QUOTE: nickinwestwales Posted: 28 Apr 2005, 04:44:25 Posts: 147 Joined: 16 Apr 2005 Hey,Tom-another of those cold Molsons please and as it`s payday a round for the house,as and when they straggle in!! Well it`s a day off for me(the best sort-everyone else is working) and blowing a gale out there so time to sit a while. So,Ontario Northland,classic or not?...discuss....[takes me back to schooldays] Well ,first a disclaimer,I`ve never travelled on any of these lines,so all this is "received wisdom" picked up from the (un)official O.N. railfan site,but they caught my imagination. In part because of the manageable size of the outfit (in modelling terms) and partly the off the beaten track,frontier feel of the place. So,the trains, The Northlander runs daily from Toronto up to Cochrane via North Bay ( C.N. trackage to N.Bay ) Normal formation seems to be G.P.38-2,A.P.U (converted "B" unit for car heating ) 2 coaches and a food service car ( coverted G.O.cars ) until fairly recently,power was any one of the last 3 F.P.7a`s dating back to `51 or 2 but retro-fitted with 2000 hp Caterpiller prime movers. Also seen on this service although not sucessful and long withdrawn ,were a number of Dutch built Werkspoor T.E.E units. This service meets bus connections along the route serving the various `branches ` although It`s predecessor the Northland sleeper carried connecting portions and could include virtually anything. Heading north from Cochrane we have the Polar Bear Express,a summer-only tourist run up to Moosonee up in the arctic circle--this is usually a twin G.P38 lashup although Cochrane shed will happily use whats available,usually a dozen plus cars including domes,food service etc ( think these came from B.C.Rail and C.P.R . The Little Bear is the 3-times-weekly mixed to Moosonee--Beyond Cochrane you are in the tree line and the track is the only land route in or out so this is a community lifeline, The little bear runs about a dozen freight cars(lots of flats with big plant,containers etc,fuel tanks,general stores. According to season,a "canoe car" ( bulkhead flat with special racks fitted) and a "moose car" (50` box for dressed carcases) are available. so a thumbnail essay. Thats left me thirsty so same again and i`ll just perch over here at the end of the counter,take care now, nick
QUOTE: Gunns Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 09:55:25 Hi Tom, If I am just getting of work does it make it dinner for me?? Anyway I have time for a Beer, before bed. And sandwiches are Great! BTW I dropped off 5 gals Ea. of red and green Chili in the kitchen. Now we need to come up with a name for our train to Socorro, maby the "Helper Train" with a Beatles Riff for a theme song... <ducks for cover> Of to bed, Gunns
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 11:32:44 G'day Gunns Kevin That question is kinda like if one lives at the bottom of the world, do they stand on their heads [?] Nope - dinner is dinner and breakfast goes along with sun up. Now, that chili of yours just may present somewhat of a problem. You see, Boris just loves hot food - and I don't mean temperatures. However, since he's not of the same world as the rest of us, no tellin' what may happen if he gets into it. Anyway, whenever you come by, just check out the large containers in the store room off the kitchen - that's where it'll be. Help yourself - it's YOURS! Have to give some thought to a name for your train - theme song shouldn't be a problem if you go with the Beatles ...... depends on what you're trying to get across. For some, music from WWII era might be appropriate, given the equipment you are using. See ya later! Tom
QUOTE: earlydiesels Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 13:56:49 Hello everyone. I'll take the usual tall, cold, bottomless draught, please. Tom, If you have ever seen Amish people and the way they dress, and Union infantry uniforms, you will see the resemblance. Theodorebear, the Leaky Roof line was the Kansas City, Clinton, and Springfield. It was called that because of the decrepit old boxcars sent to the clay pipe works that was located along the line. It became part of the Frisco. At one time, Frisco had 3 lines to Kansas City. During the Depression, the Leaky Roof and another rr were combined using the best of both. Parts were abandoned and the best were upgraded and continued into service until the 70s. Some even lasted until about 5 years ago. Driving along Mo13 one can see remnants if you know where to look. The line BNSF uses now is basically the old Kansas City, Fort Scott and Memphis. Gunns, if you can't find a Bunit, you can always do like the Stone Mountain Scenic in Georgia did. They took an EMD SW1 and built a box around it so it would look like a boxcar. I wouldn’t worry so much about that as I would trying to find affordable passenger equipment in decent shape. What is out in the market now is usually overpriced junk. Another cold one, please. Its still hot outside but there is a chance of rain later in the week. The other museum we belong to has been working on acquiring an 1880s depot from a farm family. It has been sitting on the farm for at least 15 years that I know of but supposed to be in good shape. It has never been wired for electricity or had plumbing. It is from the Missouri Pacific. The museum will get it for 400 steel fence posts and then have to pay the mover. It will be moved in late Sep
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 15:06:14 G'day earlydiesels Dan Hot, hoter, 'n more hot - that's the way it is 'round here today. Supposed to be close to the century mark. I picked a great day to work outside! Think I'll have one of those bottomless draughts with you - try this one from Creston, British Columbia, called Kokanee. I think you'll like it. You know, we've never found out if you ever got that job you interviewed for [?] Stay cool as in comfortable! Tom
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 15:20:09 Almost forgot this ...... meant to post it yesterday! A friend of mine gives me a railroad calendar every year. While he's not into the hobby, nor does he really care about trains at all, he knows I do. Each year he comes up with some pretty interesting stuff .... The one I'm using now is called Those Magnificent Trains, by Charles Ditlefsen. Thought of a couple of you guys when I turned to August .... Featured is a Santa Fe Baldwin loco #3751 (built in 1927) - looks like a 4-8-6 with a great looking tender. Photo was taken in 2002 when the National Historical Society held its annual convention at the Grand Canyon. This loco ran from Los Angeles on the old Santa Fe main line, then headed into the Canyon Depot pulling six heavyweight coaches. Photo is of the loco and tender only. In 1953 I visited the Grand Canyon by train and we pulled right into that Depot. In 1988, on my long and meandering trip back home from retirement in southern California, we stopped off at the Grand Canyon and was I ever surprised to see the Depot still standing - even had the Santa Fe herald, weathered, but plainly visible. I now have photo's of me from 1953 and 1988 standing beneath that wonderful bit of history. Thought you'd be interested - Santa Fe fans. Tom
QUOTE: barndad Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 17:16:28 Afternoon all ... afternoon Siberianmo, skip the tea, I'll have a bottomless draught please, and a round for the house. How's that? You were right about removing the "thumbnail" from the locomotive walker pic. It's much better now. Gunns, just got my Railway and Historical Society newsletter, and they have big plans out your way for the 2006 convention (June 8-11). June 8 they leave from Albuquerque New Mexico to Pagosa Springs Colorado. On Friday they're taking a trip on the Durango & Silverton line. Saturday they have a trip on the Cumbres and Toltec line. Registration fee for all events is $275. Hotel costs in Pagosa Springs is $95 a night. I think we should ALL attend!! Siberianmo, what do you think?
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 17:54:59 G'day barndad Doug So, where's the new URL for your pix [?] If wishes were horses ........ I agree, it would be great for ALL of us to attend, but something far different for it to happen that way. Check out all of the info on previous pages concerning the First Annual Rendezvous for "Our" Place. Some of our regulars totally ignored even responding to this .... Nonetheless, we are going forward with it - scheduled for May 2006. Details, as I said, in previous pages. Enjoy the draught! Try one of those Kokanee beers - great brew from Canada's Pacific Province ....... See ya! Tom
QUOTE: Theodorebear Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 18:36:22 Rob, thanks God no one was killed at Onrario Intn'l Airport! barndad YESss, only a few questions: Will there be confirmation on both the D.R.G & W. Line runs (round trip, no bus returns) and lodging in Durango over-night as well as Pagosa Springs (if so- -$?). Will they be "open or closed" coaches and what does the "registration fee" cover? Could you send more precise, day-by-day, info for June 8-11- -for airlines, etc. reservations should be made NOW? Ain't nothin' I'd rather do next year but need more passenger data for now. Gunns if you guys name an incredible work of Victorian-to-the-present piece of Art after a vocal group that "killed" live music, shame on you! So far, everything okay with the health thing here. Doctor said: "Stay away from too much of the Boris syndrome." Happy rails and no derails, Ted
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 19:07:46 Hi Ted, I think. Most unusual post - no greeting for Moi - no order from the bar [?]Hmmmmmmm.. My concern of the day is for those seven U.S. Marines lost in Iraq ....... [:(] Well, good to see ya today! Tom
QUOTE: earlydiesels Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 19:21:14 Hello everyone. I'll have one of those like before, Tom. You are good at weaning me away from Mr. Busch's products. About the railroad job. I had it but then the company started breaking promises and going back on their word and changing things so I am still here. I am very p.o. ed about it and even thinking about it gets my blood boiling. I had my dream in my hand but one so and so screwed it up. Maybe I'm old fashioned but a man's word should be worth something. Two shots of the best Tequila, please. A round for the house, also. I do not want to be accused of drowning my sorrows without thinking of my friends. Drink up!!!
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 20:08:47 Evenin' earlydiesels Dan Round for the house, ring the bell Boris! Thanx, Dan! I agree with you 100% regarding a man's word - should always be his bond., for sure., Call it old fashioned, but it still means something to me. Good things will come your way, my friend, just stick to your convictions ....... Didn't know there was a GOOD Tequila! Try some Jose Cuervo .... you be the judge! Tom
QUOTE: Trainnut484 Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 20:47:49 Evening Tom and et all I'll try one of those Canadian draughts please. Tom, I think you mean that 3751 is a 4-8-4, not a 4-8-6. That's okay. It is a great engine. Maybe it can someday team up with 2926 and 2903 Dan, sorry to hear about the railroad job. Don't let it get you down. You can always try again, even for a different road. Doug, that's a funny pic. Kinda looks like someone stole the wheels under it and left it on blocks. Rough neighborhood Round for the house on me. (Just because) Take care, Russell
QUOTE: Gunns Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 21:22:27 LoL, Tom, Socorro means help!! in Spanish......... <G> More coffee, work again tonight. Maby we could call it the "Warrior" or the "Brave", In the same vein as the Chief or the Scout..... More after first rounds, Gunns
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 21:56:56 Evenin' Guys ..... One Kokanee for Russell a cuppa Joe for Kevin ..... It's a 4-8-4; just difficult to determine from the angle that the photo was taken at. A great looking piece of machinery for sure! Thanx for the round ... ring the bell Boris Hey - I like Warrior - that's a great handle for a train like you are putting together. Perhaps you'll rethink that music though .. think WWII. Okay guys, time for me to check out as Leon the Night Man has ambled in - wearing his new Jump Boots of course! See ya in the 'morrow! Tom
QUOTE: passengerfan Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 22:40:06 Good evening all guess I'll have a Crown royal and how about a round for the house. Thinking about naming that train and came up with the name WAMPUM because that is just what it's going to take lots of to get it running. Passenger cars are getting more and more difficult to find especially those in any kind of decent shape at all. And the prices just keep climbing as well. Insurance is another matter entirely, I'm not trying to be the bearer of bad news but getting any kind of operation going today on even a limited basis is extremely expensive and I wish you all the luck in the world. Only wish I was closer so I could watch the progress. Or maybe even get my hands dirty that would be a thrill in itself being part of the restoration of one of these man's finest pieces of machinery.
QUOTE: Gunns Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 23:37:25 Evening, Leon Beatles riff was a joke referencing the song Help... <G> Actually if we do music, I like Jimmy Dorsey. I like Warrior too. Later Gunns
QUOTE: trolleyboy Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 23:49:57 Hello again everyone. tom a kokanee would be wonderfull haven't had one in years. Ted Yes that was a near miss to be sure.from the looks of the plane I'm suprised anyone survied let alone just the 24 minor injuries. some divine intervention i think. sorry [#offtopic] Loen a round to the house on me. Tom Quite a party indeed and thanks for the summeries caught me up in no time.Nice picture link BTW. Update on the first annual rendezvous. so far I'm looking at a possible TTC charter part of the day. With luck it will be affordable and what better way to enjoy the city than by streetcar? I'm hoping for a side trip to our museum and the Canadian warplane Herritage as well. Feed back please from those coming but we will keep it off forum. Tom or Ted can supply my email addy if you don't have it. I was doing some cleaning out of old photo's and came across a couple interesting shots.First is a Brantford street railway DT car built by preston car and coach, Picture is from 1939 a year before my hometown removed the street railway. It's at the car barns which were about ten blocks from my house. They were torn down finally about 10 years ago for an appartment building. Some of the Line is still switched by CN which is something in itself. These shots are truley classic in keeping with our theme. All BSR cars were wood and of Preston car and coach manufacture. Though none still remain similar preston products still exist at our museum and at the Ft Edmonton facility and in Calgary's heritage Park.The second shot is one of the ubiquitous BSR single truckers on St OPaul Ave again blocks from my house . The third is the Terrace Hill line which ran to Paris Ontario and the last is the old BSR Barns themselves Enjoy. Talk to you all Tomorrow. Good nite all Rob
QUOTE: wrwatkins Posted: 03 Aug 2005, 06:31:32 Good morning Tom et al. They have a computer in the lounge so I can get a short message off. I might have a few typos as the lighting at the computer is poor and the letters on the keys are almost rubbed off. So here goes. I will give a brief travelogue of our trip so far. We arrived in Central Station in Montrael after a short detour to Central BUS Station, which is about 5 miles from the rail station. This was clearly a mistake of the driver as he was definitely told RAIL. We were not the only people with the same problem. Really not a problem as we arrived at the central station with two hours before departure. Went to the kiosk machines to scan the bar code on my reservation to get the tickets. Could only get the ticket for my wife and not for me. Even tried two other machines and no success. Had to stand in line to see an agent who managed to get the ticket. The next problem was standing in the line to get signed in as a first class passenger. There was quite a line (a tleast 50 people in front of me). My wife waited in the Panorama lounge. The problem was that the agent did not show up until 6:00 when they were to start the boarding. Bad scene! Finally got to go down the first class escalator to the train. The compartment in the Park car was small but excellent. You really do not expect a compartment the size of a hotel room when the train is only 10 feet wide. The xonxierge in the Park car, Gary, was TERRIFIC!! He did a super job of caring for all of our needs. Considering the check in fiasco and the bus station we requested a drink from the bar. He said the bar would open after the train departed which was to be in 15 minutes. This was not to be. VIA had engine problems and we left 3 hours 15 minutes late. I am glad we signed up for the second seating for dinner. Those who had the first seating ate in the dark confines of the station. We at least were seated while the train crossed the St Laurence river. We planned to take some pictures of the scenery and sunset but this was not to be. Sitting in the dome car we could see daylight at the end of the tunnel (no pun intended) and slowly watch it fade. When we pulled out it was black outside. No photos on the outbound trip. It started to rain soon after leaving Montrael and continued to Treau (SP??). The view from the dome car was not that good due to the rain. they need windshield wipers. Sleeping was great. The train movement rocked us to sleep. My wife wanted the upper berth as she had never slept in one before. I slept in one during the winter of 1944-45. A lot was still the same after 60 years. It was over 60 years ago when I accompanied the porter on the Pennsylvania Railroad as he made the berths up. Not much has changed in the intervening years. We did manage to pick up 2 1/4 hours on the trip. The track between Campbelltown and Moncton, which is owned by New Brunswick RR needs a little TLC. The ride was a little rocky. Gary said that they have to slow down due to the track condition and usually arrive a little late due to this. This is the problem with the short lines and their deferred maintenance programs. As to the train trip. WE LOVED IT. We would do it again even with the warts we experienced. The scenery was great. Getting near Halifax along the river was very similar to along the Skeena River on the Skeena in British Columbia, although the scenery along the Skeena was more mountanous. I highly recommend travel on VIA and will do it again! More later. Now it is time for breakfast and other want the terminal. Did not have time to read the posts since last Thursday. Will try to do it when people are not hovering over me. Cheers, ***
QUOTE: Theodorebear Posted: 03 Aug 2005, 06:49:38 Mornin' Tom yes that last Post of mine was done impromptu and hurridly.[oops] So, let me grab a "super sized" Java and a croissant to "put out the fire" from yesterday's "Happy Hour." Rob really neat pix of the BSR. I can't get used to Trolleys without poster boards festooned on front and sides. Gunns only kidding about the Beatles but Tom is probably right about "W.W.II;" maybe "Sentimental Journey, Chatanooga Choo Choo, Rock Island Line, Wabash Cannon Ball..." I know for sure passengerfan Al is "right" about the Wampum. Yes "Warrior" gets my vote also. I thought Socorro was a species of Cactus much like the plant earlydiesels Dan Teqiula is derived. BTW Dan, if that job came with deceit and untruths; you don't want any part of it noway. Better to find out 'before' than 'after', right? I can only think the color of the A.T.S.F. (brown) that I recall must have been some faded form of the green or some other anomoly still to be dicussed. Pullman Green is darned near black, so I don't believe it could be any variation on that color. "Ah Sweet Mystery of Life..." (Nelson Eddy/Janet McDonald circa 1930's). I say Boris, what happened to my umbrella this time? Oh, you put it in the oven to dry-out!! Okay folks, good to see ya's and don't forget tomorrow is Fish Fry Night. Lots of Mackeral, Great Northern Pike and Bay of Fundy Flounder for your pleasure. Happy rails, Ted
QUOTE: Gunns Posted: 01 August 2005, 08:53:54 Morning all, Tom, Wow, Eggs Bacon Hash browns, and Red Chilli. Finishing up work here, I "get" to help do the annuals on the last UPS. Well last one for a year. Back to the 2926 consist, Given that they used the "Santa Fe Green" smoothsides, what types of cars did they use? Sleepers, Diners, Coaches, and Baggage combos would be my guess, but I don’t know. Our plans are to obtain a pair of Coaches with the 44 or 56 seat capacity <leg rest adjustable seats>, a Dining car, and run from Albuquerque to Socorro and back < aprox 150 miles round trip>, probably quarterly maby moving upto monthly if ridership warrants it. The 150 mile length is the max run we can make on a tender full of water, <although we would refill at Socorro> the trip time would probably be about 1.5 to 2 hours one way, with a lunch stop in Socorro. Ticket price we want to keep below $20.00 but Insurance and maintenance could push it up <remember we just want to run, and cover the costs>. So our consist would look like this, the 2926, tool car <ex troop sleeper, carries the HEP for the train>, tool car <ex ambulance kitchen>, coach, coach, and diner. Cars would be painted in the Santa Fe, Green with the troop sleeper painted like an express boxcar. Maby even adding an observation platform end on the diner... Ahhh foods here, Gunns
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 01 August 2005, 09:08:10 Mornin' Gunns Kevin I don't know what menu you are readin' from, but we feature light breakfasts 'round here and since I'm the morning Chef - try again! [swg] In 1986, I was driving from St. Louis to Long Beach, CA to my new job, and passed through New Mexico. I recall seeing many long freights off in the distance - then suddenly right alongside, then off again ........I still have those pictures in my mind. The topography is something else indeed. My travels also took me to Albuquerque maybe once a year over a 5-year span. Unfortunately, my interests weren't with railroading at the time - business and other kinds of pleasure. Anyway, I've wondered about the grades out thataway - with all of those mesa's and seemingly deep drop offs, finding places for those rights of way must have been quite the effort. Any info on this [?] Tom
QUOTE: Theodorebear Posted: 01 August 2005, 13:20:45 Gunns hold a round trip ticket for me please and let me know when. Tom, I know what you mean about N. Mexico's topography. I would see 1/2 mile long freight consists from afar. Then, in no time, I would be driving over the train at the next over-pass, weird! "The Land of Enchantment," indeed. As you know Albuquerque sits in a basin with mountains ringing the parameters all around. I guess that explains the mild winters? It looks like the Socorro run will parallel the "Rio Grande." That should be impressive rugged scenery. I still think N. M. has the greatest scenery in the U.S. Rockies. Yes Tom the older hotels had that "touch of class," (i.e. natural wood paneling, plush carpets, brass rail bars, marble statuary, rich fabrics, et al.) that glass, vinyl and steel just can't "cut." The public telephone booth in the Drum Room (?) of the Muehlbach still has a bullet hole from the "roaring" twenties." You know, I really don't consider a discussion of that "era's" infrastructure far "off topic." You could hardly travel far by rail without hotel m somewhere en route and St. Louis, Chicago and K.C. being the most likely. Perhaps the scope of "Classic Trains" Topics should be expanded to include the aura of that whole "Classic Period?" It is too interesting an era for stringent limitations to trains alone. Naturally, the "focus" and stress should pivot on rail travel, of course. Just my [2c] for the day. Happy rails everybody, Ted
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 01 August 2005, 13:34:17 G'day Ted M'boy! Get in from the heat of the day and take advantage of the coolness of "Our" Place. A nice Beefeaters, perhaps in a tall glass [?]- frosty of course! Used to have a special friend out Albuquerque way who always wanted me to spend the weekend during the hot air balooning races. Never did - wish I had. Also wanted me to ski - and I'm a great bottom skier if you catch my drift! Never did, wish I had. The one thing I'll always remember about that area is the intriquing topography - I've been in all 50 states and several continents, never saw anything quite like that. I'm more of a mountain and lakes kinda guy than anything else, although, the smell of the salt air really needs to be wtihin a day's drive. [yeah]Listen to me, landlocked in mid-continent with the Mississippi and Missouri oceans rivers nearby. The Muehlbach has quite a history and Harry S. Truman surely thought a lot of it, so I've been told. When I first stayed there somewhere back around 1977, I heard that reference so much that I think if a tune could have been put to it, we'd all have danced to it! The hotels of yesteryear were definitely made for comfort and doting. Yes, I believe you are correct about the railroads and hotel connection. We know all about how Canadian Pacific built those extravaganzas along the mainline up in Canada - many still functioning. Palaces more than anything else. But, I digress, that was then and here we are today. Plasticville, USA has taken over the hotel business. So, you don't think I was [#offtopic][?] Okay - I concur - YOU buy the 'round! Glad you stopped by, Ted, was wondering if we'd have anyone at all this fine day. My S-gauge structures are supposed to arrive this PM, so I'm sticking close to home. Wanna get going on my project ......... Oh yes - about those boondockers for Boris - we have a bin full - all left foot. He prefers them that way![?] Now, Leon the Night Man likes boondockers also, that is until he saw some jump boots on an Airborne guy the other day. So, I've had to outfit him in those. He likes to blouse his bib overalls ........ See ya! Tom
QUOTE: barndad Posted: 01 August 2005, 17:28:57 Good evening all! Good evening Tom! It's hotter than ... than ... I like it. Kindly pass me a pitcher of ice tea. I saw this in Rail Images, and just had to share: //NOTE: Scroll up for pix// Now this is interesting. Look Ma ... no rails! Too funny for me
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 01 August 2005, 18:52:38 Evenin' barndad Doug That's an odd pix for sure - perhaps it needs reposting without the "thumb" in the URL - then I believe it could be enlarged by clicking on it. Check the kitchen for your iced tea - we don't have it behind the bar! Now, we've got all kinds of adult beverages, and of course the mixers (soft drinks for the novice!). See ya! Tom
QUOTE: Gunns Posted: 01 August 2005, 19:23:46 Evening Tom, Coffee, please Tom, Ted, the rails here mostly follow the river bottoms, when they were built there was even more unclaimed/Gvt land than now, so they mostly had there choice as to routes. The steep grades are Abo Canyon <where the BNSF is double tracking>, and Raton Pass. Raton has mostly 3.5% grades and was one of the most challenging on the AT&SF main. It runs up the East side of the largest Volcano in N.A. BTW tickets are reserved and locked. <G> One thing I forgot, we will need a "Safety diesel" in the consist, we are hoping to find an old "B" unit to paint green and MU to the cab. more later after first rounds at work, Gunns
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 01 August 2005, 19:56:01 Evenin' Gunns Kevin What's going on 'round here tonight [?] Iced tea - coffee [?] I'm operating a bar 'n grill and we're acting like a coffee shop! Arggggggggh. 3.5 percent grades - now that's something else indeed. New Mexico certainly has some interesting railroading ....... By the by, your coffee is always ready 'n fresh, right over there in the urns! Tom
QUOTE: Gunns Posted: 01 August 2005, 20:57:16 Sorry Tom, But I am on watch tonight and we have our version of the 8 hr bottle to throttle rule <sigh> But for Fri morning you can set me and any one else that wants with "ABCs" <Ausbach n Coke> that was the favorite when I was stationed in Germany.... Ausbach is a brandy of good quality made there. Later Gunns
QUOTE: Trainnut484 Posted: 01 August 2005, 21:19:26 Evening Tom and everyone . Leon, I'll have my usual. Kevin, I'm more than ready for the trip. If I may, I'd like to blow the whistle Take care, Russell
QUOTE: passengerfan Posted: 01 August 2005, 21:25:02 Good evening all time for a double crown royal and a round for the house. As usual I am late weighing in about the Santa Fe green, but someone said it was very difficult to tell from Pullman Green after it had been in service for any length of time. Remember seeing several of the Santa Fe heavyweight Pullmans when they were assigned to the Grand Canyons during that trains transition and they looked right at home mixed with the lightweights. I don't remember any of the heavyweight coaches on the Santa Fe as they turned to lightweights pretty early. Maybe it was because my interest was always in the lightweight cars or the heavyweight Pullmans that were named. I do recall seeing some Santa Fe heavyweights painted silver with what looked to be paint to resemble fluting. But I don't remember the types of cars they were. I also remember some streamlined smooth side Valley series sleeping cars painted the same. A single B unit painted to match the passenger cars would be interesting something like the Clinchfield operated behind an old steam locomotive they owned. Don't know where you might find one short of Canada as they are becoming very rare. I will look and see if their are any available from Crown assets. Local News posted an item about old SP station that will be going on Ebay Wednesday starting at $100.00. It just has to be moved. It is already up on blocks in preparation for moving. It is a small passenger facility with large freight express building over 100 years old. Needs work and lots of TLC and deep pockets.
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 01 August 2005, 21:44:47 Gunns Kevin We've got a tanker car full of Ausbach sittin' over on the CP siding! When you're ready, let me know ......... [swg] Trainnut484 Russell One Miller Lite comin' right up [tup] Thanx for stopping by! passengerfan Al So, you've come up for air!![?] Ring the bell Boris, drinks all around on Al[yeah] I always get a kick out of the items that wind up on eBay ... a train station, no less! [wow] I'm not a fan of eBay, got turned off long time ago and really don't spend my cyber time on it. But, to each his own ....... just not my thing. Oh, I see Leon the Night Man has arrived, all resplendid in his new Jump Boots[yeah] See ya! Tom
QUOTE: Gunns Posted: 01 Aug 2005, 21:45:21 Tom? If I may chefs choice from the Menu..... Russell Ya can blow the whistle now<G> we have it set up on a 15 foot high pipe attached to our air compressor.... only 150psi but you get the effect. passengerfan we might find a smaller unit and "square" it out to look like a car... with the goal of diminishing the Diesel look... Gunns
QUOTE: Gunns Posted: 01 Aug 2005, 21:47:26 Well Darn Tom, Gotta run off to work... may drop by after first break, Gunns
QUOTE: trolleyboy Posted: 01 Aug 2005, 23:31:49 Good evening everyone. I've returned back safe and sound ( and yes Ted moosless ) from our camping trip. Aug long weekend and all So Leon a bedtime peppermint Schnapps please.Tom &Dan You know it once I get down to you folks I'll definitely let you know. I'd love to have some extra company when we hit the Midland. BTW just like Dan mentioned anyone wanting to come up to my museum let me know in advance. Special events at our's can be quite busy and hectic, and i won't be able to give as good a tour on the super busy days. Gunns I haven't hit the museum site yet, just a brief glimpse but hey amazing work so far .I see you have the need for a diesel helper with the steam as well. State or federal legislation. Up hear it's a transport Canada (federal) that requires diesel helper power on mainline steam moves (private museums can run dieselless on their own property) This is the main reason CP refurbished the F7 and F9B and repainted a GP38-2 into the old beavercrest scheme to help spell off the empress(not that she needs help).You may be able to snare a working F unit from CN. Unless they scrapped them they had 9 or 10 F units A's and B's which they acquired from the WC merger. ( these powered the Algoma Central passenger trains) so heat and hep equipment was presant as well. A long shot for you but who Knows. And a belated [bday] greeting for Russell sorry I missed the shindig but I brought back some microbrewed maple beer for your drinking pleasure. Have a good nite everyone. Rob
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