying those exhoribant salaries! <grimmace>
In our family, dogs occupy the top run on the ladder. Can't imagine not having one in the house and there are times when we think about more than one. HOWEVER, since I'm the retiree - I'll stick to one Husky at a time. They are a handful and then some! I imagine you and your familly have viewed "Eight Below" - a fantastic story and one that touches the heart in many ways. It's a most welcomed addition to our DVD library. If you haven't seen it - highly recommended for viewing.
I think somewhere on these pages there is a reference to a Husky friend of ours named Jessie. He was a reddish colored Siberian with blue eyes who we knew from "puppyhood." Jessie loved to wander from his home over to ours (their street runs parallel to ours with a wooded common ground area separating the lots). Anyway, Jessie used to come over, push his nose through one of our screen doors on our patio and make himself at home until "found." He was a gentle animal and only desired a bit of attention - and a treat! Our former Husky, Fred - long haired Siberian with blue eyes - never seemed to mind, whereas Juneau the Wonder Husky did.
One day I had left a good sized Black Angus sirloin out on the patio table for thawing. Unknown to me, Jessie had come over for his weekly visit - discovered the steak - removed it from the wrapping, and devoured it all. The thing that got me was when I discovered the wrapping, it appeared as if it had been surgically opened, rather than torn asunder as one would expect from a dog. To this day we laugh about that. Jessie's "Mom 'n Pop" made good on the steak - Jessie was content - and all was right with the world that day!
Jessie is no longer in the world as he departed several months ago to the happy place all good dogs go to. Two days prior to his leaving, he hobbled over to our house - visited with me for awhile until his "Mom" came to fetch him - and pretty much said his "goodbye." It was his time, and although he was no longer the agile animal of earlier times, he somehow got his arthritic hips to permit him to make the trek from his house to ours. A touching end and one that we think about often.
Lars, there are times when I feel as if you're the "big brother" I never had - although, you're younger than I. <grin> Always looking out for Da Boss - much appreciated, but not always necessary. Things 'round this place have pretty much settled into what they're going to be. Just a few "regulars" - occasional visits from some new and not-so-new personalities - and that's about it. "We takes what we gets!"
BK, that's a nice detailed rundown on the Canadian Thanksgiving observance and history. I had planned on providing something similar as we got closer to the date - but what you've come up with is perfect! I haven't seen any diminishing of the day amongst those we socialize with in Canada are concerned - as the article alluded to. My bride's family celebrates it pretty much the way we do down here - turkey and all the trimmings. And they are not from the "loyalist" stock that settled north of the 49th during our revolution. Family heritage is from GB and western Canada via GB.
So, we're going to lose you too during October. Hmmmmm, that's going to reduce the 'dependability' factor even moreso. However, sticking to what I said upon my return - I'll do my part, if you guys do yours. No point in Posting just for the sake of Posting and no point in logging on to wait 'n see if others will do the same. Those days are long gone . . .
Okay - Boris, ring the bell and let's see if anyone is ready for a "freebie."
Thanksgiving in Canada The first and original Thanksgiving comes from Canada. In Canada, Thanksgiving is celebrated on the second Monday in October. Unlike the American tradition of remembering Pilgrims and settling in the New World, Canadians give thanks for a successful harvest. The history of Thanksgiving in Canada goes back to an English explorer, Martin Frobisher, who had been trying to find a northern passage to the Orient. He did not succeed but he did establish a settlement in Canada. In the year 1578, he held a formal ceremony, in what is now the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador, to give thanks for surviving the long journey. This is considered the first Canadian Thanksgiving, and the first Thanksgiving to have taken place in North America. Other settlers arrived and continued these ceremonies. He was later knighted and had an inlet of the Atlantic Ocean in northern Canada named after him - Frobisher Bay. At the same time, French settlers, having crossed the ocean and arrived in Canada with explorer Samuel de Champlain, also held huge feasts of thanks. They even formed 'The Order of Good Cheer' and gladly shared their food with their Native-Canadian neighbours. After the Seven Year's War ended in 1763 handing over Canada to the British, the citizens of Halifax held a special day of Thanksgiving. During the American Revolution, American refugees who remained loyal (United Empire Loyalists) to Great Britain were exiled from the United States and came to Canada. They brought the customs and practices of the American Thanksgiving to Canada. There are a few similarities between the two Thanksgivings such as the cornucopia and the pumpkin pie. But, unlike the US holiday, Thanksgiving in Canada is a much more muted event. In the USA the holiday is almost as important as Christmas for families getting together for the holiday. In Canada, this is not the case. Eventually in 1879, the Canadian Parliament declared November 6th a day of Thanksgiving and a national holiday in Canada. Over the years many dates were used for Thanksgiving, the most popular was the 3rd Monday in October. After World War I, both Armistice Day and Thanksgiving were celebrated on the Monday of the week in which November 11th occurred. Ten years later, in 1931, the two days became separate holidays and Armistice Day was renamed Remembrance Day. Finally, on January 31st, 1957, the Canadian Parliament proclaimed... "A Day of General Thanksgiving to Almighty God for the bountiful harvest with which Canada has been blessed ... to be observed on the 2nd Monday in October." The first Thanksgiving Day in Canada after Confederation was observed on April 5, 1872 to celebrate the recovery of the Prince of Wales (later King Edward VII) from a serious illness. Before then, thanksgiving days were observed beginning in 1799 but did not occur every year. Starting in 1879 Thanksgiving Day was observed every year but the date was proclaimed annually and changed year to year. The theme of the Thanksgiving holiday also changed year to year to reflect an important event to be thankful for. In the early years it was for an abundant harvest and occasionally for a special anniversary. After the first world war it was for Armistice Day and more recently and including today its been a day of general thanksgiving.
The first and original Thanksgiving comes from Canada. In Canada, Thanksgiving is celebrated on the second Monday in October. Unlike the American tradition of remembering Pilgrims and settling in the New World, Canadians give thanks for a successful harvest.
The history of Thanksgiving in Canada goes back to an English explorer, Martin Frobisher, who had been trying to find a northern passage to the Orient. He did not succeed but he did establish a settlement in Canada. In the year 1578, he held a formal ceremony, in what is now the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador, to give thanks for surviving the long journey. This is considered the first Canadian Thanksgiving, and the first Thanksgiving to have taken place in North America. Other settlers arrived and continued these ceremonies. He was later knighted and had an inlet of the Atlantic Ocean in northern Canada named after him - Frobisher Bay.
At the same time, French settlers, having crossed the ocean and arrived in Canada with explorer Samuel de Champlain, also held huge feasts of thanks. They even formed 'The Order of Good Cheer' and gladly shared their food with their Native-Canadian neighbours.
After the Seven Year's War ended in 1763 handing over Canada to the British, the citizens of Halifax held a special day of Thanksgiving.
During the American Revolution, American refugees who remained loyal (United Empire Loyalists) to Great Britain were exiled from the United States and came to Canada. They brought the customs and practices of the American Thanksgiving to Canada. There are a few similarities between the two Thanksgivings such as the cornucopia and the pumpkin pie. But, unlike the US holiday, Thanksgiving in Canada is a much more muted event. In the USA the holiday is almost as important as Christmas for families getting together for the holiday. In Canada, this is not the case.
Eventually in 1879, the Canadian Parliament declared November 6th a day of Thanksgiving and a national holiday in Canada. Over the years many dates were used for Thanksgiving, the most popular was the 3rd Monday in October. After World War I, both Armistice Day and Thanksgiving were celebrated on the Monday of the week in which November 11th occurred. Ten years later, in 1931, the two days became separate holidays and Armistice Day was renamed Remembrance Day.
Finally, on January 31st, 1957, the Canadian Parliament proclaimed...
"A Day of General Thanksgiving to Almighty God for the bountiful harvest with which Canada has been blessed ... to be observed on the 2nd Monday in October."
The first Thanksgiving Day in Canada after Confederation was observed on April 5, 1872 to celebrate the recovery of the Prince of Wales (later King Edward VII) from a serious illness. Before then, thanksgiving days were observed beginning in 1799 but did not occur every year. Starting in 1879 Thanksgiving Day was observed every year but the date was proclaimed annually and changed year to year. The theme of the Thanksgiving holiday also changed year to year to reflect an important event to be thankful for. In the early years it was for an abundant harvest and occasionally for a special anniversary. After the first world war it was for Armistice Day and more recently and including today its been a day of general thanksgiving.
from Wikipedia.com
Ruth, if you will, please provide a round for the house and a steaming mug of coffee for me with just a splash to make it interesting. Hold the food - I am still rather backed up from all that was consumed this weekend <burp> pardon ME! <grin>
Certainly appears as if there has been a smattering of interest and activity since my last visit. Does appear to be rather Spartan in comparison with the weeks immediately following the resumption of business. However, I should think the quality over quantity preference remains valid for the type of activity we thrive on in the Saloon by the Siding - Bar by the Ballast and Tavern by the Tracks!
An all encompassing WELL DONE to those who made the effort to provide some fine photographs on Sunday! Nicely done, gentlemen. Also, Sir Tom, appears as if you were the only Encore! provider on Saturday - but what a selection it was. A three-part educational visit to the French TGV. Outstanding choice and submission!
Good to see the week begin with CM3s submission, followed by my "bookend" Lars and his addendum to Tom's Blast from the Past! We have enjoyed it all. Noted that my "bookend" began page 400 on this thread! Next "milestone" is getting to 8,000 replies.
Time to settle back and watch for a bit - then we are off to the valley below for shopping and to regain our 'touch' with civilization.
Certainly hope to participate in the "Theme for the Day!" tomorrow - Canadian Passenger railways.
G'day (again) Captain Tom and fellow travelers at the bar!
A supplement to Tom's Blast from the Past!
"Drumhead" logos such as this often adorned the ends of the observation cars on the Overland Limited.
The Overland Flyer was a passenger train originally operated by the Union Pacific Railroad. The name harkens back to a stagecoach line operated by the Overland Mail Company between Salt Lake City, Utah and Virginia City, Nevada from 1861 to 1866 when Wells Fargo & Company took over the stagecoach's operation. Wells Fargo ended this stagecoach service three years later.
The train (which gave rise to the UP's nickname as "The Overland Route") was inaugurated in 1887. The railroad's nickname was eventually dropped from the company logo in 1942. In time, the line (which took on the name Overland Limited) fell under the joint operation of the Chicago and North Western Railway, the Southern Pacific Railroad, and the Union Pacific.
G’day Captain Tom and fellow travelers at the bar!
Ruth my deAH, you are a sight for sore eyes, and mine are feeling much bettAH thanks to YOU! What’s that Flattery will get me everywhere! Yeah, right – I can only wish! I’ll take a hot cuppa Joe, with one of those “splashes” you give my “bookend” BK and just a few pastries from the Mentor Village Bakery case, thank you!
My Giants looked terrible for 3 quarters, then came alive in the 4th, but as the saying goes, too little too late. I caught the lowlights of that Rams/Cardinals game, and it surely appeared as if neither team really wanted the game. But what do I know Suit ‘em up, pay ‘em well, and let the dice fall where they may – that’s pro sports. <geesh>
In spite of the rather low turnout these past several days, the quality material and pix still flow. Many thanks to those who give a Rat’s Patoot – keep it up guys, we don’t want or need to have Captain Tom shoulder the load by his lonesome. After all, it was the “gang of 10” who clamored for the return of the bar – so where is everyone
Good to see CM3 I’m Not Shane! begin the work week for us with another fine contribution. Liked the paragraph on the dogs – my favorite “people” too . . . Sorry to say, but when it comes to working in a hole in the ground - well I fail to see the 'safety' in that! The things we do for a living, huh I suppose it could be said that anyone who spent the greater part of adulthood sweating in shipboard enginerooms also sacrificed common sense for a pay check! <grin>
Those Pix from Pete yesterday were “right on” and that Pacific is a mighty fine looking piece of ‘chinery. Color ‘em up and they surely look classier than “grime black.” Diesels are fine as well – just that in comparison – well, ain’t no such thing! What's this about being away for October
Nice selection from Da Boss with those Via Rail shots! Always envy those of you who actually take the time to photograph your vacation trips. Something we never took seriously. A couple of 'snaps' here and there - but that's about it. Thanks for sharing!
I’ll be right back with a supplement to Tom’s Blast from the Past!
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present, coffee, please; round for the house, and $ for the jukebox.
Every one of my NFL teams lost this weekend, so we won’t even go there.
Lotsa catching up to do, so here goes.
Tom: Some fine UP nostalgia and sports commentary.
Interesting choice of movies. There is some interesting rr material in the Natural, especially at the beginning of the picture when the young Roy Hobbs strikes out “Da Wammah” at the county fair. If you haven’t read it, check out Leigh Montville’s book, The Big Bam,” a good biography of Babe Ruth. A little later, however, I never could quite figure out what a NY team was doing traveling on the ATSF, especially when St. Louis was the western outpost of MLB. B4 I forget, many of the scenes in the Natural were filmed at the old “rock pile” in Buffalo; former home of the Bisons, b4 they moved to Dunn Tire Park.
The younger set enjoyed Angels in the Outfield more than a few times as we have a VHS of that film.
Last, the Three Stooges short has some truly vintage SP material.
Then we have lots of TGV material which was good to see again.
Pete – IMHO, record-setting steam is in the eye of the beholder. Every country has a record setting steam locomotive, so pick the one you like the best.
I had several encounters with UP 6900s in Wyoming back when they were still running out there – “BIG choo-choo” as my wife’s younger niece used to say. Remember participating in a three-way meet on Sherman Hill which involved us and a pair of freights pulled by 6900s; it was truly something to remember.
Lars – Thanks for B&O material and EMD historical summary. I do all sorts of safety activities related to surface and underground mining (coal and noncoal), and basically go where management sends me; joys of experience, I guess.
Barndad provided us with some neat pictures – bodacious garage door on your humble dwelling. Then we got all nostalgic with pictures from the “home ground” in Wells River and Woodsville. Yikes – was it that long ago?
JP – Our K9 Korps sends their regrets. In addition, to my own “fleet” which gets mentioned fairly regularly in my posts, a friend has bloodhounds that do arson investigations. A Belgian Shepard lives next door to us; he works for the Police Dept here, and a retired drug dog (who loves to visit with the biggest of my beasts; 85 pounds of Golden, Collie, and God knows what) lives at the other end of the block. His handler (now owner) says, “I always know to come to your house, because I can find coffee, conversation, and my dog.” Anyway, they not only earn their $, they become part of the family. My wife’s family has three dogs at their place in NY, and my brother-in-law is active in greyhound rescue (no Boris, not bus restoration!) Lots of fun when we get ‘em all together.
Dave – SDA&E. Thank you so much!
James – Thanks for the pictures. We had SD50s here on the old C&O for awhile. They generally ran in pairs on ID coal trains. They also worked out of Ronceverte as pushers on EB coal trains. It was a great show to be at White Sulphur Springs and watch them grind up the hill there. C&O crews called them “Big Macs.”
Well, that enuff for now; looking forward to tomorrow and Canadian material. I don’t know whether I’ll post in a.m. or p.m. account schedule.
Work safe.
Tom's Blast from the Past!
from page 226
PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #61 Here’s something to enjoy regarding the Union Pacific (UP) in a 1933 advertisement from my private collection:
The trail to “Wonderland” Union Pacific serves 15 of our National parks and more of the famous scenic wonderlands of the West than does any other railroad. Plan now to see the west this summer. We suggest: Zion-Bryce Canyon . . .Yellowstone-Grand Teton . . . . . .Rock Mountain-National Parks . . . . . . . . . Colorado California and Hawaii . . . Pacific Northwest and Alaska . . . . . .Western Dude Ranches . . . . . . . . .Hoover Dam All costs are down. Rail fares are the lowest ever offered. Sightseeing rates, hotels, meals – in fact, all expenses are reduced. UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .OVERLAND . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Enjoy! Tom
Even though the bar is CLOSED
at "Our" Place on SUNDAYs -
We do observe SUNDAY PHOTO POSTING DAY!
Some VIA Rail Pix from my personal collection of the thngs I like to see 'n do . . .
Between Moncton & Sackville, New Brunswick - Dec 14, 2002
Westbound "Ocean" Revelstoke Park car at Halifax - Dec 19, 2002
Eastbound "Ocean" at Halifax Nova Scotia - Dec 15, 2002
Eastbound "Canadian" F40PH's at Jasper, Alberta, Canada - Jan 6, 2003
Crossing the St. Lawrence Seaway en routeMontreal, Quebec - May 12, 2005
Here are Alans photos taken in Germany in August.
The loco featured is Pacific # 18.201. apparently it was labeled "De Snelliste Dampflok In der Welte".. I think there is a blue engine in York Museum who might have a word or two to say about that. Anyway.
The loco worked a main line tour
The locos second tender is in the background.
At Chemnitz( formally known as Karl Marx Stadt) station
The loco at the special train's destination of Finsterwalde five hours later. Alan said it was a good trip behind this fine looking oil fired loco, as he said " Snell but not the snellist."
LARS. I will help with the Chow and I wish the bar was open as I need a stiff un after battling with the puter again today, It would not copy, it would not paste, but the bride came back and saved the post with only the loss of the Smileys.
Thanks for the B&O steam fine looking locos.
Here are some British diesel locos I hope.
One of the new class 185 Diesel Multiple Units on a Trans-Pennine service at Huddersfield station Yorkshire.
A preserved English Electric class 50 diesel-electric loco at Kidderminster on the Severn Valley Railway. These locos were introduced in the late 60s and worked on the unelectrified lines on the West Coast Main Line north of Crewe. After the electrification was complete to Glasgow, the 50 locos of the class were transferred to the Western Region to work trains from London to Bristol and the West Country. When they first arrived on the Western they were very unpopular as they replaced the very much loved diesel-hydrulics of the Warship, Western, and Hymek classes. but in their later years had quite a railfan following.
The loco never carried the handsome two-toned livery shown, in BR days being in BR blue from the start.
A class 56 DE loco in one of the south bays at Rugby station. These locos worked mainly Merry-Go round coal trains between colliery and power station when introduced.
A class 57/3 loco in the north bay at Rugby. These locos were re-engined using the class 47 body built in the 60s. The engine is a GM 645-12F35, this sub-class of 16 locos are fitted with a Dellner coupling with use with the Virgin Pendelinos. The class are named after caractures in the kids Thunderbird TV series that appeared in Britain in the 60s This featured puppets who worked for the Internationl Rescue who saved people in danger. The name is used as part of the 57/3s duties are to rescue failed trains. they are kept at stations along the West Coast Main Line.
I wonder if NICK remembers the Thunderbird series.
I will try to load some of ALs pics.
I started this yesterday but lost it and had to go out.
Great post Friday LARS on the EMD.I believe that UP stills a Centennial 6,600 hp diesel loco that is used on specials, it must be a wonderful sight and sound to see it in action EMD as made a mark in the UK with approaching 400 in service and more on order. they used the 710 prime mover.
Thanks James for the pics of the SD40-2 and the 50s
DAVE What a fascinating railroad the San Diego & Arizona was and the link TOM supplied really great reading, and the pics all enlarged. Many a lesser man would have given up on its very hard construction. Those pics of the tressels and one pic I liked was of the neat little station seemingly in the middle of nowhere.
J Powell Thanks for sharing the sad tale of BO, may I agree with what LARS and TOM said about dogs .
MIKE The tragic Maglev accident was in the K.C Star. The work of the Emergency Services was made a great deal harder by the height at which the track is on.
Thanks for the pics of the Military locos.
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This is Part of what I wrote at the time, It was from FEB, I have left the last line in to show some things haven't changed, but at least Lars basement problem at the time is over, very thankfully.
Excellent TGV piece I have learnt a lot from it and it has prompted some lively replies in the bar. The French goverment deserve credit, at least in this matter, putting the money into a brand new line and equipment when a lot of the world was turning its back on railways. Although it was a shame the new link in England to the Channel Tunnel was not built at the same time as the French line. At least it should be complete in 2007. Another thing that struck me was the safety record of the new lines. The serious accidents being on old lines involving grade crossings. I know a lot of money has been spent in England on eliminating 3 of these crossings on the line between Coventry to Birmingham but I'm afraid that its the only way to go on high speed lines. I suppose as well a new line allows for more frieght paths on the original lines as well. In the U.K although the frieght trains have got faster the speed DIFFERENTIAL between them and the passenger trains has remained the same since steam days(50-65 MPH). The computer seems to be behaving it self at the minute although the operator is having problems, managed to delete an earlier attempt.
LARS It was indeed a terrible accident that sould never have happened in Germany. The first Maglev in to be used for passengers was over the approximate 400 metres from Birmingham airport to the British Rail Station known as Birmingham Internation. It was introduced in the mid-80s, I it have travelled over it. The service became very patchy and it was often replaced by a bus link, which is not user friendly. Today the track is used to connect the two useing simular carts but in convention rail hauled by a cable. with two cars running a very frequent service. Far far better than the bus.
Great to see the house coming along DOUG. Woodstock seems a great little town thanks for the Canadian pics.
TOM Another great set of baseball films on at the Emporium this week. I have not seen The Natural but would sure like too. I seem to have seen an earlier version of Angles in the Outfield which was great.It seems this version is a slightly different plot. The Stooges have a railroad theme as well.
I will be back in a bit with some pics.
Manager Lars
Even Though the bar at ”Our” Place is
CLOSED on SUNDAY’s –
We do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!
NOW PLAYING at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!
. . . Sunday, September 24th thru 30th: The Natural (1984) Starring: Robert Redford & Robert Duvall – and – Starring: Angels in the Outfield (1994) Danny Glover, Tony Danza & Glenn Close. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Grips, Grunts and Groans (1937)
The Natural (1984)
PLOT SUMMARY: An unknown middle-aged batter named Roy Hobbs with a mysterious past appears out of nowhere to take a losing 1930s baseball team to the top of the league in this magical sports fantasy. With the aid of a bat cut from a lightning struck tree, Hobbs lives the fame he should have had earlier when, as a rising pitcher, he is inexplicably shot by a young woman.
from: www.imdb.com
Angels in the Outfield (1994)
Roger who has lost his mother is living separated from his father. As he and his friend J.P. are one of the biggest fans of the Los Angeles baseball team he has got only two dreams: Living together with a real family and let LA win the championship. As he is praying for these two things to happen some angels show up in order to help him - but he is the only one to see them and believe in them. Fortunately the coach of the baseball team sees his abilities and so LA has a run to the finals...
SHORT: Gaps, Grunts and Groans (1937)
PLOT SUMMARY: Featuring Moe, Larry and Curly The Stooges are hobos who get thrown off a freight train and chased out of the railroad yard. They hide in the "Hangover Athletic Club," where Curly gets hired as a sparring partner. Ivan Bustoff, wrestling World Champion, takes a shine to the Stooges, and his manager hires them to keep on eye on Bustoff and make sure he doesn't drink. When Ivan gets plastered (and the Stooges knock him cold with dumbells), Moe sends out Curly disguised as Bustoff. Curly finally wins the match, when he goes berserk from smelling "Wild Hyacinth" perfume.
The Stooges are hobos who get thrown off a freight train and chased out of the railroad yard. They hide in the "Hangover Athletic Club," where Curly gets hired as a sparring partner. Ivan Bustoff, wrestling World Champion, takes a shine to the Stooges, and his manager hires them to keep on eye on Bustoff and make sure he doesn't drink. When Ivan gets plastered (and the Stooges knock him cold with dumbells), Moe sends out Curly disguised as Bustoff. Curly finally wins the match, when he goes berserk from smelling "Wild Hyacinth" perfume.
from: www.threestooges.net
I'm back! Howabout some 1950 CPR pix?
“DP” from the 171-mile Montreal Wells River run is 10-wheeler 1083, shown in retirement at Newport, Vt. enginehouse. Majority of steamers were shipped to other parts of the system by 1950, leaving a few behind as spares. The bumping of mainline steam engines increased when CPR’s $12 million order for diesels – largest in Canadian history – had been filled. These 58 units were earmarked for the Schrieber Division.
Wisps of smoke rising from its ventilator gratings are the only signs of strain given by this Alco-built doubleheader as it starts its heavy train on the grade north of Bradford, Vt. 1950 CPR motive power was in international operation included twelve 1500-hp freight units, five 1500-hp switchers and three 1000-hp switchers, plus the three passenger Diesels, all of which bear the road’s gray, tuscan red and focal yellow markings.
Running non-stop to White River Jct., No. 8403 glides past Wells River station, end of CPR iron. Besides freight, road switcher hauls local passenger trains between Montreal and Newport.
Spotted at Woodsville water spout, No. 1800 takes a long drink, 1950 gallons being needed for a full tank. Outsized tank has stepped up E-8’s car-heating capacity to double the average Diesel’s, a concession to the local climate. Snow-spattered ground suggests the workout given heating plant last December. EMD-built 1800 has 85 mph maximum speed.
Double exposure of twin Diesels, CPR units 4003-4004, thanks to the reflecting waters of the Connecticut River. B%M freight S-U-1 has slowed down for sharp curves in right-of-way cutting through Stone Cliffs, just north of Bradford, Vt.
A reporter was interviewing a couple married for 75 yrs and he asked what the secret for their long marriage? The husband answered "Trust and honesty."He then asks the wife her thoughts and she said "It's because we both have keys to the gun cabinet."
Good morning gents! Is breakfast still free? I'll have a sticky bun from the Mentor bakery and some coffee please. As you might imagine, I'm working job #2 today. It was sure nice to get a break from both jobs yesterday, and spend some time with my family and lovely bride. Compliments to Tom for submitting two very fine ENCORES yesterday, and thanks for the link to the unfortunate news of the train wreck in Germany.
I thought I'd share a few more pictures of the town in which I now live, starting with the new home we're building!
Here's a butterfly in my pear tree at the farm we rent
A Woodstock building ... bottom floor is available!
The opera house (it's haunted .. ya know)
The old courthouse and jail
This car is now used as a diner, at the McDonalds in Crsytal Lake
That's it for now. There might be more later!
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