QUOTE: Trainnut484 Posted: 27 Jun 2005, 15:52:18 Posts: 449 Joined: 09 Oct 2002 Location: Kansas City Just a friendly reminder for those at or soon will be trackside in the summer heat. Be sure to pack alot of bottled water, something to snack on, and a place to get in out of the heat. Have a safe summer . Take care, Russell
QUOTE: passengerfan Posted: 29 July 2005, 08:32:23 Good Morning All Just time for coffee and a pastry fro the Mentor bakery. Tom The Shower was incorporated in the bathroom annex The toilet shower doubled for both purposes similar to those in Amtraks deluxe bedrooms today.
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 29 July 2005, 09:09:57 Good morning passengerfan Al Thanx for the response and info! That term, annex kinda threw me off - whenever I think of an annex it generally means something separate and apart - more like adjacent to. Sorry - but words to me are meant to be defined. All of the water closets within the drawing rooms of those Park Cars have been located within the room, rather than adjacent to them. Sooooooooo, I now have the proverbial big picture. Ahhhhh, life is good. By the by, you should have received your Email by now regarding the Order of the Permanent Stools. Enjoy! Tom
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 29 July 2005, 09:27:01 G'day all! For those of us who have been discussing the retro livery on some loco's lately - UP, especially, check out this URL: http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=40876 It may be far fetched, but it does offer another insight to it all. Comments Tom FOR ALL: PLEASE READ THE SUMMARIES!
QUOTE: earlydiesels Posted: 29 July 2005, 14:08:02 Hello all! A cold, bottomless draught please. Barndad, I knew IRM would not have any self guarded frogs. When the Russian Revolution occurred, those Decapods were adapted to domestic service by several ways, depending on the source. Usually the drive wheels and tires were left as is, which led to problems with this style of frog. I like the guard frogs on patrol. Kind of like when I used to Civil War reenact, we'd go to a restaurant, store,or etc, and be in uniform. The strange looks we'd receive would be met by the explanation that we were militant Amish. Theodorebear, I stand corrected about the KC,StJ & CC. There was a narrow guage steam rr that used to run thru Independence and that area that in my mind was this road. CRS is a terrible thing. Tom and Trolleyboy, let me know when you can make it to the Midland. The best bet would be a regular service weekend instead of a special event.
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 29 July 2005, 14:20:52 G'day earlydiesels Dan Good to see ya! One frosty cold, bottomless draught right in front of ya! Ain't no way anyone from this place would venture a trip to the Midland without first letting you know about it! Geesh - after all, you're buying the first couple of rounds! As I've indicated - the fall is when I'm thinking about it. Weekends for me might prove a bit difficult - but we can work that out as we get closer to the date. Militant Amish [?] Enjoy! Tom
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 29 July 2005, 14:31:09 One of our guys has brought it to my attention that he hasn't seen the listing for the Order of the Stools in awhile .... so here it is: Order of the Stools Permanent Stool Chris First customer, Barrister and Quebec connection Permanent Stool Ted Manager of “Our” Place and interim Chief Chief . Customer with unparalleled good cheer and determination Permanent Stool Nick Chief Chef of “Our” Place and customer supreme from West Wales Permanent Stool Trolleyboy Rob If it concerns street cars, talk to me! – and Ontario connection Permanent Stool Passengerfan Al Walking, talking “Classic Train” aficionado and author from California Reserved Stool *** Watkins Rail aficionado , enthusiast, world traveler – and Texas connection Reserved Stool earlydiesels Dan Restorations are us! … And train lover at large Reserved Stool West Coast S Dave California man of mystery , real and model rail enthusiast, and west coast connection Reserved Stool coalminer 3 Northeast rail aficionado and West Virginia connection Reserved Stool Gunns Kevin Machinist, loco restorationist supreme and New Mexico connection Reserved Stool Trainnut484 Russell AT&SF and rail enthusiast, model railroader and Kansas connection. There will be a meeting in August of the Selection Committee to consider additions and changes in status amongst the members. Tom’ (Siberianmo) Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 29 July 2005, 14:35:00 THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT ”Our” Place: 1. This is a cyber bar ‘n grill for adults who appreciate Classic Trains – real and model – and enjoy a bit of humor while discussing them. 2. This thread was started as an alternative to those where hit ‘n run postings are the norm. Here, we strive to be inclusive with all who participate as regulars. There will be those who stop by to check us out and they will receive an appropriate [welcome] from the Proprietor along with encouragement to join us. Keep in mind, this is not the typical thread seen elsewhere. One has to earn a regular place at this bar. 3. To be a regular all one needs to remember is to participate and contribute to the topic on a regular basis. 4. We have a Birthday Watch List for all regulars. To sign up, just provide your birth date (month-date-year). We’ll schedule a cyber Birthday Bash for you on the day of your choice. 5. We have an Order of the Stools Club whereby regular customers of the bar receive recognition as either permanent or reserved holders of ”Our” Place bar stools. 6. We feature SUMMARIES of postings by our customers. They are provided to help with catching up on periods of absence. They also contain relevant information at the beginning for all customers. 7. The bar is CLOSED on Sunday and Christmas Day. However, submissions may be dropped off in the mail slots on either set of front doors. 8. The Proprietor of “Our” Place only asks that you enjoy yourself while here, but requests that before posting information, take the time to catch up with what you may have missed. To do otherwise turns this thread into what we’ve been trying to avoid. Thanx! Tom (Siberianmo) Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!
QUOTE: Trainnut484 Posted: 29 July 2005, 16:57:47 Good afternoon Tom and all . I'll have a Miller Lite. Kevin, I will admit I'm a little jealous of your new "girlfriend". She's a great catch . If this leads to marriage, then the saying is true; [you are married to your work.] . Ohhh I kill myself sometimes . Ted, let me buy you another bouble durbon . I never brought my conscience when drinking out, because the second opinion didn't matter. Of course, that was when I was single and had disposable income. Tom, don't get onto Boris if he wants to dab into the cake icing tomorrow night. Might I suggest a moosehead with a toilet seat around its neck as the official art piece for the "Rat Patoot" room? I'll have another Miller Lite. Russell
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 29 July 2005, 17:09:42 G'day Trainnut484 Russell We're looking forward to your Birthday Ba***omorrow at 7:30 PM CDST (Central Time)! Boris is not of this world and one should be verrrrrrry carfeful when he's permitted to be around women! He's a strange farkle to say the least. The only guy who could control him was Nick and it appears we've lost contact there ......... By all means, go ahead and use that Moose Head in the basement store room. I'm sure we've got a broken toilet seat somewhere down there. Boris saves everything! Nice touch for the Rat's Patoot Room! Ready for 'nother one Tom
QUOTE: passengerfan Posted: 29 July 2005, 17:49:36 Good evening all How about a double Crown Royal hold the water Tom may have been right about it giving me CRS. When Pullman Standard and Budd began putting a separate small bathroom attached to each Bedroom and Compartment following WW II they began referring to these bathrooms as the annex. Actually Budd was the first to refer to the separate facilities as the annex. Budd was also the first company to separate Bedrooms and Compartments from bathrooms or toilets whatever one prefers. All prewar Compartments and Bedrooms had the toilet right in the room. Pullman Standard did not get the message until Budd began separating them following WW II. The first postwar sleeping cars turned out by Pullman still had the toilets in the Bedrooms such as those in the EMPIRE BUILDER and the SUPER CHIEF Blue Series early Regal series cars. From what I have been able to learn it was probably late 1948 before P/S began using separate annexes for the toilets in all bedrooms and Compartments once again following Budds lead.
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 29 July 2005, 19:46:50 Evening passengerfan Al Hold the water, now you've got it! An interesting twist, but for the life of me, I'm still not with it .... In the present day Park Car drawing room (triple bedroom, as it sometimes is referred to now), the toilet facilities are located within a compartment in the room. However, there is no shower in it. So, that's called an annex [?] Oh well, so much for definitions ...... In fact, the Park Cars do not have a shower room (that would be an annex to me) you have to go the adjacent car to find one. On the Ocean it would have been a Chateau series whereas on the Canadian it more than likely would be a Manor series. Okay, enough of that! Hope you have a relaxing weekend, maybe even take some time to do something other than work on your book! Tom
QUOTE: passengerfan Posted: 29 Jul 2005, 21:43:10 Time for one more Crown Royal and a round for the gang. Dont mean to butt in on someone else's question or answer but was just writing about the Pullman Bradkley cars in another book I am working on. Theodorebear the Pullman/ Bradley car are those Pullman cars built in the old Osgood Bradley plant in Massachusetts. The cars most associated with this plant are the so called American Flyer cars both prewar and postwar. Not all of the so called American Flyer cars were built in the Pullman/Bradley plant but all of the prewar were and except for the New Haven Observations and some of the diners all postwar American Flyer design cars were constructed in Worcester. Besides the American Flyer design cars they also constructed many of the C&NW Bi-levels as well. This plant also constructed some other cars that I am tracing down now.
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