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[siberianmo]

G’day coalminer3

More quarters [?] That’ll keep us in tunes for the long weekend! [tup] Boris Ring the bell, our West Virginia connection is buying …. [yeah]

I haven’t been out since yesterday afternoon – and gas prices then were still at $2.79 for regular – today they’ve topped $3.00 according to the local news. Lots of unhappy people and who knows where or when this ends [?]

RDC’s are classics and occupy a significant place in U.S. passenger railroading. Don’t recall if you mentioned those RDC’s operating down in Dallas by Trinity Rail Express, but there are some photo’s to check out of my trip back to pages 79 & 80. Riding in the cab of one for about 40 miles was the highlight, no doubt! [tup]
Thanx for clarifying what I had recalled you telling us – two Beeliners – B&A and NYC.

I have some great photo’s of those experimentals you mentioned – especially the famed Roger Willaims. Didn’t know it was being restored. By the by, for anyone interested in a great site – check out:
http://www.bedforddepot.org/Gallery.html - Friends of Bedford Depot.

Being a dyed in the wool PRR fan with some fantastic memories beginning in the 1940’s – it’s very difficult to accept the mere existence of something called Penn Central. The NYC was chief rival of the Pennsy and to somehow fold in those two names – ugh. [yeah] I know how it all came about and the ill fated business venture didn’t last all that long. That funky green color didn’t do much for me either! [tdn] How do I really feel, you ask [?] [swg]

Funny thing about that shotgun, Boris took it away from an irate customer one night and it’s been back behind the bar ever since. We get some strange ones in here from time to time …… Mason jar [?] Oh [yeah] THAT jar – well, it’s a concoction used to wipe down the brass rails. Only thing is, Boris thinks it’s his tonic.

Can’t comment on Railroad History or the fish cars – perhaps others will.

Special for the Labor Day weekend [?] Just the family picnic on Monday, which will be announced tomorrow.

Appreciate your Post and hope to see ya back soon.

Trainnut484 Russell

Almost missed your Post – good to see you this AM. [yeah] Time flies ‘round here when you’re having fun! [swg] August seemed to be the longest month – ever. Just didn’t want to end. Twenty one days until the Fall! Now that’s worth looking forward to ……. [tup]

Glad you enjoyed the pix from Delson via Chris. I felt pretty much the same as you when I looked at those RDC’s … especially in light of my recent experience with the refurbished ones down in Dallas. Mixed emotions – glad they are still around, sad to see ‘em in that condition.

You’re in for September 9th.

When will we reach 100 Pages [?]

Russell says September 9th
Nick says September 11th
Al says September 5th (by Noon!)
Doug says September 5th (by 6 PM!)
Rob says September 8th
Dave says September 5th
Pete says Sepember 12th
Dan says September 1st, 2nd or 3rd***
Ted says September 15th, 16th or 17th***

***Sorry, but to be eligible for the PRIZE, only one date may be selected!

What do YOU say [?] CONTEST CLOSES TODAY!

Catch y’all later!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[Trainnut484]

Good morning Tom and all [:)]. I'll have a cup of hot java and a big danish from the Mentor Bakery please. Can't believe it's already September.

I'm tossing in my vote for Sept 9th as when we'll reach 100 pages. Great pics from Chris. Sad to see the boarded up windows on the F unit [V]. The CP's early paint scheme on the ALCO switcher looks great [tup].

Gotta go for now.

Russell

[coalminer3]

Good Morning All: Quarters for the jukebox and a round of whatever eye-openers folks want. Foggy here this a.m., but weather is supposed to improve. Gas (regular) is at $3.09 - glad I have a small vehicle.

Interesting how the RDC thread pops up now and again. Shoreliner was the name used by the New Haven. Beeliner was used by the NYC, but as I mentioned before, that name was first used on the Boston and Albany.

The Roger Willimas was one of three lightweight "experimental" trains purchased by the New Haven. The other two, the John Quincy Adams and the Dan'l Webster had less than stellar careers. The Roger, however, survived into Amtrak. I think I told the story abt. a cab ride on it way back in these pages. Anyway, the Roger is still around and iirc, being restored. Again, I am relying on memory here, but I think part of it is already completed. If you have not checked out the Friends of Bedford Depot website you should as there is all sorts of B&M RDC stuff on their site. They are in the midst of cosmetically restoring a B&M RDC.

Re the Penn Central: I have no case for or against them, but it sure made for some interesting power visits into New England including big PRR Alcos along with a lot of other exotic stuff which sometimes drifted over onto Consol unit trains which operated between WV and Bow, NH. I recall seeing a B&M GP7/GP9/PC F7B/ and PC RS32 on one of these trains. Talk abt a rolling museum. Yes, I did get pictures so I haven't been into Boris's "private stock," you know, the Mason jar that's on the floor beside the shotgun under the bar (I do apprecaite your efforts to make us feel like we're at home).

B4 I forget, the new issue of Railroad History (BTW I appreciate their new format) has some excellent color pictures of lithographs of British RRs back in the 19th century.

They also have a story of B&O electrification in Baltimore and a story about the Shedd Aquarium's fish cars. The fish car I remember used to appear every so often on L&N passenger trains. It was a lw car fitted up with tanks for the beasties, crew accommodations, etc. I recall seeing it mostly on days when the "South Wind" operated with the Pan as the car seemed to be on a pretty regular circuit between Chicago and Florida.

One last fish operation I remember hearing about was the fi***rains that ran on the Boston and Albany from Boston west. According to the old timers I knew, these were a little slice of heaven when they rolled by, especially in the summer. Just abt. as much fun as the pig trains that ran east to the Squires packing plant in Boston.

Well, fill up the thermos and on my way...is there a special on the menu for Labor Day weekend?

work safe

[siberianmo]

Well, I'll be, a daytime Post from Nick! [Awwwwwwright ... [tup][tup]

Nice to see ya 'round here this early (or mid-day for you!).

An interesting thought that you posit regarding space aboard military bases. At first glance, that would seem to be feasible. Then again, perhaps not. The facts these days with what we used to refer to as barracks on many of our bases is that more 'n more members of our Armed Forces live off base - and are paid to do it in the form of an allowance. Mainly, these are the married people and careerists - not all, but the majority. This pattern isn't anything new and goes back to the 70's ........ Then there's a real concern for security aboard the bases with a cross-section of society living among and amidst environments that civilians just aren't cleared to be around. Base security have their hands full these days wtih the "911" belt tightening much less having to provide something additional ....... On to medical care and feeding. Military hospitals and clinics simply aren't geared to handle a sustained demand for their services. I'm retired military and cannot - repeat - cannot be seen at one of the largest USAF Bases in our country. Feeding [?] Ha - as with the notion of barracks - mess halls also aren't what our images conjur up. Pay as you go is the way it's done with the cafeterias staffed by civilians, these days on many bases. Again, an allowance is provided to permit one to eat on base or off. So ...... it ain't quite as easy as one might think to do what really appears to be a quick fix.

I recall being involved with some natural disaster responses wherein many survivors were relocated to FEMA trailers and tents. There's a huge stockpile of trailers pre-positioned all over our country and my thinking is that they will soon be deployed to handle the enormous numbers of people requiring shelter. Folks in Florida are still living in 'em from Hurricanes of past seasons ........

I'll have to check through the indexes of MR to find that article you made mention of regarding the RDC's ........ My library goes back to the mid-60s - AND, don't ask why! [swg] If someday Kalmbach decides to put these issues on disks (the way National Geographic has done), then storage will no longer be an issue.

Curious - tell us more about what is required with that satellite mapping toy of yours. Sounds interesting ...... perhaps even something else to become addicted to! Arggggggggh.

Whoa! Hold it! Juneau and Boris do NOT, repeat NOT, romp the forests together. Ain't no way I want Boris biting my dog! [swg] Given that Siberian Husky's are rather close to the Wolf in appearance, I think those forensic fakers (note, that's fakers. .... ) need to try again. [swg]

Okay you're in for the Contest:

When will we reach 100 Pages [?]

Nick says September 11th
Al says September 5th (by Noon!)
Doug says September 5th (by 6 PM!)
Rob says September 8th
Dave says September 5th
Pete says Sepember 12th
Dan says September 1st, 2nd or 3rd***
Ted says September 15th, 16th or 17th***

***Sorry, but to be eligible for the PRIZE, only one date may be selected!

What do YOU say [?] CONTEST CLOSES TODAY!

See ya tonite! Looking forward to your menu .......[C=:-)]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[nickinwestwales]

[4:-)]TOM- great photo`s that F-unit (F-3 ?) has got me salivating-my G.T.W F-3 may well have a new playmate soon !!! [C=:-)]

[siberianmo]

Mornin' Ted

First and foremost - you cannot withdraw! Sorry ... I set the rules 'round here and there is no mention of any prohibition regarding Staff participation. However, you will remain ineligible for the PRIZE unless you change your mind regarding a single date! [;)]

A factor with regard to the apparent inability of the U.S. to come up with a reliable hi-speed rail network is the number of grade crossings. They've grown quantum-fold over the decades since we had those PFE's and the like criss-crossing the nation. In Missouri for example, we have the 2nd most number of crossings in the country; Illinois is #1. And before anyone jumps my case about the hi-speed right-of-way extending south from Chicago to St. Louis - I'm aware of it. Also how about the extraordinary methods to ensure that stupid and careless motor vehicle operators get the Full Monty regarding protection at those crossings [?] Devices to catch auto's, etc. No way, no how can we afford this on a nationwide basis. I love that phrase, You can't fix stupid! Now back to hi-speed, et al: as the price of fuel zooms off the charts, sit back 'n wait for the hue 'n cry over things like, "How come we don't have passenger trains [?]" Almost makes me want to laugh ..... Grrrrrrrrrr.[banghead][censored]

Hope all goes well for you at the VA. [tup][tup]

Appreciate the Post ........ See ya this evenin' !

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[nickinwestwales]

Well good morning [4:-)]TOM and fellow travellers,just popped in en route to the market for tonights fish menu,thought I`d pick up on a couple of things -Given the vast numbers of displaced persons down in the gulf just now, might not the govt accommodate them in empty military bases-surely with the volume of personnel over in the other gulf there must be considerable vacant bed space available with all ameneties laid on...but what do I know !. O.K, onwards and upwards,R.E. the R.D.C speed tests,I seem to recall an article in M.R in the last couple of years-a number of B/W trackside shots and supporting text-ring any bells BORIS---NOOOO not that one.. WOLFMAN-awright mate! like yourself I am an Englishman abroad-no question of divided loyalties on match days-a `9` of Felinfoel Double Dragon is on the weekly Zeppelin and should be settled and ready for consumption by kick-off time. The tank engine you mentioned sounds like a Stroudley "terrier"-built for the London,Brighton & South Coast railway (later Southern Railway)-should be a yellow-ochre livery ( improved engine green-also used on the Highland Railway during Stroudley`s tenure there) with red side rods. a number are preserved-any of you familiar with Thomas et al will recognise Stepney the Bluebell engine. They were also used on the Hayling Island branch-many photos of them crossing Branksome(?) bridge against the sunset have been published. also a couple on the Weston, Cleveland & Portishead Lt Rly ( a real classic of its kind,and worth a submission in it`s own right [^] ) All named after areas served by the L.B.S.C--Waddon is an area of marshland between Croyden and Mitcham in South London-a stones throw from my own childhood home-who`se only claim to fame is as the route of the Surrey Iron Railway,one of U.K`s earliest passenger carrying routes ( along with the Oystermouth and Mumbles Tramway in Swansea) . Well got me another new toy-GoogleWorld- satellite mapping to a fairly good resolution( I took the basic i.e. free version,others are probably better) used it to Zoom in on Steeles ave/Rutherford area of Toronto,where my maps had suggested a yard might be WOW!!!!!!! it`s there,it`s huge,and you can pick out individual autos,box cars,bald heads reflecting sunlight !!!--any of you planning a layout or ,like me ,Carto-junkies ( map freaks) get it-you wont be disappointed !-ROB,may be out to pick your brains later . O.K. ,best get about it,--P.S-Can-Am County park rangers report finding badly mauled remains of a Balderda***he rare flightless bird found only in this region. Initial post-mortem results suggest 2 distinct dental patterns,one a large dog,possibly a husky,the other `not-quite-human`-whe pressed further,the vetinarian burst into tears and refused further comment-guess I`d better check the shed on my way out. pps-I`ll go for Sept 11th for the centenary page,if only to put something positive on a day with such negative memories( the future starts today and all that) have as good a day as you can,given the circs. regards to all,see you tonight nick[C=:-)]

[Anonymous]

Mornin' all, I can't stay for more than a quick hello and a cuppa Joe, 'cause the V.A. needs my carcass this a.m., probably more testing. Oh well, the price is right. Tom, I really need to withdraw from the contest. Not because of my choice of Sep. 16th (re: my Post 09:02, Aug 31, see p. 91) but rather I'm "Staff" and these contests prohibit "in house" participation. SOOoo, good luck to all who enter. BTW, I'm not sure where "Sep. 15, 16 and 17" came from but its of no importance.[8D]

Really enjoy the Pandits of U.K. steam lore (Pete, Chris and Nick). The speed recordings mentioned has prompted me to delve back a bit to the pre W.W. II era. Somewhere, I seem to recall impressive steam speeds being racked up in Germany during the '30's. The R.D.C's attainable speeds literally "floored" me. I didn't know 36" wheel dia. with the available diesel-traction motors-transmission could achieve such speeds. Of course, this is commonplace on the electrified lines of today, i.e. Japan, Germany, France, et al.

Hope to see ya's for fish and chips this p.m. The "count down" for Rob's B'Day Bash began midnight last night. Please "book mark" the date for Sep. 10th, 10:00 p.m. eastern. Will that be 36 + 2 days Rob? Take care all.

[siberianmo]

Mornin' Al

That Post of yours has to be one of the most brief from you - ever! However, it is early (earlier for YOU), so enjoy the coffee and diet [?] pastries! [swg]

Looks like we're really spliting hairs 'round here with the Contest - right down to the hour - good grief!

When will we reach 100 Pages [?]

Al says September 5th (by Noon!)
Doug says September 5th (by 6 PM!)
Rob says September 8th
Dave says September 5th
Pete says Sepember 12th
Dan says September 1st, 2nd or 3rd***
Ted says September 15th, 16th or 17th***

***Sorry, but to be eligible for the PRIZE, only one date may be selected!

What do YOU say [?] CONTEST CLOSES TODAY!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[passengerfan]

Good Morning Tom Guess I'll have a cuppa coffee and a diet pastry from the Mentor Bakery if you Please.
Might as well get into the date pick I think we will reach 100 pages by Sept 5, by noon.

[siberianmo]

G'Mornin' barndad Doug

Appreciate your stopping by ...... [yeah] Nice shot of that Scotsman and others .... [tup] By by the by - I posted it and it was from Chris .....

Okay - you're in for September 5th ..... , by 6 PM at that!! [swg]

When will we reach 100 Pages [?]

Doug says September 5th (by 6 PM!)
Rob says September 8th
Dave says September 5th
Pete says Sepember 12th
Dan says September 1st, 2nd or 3rd***
Ted says September 15th, 16th or 17th***

***Sorry, but to be eligible for the PRIZE, only one date may be selected!

What do YOU say [?] CONTEST CLOSES TODAY!


Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[Anonymous]

Good morning Tom and the rest of the earlybirds. Happy September! I'll have a coffee and a cinnamon roll from the Mentor Village Bakery please.

I say this thread will reach 100 pages by 6pm on September 5th. I just can't imagine it taking any longer with a 3-day weekend coming up!

Loved the Scotsman pic Gunns.

Have a great day everyone ... time for this old man to get to work!

[siberianmo]

THURSDAY’s NEWS & SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS

G’day All! A new month and only three weeks until the fall season! [yeah]

Kick off the 9th month of the year with some freshly brewed Joe – a pastry or two from The Mentor Village Bakery and perhaps a light breakfast ……. [tup]

News of the Day:

(1) Repeat Consider helping those who are suffering from the effects of Hurricane Katrina.

(2) The Selection Committee for The Order of the Stools will meet this month and release their results by mid-September. It is the objective of the Selection Committee to recognize the customers of ”Our” Place through either a Reserved or Permanent Stool award. As always, participation in the form of meaningful Posts on a regular basis is the cornerstone for an award.

(3) Thursday ‘round here is Fish ‘n Chips Nite along with whatever our Chief Chef, [C=:-)] Nick may have for us on the Nick’s Picks menu board. Dinner [dinner]is served from 5 PM ‘til closing …….

(4) Contest: What date will we reach 100 Pages [?] Prize: Open bar for winner on any Mon, Tues or Wed evening. [yeah] For those who picked a range of dates – sorry, if you want the prize, you have to pick one date! [swg]

(5) It’s downright embarrassing! If the shoe fits, this is for YOU: I’ve seen a few Posts that clearly reflect inattention to what’s been going on ‘round here. Cause [?] Not reading what has transpired since your last Post and not checking out the SUMMARIES. It’s easy to avoid being embarrassed!

SUMMARY

Name - Date/Time - (Page#) – Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 00:32:42 (91) Wednesday’s News & Summary

(2) wrwatkins *** Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 05:24:07 (91)

(3) passengerfan Al Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 06:54:10 (91)

(4) passengerfan Al Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 07:07:43 (91)

(5) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 07:24:42 (91) reply to wrwatkins & passengerfan

(6) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 09:02:36 (91)

(7) earlydiesels Dan Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 09:18:56 (91)

(8) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 10:30:02 (91) reply to Theodorebear & earlydiesels

(9) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 12:32:50 (91) Cast of Characters and Food Service at ”Our” Place

(10) West Coast S Dave Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 14:04:01 (91)

(11) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 14:33:18 (91)

(12) coalminer3 Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 15:23:37 (91)

(13) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 15:52:56 (92) reply to West Coast S – Theodorebear – coalminer3

(14) pwolfe Pete Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 17:59:06 (92)

(15) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 19:34:26 (92) reply to pwolfe

(16) West Coast S Dave Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 19:49:48 (92)

(17) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 20:03:03 (92) Pix from Delson

(18) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 20:12:54 (92) reply to West Coast S

(19) passengerfan Al Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 21:08:17 (92)

(20) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 21:23:13 (92) reply to passengerfan

(21) pwolfe Pete Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 00:16:38 (92)

(22) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 00:55:13 (92)

(23) siberianmo Tom Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 02:16:49 (92) reply to pwolfe & trolleyboy

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That’s it! [tup][;)]
Tom (Siberianmo) [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[siberianmo]

Good early Morning!

Insomnia and dial up are turning this early morning into frustration! Seems my wireless connection isn't ....... took 1/2 hour just to get to this point using dial-up. Argggggh. [tdn]

Pete Glad you liked the pix - I'm sure Chris will appreciate your comments. Can't offer much with regard to the steam loco's - but there are those who will! [swg]

Rob Okay - September 8th it is! Your pick wouldn't have anything to do with your Natal Day now would it [?] [swg]

When will we reach 100 Pages [?]

Rob says September 8th
Dave says September 5th
Pete says Sepember 12th
Dan says September 1st, 2nd or 3rd***
Ted says September 15th, 16th or 17th***

***Sorry, but to be eligible for the PRIZE, only one date may be selected! [swg]

What do YOU say [?] CONTEST CLOSES TODAY!

I'd like to be optimistic regarding the situation in New Orleans, but it is looking worse as time goes on ....... It would seem to me that people on the ground are needed now more than ever in order to gain the upper hand on all of it - flooding - looting - care for the survivors, etc. I've read nary a word of offers for help from anywhere other than Washington, DC. Don't doubt for a second that the so-called international community will come 'round - but the media these days likes to accent only the negative. Sad.

Glad you liked the pix ....... [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[trolleyboy]

Good evening Tom and the gang. I'll leave a donation for the breakfast delicasies tomorrow[;)] Tom I think I'm going to go for sept 8 for no apparent reason as the big 100 day.I think that the worst is still yet to be found out about NO still. Much larger death estimates than one would have thought possible.I would say that monetary donations would be everyone's best bet. I know that the Canadian red cross has said money's the best option at the moment as cloths and food have no really good way of getting into the city at the moment.Looks as though our fed govt is likley going to match the RCross monies same as they did with the Tsumani last dec. Nick Yes Bob did us proud, after he retired from Go he tended to consult in other places. TTC subway, he even wen t down and gave his thought to NO transit when they were rehabilitating their river front line ( will likley need rebuildin g again) Chris good to see you back in the old online fold. Amazing pictures from Delson as well! A railfans nirvanna to be sure,one could quite easily get lost in that massive collection. Well it's a late evenong so I'm calling it quits for now, will be back again tomorrow. Oh BTW Tom and Ted you have mail. Rob

[pwolfe]

HI Tom and all.
Just a quick pint before [zzz] please.
Thanks TOM for the kind words and the great photos by CHRIS it looks a wonderful museum I must have a visit some time [tup] Looking at the photo of 60010 I noticed the whistle.I think that the loco ran with a whistle that was given by a Canadian railroad it had a different chime than the other A4;s. the A4's were one of three types or so on British railroads to have chime whistles.There was a great difference in loco whistles in the U.K. This got me to wonder if it was the same over here or if there was a standard sounding whistle, no doubt one of the regulars will know[yeah] PETE.

[siberianmo]

Evenin' passengerfan Al

Ring the bell, Boris a round on Al Thanx! [tup]

So, what you've told me is that my comments to coalminer3 regarding the roads emplohying RDC's is that they indeed applied names to the routes. Nice to be correct every now 'n then! [swg]

Regarding the Beeliners, somewhere I read that more than one road used that name ........ I think coalminer3 had said - many pages back - that this was the case. Thanx for the amplifying info ....... [tup]

See ya later as Leon the Night Man is about to take the bar .......

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[passengerfan]

Good Evening Tom. Time for a double CR and a round for the house.
Just dug out some more RDC trivia I thought I would share.
The cars were known by most roads a RDC's or Budd cars but on the NYC thgey were Beeliners, Shoreliners on the NYNH&H and DSS&A, Dayliners on DAR, CPR, E&N, PG&E and BCR,Railiners on CNR, and DW&P,Honker on OP&E,Rockettes on CRI&P, Rail Motor Cars on AT&SF and Zephyrette on WP.
The following is a list of named trains operated with RDC's
Meadowlark (C&EI), San Diegan and El Pasoan (AT&SF)
Roger Williams (NYNH&H), Daylight Speedliner (B&O), Zephyrette (WP), Caribou Dayliner (PG&E & BCR), Lakeshore (CPR), Chessieliner (C&O), Redwood (NWP), Senator (SP) and Choctaw Rockettes on CRI&P.
I don't know about the ones sold overseas. Maybe their are others with name train status or called special names would love to hear.

[siberianmo]

Hey Dave

Didn't think you'd be back ..... brew is iced and ready to go. It's a two step process: (1) into YOU (2) out of YOU! [swg]

That is indeed a great find for the caboose! Are you at a stage where perhaps we can enjoy some photo's of your S-gauge layout [?] What kind of a theme are you into with it [?]

When will we reach 100 Pages [?]

Dave says September 5th
Pete says Sepember 12th
Dan says September 1st, 2nd or 3rd
Ted says September 15th, 16th or 17th

What do YOU say [?]

The Prize [?] Hmmmmmm - how about a date with one of the Gals of "Our" Place [?] Oh, sorry - you married guys are kinda stuck there, eh [?] Well, hmmmmmmm - okay - open bar for you between closing time and opening. [swg] Okay, okay - in all seriousity (huh [?]) how about open bar for you on any Mon, Tues or Wed - [yeah] that's it! [tup]

See ya later!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

Evenin' Guys,

Here are some pix from Chris ... took 'em at Delson ..... (CLICK to enlarge)











Again, these pix are from Chris while at the Delson RR Museum ....

Enjoy!

Tom[img][4:-)][oX)]

[West Coast S]

Once again Tom and the gang...I vote Sept. 5th. Are you planning to loan out Boris to the lucky person as a prize? That could be scary, you know how he is in unfamilar surroundings. Where are my manners? A round for the house.

Tom I negelected to inform you my rare caboose find.. As you know, i'm seeking the correct SP equiptment in S scale. Some unknown, mystical force caused the planets to allign in the proper orbit and I was able to aquire a C30-1 brass import, they don't produce these anymore. Man, with this kinda luck, I should be in Vegas! Now I just need to explain my latest spending activities to the wife.

Take care all, i'll be back, keep the stool warm and the beer cold.

Dave[tup]

[siberianmo]

Hi Pete

There are only a relative handful of nations 'round the world who have the decency to express support for the U.S. these days - and Great Britain leads the way. Goes back easily to World War One. There is a bond between certain nations on this Earth and it shows with England and Australia in particular. Nice to know that in times of need, one has friends.

Before I totally forget, I want you to know that your participation 'round here is very much appreciated. You've fit in so well that quite frankly, I'd say you're as regular as can be. [tup][tup]

I have some photo's that Chris sent to me by Email that I know you and a couple of other guys will be interested in. I'll try to get 'em up either tonight or certainly in the morning .......

Regarding our Amtrak trip - I'll have to check out that reference, see what the dates are, and coordinate further with you. Thanx for the tip .......

When will we reach 100 Pages [?]

Pete says Sepember 12th
Dan says September 1st, 2nd or 3rd
Ted says September 15th, 16th or 17th

What do YOU say [?]

Catch ya later! [swg]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all
A pint of the usual please.
I see our Queen has sent a message of support and sympathy and I hope Britain will step up to the plate with assistance. As you say Tom if anyone can cope the American people can.
NICK I dont know how you are able to write such great posts at that time of night. I know through many a late night phone calls to my now wife.The piece on MALLARD was excellant There has been what has been called the BEST RUN IN PRESERVATION over the same East Coast route last month not with an A4 (mallard class) but with a L.M.S. DUCHESS when she averaged over 70 M.P.H. over sections of 360 miles according to Steam Railway mag.By the way Nick I hope you will still speak to me after Wales V England saturday [:-,] (only joking) As with grades I think the old road signs that just said STEEP HILL had it right
Thanks CHRIS for the info on 60010. I see that some British ex-pats from Ottawa spent 280 hours on getting another British locomotive at the C.R.N. up to exhibition standard, a 0-6-0 tank #54 named WADDON which has been in Canada since 1963. They have been invited to do the same to 60010.
Tom the K.C STAR says that there is going tobe a locomotive simulater at the Rail Experience at Union Station which visitor will be able to use I hope Amtrak gives us enough time to have a go. [:-,]
Another pint please Tom and a round to all for the great posts of the last few days .I think we will reach the 100 on September 12. Bye for now PETE.

[siberianmo]

G'day Guys!

Thanx Cindy, I'll take it from here ........ appreciate your help! I see your tip jar is full of fivers ....... must've been an appreciative group 'round here. [}:)][:-,]

West Coast S[ Dave

[yeah] I'm aware of that NYC RDC speed trial resulting in the 142 mph record. However, perhaps the other guys have not ..... nice write up and as always, very much appreciated. Can't imagine an RDC making speeds upwards of 80 mph muchless 142! [wow] By the time this particular effort took place, the proverbial handwriting was on the walls - passenger rail was rapidly going downhill. A last gasp to grab the public's attention, before the demise ......

Very sorry to learn that we will not be seeing much of you 'round here until mid September. Hope you have a relaxing and enjoyable time away from your job. We'll ne here when you return.

Oh [yeah] September 10th at 10 PM (Eastern) is Rob's Biirthday Bash should you be near a 'puter ....... [swg]

Ted

Didn't hear about Germany - but I'm not surprised at the offer-specific nature, if in fact it was made at all. Kinda lilke that nut case in Venezuela making his offer of oil to just the poor people. How does that happen [?] Political statements, all ..... nothing more.

Been watching the TV this afternoon - very unusual for me - but the scenes fromN'rlns are simply riveting - not to mention, devastating. If there's anything good that cam come out of all of this, I hope it is for we Americans to pull together in order to provide quick and adequate relief to those in need. Rebuilding that entire area [?] What a monumental task, but if any people on Earth can do it - we can. [tup]

Won't touch the polticial crap - I've heard some of it today and man oh man does it ever turn me off. Some just can't get away from this stuff, as if their universe turns with the political fortunes. Good grief.

Thanx for stopping by for your 2nd Post of the day .... nice to see the Manager 'round here during daylight hours! [swg]

coalminer3

[yeah] It is quite amazing to think that we're approaching 100 pages. Who wudda thunk it back when all of this began [?]

Need a bit of clarification regarding the term Shoreliner. Wasn't that the name originally applied to NH's RDC's [?] I know that many roads applied various names to their RDC routes as a way of creating some public interest and connection with them. A nice PR move, I'd say. Anyway. NH remains one of my favorite roads ...... I feel very fortuante to have lived in Connecticut for a period of time back in the mid-60's - saw pretty much the tail end of what was a great era in NH's history.

Your mention of Penn Central (one of my least favorite roads - detest it as a matter of fact - because of the way it came about ....) and that Boston SE "distressway" situation does rekindle a flame. I'll have to give it further thought to get a date .....

Appreciate your taking the time to stop by and of course the round and roll of quarters too! [tup] Boris Ring the bell, drinks on coalminer3

Catch y'all later!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[coalminer3]

Good afternoon, all. Round for the house, and a roll of quarters for the jukebox. I'm glad I finally got a chance to stop by for a few minutes. Hard to believe we're getting near 100 pages.

Now for something truly classical. Vol. 29 issue 4 of the New Haven Technical Association's Shoreliner has a most excellent piece on the Readville (MA) Shops. including some lovely shots of steam locomotives in various states of repair or rebuilding. God, if we only had a time machine.

The erecting shop at Readville was approximately 1/4 mile under roof so you'll get an idea of the scope of activity there. Those of you that are "captains of industry" will appreciate the shots of all of the machine tool installations, including a lathe being used to work on a diesel crankshaft. Other shots include the sandblasting shed (talk about PPE!), and pictures of the slip track used to test locomotives.

Yes, Virginia, there was at least one engine that "got away" from the slip track. It was a 4-6-2 and wound up in the backyard of a nearby house. I had heard that story as a child, but it's always good to see "legends" backed up with facts.

BTW, does anybody recall the Penn Central diesels that escaped in Boston and wound up on the SE Expressway - talk abt. traffic jams.

Anyway, it's a good overview of what it took to keep steam running and it brought back more than a few memories.

For the oil electric fanciers, the new X2200 has a feature on the Canton Railroad. I remember this well from my sojourns in Baltimore. Anyway, there are pictures of Baldwin and ancient EMD locomotives, along with more modern items such as SW1500s and such. Most interesting stuff.

Well, that's about all for now. I'll try and stop by more regularly but work comes first...

work safe

[Anonymous]

Well, this is my laundry; mop and wax day (hazzards of single living). So, I'm peeking in between wash loads and floor drying times. Cindy, I'll just have coffee on this break because the view spirits could cause delays. I really must keep abreast current on my domestic time table.[:-^]

Ah yes, there you are Tom. I understand that Germany has offered some assistance to our storm beleagured people in the South. I don't recall any mention of the U.S., however. I'm sure more offers will roll in commensurate with the inevitable rise in the price of petroleum. Preferred customer status?[;)] Don't I wish! Say ***, perhaps during your next trip to (was it) Chad, you can "shake" them out of a few extra barrels of "sweet" crude. That Venezuela crud[e] will be the death of many a motor.[xx(]

There is so much more to be said on this catastrophy that I'll leave it to the professionals. I only know there is a terrible feeling of desperate helplessness right now. Looting food? Who are they saving it for? It will just go bad in any case. Clothes? Who will they sell "flood" clothes to later? For sure, the one thing none of us care to hear now (I'm sure) is a politicizing of this or that failure by "this or that" political party. But, you know what? It's already happening![tdn][tdn][tdn] For some, there truly is "nothing sacred." BTW Nick, did the Labour Party blame Winston Churchill for the "Doodlebugs?"

Boris there is no reason for you to ring that bell![:(!] Gadfey, its the bell on my clothes shredder dryer, sorry old man. On second thought, go ahead and clang that thing. I haven't hit a thing "on topic" yet. So long for now.

[West Coast S]

Morning Tom and the gang... Spot of the Juan Valdez, and what have we at the Mentor's bakery this morning? Ah.... Chocolate eclairs, Yes!

Speaking of RDCs...Did you know that the New York Central and Air Research teamed up in 1964 to set a rail-land speed record for a self propelled car? Yep, strange but true. A RDC was chosen as the test vehicle, extensive sheetmetal modifications in addtion to truck work were made to improve aerodynamics and stablity , structual modifications were required to install the Air Research Turbo to the roof along with adding operating controls, test monitoring equiptment and safety interlocks to the cab.

New York Central officials, meanwhile were scouring the system, seeking the perfect section of straight, level track. A location in Indiana was chosen and precisely marked for the five mile test. All efforts were devoted to ensuring that the existing track and roadbed could substain 120 mph+ operation.

Suffice to say the test were a smashing sucess. As designed to do, the stock RDC power plant provided the motive power until such time that the turbo automatically ignited. When this occured it was unknown what would actually happen, success or one former RDC scattered across the farm fields of Indiana.

The cutoff occured sucessfully during the four closely supervised trails, speeds were gradually increased as crews and engineers gained confidence. The highest recorded speed was obtained on the final test, a speed of 142 MPH was maintained for one mile, attempts to exceed this number ran afoul of the law of physics, the RDC had a tendency to want to lift off the rails.

At the conclusion of the trials, the Turbo, added sheetmetal, test equiptment were removed and RDC restored to service as orginally designed.

Obviously, the success of this experiment didn't usher in the era of jet propelled RDCs, but provide useful engineering data into operating at high speeds using existing infastructure and proving that the jet turbo could have a place in railroading.

With positive results now available, Air research eventually teamed up with United and the newly created Amtrak to produce the prototype Turboliner..

Ok Boris, do whatever it is you do.. note to the group, I will be R&R effective 18:30 this eveing until the 17th of Sept. If you don't see me around much, i'm on the road somewhere


Dave [tup]

[siberianmo]

The Cast of Characters from ”Our” Place

siberianmo Tom is the Proprietor and head bartender.

Theodorebear Ted is the Manager.

nickinwestwales Nick is Chief Chef.

Boris is - well, he’s Boris who works in the kitchen and anywhere else needed. He was hired by Nick, Chief Chef and is assistant cook. He’s not too hard to spot, as Boris is not of this world. Kinda difficult to maintain eye contact with him. He’s playful and unaware of his strength. We do not permit him to tend bar – however, he loves to ring the bell when a round is purchased.

Leon the Night Man is Tom’s relief behind the bar around 9 PM or so, Central Time. He closes up. He’s easily recognized by his rather large size, enormous hands, and shiny brand new Jump Boots. Leon also serves as Doorman and Bouncer for special events and may be seen in a tuxedo – with Jump Boots of course.

Inspector Clueless of the Local Constabulary and his earstwhile friend and companion Mr. Doyle, Private Investigator make up the security force ‘round here.

The Gals of “Our Place” are:

Ruth the redhead – Ann the blonde – Lucy the brunette and Jemima the raven haired beauty. These gals were found and hired by Tom and named by Nick. They work evenings, pretty much anywhere in the place, Thursday thru Saturday, and special events. Look, but don’t touch – at least not while on duty!

Then there’s Cindy with the auburn hair. She’s a faculty member from the Mentor Village all female University – right up the road. She’s not paid, but loves to volunteer her services either behind the bar – for me – or in the kitchen, with Nick. She’s also active in the local Victoria’s Secret lingerie shows …….

Then of course, there are all of YOU!
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The Hours and Food Service at "Our" Place

We open at 6 AM (all time zones! Don't ask how we do that! [swg]) - Monday thru Saturday - close when the last man standing has departed (or fallen!).

CLOSED on SUNDAY's and CHRISTMAS Day

The Food Service at ”Our” Place –

…Monday thru Saturday: Light breakfasts – bakery goods from The Mentor Village Bakery and sandwiches all day long made from the freshest lunchmeats in the county along with freshly baked bread for the grinders/hoagies/heros/subs……
....NO evening meals Monday thru Wednesday.
…Thursday: Fish ‘n Chips nite and Nick’s Picks or whatever our Chief Chef [C=:-)] conjures up!.
…Friday: Pizza nite – steak ‘n fries and…….
…Saturday: Steak ‘n fries and ……..

Tom, Proprietor of "Our" Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment![4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

Mornin' Gents!

Ted

That concoction you suggested for my arthritic hands sounds too tasty - a bit like Oatmeal, I'd say! [swg] My bride purchased one of those parafin baths for me - tried it - didn't really provide the relief advertised. Well, it's much more tolerable in warm weather than winter and I've lived with it so long that unless I do something to really aggravate the situation, it's become part of me ....... Thanx. [tup]

Interesting how we go from feast to famine 'round here, isn't it [?] Frustrating when those periods occur, especially when some of us are trying to beat that drum in order to maintain a decent level of conversation. Very pleased with the outpouring yesterday and it would be rather unrealistic to anticipate maintaining that degree of activity for sure. Appreciate everyone's input .......... [tup]

September 15th, 16th or 17th is the first estimate of when we'll reach page 100. Thanx Ted (you said around the 16th) - any others [?]

Regarding your thoughts on discussion topics, my take on it is we really need to stay as close to what the design of this Forum is all about. To do otherwise is to degenerate to the level that some other threads. There's quite a bit of latitutde with regard to just what constitutes Classic, so rather than open it up to carte blanche, I'll keep riding herd on the submissions just to maintain that degree of releavance. Appreciate your [2c] on the matter ........ [tup]

Looks like we're getting some mileage out of the Balderdash reference, both from you and Nick [swg] Now, there's a Classic term for ya! [;)]

I failed to make mention of our feathered friend, Awk. This polly came ashore with me from my last ship and has been in my private quarters most of the time. We take Awk up to the cabin at Can-Am Gorge on Sunday's for a bit of flying. Somehow, Awk got loose and wound up perched on Boris' shoulder. Now he thinks the bird is his. Birds of a feather ......Oh well - just as long as he doesn't try to eat it! [swg]

You know, those prints could be from the FBS - and I do recall when the preventative was banned. Oh do I recall ........

earlydiesels Dan

Good to get out to do the things you enjoy in temperatures much more tolerable. Let's hope the worst is behind us. September begins tomorrow - fall isn't that far away. [yeah]

Looks like just you and I have noticed that rather strange quiet from the so called international community regarding the disaster in the Gulf. It's not that we need any help - but wouldn't it be nice if some were offered [?] Perhaps in the inner circles of government they have - but the media sure isn't reporting it.

September 1st, 2nd or 3rd is what Dan projects for our 100th page! Let's keep 'er going - any more [?]

Gotta get going on my yard work ...... Cindy has the bar! I know that breaks everyone's heart .... [swg][:-,][}:)]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[Anonymous]

Hello and good morning to everyone. Tom, I'll take a cup of joe and some goodies from the Mentor Village bakery. I had a post a few minutes ago but the @#$% computer crashed so I'll try again.
Been doing some trainwatching because the weather's got cooler. Also been hanging around the hobby shop. Russell, picked up a 1977 ATSF Middle div tt for my trainee, who is a big ATSF fan and lives in Emporia.
Tom, I have also noticed the lack of help from the international community. Seems like if any country has a disaster the US is always first to help. No country has extended a offer yet.
I will try to check in more but I love being outside when it is not 100. I predict our 100th page will be within the first few days of Sept. It just gets better.