"OUR" PLACE - SEE NEW THREAD!

[BudKarr]

Hello again - it seems that just Mr. West Coast S and I are available this afternoon.

In browsing the other forums, it definitely appears that things are back to where they were before the outburst on Friday.

Regarding where the regulars are for this bar, perhaps Tom knows as he seems to keep a pretty good handle on things like that. I recall reading about several members who for an assortment of reasons, were expecting to be either missing or have reduced availability for a bit. Probably 4 or 5 pages back.

Oh yes, hello barkeep - Miss Cindy, I'll have one of those extra cold bottles of Carnegie Porter from Sweden. It's a bit on the dark side, with a chocolate character, but a treat every once in a while.

I must take my leave shortly, time for me to do what I do. Next time I return, perhaps I will have another report for you on some railroading details. Thank you for the kind comments made on my posting for those European classics.

I must make note of my appreciation for the Santa Fe and Union Pacific Fallen Flags (passenger operations, of course). I never really was much of a fan of that UP yellow, but always liked the AT&SF livery. Enjoyed the SP colors too. A nice thing about being in Chicago was that you got to see many more roads than say in New York City. One had the best of it all there with the terminus for east and west in the Windy City. Perhaps one of you can expound on that point much better than I.

On a different subject, I noticed there is a guy on the forums (I presume it is a guy) who has so many stars after his name that one should be impressed. This person has only been signed on since February of 2005. Now, what do you suppose he does his time? Sad, indeed.

Finally, I mentioned earlier that Tom should go a bit easy on his constituents . That is a two way street, some consideration should be given in his direction for the effort he puts forth.

BK

[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams please and if any of the sausages are left from Saturday.[?].

A really excellent collection of photos yesterday[tup][tup].Thanks indeed ROB BARNDAD RUSSELL NICK AND TOM(I DO HOPE I HAVE NOT LEFT ANYONE OUT).

Thanks for the link to the Illinois Railway Museum I will have to get up there some time.

There was a trolley system that ran from GRIMSBY to IMMINGHAM on the East Coast Of England which was owned by British Railways. I think it closed down in the late 50s or early 60s.They used cars which looked American in design. I will try and find out if any were saved.

I think the Trolleys were an important part of the rail-road heritage and I really apprciate the hard work that goes into restoring them to their former glory [^][tup].

Nice layout NICK[tup]. I am looking forward to the info on the Midland Baldwins.

I'll have another Bathams to wash down the sausages and hope to call in soon. PETE.

[West Coast S]

Morning Tom and the gang....

Arrived in Vegas in the wee hrs. Saturday, cripes, barely checked when I was instructed to report for duty, can't a man take a siesta first? Spent Saturday and Sunday in the field, 111 degrees in the dust and dirt, in a foul mood I might add, and returned to civilization this morning. I feel lower then a heel for bing AWOL during Octoberfest... Ok were were all the other regulars?

Tom would it be possible to dedicate, say every other Wendsday during October for a mini-Octoberfest, I volunteer to assist Nick and you know the girls and Boris are game for a good time and maybe, just maybe some of the regulars will put in a appearance.

Tom, Nick , and all the gang.......Great job with Octoberfest, leftovers I presume? Cuppa Joe and what have we from the Mentor Bakery? Let's see, a little this, a little that, no midrats or fast food from the BX please.

TrolleyBoy, I have a extensive PE libary, Reissue, I have the orginal series published by Ira Sweet, must be over forty years ago these were issued.. I hope Morningstar releases the equiptment diagram guides, those would be on the "to buy" list. There were few interurbans that could compare with the PE for mileage and revenue, Sacramento Northern, South Shore, come immediately to mind, as you stated Canada had a few. There is a fantastic PE set available in VHS, I've got two sets just in case.
Tom.. Any luck with locating the video we discussed on Friday?

Tom.. I was waiting for those KC photos, the wait was worth it, fantastic. I had the oppertunity to transfer to KC several years ago, but the wife has this thing about Tornados, wild cows,person who place their appliances on the front porch and such nonsense, watcha going to do?

Well just got hunted down, catch you on the upside upon my return.

Dave [8D]

[BudKarr]

Well, it appears I have missed quite a few days worth of activity. Fine photographs and for what it is worth, thank you to all who took the time and made the effort to share them. That is what makes a site like this worth the while. I think Tom outdid himself with the spread on his train voyage with Pete. Wonderful choices and the ones on his photo album are equally entertaining.

Oh yes - hello barkeep - whoever you are - Cindy is it? Well, I will have a tall glass filled with Beefeaters, a twist of lime and perhaps just a splash of Grenadine. Thank you.

I must make this commentary regarding the numbers of people who did and did not visit this fine establishment during the lock down or whatever the term. First - I agree that none of them will come back, they were in a panic state for the most part and had no where else to go. Pity, almost as if they have no lives whatsoever. Second - Where were the oracles of the forums. You know, the guys who seem to have all of the stars and have the longevity to go with it? Did not notice a one of them coming here. That cannot be just coincidence, don't you know? I have always felt - way before I decided to "join" these forums with a "name" - that snobbery ruled. My suspicions are confirmed. I do not believe for one minute that the oracles want a site like this one to succeed, in spite of the foolishness they seem to perpetuate elsewhere. Jealousy, perhaps?

Taken in the entirety, Our Place has more to offer than any other site I have visited any where on the Internet. Those Fallen Flags are a stroke of sheer brilliance and keen insight concerning how to maintain and rekindle interest. The reports from several of your members are equally well thought out and compelling in nature. This is a credit to the idea of having a place to exchange railroad information all the while having a good time doing so.

This is a good place and there are some fine people who make it work. Do not be too harsh on your consituents, Tom. I appreciate your frustration of seemingly being the one who must somehow always be available. You made the choice when you started this and the fellows are depending on you and the comfort you provide us all with the way to keep it all together. Good job, old man, good job!

I think I'll have another one of those gins, please.

Until the next time, then .....

BK

[siberianmo]

Mornin' Nick and the Boyz!

It appears that the Forums are back "up" and apparently have been for a couple of hours. I've been away from the "box," but decided to check .... addictive, isn't it [?] [swg]

Well, that round of concern is over. Perhaps we'll get back to our normalcy 'round here too. While we weren't really inundated with visitors, there was a flurry. I expect we'll not see 'em again, even the one's who I welcomed. Just as well, for it didn't appear to me as if any of 'em were really interested in the way we do things at "Our" Place. Oh well ......

It would have been nice to have the support from our regulars during this troublesome period. At times it felt as if I was "alone" in the boat with all of the oars just sitting there. Again, oh well .......

Nick Those pix of your layout are extremely pleasing to the eye. You've done well, my friend. Yes, I know it's a work in progress, but that's all part 'n parcel of model railroading. I'd love to see an "overall" shot of your design, whaddyathink [?]

Glad you liked that "reflection" shot - thus far you're the only one to make comment. Sometimes I really wonder whether this stuff is worth the time and effort - then along comes some positive feedback, and all's well again. Crazy, eh [?]

Lookin' forward to more pix from you and those RDC's should be interesting for sure.

I'm outta here again .... Cindy still has the bar. Be nice, Boyz! [:-,][}:)]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[nickinwestwales]

Mornin` gents,-Monday again,another day another dollar(those union rates are a killer) [4:-)]TOM,pint of tea and a bacon buttie to go please,fine work all on photo-spreads-Tom,LOVED that "reflection" shot-think I`ve a couple of postcard views or B.C.Rail R.D.C`s in green livery ,plus a couple of C.P.R units in "hockey mask"-will find and forward ROB & TED-thanks for kind words re layout-very much a work in progress but the journey is as much fun as the destination !! PETE-Midland Rly did indeed have a number of Baldwin `moguls` -unpopular with crews and fairly short lived,if memory serves-will look further,intersesting trans-atlantic link to explore[^]--O.K--The pix,to set [4:-)]TOM`s mind at ease,mixed running of the type shown is exception rather than rule-hosting some of father-in-laws trains for the weekend so dug out some of my old Brits for a creak round the circuit. Captions are 1 2 & 3-F/i/L`s Austrian 4-6-0 with (mostly) appropriate local train (spot the Brit tank car) 4 some assd Brits-from left English Electric type 3 (class 37) with mixed freight,Bulleid light pacific with mixed pass cars &Ivatt 2mt 2-6-2 with mineral empties 5 & 6-a small(canadian)homage to CM3`s exquisite B+M piece from a few pages back 7 enlarged image of Bilston Ironworks Shay abstacted from the article I sent to PETE-worth a look for the costumes etc 8 O.N.R FP7-a#1509-one of the units I am modelling-will reply to other posts later today,have a good one guys,I`m out the door regards,nick[C=:-)]

[siberianmo]

Here’s another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:

Santa Fe (AT&SF)

Headquarters: Chicago, Il

Mileage:

1950: 13,074 including subsidiaries
1995: (prior to merger with Burlington Northern): 9,126

Locomotives in 1963: Diesel: 1,855

Rolling stock in 1963: Freight cars: 84,439 Passenger cars: 1,235

Principal routes in 1950:

Chicago-Los Angeles via Kansas City, MO. and La Junta, CO
Emporia, KS-Galveston, TX via Oklahoma City, OK & Ft. Worth & Houston, TX
Emporia, KS-Dalies, NM
Barstow-Richmond, CA
Temple-Farwell, TX
Denver-LaJunta, CO
Albuquerque, NM-El Paso, TX
Dallas-Presidio, TX
Kansas City-Tulsa

Passenger trains of note:

Super Chief I(Chicago-Los Angeles)
El Capitan (Chicago-Los Angeles)
The Chief (Chicago-Los Angeles
Grand Canyon (Chicago-Los Angeles
The Scout (Chicago-Los Angeles)
San Francisco Chief (Chicago-San Francisco, CA)
Texas Chief (Chicago-Houston)
San Diegan (Los Angeles-San Diego
Tulsan (Kansas City-Tulsa)
Chicagoan (Dallas-Kansas City-Chicago)
Golden Gate (Los Angeles-San Francisco)

Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

Good Morning Ted!

Yes, a fresh start. Appreciate the kind words and enthusiasm. Regarding the pix that I posted, I hope you were able to call up the album at PhotoBucket, for there are many, many more - especially of the N-scale display. I didn't want to "hog" the show yesterday - one of the reasons I spaced the pix out amongst 3 submssions. The other reason was to keep the thread "up" on the page. Here's the URL: http://photobucket.com/albums/b222/siberianmo/Amtrak%20trip%20with%20Pete/

It's a treat to meet one of our regulars in person, and let's hope that those who have made the commitment for our First Annual "Our Place Classic Trains Rendezvous in Toronto in May 2006 are still on board. My airline reservations will be solidified before year's end, the good Lord willling and the creek "don't" rise! [swg]

One concern, it appears that Chris has dropped off the Earth (again). Hasn't responded to Emails at work or home. So, I guess we'll just place him in the inactive group, aka: Legion of the Lost. [%-)][%-)]

Any thoughts on the continuation of Saturday OKTOBERFEST may probably be better handled by Email.

I expect to be "in/out" for this week. Therefore Cindy, who is on sabattical from the all female university up the road and 'round the bend, will - as they say - have the bar! [:-,] [}:)] I'll amass my responses as time permits ......

Catch y'all later! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[Anonymous]

Good! A fresh start after a lack luster weekend. Tom, yesterday's Photo Posting Day snatched victory from the jaws of defeat.[tup] I'll just "snatch" a left-over Bismark Roll and a "Valdez" w/Cremora and 2 lumps. Nice to see Pete "live" and having a good time. A prelude to Toronto?[:D] We should be hearing from *** soon with lots'a good stuff from his "Afrika Korps" adventure. Let's hope he didn't need to evacuate N. Africa in the manner of Erwin Rommell (circa 1941).[:O] Rob, can't get enough of #416. I searched the Museum but couldn't find more pix of her. BTW, I looked for the answer on the blue and white N.Y.C. express box car's trucks. The few pix I have seem to be of the Bettendorf type, 'course, that could have changed later too.

Nick, you have a fine layout with some neat out buildings that "make sense."[^] Ocassionally, I stumble into HO British locos and rolling stock, etc. hereabouts. As you know, Florida is a quiltwork of "displaced persons" from everywhere. We have more Canadians here (Oct.-April) than Natives.[tup] Some of them dabble in vintage British models so maybe I can find something of interest. Drop me an e-mail "wish list" if you like. LHS here sometimes take used model R.R. paraphernalia "on consignment" and you never know what might be on sale.

Russell, in Tom's pix #9 of Kcity, I see the Western Auto Hdqs. building is still there. I'm having trouble getting my bearings: is that the Main St. overpass near the outside dispaly? The N guage "mock up" of Union Station has inspired me to return to refurbishing my version of it. In the beginning, there was a grotesque sculpture blocking the center portico. For good or ill, I made all 3 porticos the same (space being the final judge). Originally, the Grand Concourse had 8 windows. It now has only 5. Many alterations have been made through the years. Best I can hope for is a "facsimile."

Finally, I hope problems elsewhere won't put the Kabash on the fun we have at "Our" Place..."apples and oranges!"[:D] Captain Tom has done a spledid job of "P.R." and, in my opinion, all things will come to right.[^] Sooo, Boris give us a crisp, clear peal on old # 99 please, so I can bid everyone adieu. COO COO! Gadfrey Daniel, put that Bavarian clock away until next Saturday, will ya? Happy rails.

[siberianmo]

MONDAY’s NEWS & SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS

Good Morning Guys! Another new week and 5 more days to excel for the boss! [yeah] [swg]

The Mentor Village Bakery pastry case is full – coffee is freshly brewed and our light breakfasts are ready to be served! [tup]

News of the Day:

(1) Saturday’s celebration of OKTOBERFEST was successful, but subdued in part perhaps due to the situation going on with the Forums. Our regulars let us down and it would appear that the future of this event for the remaining Saturdays will have to be determined. My thanx to those of you who took the time to try and make this work. [tup]

(2) Thanx to all who contributed to Sunday Photo Posting Day! [tup] I hope that our regulars will take the time to acknowledge those who took the time to prepare the pix for our enjoyment. Also a suggestion: I request that Photo Postings be made during the times when they can be reasonably expected to have viewers.

(3) Today may bring resolution to the problems on the Forums, or perhaps even more “lock downs.” My thanx to those of you who maintained our “business as usual” stance by resisting the temptation to engage those who may have dropped in for unwelcome reasons. During this period of uncertainty, we will experience more visitors than ever and many will not return. Even the ones that I have welcomed, most probably will go elsewhere. Remember, the policy of ”Our” Place has been to let the Proprietor take care of the welcoming.

(4) Next Monday is Thanksgiving Day in Canada! We’ll come up with an appropriate menu item for our Canadian friends to enjoy. How about Back Bacon ‘n beer! [yeah] [swg]

INDEX

Index pages for Fallen Flags , Heralds of the Fallen Flags and Passenger Train Nostalgia

Generic URL: Just insert the index page in place of “106,” copy ‘n paste ‘n “go,”

http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=106&TOPIC_ID=35270

-or- insert the index page in the address portion of this page (at the top).

106 – SP
106 – MoPac
108 – WP
109 – Frisco
112 – CNR (passenger ops)
112 – CNR Super Continental Time Table
112 – Heralds of the Fallen Flags
113 - Passenger Train Nostalgia #1 “Start ups” in the 1800’s and early 1900’s
114 – ACL
115 – SCL
116 - D&RGW
117 – Passenger Train Nostalgia #2 California Zephyr’s Budd Co. Vista-Dome sleeper observation-lounge
118 – RI
119 – D&H
120 - PRR
121 – Passenger Train Nostalgia #3 Canadian Pacific Hotels & Lodges
122 – NYC
124 – A Tale of Classic Trains – BC Rail RDC trip
124 – UP (passenger ops)

SUMMARY

Name - Date/Time - (Page#) – Remarks

(1) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 02 Oct 2005, 00:32:10 (124) Pix

(2) siberianmo Tom Posted: 02 Oct 2005, 00:40:45 (124) [blue]Saturday’s News & Summary[/blue}

(3) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 02 Oct 2005, 01:13:54 (124) Pix

(4) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 02 Oct 2005, 07:25:53 (124)

(5) barndad Doug Posted: 02 Oct 2005, 07:52:03 (125) Pix

(6) siberianmo Tom Posted: 02 Oct 2005, 08:16:06 (125) Nick’s Pix

(7) siberianmo Tom Posted: 02 Oct 2005, 09:53:30 (125) Amtrak w/Pete Pix set #1

(8) rtraincollector William Posted: 02 Oct 2005, 10:49:51 (125) 2nd Post

(9) siberianmo Tom Posted: 02 Oct 2005, 11:18:00 (125) reply to rtraincollector

(10) siberianmo Tom Posted: 02 Oct 2005, 14:13:43 (125) Amtrak w/Pete Pix set #2

(11) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 02 Oct 2005, 15:00:33 (125)

(12) Trainnut484 Russell Posted: 02 Oct 2005, 15:04:37 (125) Pix

(13) siberianmo Tom Posted: 02 Oct 2005, 17:10:49 (125) Amtrak w/Pete Pix set #3

(14) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 02 Oct 2005, 22:44:42 (125)

(15) siberianmo Tom Posted: 02 Oct 2005, 01:28:08 (125) reply to trolleyboy

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That’s it! [tup][;)]

Tom (Siberianmo) [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[siberianmo]

Rob I wasn't going to ..... but I can't resist! We're CLOSED on SUNDAY's! [swg] The bar is C-L-O-S-E-D!!! Geesh, and you're a Charter Member at that .......... must be the lateness of the hour. [:D]

Thanx for participating in our Sunday Photo Posting Day!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[trolleyboy]

Good evening Tom and the boys. Tom can I get you and the gang a round of everyones favourite poison. Kudos to the wonderfull pictures by Nick and russell and Tom good stuff [tup] Nick I'm assuming that your shots are your layout, very nice indeed my friend[tup] Doug I love seeing the before and after type shots. Your doodlebug seems well on it's way to rising again [tup] I suppose shop grease is shop grease however weather it's in a steam diesel or electric shop. Speaking of which when your diesel shop tires of you is your next stop the trolley barn [?][:D] We have a member at our museum oddly his name is Doug as well. sort of like you we know exactly what he's been working on be it painting scrapping or bondoing by the colour (s) he has turned himself. [swg] I'll leave everyone with one more shot. This one's from our museum. Light interurban car 416 in her semi rebuilt state. The new roofs on and the window door and electrical work continues. More info over on the museum thread.

[Anonymous]

Greetings 'Our Placers'
Well this is the new meetin' place huh? Well I see there is alot of good RXR history here, I would like to know more about the UP mainline thru the Columbia Gorge, if anybody knows. Oh yes Tom, I will take a Tall "Southern OJ" Mrs TrainsRMe will have a "B52" Thanks Tom. How many of the old Clubbers have been in so far? Well I got to get to bed, got an early day at work tommorrow, Nice place Tom we will be back on Wednesday!!!!

[siberianmo]

For the final time today - Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!! Here’s the rest of these “selected shots” from my Amtrak Trip with Pete Album:


(13) Interior of Great Northern Observation #1292 at KCity’s Union Station (Pete)


(14) Interior of Great Northern Observation #1292 at KCity’s Union Station (Tom)



(15) Interior of Milwaukee Road Diner at KCity’s Union Station



(16) Galley in Milwaukee Road Diner at KCity’s Union Station



(17) Eastbound Amtrak train #306 at KCity’s Union Station



(18) Amfleet Café Car #48177 at KCity’s Union Station



(19) Ooooooops!



(20) Goodbye Tom! Pete at Jefferson City, MO


Didn’t get enough today [?] Go to this URL for the complete collection of the pix: http://photobucket.com/albums/b222/siberianmo/Amtrak%20trip%20with%20Pete/?start=0

That’s it!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[Trainnut484]

Good afternoon Tom and the rest of us regulars. I'll just quietly slip this through the mail slot while taking a brief timeout from a busy report and test preparing weekend. Tom, nice pix of your KC trip [tup]. Good info on the UP passenger equipment too.

Dan, the WATCO crew gave me a flier for SKO's Pumkin run train. It's Saturday Oct 22nd and Sunday Oct 23rd, and the train will depart from the Corona, KS depot, which is 2 miles west of the intersection of KS Hwy 7 and K 102 in Scammon, KS on the old MoPac lline, towards Cherokee where it'll cross over onto the ex-Frisco line to the pumpkin patch. At the Corona depot they have on display four cabooses, a old switcher, two section gang motor car sheds, and some signals. The train rides are their last for 2005.

Ok now for Sunday Photo Fun [:D] I talked about the train back on Monday and can be found on page 119 here on the thread. I'll repeat a little of it here:

The SKO has three ex Boston & Maine Budd RDC cars that were restored by an individual and renamed them after his grandaughters; "Kaleigh Ann" (RDC 9210), "Afton Leigh" (RDC 9202), and "Fallyne Marie" (RDC 9203). The RDC cars are non-powered, but look in tip top shape inside and out.

SKO/Watco push-pull passenger train Chanute, KS as part of the town's arts festival.


Shot of one of the RDC cars.


Inside shot of one of the cars.


Description on history of the RDC cars.


Enjoy [tup][8D]

Russell

[Anonymous]

Wonderful pictures! Just a quick memo of possible interest. The Travel Channel will be airing: "The American Orient Express" at 8:00 p.m. eastern time tonight. Sorry, I couldn't get to you sooner as the Travel Channel also ran: "National Parks" (U.S.) "Great Train Rides;" which included: The Denali Star (Alaska), Glacier National Park (from Chicago), Grand Canyon Railway (Steam 2-8-0 from Williams, AZ to Canyon), Coast Starline (L.A., CA to Seattle), American Orient Express also. Happy rails.

[Tracklayer]

Tracklayer checking in. Hope things get back to normal soon...

-Mark-

[siberianmo]

Once again - even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!! Here are some more from my Amtrak Trip with Pete Album:


(7) N-scale display at KCity’s Union Station



(8) Pullman at KCity’s Union Station (enlarge this photo to check “reflection” in door window!)



(9) BNSF private car RED RIVER at KCity’s Union Station (Tom)


(10) KCS F9 at KCity’s Union Station (Pete)



(11) Milwaukee Road Diner #170 at KCity’s Union Station



(12) Great Northern Observation car #1292 at KCity’s Union Station


Okay, more later …….


Enjoy![tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[fec153]

Good Afternoon Siber Tom. Took me a while to visit. Nice quiet place you have here. See inch has made it in also.
Classic train, huh. Well, I've been on the Magellan numerous times. That and riding The Silver Meteor and
other trains to and from N.Y. and Miami. Also from N.Y. to New London, Conn.
That classic enough?
Flip

[siberianmo]

rtraincollector

As an exception to our "rule" for Sunday's a response to your comments -

I understand the frustration with the "lock down" of cerain Forums - I won't go as far as to say, "I feel your pain." [swg] Anyway, I'm not sure just who your commentary is intended for. We're doing quite well on this thread with the nucleus of guys who have liked minded thougths and experiences regarding our topic - Classic Trains. Further, I created this thread, and of course can "pull it." I only wi***hat there was a way to delete some Posts from people obviously not interested in participating in what we're all about.

Perhaps you would be better off addressing your concerns to the good folks at Kalmbach, rather than us.

You certainly are welcome to participate with us, just as long as you understand how we operate. No agenda here - no hit 'n run Posting tolerated - and we "handle" our interlopers a bit differently than engaging them in confrontational conversation.

Back to my day of peace 'n quiet - after all, it IS Sunday, and some of us still like the idea of having that day to ourselves. [tup]

Enjoy our Sunday Photo Posting Day!

Tom, Proprietor of "Our" Place

[rtraincollector]

Okay with the understanding that your closed today for business you stated we can slip under the door for the next day and this may not be the right place to sumit this I hope it will goto those who need to read it. I'm very hurt that the model railroad forum was shut down I understand where your coming from also but there are a few I have notice of being a pain and there comments being removed for one this young person going by the name monto3 he would post and not even read reply's and repost wonder why no answer or maybe he didn't like the answer but he was given a very polite answer both times even after he repost and came back with the same question with Hello !!! although he was already answered by 2 at least. now for the kidding and joking that goes on in the model railroading coffee shop I'm very guilty but I don't care what club you go to or join for your 100's of dollars your not going to be pure club related the coffee shop was our place thanks to you all to show and tell what we have done give sugestions and joke and kid and tease each other now someone new may not catch on right away with some of it (perfect example was chief in clasic toy trains coffee shop teasing about northerns especially from ohio well I put a coment to one of his before i realized and some one put a coment to fact that we have some rude newcomers well i was but wasn't but after youer in there a while we see the joking as joking. If you want to make it just subscribers of any of the train magazines I don't think that'll solve it as anyone can subscribe maybe thou as one said must have a email address from an isp not like the free type but will run into a problem there as yahoo ofers both and you can't tell which is which. also although it would take some work do a check thing if the person you email do confirm the email address doesn't respond in 2 or 3 days delete them and do it on a random thing and maybe get some of the main people of the forums not saying these persons but if willing like ken lawson, csxt30,Big_boy_4005, ect ones like that who add so much to the forums I know theres a lot more but get some like that, that can come in and delete and give warnings to some that it won't be tolerated and you all have final say on who gets booted for wrongful acting repeated times. Just some ideas for you all think about and concider. Instead of buying my train magazine every other month I would be glad to subcribe to one to help keep the forum going. I normally buy one one month thou and another a couple of months later ect ect at newstands. (books a million, ect ect)

William Rifenbury
rt
rtraincollector

[siberianmo]

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!! Here are some from my Amtrak Trip with Pete Album:

(1) Kirkwood Amtrak Station, Kirkwood, Missouri



(2) Kirkwood Amtrak Station, Kirkwood, Missouri



(3) Amfleet Café Car’s Business Class section


(4) Evidence! Tom & Pete en route Kansas City, Missouri



(5) Passenger cars & F9 on display at KCity’s Union Station


(6) Westbound Amtrak becomes Eastbound – thru the Wye at KCity:


Okay, more later …

Enjoy![tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Day!! Here are some from Nick’s Pix Album:

























Check out his album at: http://photobucket.com/albums/b222/siberianmo/Nicks%20pix/


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[Anonymous]

Say Heyyyy ... and it's Doodlebug Day! Here's our 1927 UP M35!

However, it looks like this now

More images of our restoration can be seen on my railimages site.
Rob, I probably should have posted these pics on your very excellent museum thread, but I'll make it up to you.
Ted, as you pointed out, the dirt at the diesel shop is a lot less greasy, and cleanup is a lot easier ... so far. I'll probably use this Tuesday to work on our BN 5383, as the diesel gods have presented me with my own keys! Now I can work around the clock everyday if I choose.
Have a great day everyone!

[Anonymous]

I'll just pop this in the slot for tomorrow's posts. Sorry I had to leave early last night. I am on the "extra board" as a designated driver for those members at our Post (Am. Leg.) who, shall we say, pursued the "bubbly" relentlessly.[swg] Hey, if just one incident can be prevented, it is worth it.[tup] Barndad and Rob, some fine pix for Sunday's Photo Posting Day. No apology necessary for the Traction phots on my account Rob. That "Doodlebug" looks better with every new "shot" Doug Say, the work in the diesel shop should, at least, be cleaner than steam, no?

Tom another "keeper" with the U.P. Fallen Flag. Nice to see so many new faces at the Pub. Nick, even if I could've "sat in" with the Oom Pah Bands, its doubtful much "swing" would come of it, sorta like "the tail wagging the dog."

I had a very late and less than inspiring evening last night.[zzz] And, the old driver wheels need to be re-turned a m.m. or 2 some before they are back "in round." SOoo, looking forward to new posts tomorrow after a quiet Sunday of R. & R. and some more "show and tell." Happy rails all.

[trolleyboy]

Hello again Tom you're keeping bad hours[xx(] insomnia again[?] I swore That i wouldn't post any trolley pictures but my grama told me never to swear on sundays sooo. A couple shots from the vault,both these pctures are NS&T cars.Enjoy again. So now for some explinations. first picture is steel interurban car 623 built by ottawa car in 1923. he last built in canada for cdn road interurbans. The next two pictures are city cars 303 and 311two of twelves Cincinati car Co curved siders used in St catharines and Niagara fall On's city lines by the NS&T. The last shot is steel and wood interurban car #83 This was built bu Preston car and Coach for the Toronto Suberban RY interurban as their car #107. When T&S went bankrupt in 1931 it aans several sisters were bought by the NS&T. This car made the last run on the T&S in 1931 and made the last passenger run on the NS&T in 1957. Rob

[siberianmo]

SUNDAY’s NEWS & SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS

”Our Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s! However, you may drop your Posts thru the mail slots on either set of front doors! We open up at 6 AM Monday morning (for all time zones, don’t ask how we do that! [swg])

News of the Day:

(1) Today is SUNDAY PHOTO POSTING DAY! so let’s dig out those photo’s of rail journeys past and present; trains from yesterday and today, and get with the program! [swg] [tup]

(2) repeat Trouble in the wind: It appears that there may be some cause for concern – not panic – regarding the need to ensure that our thread doesn’t fall to the same level as those being taken off the line by Kalmbach (which of course is their right). Our business gets conducted as always – PLEASE LET’S NOT ENCOURAGE ANY DIALOGUE WITH THOSE WHO MAY BE HERE TO DISRUPT. The serious minded will show through with the content and context of their Posts. Remember, I started this bar ‘n grill for the purpose of discussing Classic Trains set in an adult environment where having some fun adds to the enjoyment. Let’s keep it that way. THANX! [tup]

INDEX

Index pages for Fallen Flags , Heralds of the Fallen Flags and Passenger Train Nostalgia

Generic URL: Just insert the index page in place of “106,” copy ‘n paste ‘n “go,”

http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=106&TOPIC_ID=35270

-or- insert the index page in the address portion of this page (at the top).

106 – SP
106 – MoPac
108 – WP
109 – Frisco
112 – CNR (passenger ops)
112 – CNR Super Continental Time Table
112 – Heralds of the Fallen Flags
113 - Passenger Train Nostalgia #1 “Start ups” in the 1800’s and early 1900’s
114 – ACL
115 – SCL
116 - D&RGW
117 – Passenger Train Nostalgia #2 California Zephyr’s Budd Co. Vista-Dome sleeper observation-lounge
118 – RI
119 – D&H
120 - PRR
121 – Passenger Train Nostalgia #3 Canadian Pacific Hotels & Lodges
122 – NYC
124 – A Tale of Classic Trains – BC Rail RDC trip
124 – UP (passenger ops)

SUMMARY

Name - Date/Time - (Page#) – Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 01 Oct 2005, 08:45:18 (123) Saturday’s News & Summary

(2) siberianmo Tom Posted: 01 Oct 2005, 08:51:46 (124) A Tale of Classic Trains – BC Rail RDC trip

(3) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 01 Oct 2005, 10:50:28 (124)

(4) siberianmo Tom Posted: 01 Oct 2005, 12:03:35 (124) Fallen Flag – UP (passenger ops)

(5) Railroading_Brit Matt Posted: 01 Oct 2005, 12:59:57 (124)

(6) siberianmo Tom Posted: 01 Oct 2005, 13:51:07 (124) reply to Railroading_Brit

(7) siberianmo Tom Posted: 01 Oct 2005, 17:04:49 (124) Need to know about “Our” Place

(8) JimRCGMO Jim Posted: 01 Oct 2005, 21:03:33 (124)

(9) barndad Doug Posted: 01 Oct 2005, 21:18:08 (124)

(10) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 01 Oct 2005, 21:50:28 (124)

(11) siberianmo Tom Posted: 01 Oct 2005, 22:42:33 (124) reply to JimRCGMO – barndad – nickinwestwales

(12) pwolfe Pete Posted: 01 Oct 2005, 23:09:42 (124)

(13) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 01 Oct 2005, 23:49:42 (124)

(14) siberianmo Tom Posted: 01 Oct 2005, 23:52:09 (124) reply to pwolfe

(15) siberianmo Tom Posted: 01 Oct 2005, 23:59:49 (124) reply to trolleyboy

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That’s it! [tup][;)]

Tom (Siberianmo) [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[trolleyboy]

Tom I never would. Can I get you a green bedtime tea ( with some southern comfort )[:D] I'll see what i can dig up on the candian classics. I have quite a bit of info but I have to do a search of my book collection. TH&B CNR and CPR all have sig groups. Google search for them and you'll likley get a wealth of info herald s etc etc. I have a few shots lined up for Sunday posting. A bit different for me[swg][swg].Since I lead the game off last week I shall do so again ( good I work odd hours yes ) First up is a classic in all respects. An NW2 built by La Grange ( a rariety GM Canada really jumped in at the sw1200 model. This locomotive is owned by Ontario Southland a local shortline. OSR uses this classic paint scheme on all their locomotives. I give you OSR #51 Formerlt Toronto Hamilton and Buffalo #51in a classy move the locomotive not only retained it's number but its paint scheme and heralds as well. The rail shops it's in front of are the Former Michigan Central shops in St Thomas Ontario, which now house the Elgin County Rail Museum, home of CNR Hudson 5700 (5703 ) and many other sundries[tup] The next shot in the old Michigan central freight shed accross from the museum. This is going to be rebuilt into Condo lofts but the exterior ( herritage building is to stay the same ) [tup][tup][swg] The last tow shots are more of OSR's locomotive fleet,nice how they have kept the classic TH&B system paint job[tup][:D] The first shot is an MLW RS18u as rebuilt with the chopnose by CP. Is a ormer 1800 series CPR locomotive. The second shot are a pair of RS23 roadswitchers also built by MLW for CP during the late 50's. Enjoy everyone. Rob

[siberianmo]

Oh boy, looks like I'll never get outta here .... Hi Rob! You night owls are sure tough on my aging hide ... [swg] Workin' late this Saturday night [?] Geesh, the things we do for money! [swg]

I've had a bit of difficulty lining up sufficient info to create those Fallen Flags for Canadian Railroads. So, if you've got some info to pass along, please do so and I'll put together a Post or three. Not sure that the heralds will be available, but I'll check once I receive whatever info you send to me.

This has been a strange Saturday - and perhaps due to the situation with the Forums, we've had rather limited Postings by our regulars. Don't know. Of course, as I've repeatedly said before and do so again, we all have lives and other things to occupy our time and attention (or should have!) aside from sitting at the keyboard and screen while engaging in cyber chatter! Unfortunately, one does somehow begin to think of all this as "real."

Enjoy and see ya on Monday! Don't forget Sunday Photo Posting Day! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

Evenin' Pete Didn't want to totally check out without acknowledging your Post .... happy that you could make it in before we closed up the OKTOBERFEST celebration.

Your walk along the Katy Trail sounds like it was an enjoyable experience. Nice way to spend the day, eh [?] [tup] I really have mixed emotions regarding the hiking and biking efforts going on with railroad right-of-way. We all know that once lost, those parcels of land will never be returned for rail use. There's an effort underway by a "well healed" group in my part of Missouri to try and take the stretch of rail from near downtown St. Louis west to St. Albans, MO and turn it into "trail" use. Right now, there is an operating freight hauler on that former Rock Island right-of-way. Sure would be a shame to lose it as well.

By my last count, I don't believe you owe me any brew! However, I'll take it! [swg]

See ya on Monday and of course, enjoy Sunday Photo Posting Day! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]