"OUR" PLACE - SEE NEW THREAD!

[nickinwestwales]

Well,I`ll try the same again as you`re still about,-glad you are enjoying your `S`capades-have just purchased track for 4 year old daughters "Thomas"-selected stock from the big box of Brit trains that preceeded my current interest-forgot how much fun you can have with a simple train-set-are you finding yourself torn between the Can-Am and a simple E8 clockwise & F7 widdershins arrangement-not yet ?

[siberianmo]

Nick I'll give you the benefit of the doubt - you are correct, Sir! The Mentor simply comes from the signage over the front porch ...... that's it - no more, no less.

Prize [?] How about a 4-day rail adventure on the Can-Am RR [?] Check out this URL:
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/thomasweber
Go to page 5, scroll down to Ted's Fantasy Can-Am journey click it - then follow the pix one by one - kinda like a slide show. This is YOUR prize!

G'nite mate!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[nickinwestwales]

good to be back my friend

[nickinwestwales]

O.K. Tom,I`m sticking with this Mentor thing-I will have the right of it before i rest !!-the only reference I can find is the "Mentor Tavern"notice outside the bar-had assumed Mentor was a Brewery name or something similar-ya wicked s*d-I`m just back from beyond and you throw me a puzzle like this-definately my turn for the next quiz question regards to all and tell Cindy we will catch up very,very soon.......[C=:-)]

[siberianmo]

Evenin' Nick - that sounds good! Glad to have you back ....

Just happen to have a fresh supply of Staropramen from Prague - just came in today by the Can-Am Limited ..... [swg] Thanx for the Keiths .... it's a hot one 'round here as of late, and a couple of those will go down really well. [tup]
Ok, Boris go for it - ring the bell - round's on Nick [yeah]

So, you've had the pleasure of Leon's company, have you [?] The tuxedo and those Jump Boots are an interesting mix, wouldn't you agree [?] He's quite the character and does his part to keep things orderly 'round here. Of course, his primary duty is to be our Night Man spellilng me behind the bar when the eyelids begin to slam shut - which at my stage in life, can happen at almost any hour! [swg]

From the smells comin' out of the kitchen, between you and Ted the customers are in for a treat tonight ....... [tup]

Boris is that a smile I see [?] Good Gawd Gertie ........ [:0]

Ahhhhh, tis a good night indeed, all's well at "Our" Place [:D]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

Evenin' Ted

Perhaps your last tour of duty as the Interim Chief Chef [C=:-)] of "Our Place! A cause for a cold Kokanee for sure! [tup][swg]

Regarding the Phantom discussion - it would be far better to check out the threads without logging in than to reveal one's cyber ID - then exit without so much as a fairtheewell says I. [;)] By the by - this isn't personal at all - this has been ongoing since our early days ....... an observation of mine, that's all.

Enjoy the evening and thanx again for the kitchen duty!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

G'day passengerfan Al

Crown Royal it is - sans the water back, of course! We have to watch that water intake! [swg]

The Pacific Central terminal in Vancouver is hardly a hotbed of rail activity - not that you implied it was. As discussed in the brief article I quoted - it does serve VIA Rail, Amtrak and the Rocky Mountaineer. VIA Rail's Canadian only has three arrivals and three departtures per week. Amtrak's offering is one roundtrip to Seattle on a daily basis, and I'm really unsure of the Rocky Mountaineer tourist trap train - I don't really care about those inflated plastic versions of the real thing. Ooooops, [soapbox] time! [swg]

Anyway, for my money, if you want to see a real opeating rail station, go to Montreal's Central Station. It's fantastic with all of the activity in the great hall. Just a shame one can't get down to the platforms for picture taking, unless of course you are heading off on a trip ........ but that's just the way it is.

By the by, you've had a couple of Emails sent your way as of late .......

Glad you stopped by .......

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[nickinwestwales]

Well good evening all, Tom,I`ll take a bottle or two of the Staropramen from the fridge at the back of the kitchen,a glass of Mr Alexanders for yourself,large G&T,ice & a slice for Ted,Guinness for Rob,a little something for the ladies,a small shandy for Boris plus a round for the house-happy to defer to your best judgement here. - Well,it`s been a bit of a time in these parts!-happily I live far from the centre of events,but the general buzz seems to be "If thats your best shot-forget it", well enough of the real world-there seem to have been some changes in these parts-on attempting to gain access to the property tonight I was detained by what appeared to be a badly shaved Oran-Utang in a tuxedo who was keen to inform me that tonight was "fish members only club"-closer investigation has revealed this to be Leon,and,after an exchange of both growling & posturing,he seems to have accepted me as a member of staff,subject to a right slap if he doesnt toe the party line -Ted-I fear you have been letting the staff get the better of you-your inherant good nature will be your downfall [:D] Right,enough of this social chit-chat,I have a kitchen to attend to,....BORIS.....BORRRIIISSS,--Daddy`s home,get down,get off me,---Jeez,how long has that apron been on ?---right,out in the yard NOW-O.K-hose at maximum-fire one!!!. Alright,lets get back in the chair,Fish & chip night it is,--WE HAVE-----Cod,Haddock & Plaice in batter,Scampi Sole & Flounder in breadcrumbs ,sausages,saveloies,black & white puddings in batter ,a variety of pies and pastries-brought to you in association with Mentor Bakeries,all served up with crispy golden fries and a big down-home smile [^] happy `eatin....[C=:-)]

[siberianmo]

G'day barndad Doug

Sarsasparilla - now there's an interesting word, and memory. Back in my day that was a common soft drink (pop, to some - soda to others) that was as common as the cola drinks, 7-Up, etc. Went the way of the buggie whip, however. As I understand it - Sarsasparilla is a root - derivitives which have medicinal benefits. Somewhere in the mix, is a flavor which some innovative soul turned into a profitable drink. Very common in the days of the old west in the USA. Now, we just happen to stock it - so drink up! [tup] BUT, it's gonna cost you more than a real adult beverage! [swg]

That picture says it all! Kinda convinces me that I'll NEVER ride THAT particular run ... [tdn]

Don't sweat the lack of experience regarding Classic Trains. As long as you have the interest is what counts 'round here.

See ya!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[Anonymous]

Well, it appears I'm still behind the spatula after all.[8] This will be an auspicious occasion in that I will be serving our own Cheif Chef.[C=:-)] Hmmm, must be a tight Union, eh? Okay, I'll begin [dinner] at the beginning; a ice cold Kokanee for addressing the grill please. Tonight, we have smoked Mullet along with the usual mid-western variety of fried fish fillets and chips (apparently a provencial favorite hereabouts). "When in Liverpool Rome," right [b]Nick/b]? BTW, just a moment to relate how very much U.S. citizens applaud the methods used in handling these latest barbarous attacks on London. Maybe, we can learn something by this example?[soapbox]

Well, since there is little or nothing more to add at this time, I'll make this a "wrap." Oh, I wouldn't worry too much about the "Phantom."[:O] Chances are good that he will only Post when Posted to.[:D] Stay well and safe everyone. Happy rails, Ted

[passengerfan]

Evening All time for a Crown Royal and a round for the house.
Know the old CN Station in Vancouver very well traveled in and out of it many times. Just to the north the Great Northern used to have a Station it was every bit as magnificent as the CN station and it only ever served five daily trains prior to WW II and four four a few years following the war and in the streamline era of the 1950's three Internationals daily. The CN station was served by six trains daily at one time and gradually that dwindled to two and finally just a single dail;y train and then along came Via and suddenly the Station was serving the old CP Canadian. Today the station serves Amtraks Seattle - Vancouver route and the Canadian.

[Anonymous]

Evening ALL ... evening Tom. I'll have a cold sasparilla please! (whatever that is) [:)]
I posted the http://www.railimages.com/gallery/dougsecrist website as my signature, so you can all see what I have put in there so far. I'll probably create specific sub-folders to keep things organized, so if you just wanted to see pics of our UP 428, they'd be all together. Same with the AT&SF 2903 pics I have been sending to Gunns.
Just recently figured out Theodorebear's handle. It's a variation of teddybear. Sheesh ... I am slowwwwwwwwwww. Sorry I can't regail everyone with classic train stories. The only ones I know are what I read here and in Classic Trains. I sure wi***hey were still publishing Vintage Rails. I have all the back copies I could get at the IRM used book store. [^]
Ya'll have a great fish fry. My boss has ordered home grilling this evening, so I'll be doing that! I'll leave you with my pic for today:

[siberianmo]

G'day Ted Sage comments, indeed regarding the Phantom browsing. I would wholeheartedly concur with your assessment if it were not for my observations that many of these Phantom browers have done so during events like our Birthday Bashes or at a time when we haven't been blessed with their presence for a couple of days. Of course it is always the option and right of the Phantom to not check in - however, I find it a bit strange to say the least, especially from our so-called regular clientele. Ahhhhh, life goes on .......

Kokanee is a fine brew, made from the purist of waters in BC - so they tell me - and of the most selective ingredients - so I'm told - and it goes down quite well - so I've found! Enjoy! [tup] [swg]

Thanx for the [bday] wishes - Semper Paratus (Always Ready) - we used to have an insider's motto back in the days when no one, including Congress, seemed to give a Rat's Patoot! about us - ready [?] Here it comes: In our obscurity, lies our security! Those days are long gone - the nation now understands, and I hope appreciates, the need. [tup]

[yeah] That VIA Rail experience of ***'s really ticks me off - especially since I feel a bit responsible for helping him with finding out just how to get booked on the vintage Budd equipment, before it all departs for western runs. Honestly, that kinda stuff is what we've become accustomed to with Amtrak - now apparently the malaise has hit VIA Rail too. Ugh. I'm hoping it's just an anomaly, however, I have witnessed the deterioration as well ...... sad.

I like the suggestion of a Champagne toast - or 4 of 'em - now to come up with 4 separate, distinct and appropriate combinations of words! [yeah]

I've got a hardcover book in my not-so-elaborate library of railroad stuff entitled, Classioc American Railroad Terminals by Kevin J. Holland. Features Cincinnati's Union Terminal on the dust jacket. Great, great narratives and pictures. Also, Classic Trains has recently put out a supplement called, Great Train Stations which I received as a free gift for my new subscription. Two fine additions to the library .....

That Pacific Central terminal in Vancouver is a wonderful place to browse ...... [tup]

See ya Ted and you're still in charge of tonight's Fish Fry!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[Anonymous]

Back in from the "wilds" of the Florida summer foliage and fauna to say [bday] to all members of the Coast Guard, their friends and families. It is hard to imagine what this Country would be without the vigilance and protection this Branch of our Armed Forces has faithfully rendered since 1790. Sempre Parada (?) Tom.

Ah yes, the "Phantom at the Thread!"[:O] It occurs to me the only logical thing to do is "login" from time to time to see if there are any meaningful comments to be made regarding prior Posts. Otherwise, this Thread would be overwhelmed with [#offtopic] palaver for "star points" collectors. That being a cardinal admonition issued by the Proprietor, if memory serves. Perhaps ivestigative inquiry is best left to Inspector Clueless and "Mentor's Finest?"[:-^]

On the "good news- -bad news" side: it was great to hear Gunns was able to "ring the bell" for the first time in, alas, forty long years; music to the ear.[:D] The loss of the BSR/BMR original equipment is always on the "bad news" side, Rob. Dave, I remember the Frisco "shadow paint" as late as the early 1950's. The Heavyweights looked peculiar to say the least in what I took for an attempt to make a "silk purse out of a Sow's ear."[(-D] If there was any intention to camouflage the cars, I haven't seen the evidence yet (could be?). Frankly, I preferred the traditional Road colors.

Right Earlydiesels Dan, I can only think of that incident as "a word to the wise:" "If it sounds too good..," you know the rest.[swg] ***, I guess "all is well that ends well?" To be honest, I would probably have been "ticked-off" to encounter some of the mishaps along the VIA way (way, way?).[:(!] Tom probably "got it right" by showing dissatisfaction for such "shabby" customer treatment. May I partake of a Kokanee for closer scrutiny purposes only please.[:)] Now, as far as August 12th (4 month anniversary) is concerned, maybe just a Champagne toast for continued longevity? Make that 4 toasts. On closing, there is a recently published book w/photos on America's great train depots. I think I'll pick it up as, through the years "on the road", I made a point of visiting all within a reasonable distance. There is an indelible imprint made on most of us who, at a young age, first entered the massive halls of a major metropolitan city depot. All of the senses of sight, sound and smell are effected and never forgotten. Okay, must buy a 'round and head back to the last shrub until next time.[V] So long for now, Ted

[siberianmo]

Mornin' Ted

Nice seeing you again ... gotta watch that yard work (and I'm not referring to trains!) - gets to me this time of year. Our temps have been in the high 90's this week - supposedly getting a respite tonight. Oh well, it IS summertime. [V]

Now that Nick has returned, you can begin your Managerial duties in a more relaxed fashion. Nick will oversee the kitchen staff - which means Boris may be a bit more tolerable to live with! [swg] Oh [yeah] won't Cindy be elated to learn of the return of her man![?] Wonder what outfit she'll wear for the first reunion in the kitchen [?] [}:)][:-,] Well, we've got that closed circuit TV system working - so I'll be sure to put it on the 3 large screen TV's! [:D]

Check out that latest issue of Classic Trains ......

An official THANK YOU VERY MUCH for the Interim Chef and Party Coordinator jobs you handled in Nick's absence! [tup][tup][tup]
See ya!
Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

My Fall 2005 issue of Classic Trains arrived yesterday and as always, it's chock full of good stuff about the subject 'round here - Classic Trains!. [yeah] That's the forum we're on and why this thread was begun .....

Page 98 has a fantastic photo of the former Canadian National Railways terminal in Vancouver, BC, Canada. My wife and I have been in that building on our cross-Canada round trips from Toronto on 4 occasions and it's a great edifice to railroading history.

A quote from Classic Trains Fall 2005, page 98

QUOTE: Mackenzie and Mann's Vancouver monument

William Mackenzie and Donald Mann began assemblilng the Canadian Northern system in the 1890's. A mix of new construction and acquired lines, their railway evetually spanned from Montreal to the Pacific coast. But Mackenzie and Mann's dream of a second (after Canadian Pacific) great private Canadian system collapsed in 1918, when finacial difficulties caused the CNoR to fall into government hands, and thus was born Canadian National Railways. Perhaps Mackenzie and Mann's greatest achievement was the construction of a new line from Winnipeg via Edmonton to Vancouver - 1570 miles across the prairies, through the mountains, and down the Thompson and Fraser river canyons. The CNoR reached the growing port city in 1915, and the next year opened this fine passenger terminal just southeast of downtown. After decades of playing second-fiddle to Canadian Pacific's waterfront staion, this building is now Vancouver's primary depot, serving ViA Rail Canada, Amtrak, and the Rocky Mountaineer tour train (West Coast Express commuter trains use the CP station). It even has a new name - Pacific Central - which is spelled out on the roof in giant illuminated letters like the ones in the Canadian National sign seen here [in the pix].

Sure brings back some happy memories for me - last time there was January 2003 on our return trip to Toronto over the New Year's holiday week.

My photo taken in Jan 2003 ... click to enlarge.


Hope all of you subscribe to this great magazine ...... I'm a newcomer to it, and really enjoy it. Been with Model Railroader since the mid-60's, however.

See ya! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[Anonymous]

[C=:-)] "For he's a jolly good fellow...!" Great to see you back Nick! Your Chef's Whites are awaiting you with my profound blessings. The meager efforts I made as a substitute are now at an "official" end.[:D] Boris was well cared for during your absence and only the management and clientele are any the "worse for wear."[:O] As you peruse the "Summaries," notice there are new Members to meet and greet. All are very erstwhile and welcomed as excellent Contributors to "Our" Place as, I'm sure, Tom has confirmed. I won't take time away from your reviewing more than to say: Welcome Back![bow]

Speaking of "taking up time," the yard clippings and trimmings require immediate action from yours truly.[V] It has taken several days for that stuff to dry-up enough for bagging. I don't complain about the heat, knowing what Rob, Gunns, barndad and other restoration PHD's are going through this summer. BTW, before I must sign-off, the August Issue of Walther's sales catolog(ue) has some pretty incredible HO prices pp. 60 thru 62.[swg] Also, if you haven't checked out the data on the annual meeting that Gunns has mentioned...do yourself a favor.[tup][tup][tup]

I'll have a "bracer" of Gin, tonic and a quarter lime if you please Tom Here's to your progress on the S scale layout and may you never drop a spike or split a tie. Rob, "snail mail" is on the way. G'day all, see ya's soon, Ted

[siberianmo]

Mornin' (here) Nick [swg]
Resolve just has to be a Brit thing for if ever a people exemplified a word, you and yours past and present surely do! Backbone is where it's at in my book. [tup][tup][tup]

That silly Quiz of mine with the Mentor buisness began innocently enough - then I discovered that no one was picking up on it - meaning, no reading. So being my anal self, I just kept it going ..... the answer has been posted many times and as you progress through the pages, you'll uncover the secret! [swg]

As I'm typing this I see your cyber name up and I can't emphasize enough just how good it is to have you amongst us again. Things 'round here perked along - some good days, some quite slow - but never the same wtihout Nick and the warped sense of humor (humour) you bring to the table ...... [;)]

By the by, were the Emails getting through during this period of difficulty [?] I know the guys were trying to let you know that we've been thinking about you ...... Nonetheless, that's history and before too long, you and Boris will be back in the thick of it all! [}:)]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[nickinwestwales]

Okay,getting there slowly,up to about pge 55,Tom a large cold one please and one yourself, right-on behalf of my fellow Brits,many thanks to all for your kind thoughts of recent weeks. People have been throwing things at us since Roman times and a few loonies with handbags full of sugar & weedkiller aren`t going to achieve much-the Luftwaffe did thier best as did the I.R.A-all they managed was to **** us off-this bunch of chancers might as well give it all up now. Tom-havn`t figured the "mentor" reference yet-my guess would be the name of your first ship ? -right,tasks to attend to,back later for some fish`n`chips,regards,nick [C=:-)]

[siberianmo]

THURSDAY’s SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS (edited)


NICK’s back!

Howdy folks! One more day ‘til the end of the work week (for most)! [yeah] Can’t think of a better place to start off than right here with The Mentor Village Bakery goods right over there in the pastry case – some hot Joe –and if you prefer, our light breakfast fare. [yeah][wow]

Tonight is our Fish ‘n Chips Nite and Interim Chief Chef, Ted’s Fish Fry Check the menu board …… it looks good. [swg]

Know what today is [?] Coast Guard Day! [yeah] Begun back in 1790, as the Revenue Marine and Revenue Cutter Service, present day outfit bills itself as the oldest continuing sea going service in the nation. Always good for a bet or two – and of course, a beer! [swg] [bday] U.S. Coast Guard! [tup][tup][tup] Some interesting stuff on:
http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/collect.html

The talk ‘round here needs to pick up a bit – MORE Classic Trains – c’mon guys, there are lots of stories out there … think about it and let’s share those experiences! Take a look at yesterday’s submission by our friend, *** – some present day insight about VIA Rail’s Ocean, operating in eastern Canada for over 100 years! That’s classic stuff! [tup]

REPEATED from yesterday: August 12th will represent the 4th month of ”Our” Place on the Forums. That’s not bad considering we only have a relative handful of guys who make this idea work. Any suggestions regarding something special on that day [?] Whatever we come up with, it has to be a bit different from our Birthday Bashes ……

2005 BIRTHDAY WATCH LIST (rev. Aug 4th):

February 2nd (Kevin – 49)
March 5th (Nick – 45)
April 18 (Al - 63)
May 18th (Tom - 67)
May 27th (Dave - 46)
June 24th (Dan - 43)
July 15th (*** – 65)
July 25th (Chris - 51)
July 30th (Russell – 34)
August 16th (Ted - 67) NEXT UP! 8 PM (Eastern Time) on Tuesday, Aug 16th
September 8th (Rob - 34) Pick the time!

Not on the list [?] Send me an Email with your birth date (month-day-year).
Corrections too!

Time to SUMMARIZE, minus many smilies, graphics and photos.

QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 03 Aug 2005, 12:30:04


Things are a bit slow this week, so it's time for:

POST FROM THE PAST

From time to time I will post what should serve as examples to all of what this thread is all about. This one is from our member of The Legion of the Lost Nick - from page 5
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QUOTE: nickinwestwales Posted: 28 Apr 2005, 04:44:25

Posts: 147
Joined: 16 Apr 2005

Hey,Tom-another of those cold Molsons please and as it`s payday a round for the house,as and when they straggle in!! Well it`s a day off for me(the best sort-everyone else is working) and blowing a gale out there so time to sit a while. So,Ontario Northland,classic or not?...discuss....[takes me back to schooldays] Well ,first a disclaimer,I`ve never travelled on any of these lines,so all this is "received wisdom" picked up from the (un)official O.N. railfan site,but they caught my imagination. In part because of the manageable size of the outfit (in modelling terms) and partly the off the beaten track,frontier feel of the place. So,the trains, The Northlander runs daily from Toronto up to Cochrane via North Bay ( C.N. trackage to N.Bay ) Normal formation seems to be G.P.38-2,A.P.U (converted "B" unit for car heating ) 2 coaches and a food service car ( coverted G.O.cars ) until fairly recently,power was any one of the last 3 F.P.7a`s dating back to `51 or 2 but retro-fitted with 2000 hp Caterpiller prime movers. Also seen on this service although not sucessful and long withdrawn ,were a number of Dutch built Werkspoor T.E.E units. This service meets bus connections along the route serving the various `branches ` although It`s predecessor the Northland sleeper carried connecting portions and could include virtually anything. Heading north from Cochrane we have the Polar Bear Express,a summer-only tourist run up to Moosonee up in the arctic circle--this is usually a twin G.P38 lashup although Cochrane shed will happily use whats available,usually a dozen plus cars including domes,food service etc ( think these came from B.C.Rail and C.P.R . The Little Bear is the 3-times-weekly mixed to Moosonee--Beyond Cochrane you are in the tree line and the track is the only land route in or out so this is a community lifeline, The little bear runs about a dozen freight cars(lots of flats with big plant,containers etc,fuel tanks,general stores. According to season,a "canoe car" ( bulkhead flat with special racks fitted) and a "moose car" (50` box for dressed carcases) are available. so a thumbnail essay. Thats left me thirsty so same again and i`ll just perch over here at the end of the counter,take care now, nick
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POST FROM THE PAST

Enjoy!

Tom

QUOTE: West Coast S
Posted: 03 Aug 2005, 13:04:12

Morning Tom and the gang

Just catching up on the topics over the last several days and one in particular got my attention. The Santa Fe heavyweights in silver with black stripes were actually painted using a technique known as "Shadow Paint"

I don't think more then half a dozen chair cars were so done, and slight variations could be found in all. SF was pleased with the visual end result, but not the labor involved and thus decided not to persue it any further. Not only SF, FRISCO and BURLINGTON had a few heavyweights in "Shadow Paint" so the following paragraph my have some truth to it.

"Shadow Paint" may have been linked with the aircraft industry who were seeking a final finish for bombers that would reduce the overall profile to enemy intercepters. The added benefit that it blended with lightweight equipment was the icing on the cake. This would make a great research project for one so inclined.

Not all heavyweights vanished to the scrap heap, SF maintained a sizeable heavyweight fleet in MW service at Barstow, at the time they were in good condition and little modified from their revenue days. Included were several fishbelly baggage cars, coaches, diners, RPOs and one ancient observation car with the rear platform enclosed.

Am I the only one who purchased the newest publication on SP sleepers and Crew Dorimitory cars for all carbody eras, published for the SP Historical Society? I highly recommend it even at the $125.00 purchase price. My copy should be arriving this week sometime.


Well i'm off to sally up some more coffee and sticky buns and check my company E mail for anything of substance. I do have a temp assignment i'm awaiting orders for, followed by a second TDY to San Diego, looks like a busy month.

Until Later

Dave

QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 03 Aug 2005, 13:17:24

G'day West Coast S Dave

Man, it's feast or famine with our West Coast Man of Mystery these days. Now you see him, now you don't! Well, glad you're back, so pull up that Reserved Stool and have a beer 'n some lunch!

Got part of my S-gauge order yesterday - three structures from Ameican Model Builders: Interlocking Tower - Yard Office and Gandy Dancer's Shack. I've used this manufacturer before on my HO Can-Am layout and really think highly of the quality. Looking forward to the construction. Still awaiting those trains - GP35 w/caboose - 2 box cars and a tank car. Going on 4 weeks .... Good Gawd Gertie, I don't think these people really care about making a buck! As I learned with my initial order, good things come to those who wait, 'n wait, 'n wait ....

Just think of the big bucks you'll have once your round(s) of temporary duty are finished. More to spend on - trains!

By the by - the NEXT Birthday Bash is for Ted and is scheduled for Aug 16th at 8 PM (Eastern Time) - think you can make it [?]

Read the SUMMARIES!

Tom

QUOTE: earlydiesels
Posted: 03 Aug 2005, 13:21:07

Hello everyone. A cold Kokanee, please. Supposed to be near the century mark today, again. The only thing good about hot weather is the women in their skimpy outfits!
Theodorebear and Russell, thanks for the words of encouragement. Sometimes I lie awake nights and wonder what it would be like to get paid for what I enjoy doing--running a locomotive. If it is meant to be, it will happen. As for a different rr, BNSF is the only game in town and no luck with them. The other rr approached me with the job, we were there for a train ride. After they changed tunes about important matters, we came to the same conclusion you did. I am glad their true nature was revealed before we moved over there.

QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 03 Aug 2005, 13:26:50

G'day earlydiesels Dan

You like that Kokanee, eh[?] Good stuff ....

You may be correct regarding hot weather - women and skimpy outfits. I prefer no outfits at all!

Hey! Take another look and you'll find MY comments were FIRST in line. Geesh - Boris Ring the Bell, Dan's buying for violation of Rule #1! [yeah]

Take it slow ....

Tom

QUOTE: West Coast S
Posted: 03 Aug 2005, 18:27:10

Afternoon Tom and the gang.

Cheer up EarlyDiesel, your'e not alone. Prior to returning to the Government sector, I applied with the Yellow Borg "aka" UP for train service out of West Colton , for nine months I heard nothing, two weeks after having returned to duty with a four year commitment, who should call but UP with an offer!

At least BNSF had the courtesy to reject me outright.
I also failed to accept a position with SP back in the day, more to stupidity then anything else..Age does indeed bring wisdom to all.

Tom, mystery man indeed, AM is still giving you fits, they seem to have no problem taking your money, odd they don't mess with me. They likely wonder who this lunaitic is that never orders anything complete, just ship it loose in the box Appreciate the progress reports. Have you considered throwing your money at S Helper Service for the needed equiptment?

Ok Boris, if you can't do it, I will, a Philly cheesesteak sandwich with homefries,coleslaw and a bottomless draught if you'd please and slice of apple cobbler for dessert.

Dave

QUOTE: siberianmo
Posted: 03 Aug 2005, 18:45:09


G'day (again) Dave

Regarding the S-gauge situation: I'm too far along to change the order. Plus, SHS doesn't have what I want - that's the key. There really are only two sources of stuff as far as I'm concerned - AM and SHS. My intermediary, if you can call it that, is an outfit called Port Lines Hobbies.

My initial order included all the track and turnouts from SHS, along with a great looking F7A, a caboose and 5 freight cars.. AM provided an equally great looking EMD E8A and 4 streamlined passenger cars. So, I've got the best of both worlds, so to speak. The pending order with AM will round out my rolling stock, with a GP35, caboose and 3 more freight cars. The idea is to get the roadnames I want, especially with the loco and caboose. I'm sure you already know how difficult it is to locate S-gauge items by roadname, and of course, type of equipment. One gets very spoiled with HO in that nearly everything is not only available, but gets shipped right away.

So, my little 7x8 ft pike is taking form quite nicely. It will be exactly what I intended ... something to play with! Minimal structures and the like, just a focus on the important aspect - the trains!

Appreciate your interest - really do. There are times on these threads where one posts something supposedly of interest - and NEVER even receive so much as a "huh?"

See ya!
Tom

QUOTE: trolleyboy
Posted: 03 Aug 2005, 23:19:08

Howdy hi there everyone. Leon my friend I would like a Guiness please.Tom sorry bout the pictures they were old and in large format shrunk them as best I could with the software I have available.best suggestion is don't click on them, the detail shows up fairly well in the as ;oaded jpeg. *** I'm glad the hessels haven't dampened your trip,i've never been inside a Park car ( or seen one up close ) no such critters on the corridor hopefully the return trip will allow for better picture taking. ted glad you enjoyed the shots. The BSR/BMR were a fairly long lived system 1893 to 1940. They had the usual Maguire cummings single truck sweepers and a dt sprinkler car as well. sadly none of the equipment was saved. I'm guessing wartime recycling claimed most of the railways physical plant.Brantford had electric railway connections up until 1956. The Grand River Railway and the Lake Erie and Northern still stopped down town. Tom Enjoyed the post from the past. Given me some rendezvous ideas . well gents im off for now. Rob

Hi Rob Regarding the Rendezvous – in a word: TRAINS m’boy TRAINS! [swg]

Amazing isn’t it [?] I post a POST FROM THE PAST from Nick and who should appear on that very evening [?] Nick himself! [yeah]
Tom

QUOTE: Gunns
Posted: 04 Aug 2005, 00:43:19

Hi all,
Tom coffee please,
At work again, but are awaiting parts....
Did workday today rang the bell for the first time in 40 years!
Gonna take it easy tonight.
Gunns

Taking it easy is what ”Our” Place should be all about! [tup]
Tom

QUOTE: nickinwestwales
Posted: 04 Aug 2005, 06:53:59

Well howdy Tom & gentlemen all,apologies for extended absence-it has only taken our alleged service provider and our national telecom organisation 6 weeks to trace and rectify the fault on our line-35 years ago we put men on the moon yet these bozos cant even maintain a simple 5 volt connection will take some time out to read the previous 6 weeks postings and summaries and will hopefully be back in the loop sometime this evening,regards to all,back soon,nick

[#welcome] Back, Nick! [yeah][wow][swg] No need to apologize for something completely out of your conrol …. Cyber Gremlilns, et al, seemingly have had you and Chris in Montreal tied in knots for too long a time. Very happy that you’re back and of course, my guess is, things will get back to some semblance of normalcy regarding Boris!

I might have known that you’d take the time to review the posts and SUMMARIES, that’s one of the reasons why you hold the prestigious position as Order of the Permanent Stool [wow]

Looking forward to your resumption of duties as Chief Chef [C=:-)] ‘round here.

By the by, as you may have found out, Ted has assumed the duties of Manager and Interim Chief Chef. He’s really filled quite a void in your absence!

Tom

QUOTE: nickinwestwales
Posted: 04 Aug 2005, 06:56:49

Hed Ted,I see you lurking behind the juke box-come & join us for a couple whilst I catch up

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen the guys cyber handles on this thread – but nothing gets posted. Happened about 4 times yesterday from people that I would have thought had something to say – but, nope – they just checked out. Strange, indeed. Perhaps you frightened Ted away – after all, the Ghosts of Kitchen’s Past [C=:-)] must be looming quite large in the kitchen these days! [swg]

Tom

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That’s it! [tup][;)]
Tom (Siberianmo) [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[nickinwestwales]

Hed Ted,I see you lurking behind the juke box-come & join us for a couple whilst I catch up [C=:-)]

[nickinwestwales]

Well howdy Tom & gentlemen all,apologies for extended absence-it has only taken our alleged service provider and our national telecom organisation 6 weeks to trace and rectify the fault on our line-35 years ago we put men on the moon yet these bozos cant even maintain a simple 5 volt connection [banghead][banghead] will take some time out to read the previous 6 weeks postings and summaries and will hopefully be back in the loop sometime this evening,regards to all,back soon,nick [C=:-)]

[Gunns]

Hi all,
Tom coffee please,
At work again, but are awating parts....
Did workday today rang the bell for the first time in 40 years!
Gonna take it esay tonight.
Gunns

[trolleyboy]

Howdy hi there everyone. Leon my friend I would like a guiness please.Tom sorry bout the pictures they were old and in large format shrunk them as best I could with the software I have available.best suggestion is don't click on them,the detail shows up fairly well in the as ;oaded jpeg. *** I'm glad the hessels haven't dampened your trip,i've never been inside a Park car ( or seen one up close ) no such critters on the corridor hopefully the return trip will allow for better picture taking. ted glad you enjoyed the shots. The BSR/BMR were a fairly long lived system 1893 to 1940. They had the usual Maguire cummings single truck sweepers and a dt sprinkler car as well. sadley none of the equipment was saved. I'm guessing wartime recycling claimed most of the railways physical plant.Brantford had electric railway connections up until 1956. The Grand River Railway and the Lake Erie and Northern still stopped down town. Tom Enjoyed the post from the past. Given me some rendezvous ideas[;)][:-,]. well gents im off for now. Rob

[siberianmo]

G'day (again) Dave

Regarding the S-gauge situation: I'm too far along to change the order. Plus, SHS doesn't have what I want - that's the key. There really are only two sources of stuff as far as I'm concerned - AM and SHS. My intermediary, if you can call it that, is an outfit called Port Lines Hobbies.

My initial order included all the track and turnouts from SHS, along with a great looking F7A, a caboose and 5 freight cars.. AM provided an equally great looking EMD E8A and 4 streamlined passenger cars. So, I've got the best of both worlds, so to speak. The pending order with AM will round out my rolling stock, with a GP35, caboose and 3 more freight cars. The idea is to get the roadnames I want, especially with the loco and caboose. I'm sure you already know how difficult it is to locate S-gauge items by roadname, and of course, type of equipment. One gets very spoiled with HO in that nearly everything is not only available, but gets shipped right away.

So, my little 7x8 ft pike is taking form quite nicely. It will be exactly what I intended ... something to play with! [swg] Minimal structures and the like, just a focus on the important aspect - the trains!

Appreciate your interest - really do. There are times on these threads where one posts something supposedly of interest - and NEVER even receive so much as a "huh?"

See ya!
Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[West Coast S]

Afternoon Tom and the gang.

Cheer up EarlyDiesel, your'e not alone. Prior to returning to the Government sector, I applied with the Yellow Borg "aka" UP for train service out of West Colton , for nine months I heard nothing, two weeks after having returned to duty with a four year commitmment, who should call but UP with an offer!

At least BNSF had the courtesy to reject me outright.
I also failed to accept a position with SP back in the day, more to stupidity then anything else..Age does indeed bring wisdom to all.


Tom, mystery man indeed, AM is still giving you fits, they seem to have no problem taking your money, odd they don't mess with me. They likely wonder who this lunaitic is that never orders anything complete, just ship it loose in the box[yeah] Appreciate the progress reports. Have you considered throwing your money at S Helper Service for the needed equiptment?

Ok Boris, if you can't do it, I will, a Philly cheesesteak sandwich with homefries,coleslaw and a bottomless draught if you'd please and slice of apple cobbler for dessert.

Dave [tup]

[siberianmo]

G'day earlydiesels Dan

You like that Kokanee, eh[?] Good stuff .... [tup]

You may be correct regarding hot weather - women and skimpy outfits. I prefer no outfits at all! [:-,][}:)]

Hey! Take another look and you'll find MY comments were FIRST in line. Geesh - Boris Ring the Bell, Dan's buying for violation of Rule #1! [yeah]

Take it slow .... [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[Anonymous]

Hello everyone. A cold Kokanee, please. Supposed to be near the century mark today, again. The only thing good about hot weather is the women in their skimpy outfits!
Theodorebear and Russell, thanks for the words of encouragement. Sometimes I lie awake nights and wonder what it would be like to get paid for what I enjoy doing--running a locomotive. If it is meant to be, it will happen. As for a different rr, BNSF is the only game in town and no luck with them. The other rr approached me with the job, we were there for a train ride. After they changed tunes about important matters, we came to the same conclusion you did. I am glad their true nature was revealed before we moved over there.

[siberianmo]

G'day West Coast S Dave

Man, it's feast or famine with our West Coast Man of Mystery these days. Now you see him, now you don't! Well, glad you're back, so pull up that Reserved Stool and have a beer 'n some lunch! [tup]

Got part of my S-gauge order yesterday - three structures from Ameican Model Builders: Interlocking Tower - Yard Office and Gandy Dancer's Shack. I've used this manufacturer before on my HO Can-Am layout and really think highly of the quality. Looking forward to the construction. Still awaiting those trains - GP35 w/caboose - 2 box cars and a tank car. Going on 4 weeks .... Good Gawd Gertie, I don't think these people really care about making a buck! [:O] As I learned with my initial order, good things come to those who wait, 'n wait, 'n wait .... [:D]

Just think of the big bucks you'll have once your round(s) of temporary duty are finished. More to spend on - trains! [yeah]

By the by - the NEXT Birthday Bash is for Ted and is scheduled for Aug 16th at 8 PM (Eastern Time) - think you can make it [?] [(-D]

Read the SUMMARIES!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[West Coast S]

Morning Tom and the gang

Just catching up on the topics over the last several days and one in particular got my attention. The Santa Fe heavyweights in silver with black stripes were actually painted using a technique known as "Shadow Paint" for the three demensional effect.

I don't think more then half a dozen modernized chair cars were so done, and slight variations could be found in all. SF was pleased with the visual end result, but not the labor involved and thus decided not to persue it any further. Not only SF, FRISCO and BURLINGTON had a few heavyweights in "Shadow Paint".

As to the proper shade of green, it depends on age, enviroment, quality of paint plus the shop that did the painting, so variations would not be uncommon. SF passenger equiptment could be found frequently in pool service and if wreck repairs were effected by a host road, that too could effect the shade of green.


Not all SF heavyweights vanished to the scrap heap, a sizeable number of former MW heavyweights survived in storage as late as 1983 at Barstow,CA, they appeared to be in good condition, some with fresh aluminum paint and little modified from their revenue days, types included: fishbelly baggage cars, coaches, diners, RPOs and one ancient, orginally wood, rebuilt with steel sheathing, observation car with the rear platform fully enclosed. If I hadn't been distracted by the long line of retired F7B RC and Alco units stored on the adjacent track I would have recorded frame numbers and build dates for future lookup ..



Attention all passenger fans. A unsolicited, Shameless plug for Volume II SP sleepers and dormoritory cars from all car building years, available from the SP Historical Society. Ordered my copy yesterday

Well i'm off to sally up some more coffee and sticky buns and check my company E mail for anything of substance. I do have a temp assignment i'm awaiting orders for, followed by a second TDY to San Diego, looks like a busy month.

Until Later



Dave[tup]