"OUR" PLACE - SEE NEW THREAD!

[siberianmo]

G'day alstom Richard

[#welcome] Aboard! From the way you phrased your comments, it would appear that you are a novice to the Forums - but then again, looking at the number of Posts you have, I'd say that doesn't jive. Soooooooo, here goes: Wanna know about us [?] Strongly suggest you start at the beginning - page 1. Then go through the pages - paying particular attention to the comments contained in the opening remarks of the SUMMARIES. You'll catch on in no time .... [tup]

We are a cyber bar 'n grill where the discussion of Classic Trains real or model is what we strive for. All with a lot of adult humor injected from time to time. We are NOT like the other threads and don't want to be. Around here we speak to one another and acknowledge the comments made. No hit 'n run stuff here - not welcome at all.

So, if you should decide to stop in again and join in on some adult conv ersation - we'll be happy to have you! Oh yes, first drink is on the house!

By the by, we appreciate knowing who we are talking to and your profile really helps! Thanx ...... [tup]

Tom, Proprietor of "Our" Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[Anonymous]

"The reports of my demise have been greatly exaggerated!"[;)] Sorry for the Samuel Clemens paraphrase, couldn't think of anything more appropriate.[:-^] There has been a flury of activity at "Our" Place since my last posting and it will take several installments to "catch me up" on it all.[:O] Otherwise, it would require a "hard bound" edition for a singlular reply.[xx(] I see the cyber "Gremlins" have haunted more than a few of us recently. Seems that no one is immune: DSL broad band, cable, dial-up, et al.

Tom, if I may, a Crown and soda w/twist would be most welcome and a 'round for all kindred souls gathered here, thanks. Hey, the "new" look of the Summaries are as practical as they are functional.[tup] Good thinking from "the Head Shed." Perhaps for now, all of you may forgive the brevity of this Post until I can catch my breath for a more lengthy offering.[:I] Allow me to be the last to welcome wolf man Pete to this fine Establishment for sharing mutual thoughts and activities focusing on "Classic Trains" and rail transportation from around the world. Also, a special welcome "States Side" Pete. Some of the best contributions come from our cousins and neighbors.[:D] Don't mean to leave ayone out, so alstom please read the first few pages of the "Our" Place site for "testing the waters."[tup]

[C=:-)] Nick the "highland supper evening" sounds incredible. Wouldn't miss it for anything. Al, by George you've done it again.[bow] Everything I wanted to know about the Pullman maintenance program and was too ignorant to ask. Rob, thanks for the great mail and subtle humo(u)r. It is totally appreciated.[(-D] Chris it is always a good to read your positive input on so many esoteric subjects. Great to see you "back in the saddle again." As to all of you "proactive" guys doing the "nitty gritty" to save what remains of the "Golden Years;" please know that you are appreciated beyond reckoning.[tup] I just don't know how the deuce you manage in this summer Haydes.

I'm certainly looking forward to the "four toasts" to "Our" Place and the great comradeship that is made possible by "we few..." This Thread away from "threads" is indeed worthy of our mutual praise, don't you think?[^] Okay Boris, one peel and only one please. A few of the clientele have gone into "bell shock" already and my "relative pitch" is fading fast![:(] See all of you Friday, I hope. Happy rails, Ted

[CFournier]

Hello all,
PWOLF, what is an A4? I go to the Delson museum once or twice a year and we have a Flying Scottsman here. But an A4???
Chris

[alstom]

Can somebody tell me about what this thread is?? It's been up here for awhile...and I don't come to "Classic Trains" to much. Thanks,

Richard

[siberianmo]

Howdy passengerfan Al

Diet pastries - [yeah]Right! [swg] But, help yourself ......

Given that's it's my fantasy trip to Colorado, I'll take the Eagle BEFORE deterioration set in! [swg]

Whenever I get into my not-so-impressive library of hard cover RR books, I just want to shout when it comes to what was and now what is! Can't handle it. The Union Station here in St. Louis was sooooooo busy and there were soooooooo many fine trains (and not so fine ones to be sure) going pretty much anywhere one desired within the US and Canada. Change is good [?] Oh, I suppose so - but I long for the days of yore - really do.

Thanx for the info and trip to nostalgia!
Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[passengerfan]

Good Morning All Guess i'll have cup of joe and one of those diet breakfast goodies from the Mentor Bakery.
The Colorado Eagle in its day was a fine train but near the end it was not much. The better choice was the City of St. Louis a fine streamliner that was eventually cut back to Kansas City. But another option at one time was to take the CB&Q to Burlington Iowa and take tht Denver Zephyr from their. That route was faster then the Colorado Eagle but slower than the City of St. Louis. A fourth option would have taken you to KC on the CB&Q and switch to the Rock Island for the trip to Denver on the Rocky Mountain Rocket. The latter choice was the slowest and it went out of service the earliest. A fifth choice was the CB&Q, MP, or Waba***o Kansas City then take the Santa Fe from KC to La Junta then on to Denver. This route was a match for the Colorado Eagle time wise but a really first class option. Now you can take Amtrak from St. Louis to Chicago and board the California Zephyr for Denver.
As for the Colorado Narrow gauge never rode the Chama service but did take the Durango/ Silverton about twelve years ago and it was incredible. Always had a thing for the Narrow Gauge railroads and was certainly glad to experience the Newfoundland Narrow Gauge before its demise. I know they were not streamliners but the CN Newfoundland Narrow gauge came close with some of their cars.

[siberianmo]

Mornin' earlydiesels Dan

Have you noticed, we've got another interested customer from Jefferson City in our midst[?] Scroll back a bit - you'll find him. Goes by pwolfe Pete .....

I want to go to Colorado too - but from St. Louis on one of the Eagles. Think you can arrange it[?]

Enjoy the day!
Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[Anonymous]

Morning all. I'll take a hot cup of joe and some of those goodies from the Mentor Bakery, please. Just checking in to see what I've missed since yesterday.
I am training a fellow up at the Midland. He is trying to be there every time I run. I don't know how many trips he has as fireman but since I am an engineer instructor I am trying to get him comfortable with the engines. Anyway, he has been copying some narrow guage tapes for me and I have been watching those. Now more than ever, I want to go to Colorado!

[siberianmo]

CHANGE HAS ARRIVED!

The new format for the SUMMARY replaces all of the redundancy of reposting your messages. As you can determine, the daily blurb from me will contain News and Summary sections.

As always, I will try to respond to each and every post – but not within the SUMMARY. I’ll try to catch up with the late night posts first thing in the morning, followed by the NEWS and SUMMARY.

How to use [?] Simply scroll up or go back to your last visit and read what’s been posted!

Use this as a guide to show who has visited ”Our” Place since the last SUMMARY.

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

WEDNESDAY’s NEWS & SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS

Good Morning All! Another day, another chance to do well for the boss! [yeah][wow][tup] Okay – ‘nuf of that …….

How about a cuppa Joe and some great pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery or a light breakfast[?]

News of the day:

(1) This Friday, August 12th is the 4th month of existence for ”Our” Place on the Classic Trains Forum. We are going to have a special event taking place all day – drop by and offer 4 toasts to the continued success of our cyber bar ‘n grill and you’ll get a free frosty tankard of your favorite draught – or – a hefty glass of JD or Crown Royal! [tup]

Bonus: That night, Nick, Chief Chef [C=:-)] will prepare a feast for all – in his own words:

QUOTE: Highland supper evening,---first the ****`a`leekie soup ,then the haggis piped in with due ceremony and observance, next ,the days bag of grouse( actually the birds shot the previous week) a citrus fruit sorbet, a whole double haunch of Welsh black beef roasted mid-well on the outside & mid-rare in the middle followed at a decent interval by a bottle or 6 of a decent single malt

Well, if that doesn’t do it – remember, it’s also Pizza Nite and Steak ‘n Fries nite ‘round here – so be sure to stop by! [tup]

(2) The SUMMARY has undergone a change. Scroll up to read about it …….. This will be the new format, with perhaps a tweak here or there …. But no more redundancy of posts.

Enjoy this fine day one and all!

SUMMARY:
Name - Date/Time - (Page#) - Remarks
(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 09 Aug 2005, 08:32:35 (69) Tuesday’s Summary

(2) siberianmo Tom Posted: 09 Aug 2005, 09:38:46 (69) Change to Summary format

(3) siberianmo Tom Posted: 09 Aug 2005, 12:23:52 (69) Customer list

(4) CFournier Chris Posted: 09 Aug 2005, 13:41:39 (69)

(5) siberianmo Tom Posted: 09 Aug 2005, 13:47:47 (69) S-gauge pix

(6) siberianmo Tom Posted: 09 Aug 2005, 13:53:11 (69)

(7) earlydiesels Dan Posted: 09 Aug 2005, 14:07:40 (69)

(8) siberianmo Tom Posted: 09 Aug 2005, 14:53:30 (69)

(9) passengerfan Al Posted: 09 Aug 2005, 15:18:30 (69) Pullman info

(10) siberianmo Tom Posted: 09 Aug 2005, 15:34:16 (69)

(11) West Coast S Dave Posted: 09 Aug 2005, 16:38:48 (69)

(12) siberianmo Tom Posted: 09 Aug 2005, 17:27:55 (69)

(13) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 09 Aug 2005, 19:06:05 (69)

(14) siberianmo Tom Posted: 09 Aug 2005, 19:18:09 (69)

(15) Gunns Kevin Posted: 09 Aug 2005, 19:26:32 (69)

(16) siberianmo Tom Posted: 09 Aug 2005, 19:45:34 (69)

(17) passengerfan Al Posted: 09 Aug 2005, 20:38:37 (69)

(18) pwolfe Pete Posted: 09 Aug 2005, 21:03:47 (69) Second visit and updated profile!

(19) passengerfan Al Posted: 09 Aug 2005, 22:14:31 (70)

(20) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 09 Aug 2005, 22:34:14 (70)

(21) passengerfan Al Posted: 09 Aug 2005, 23:01:06 (70)

[22] siberianmo Tom Posted: 10 Aug 2005, 08:03:48 (70)

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That’s it! [tup][;)]
Tom (Siberianmo) [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[siberianmo]

A Good Morning Catch-up to the nite and early morning posts:

passengerfan Al – Nice write up about those passenger shops ….Boggles the mind to think of the huge industries that sprouted up ‘round the railroads and then …. Pffffffft, gone. Just as with the U.S. flag steamship companies. Once upon a time ……

pwolfe Pete [#welcome] Back! [tup] Must have been those two freebies that brought you back, eh [?][swg] Glad to have you ‘round and hope to see more of ya! [yeah] Looks like Wolfman may stick with you now that you’ve been anointed by our British Isles connection, Nick, who is also the Chief Chef ‘round here.

Appreciate your taking the time to provide us with a bit of info within your profile. Really helps us get to know one another ….. [tup] Thanx, Pete!

Jefferson City – well I’ll be. Another neighbor. We’ve got earlydiesel’s Dan down in Springfield and yours truly in Chesterfield. Perhaps a mini-rendezvous is in order! [swg]

On the serious side, I take Amtrak on a daytime roundtrip to JCity every now ‘n then. Last time was on St. Pat’s Day – took a friend along for his B’day present. We wound up going all the way to KCity – total of 15 ½ hours on the train that day …. Never got off in KCity, just hit the Wye …. Picked up the new passengers and headed east. Why, you say [?] Union Pacific had the tracks chock blocked with freights and we spent hours and hours in sididngs. Got into JCity 2 hours late with the eastbound having passed us by shortly after we left Hemann. Ugh.

Also, I used to belong to a group that met quarterly in JCity with MoDOT and others to discuss Amtrak in Missouri; its funding – its future, etc. The group probably still meets, but after 4 years of [banghead] with these folks and recognizing that Amtrak is, has been and probably always will be a hand-to-mouth organization, I decided to use my time in more productive ways.

A pint of Batham’s comin’ up …. Good choice from the mother country … fine Ale indeed. [tup]

Be seein’ ya!

passengerfan Al Thanx for the info on the Canadian Rail museums – I was about to post this info, up until I noticed your post! [tup]

Trolleyboy Rob Thanx for stopping in …. Always good to see you, however – how come we only get to share your thoughts so late and usually only once per day [?] Where are my spooks when I need ‘em – Inspector Clueless of the Local Constabulary and his earstwhile buddy, Mr. Doyle, Private Investigator will have to be commissioned to look into your whereabouts …….. unless…..

Appreciate the endorsement for the S-gauge … [yeah] It is coming along rather well, slowly, but moving on. Today is THE day – the remainder of my long awaited final order is to arrive. A GP35, a caboose, two box cars and a tank car. Awwwwwright! I’ll post a pix or two ….

Time will tell regarding the new format for the SUMMARIES. It’s been an exasperating ride, for sure ……. And yes, I’ll be able to devote my time to other endeavors for sure.

passengerfan Al VIA Rail operates somewhat like a think tank these days and has done so since the former CEO, Rod Morrison took over. This Renaissance name wasn’t necessarily pulled out of a hat, however, you can bet railroaders had very little to do with the selection. The whole sorry mess with those Chunnel Chuggers darned near broke their budget with Ottawa paying close attention to the spending. The book is still out on ‘em, however, sorry to say – they will be in service for years to come.

I’ll dig through my archives of contacts and send you an Email with a name or two. Perhaps some help is on the way regarding VIA Rail …..

See ya all later!]
Tom, Proprietor of "Our" Place

[passengerfan]

Good Evening one last time tonight, I'll have a CR and give the boys and any ladies present a round as well. Trolleyboy the mystery envelope has U.S. Postage so that lets Bytown out. Looks like it came from Maryland MD can make that much out on the cancellation. By the way The Canadian Trackside guide they put out has an incredible amount of information in it. Still haven't been able to take it all in yet. Still need info on start up dates and consists where known of several Canadian passenger trains. Will have to get my list to find which ones I still need. But do need start dates and consists for the LRC trains, the Tempo trains also need dates the renaissance equipment first entered service and consist if possible. Have to wonder why Via Rail did not name the new Renaissance sleeping cars only used numbers. Looking at the number of renaissance sleeping cars they received think they should have named them GROVE series after the old CPR 10-5 sleeping cars. At least giving sleeping cars names takes them out of the every day run of the mill passenger car numbering. So far Via has not been helpful where train information is needed. I have even placed long distance calls to them without any luck. To bad they don't have a historian like CPR Omar Lavallee was. I don't think I spelled his name right but when I resided in Canada mean't the fine gentlman several times. Amtrak needs a historian as well.

[trolleyboy]

Good evening everyone.Tom A guiness or a harps would be nice. Iv'e as stated have had the old intermitant internet lately but thankfully I've been able to keep up. As for the posts, theree's been several interesting things i was able to sink the teeth into out on the "other forums" but hey i've always got to come back to see what Boris and the gang are up to.Pwolf The quebec museu is just outside of Montreal in Delson. Their collection runs the gammet from electric to diesel to steam to passenger and friegth cars you name it. It would not suprise me if they had the loco you were looking for. I'll defer to Chris though as he's fairly local to the museum in question and has been there recently.Nickyes that is an interesting bit of layout isn't it. I could see it making for a decent interurban or streetcar layout.Add a streetcar wyre or a turning loop on either end and you would be set for continuous running.Labelle woodworkinng and bowser make some halfways decent rolling stock for either option. Bowser can set you up with some decent functioning or non-functioning overhead if you so desire as well.Let me know if you've any further queries or e-mail me.al I'm overawed as always by the breadth of your repository of knowledge.Any idea who sent you that mystery package yet? One would wonder if all the separate Pullman facilities may have in some small way helped end the classic passenger era.All that "service' provided by pullman must have directly impacted the bottom line of the railroads. Diuplication of service and all that.earlyI'm like chris i love hearing the nautical stories. I hope they do give some closure to the families,I would think the not knowing where would rest very heavily on them.Chris Did you catch the Discovery channel documentayr on the finding and exploring of the wreck of HMCS Athabaskin in the bay of Biscay. It was on around Easter.They had some interesting theories on the damage it recieved. From tthe obvious torpedo hits ( where they were located on the hull ) They are now thinking that she was damaged by the German Elbings she and Haida engaged but that the fatal torpedo hit may have been a friendly fire incedent involving a couple of British MTB's that came accross the engagement.pTom I like the new summery idea looks as though it will be a bit less manpower intensive for you.You should be able to enjoy yourself more.I have to say that the "s" looks as though it's shaping up nicely.It was an interesting thread on the forums as well, kind of answers some of the assumptions I was having recently. It's nice that joe tends to explain things in English as opposed to alot of meaningless jargon. Well I'm off for now. Museum crew tomorrow. 90 degree heat and tie's awaiting. Nite all. Rob

[passengerfan]

Hi one more time and i'll have my usual CR and another round for the house. Pwolfe the Canadian Railroad Museum is located at Delson a suburb of Montreal in Quebec province. Another great Canadian Museum is located in Ottawa and the war museum is worth a visit too.

[pwolfe]

HI TOM and all
Two free drinks - try and keep me away. Thanks for the kind greetings. It is a long time since I was called wolfman. It brought back good memories. In fact I used to be a werewolf but I'm alright NOOOOOOOO. Sorry English joke.

I am reading the summeries - so much good information. I am hoping perhaps someone could help me ? My wife and I went to Green Bay WI to the N.R.M there, a great museum. They have a British A4 loco DWIGHT D EISENHOWER as well as a BIG BOY a Pennssy electric and other fine locos. My question: is there is another A4 in the CANADIAN RAILROAD MUSEUM. I believe it is Quebec province. If someone could tell me exactly where it would be most helpful.

I hope this is not [#offtopic]. I will get a round in anyway. I'll have pint of Bathams!

[passengerfan]

Good Evening All Time for a Crown Royal and a round for the house.
Gunns You asked about the Santa Fe passenger shops in New Mexico. Cant say for sure but would guess that the cars for trains in New Mexico such as the El Pasoan that operated from Albuquerque and the trains in and out of Clovis were probably sent east to Topeka for anything major. Probably any minor work was done outside. Several railroads would sometimes join together for major passenger car work such was the case with the NP and GN at John St. in Seattle. It was not unusual to see the trucks being changed on a GN or NP car that needed to be out that afternoon after arrival from Chicago in the early AM. John St. for the most part was where the GN and NP trains were washed inside and out and the dining cars replenished from the commissary for the trip east. John St. was a busy west coast passenger terminal during the fifties handling 3 daily Internationals, 1 Cascadian, 1 Empire Builder, 1Western Star and 1 Fast Mail daily and a Seattle -Portland train for the GN and for the NP a daily Seattle- Portland train, Seattle-Spokane train, North Coast Limited and Mainstreeter. Trying from memory they had two inspection pits long enough to check five or six cars at a time. The interior cleaning was also done in this area, and the last thing before the trains were sent to King Street was a trip through the car washer. When the trains arrived at King St. they first had to be turned around and that was about a five mile trip from the station to the Y. The NP received four SP painted passenger cars for the Cascade from Union Station where they arrive on the UP pool train from Portland. An NP switcher or sometimes a GN switcher brought them from under fourth Ave. where the UP set them out. They departed the next morning before noon on the NP Seattle-Portland pool train. The UP had one trip daily in and out of Union Station and the Milwaukee Road had two until they were discontinued. The Milwaukee serviced their trains in Tacoma at their own Station for the return trips east and the UP serviced their Seattle-Portland train right at Union Station for its return to Portland. I don't remember seeing the UP pool train being washed in Seattle other than the outside glass got a fast wash and rinse.

[siberianmo]

Evenin' Gunns Kevin

There's no one quite like passengerfan Al and aren't we fortunate that he's one of the regulars 'round here [?] Any wonder why he's a member of the Order of the Permanent Stools[?]

It's good to see the interaction going on ...... Enjoy the Amber! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[Gunns]

HiTom,
A cold amber ale please,
passengerfan that was exactly what I was looking for, I wonder where the local shop for the AT&SF was in New Mexico?

Work day tomorrow, and I found yet another part to make for the bell.... it seems I need a 3inch by .25 inch washer to put on top of the bell hanger, <it seems this is the backup support if the press fit fails> Also I noticed that our bell is brass, I know that the 2926 was delivered with a cast Iron bell <war time shortages of brass> does any one know when / If Santa Fe replaced all the cast iron bells?
Luck to All,
Gunns

[siberianmo]

Evenin' Nick

Thought I saw you lurkin' in the shadows awhile ago. A bit of catch-up, methinks. [swg]

Hope we see pwolfe again - Wolfman is a good handle, by the by! [tup] However, as seems to be the case more times than not - we welcome 'em, and that's that. Hope I'm wrong ....... Just a case of being a special kinda place for special kinda people ....

[yeah] This S-gauge stuff is really just as you posed - like a return to the play-days of years gone by. I don't recall having a cold one in my hand while operating the throttles back then! [:D]

But, in all seriousity (that's in my lexicon of homemade words ....) there's not a thing wrong with a trip back to the carefree days of youth. Plus, we get to stay up as late as we wish! [swg]

G'nite Mate!
Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[nickinwestwales]

Well good evening all,Tom ,I`ll take a Staropramen from the back fridge please,a round for the stools and your good self,small somethings for Boris And Leon and as I`ve had a good week,a round of long-necks for the track gang-provided they stop that awful singing. Right,whose in tonight,--Wolfman,hi,come over and have a drink with a fellow Brit,Chris-hope things are progressing according to plan on the health front-TrolleyRob-just got the Aug M.R.,that Concord & Claremont big scale project could work well as an H.O. combined Interurban & shortline in a smaller space--any thoughts ? Tom, `S`capades looking good-return to roots can be suprisingly cathartic,just running trains in circles for the pure pleasure of it............lovely !!!!!-at risk of getting all metaphysical & mysterious,I think this is as close to a return to childhood as any of us get,and none the worse for that in my opinion,best wishes to all,moonlight mile calls,nick[C=:-)]

[siberianmo]

G'day West Coast S

House draught is something made right here in St. Louis, MO, USA - Budweiser - regular or light - your choice! Enjoy. [tup]

Nice post Dave -that's the way to do it - include the guys and the payback is full of dividends for all.

[yeah] The S-gauge is coming along nicely. I actually enjoyed putting those building kits together - made by American Model Builders, St. Louis, MO - even though I'd like to share my thoughts with the guy(s) who wrote the instruction pages. Somewhat different for each model, although they should have been the same insofar as basic stuff is concerned. Why oh why do some folks just have to make the simple into the complex[?] Anyway, some good news today - Port Lines Hobbies up in Mass. has finally shipped my long awaited order from AM. Supposed to be here tomorrow. Hooray! That should put an end to the $$$$ dollar drain from the Model Railroad Expansion Fund (well, at least for now [swg])!

Ready for 'nother one[?]

See ya ....
Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[West Coast S]

Afternoon Tom and the gang...

Lots of good classic trains talk and classic tales from the sea, Good info on Pullman maintaince Passengerfan, I wasn't aware they had a shop in Richmond, my old stomping grounds back in the day, alas too late to Observe any Pullman activities .

Earlydiesels, I well remember that debate concearning the correct formula for Russian Iron, I don't think it was ever resolved, seems SP had no problem with color. The only special paint T-3 4-8-0 stands out due to the apple green applied to the exterior of the cab, i've found no other examples (excepting the GS Daylight, A class and a few MTs) of other SP steam that wore any color other then standard black on the cab sides.

Gunns, speaking of tools...My wife gave me about 500lbs of homemade bodyshop tools, formally belonging to her late father, don't know what i'll ever use them for, although I own six classic cars, I haven't the nerve to attempt bodywork on irreplaceable or extremely costly to replace sheetmetal . Just the same, there is something about having the right tool for the job should the need ever arise and the courage factor is willing .

Tom, project S scale looking good, progress is being made despite the setbacks with you know who..

Well, off the fixins and cold house draught.

Dave[tup]

[siberianmo]

G'day passengerfan Al

Well, if anyone 'round here would have the answer - I knew it had to be YOU! [tup] There's the answer to your question, Gunns Kevin

Thanx for the drink - ring the bell NOW Boris - Boris[?] Where the ..... is he[?] C'mon back in, and leave that Engineer alone! Geesh ..... [swg]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[passengerfan]

Good afternoon all Time for a Crown royal and a round for the house. About that pullman ? The answer is Pullman maintained their own shops for the work on sleeping cars leased to them. Pullman had several shops around the country for the maintenance of the passenger cars. Richmond CA was one and their were several others around the country as well. At their shops they did virtually everything and they contracted with several railroads for light maintenance and laundry etc. Apparently their standards were very high where maintenance was concerned and they would deadhead a similar car to replace one that needed major work as they insisted on doing that work in their own shops. That is one of the reasons their are so many photos out their of sleeping cars being deadheaded at the head of different passenger trains. For most trains originating in Chicago the sleeping cars carried enough bedding and towels for a round trip. Not so for the CITY OF SAN FRANCISCO, SAN FRANCISCO OVERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO CHIEF or CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR since Pullman maintained major facilities in Richmond as well. In some cities Pullman laundry was farmed out to private cleaners. Richmond was known to have dome major car changes as well such as converting the round end observations of the LARK to Blunt end cars. In turn Pullman did much rebuilding work for the railroads that did not have adequate shops of their own.

[siberianmo]

G'day earlydiesels Dan

It's beginning to sound like a Church 'round here with the ringing of that blasted bell! Will you cease and desist, Boris[?]! Why not go outside and play on the double-tracked mainline[?] [}:)]

Nice post, Dan That's the way to do it! A bit of something for everyone ... [tup] .... except the barkeep! [tdn]

Enjoy the Guiness ....... [swg]
Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[Anonymous]

Hello everyone and a welcome to the new faces! Beware of Boris!. Tom, I'll take the usual Guiness, please.
Dave, I had no idea the SP used so many colors on its late steam. Just about every railroad in the 19th century had colorful engines until the "paint it black" phase took hold. Back in the 1970s I remember the model rr mags had a long running discussion about the exact shade of Russian Iron for boiler jackets.
Passengerfan, it would appear your mystery benefactor wants history done right and feels you can do it. I would be honored and a shade curious.
Coalminer3, always enjoy reading about pass trains. It is difficult for me to fathom getting on a train to actually go somewhere and also difficult to imagine the service, quality, and pride that accompanied that journey.
Chris, what exactly is the name of the rr with the FAs? I want to look it up. I am an Alco fan. Suppose you could talk your way into getting some cab interior pictures??? About the sub, last week the local rag(newspaper) had an article about some private divers finding a WW2 sub near Thailand that sank in 1945. There are 4 families in this area that had members aboard and the Navy doesn't want to investigate to confirm the identity. I can't remember the name and we threw out the paper. You might be able to look it up on the website.
Boris, you just have to ring the bell once, not on and on! I' ll take another Guiness, Tom.

[siberianmo]

Hey Chris! Two days in a row .. this is getting to be a good habit my friend!

Well, if we see pwolf again, I'll be sure to provide him with that drink on YOU!

One frosty cold Rolling Rock ...... comin' your way!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

For: "Our" Place Customers who appreciate model railroading .......

Some progress with my S-gauge layout:
(click to enlarge)




Check out the remainder at my photo album:
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/thomasweber
Go to pages 5 & 6

Enjoy!
Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[CFournier]

HI there. A cold Rolling Rock please.
Earlydiesel, what is the story about this sub found near Thailand? I know it's off topic but i would like to know anyway.[^] And a big welcome to the new guy on page 68 PWOLF, HAVE A DRINK ON ME[:D]
CHRIS

[siberianmo]

THE CUSTOMERS of ”Our” Place as of August 9th, 2005

Al – passengerfan, first visit: 12 April 2005 – 2nd CHARTER MEMBER!

Chris – CFournier, first visit: 12 April 2005 – 1st CHARTER MEMBER!

------------- coalminer3, first visit: 14 April 2005

Dan – earlydiesels, first visit: 16 April 2005

Dave – West Coast S, first visit: 14 April 2005

*** – wrwatkins, first visit: 2 May 2005

Doug – barndad, first visit: 12 July 2005

Kevin – Gunns, first visit: 28 June 2005

Nick – nickinwestwales, first visit: 27 April 2005

Rob – trolleyboy, first visit: 12 April 2005 -CHARTER MEMBER

Russell – Trainnut 484, first visit: 27 June 2005

Ted – Theodorebear (and then some!), first visit: 2 May 2005

That’s the list of folks we see ‘round here.

Tom Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!